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What causes the minds of those such as Newton or Godel to be so convinced of the existence of God?

>> No.15034121

>>15034087
Experiencing it.

>> No.15034147

>>15034121
Can you please expand upon this idea? Are intelligent people just able to experience God? Does God hate the retarded?

>> No.15034162
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>>15034087
The character of knowledge. If one does not possess a perception of the omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient. Than how does one characterise the nature of information? Many have fashioned their own compasses, yet it is only by the most accurate are the greatest voyages completed.

Basically, without God, one becomes content in poor quality judgements of information- it feels good, it must be true, it makes money, it must be true, the king says its true, it must be true. But it is one who goes ex sole veluti spectantibus that can discern greater fact from lesser fiction

>> No.15034171

>>15034147
The retarded are meant to experience God through the intelligent. That is how the intelligent best utilize their talents.

>> No.15034210

>>15034147
mutational load (as proxy'd by left handedness for example) correlates with atheism :O)

>> No.15034214

>>15034087
Newton was an Alchemist. Gödel starved himself to death thinking people were poisoning him.

I'd pick better people to quote....

>> No.15034224

>>15034214
go back

>> No.15034236

>>15034087
They are people born of their own time with their own societal understandings and expectations; to the average person in Newton's time, not believing in God was as stupid as not believing in gravity.
This modern age is literally the only time in history where it's okay to not be religious.

>> No.15034262

>>15034214
Bot

>> No.15034269

>>15034262
How

>> No.15034305

>>15034162
your png has the same quote attributed to both einstein and newton retard

>> No.15034318
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>>15034305
well formed ideas are independent of the mind which vouchsafed it

>> No.15034344

They were ignorant of the workings of nature, so they attributed it to god. Not particularly uncommon behaviour.

>> No.15034349

>>15034087
>What causes the minds of those such as Newton or Godel to be so convinced of the existence of God?
The desire to not be ostricized or killed for heresy.

>> No.15034557

>>15034147
Anyone with enough psychedelics can have such an experience nowadays

>> No.15034629

>>15034147
Once you start unravelling how ridiculously complex our universe is it becpmes pretty apparent that yhere is some sort of fuckery going on, not necessarily a bearded man in the sky, but some fundamental underlying mechanism that makes everything tick

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>>15034214
>thinking people were poisoning him
>implying

>> No.15034638

Filtering spiritual experiences through their culture's own mythology.

>> No.15034643

>>15034629
Agreed. That strange feeling of knowing without having the words. As if everything is infinite all the way up and down. Love that. It’s what made me fall in love with exploration and Science.

>> No.15034648

>>15034344
>They were ignorant of the workings of nature, so they attributed it to god. Not particularly uncommon behaviour.
we did not even knmow what gravity or light is, neither where we com from, where we go, having dumb retarded easy to refute false pretences like "Evolution", Big bang, germs global warming math tools neither can decsribe a simple circle nor the 3 sun problem etc but knowing one thing for sure. There is no god. That's true, for the soulless believers in the idiotic church of science.,

>> No.15034738

>>15034318
Then why try to attribute some popsci talking heads to the quote in the first place if only the idea is important?

>> No.15034747

>>15034087
>genius must be right about everything

>> No.15034881

>>15034648
And this, kids, is why theism is retarded

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>>15034881
>Atheist
Cringe.

>> No.15034975

>>15034965
Reality is not a two party system, those are not the only two options, there are deists, letsists, existentialists, agnostics among many other possible positions.

>> No.15034978

>>15034087
>What causes the minds of those such as Newton or Godel to be so convinced of the existence of God?
what no pussy does to a mf

>> No.15034997

>>15034557
What meeting God on psychedelics is like: https://www.bitchute.com/video/g8c5DYOqpC2Q

>> No.15035010

>>15034643
Well said.

>> No.15035233

>>15034087
Logic likely. In the case of Gödel, I do know that he was well versed in various cosmological arguments for god such as leibnizian contingency arguments. He had his own ontological model for god's existence as well. Some of the deductive ones are cased closed unless you obfuscate away from the truth of the premise in some coping way, which many people do of course.

>> No.15035267

>>15034147
No.

>> No.15035273

>>15034965
So it's cringe to be rational now? 4chan has really fallen off

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>>15034087