/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15011988
He was a fool of a Took.

>>15011991
>Hundred years later we can transfer electricity across 5cm's with terrible efficiency
>Therefore Tesla was right when he said he invented a wireless transfer of electricity across the whole globe
k

I carried Yuna.

>>15012059
Wow, the strawmanning is STRONG in you.

Do the website a favor and KYS. This isnt your home.

>>15011988
He was crank. Edison is better anyway.

>>15012118
Products>Progress
>If you cant eat it, sell it or fuck it...who cares?

>>15011988
It's a thing, we use it for wireless telecommunications. Shit for powering stuff though.

>>15012064
I agree with you. OP is a fag.

>>15011988
He went downhill after his schizophrenia kicked off.
He was good talking, using his past inventions and wasting others' money.
That's why this patent schizo or patent troll ended in poverty.

>>15012232
He was talking about you.

>>15012266
It isn't an insult, it's the truth, all of it.

>>15011988
>was he onto something or is it just bullshit?

I don't see any wires connected to the magnets generating your electricity. No they just float there above the archform. Do you think it's hot steam they're sending down the solid copper line? Do you think "electricity: the hertzian waveform" is even "wired" during it's conception?

Wireless electricity? "Yes".

>>15011988
I mean, yeah, you don't need wires for electricity. It just works better with wires. Electricity isn't that mysterious. I don't know why Teslafags think it's some sort of secret occult magic.

>>15012268
You correlated wealth to intelligence or nobility.

A normie-view of reality, youre retarded and never will convince me otherwise. Begone, midwit.

>>15012232
Pretty sure he died in poverty because he truly didn't care about money. He simply wanted to make the world a better place.
People are obsessed over money and dollars, but it is simply a form of "wealth" and there are may forms that wealth may take. Tesla wanted to increase the "wealth" of the world as a whole by enriching it with technology such as free energy.

>>15012284
>You correlated wealth to intelligence or nobility.
No, straw-man.
And I'm not taking the obvious ad hom bait.

I going to write it again: Tesla was rich, with many patents on important techs but after his loose some screws he throw all it out the windows and ended like a poor lonely schizo feeding pigeons.
He completely scammed Westinghouse without any real punishment because they're friends.

>>15012296
>He simply wanted to make the world a better place.
In his last 20 years active he keep babbling about mass destruction weapons. After that he isolated himself to feed pidgeons.

>>15012311
>He was good talking, using his past inventions and wasting others' money.
That's why this patent schizo or patent troll ended in poverty.

EAT A CROW.

>>15012314
You will never know what genius is like.

You think people like Elon Musk, Bill Gate, Steve Jobs, are genius.

Uber-bluepilled normie view of reality.

>>15012326
>>15012322
Daily reminder that all Tesla tech after 1890 was useless and not longer in use.

>>15012314
>mass destruction weapons
I still think he accidentally created a WMD. Being a moral man he wanted to provide free electricity, but when he discovered it's potential for war he became despondent. His dreams to make the world a better place would only have made it a hellish nightmarescape.

>>15011988
It works on small scales and short distances, but it's not super viable for long-range transfer unless you're using something extremely coherent like a laser. In his experiments at Colorado Springs, Tesla was never able to verify wireless transmission over distances greater than about a dozen meters.

Everything purporting to be greater distances was based on purely anecdotal and unsubstantiated claims, generally with no small amount of confirmation bias.

>>15012336
You wouldnt know its applications because youre a product-inventor, not a physicist.

Go...sell your goods to the public like a good salesman. My Physics work isnt for sale and will die with me like His.

>>15012339
Schizo dreams aren't real. And Tunguska has nothing to do with the Tesla babbling.

>>15012351
>Nikola Tesla was a Serbian-American inventor, electrical engineer, mechanical engineer,

>>15012342
>Colorado Springs
Neat, Im going there in a couple months to smoke weed and cat-sit.

>>15012355
Astonomy is Astrophysics...they just didnt know it 2,000 years ago.

Also, you act like a bitch but you call yourself a man, so....which is it, ma'am?

>>15012360
>Astronomy (from Ancient Greek ἀστρονομία (astronomía) 'science that studies the laws of the stars') is a natural science that studies celestial objects and phenomena. It uses mathematics, physics, and chemistry in order to explain their origin and evolution.
>Astrophysics is a science that employs the methods and principles of physics and chemistry in the study of astronomical objects and phenomena.
Astrophysics "is included" within Astronomy. Astronomy precedes astrophysics but it evolved greatly and have little to do with ancient astronomy.

>>15012059
it's a different principle. he was pumping energy into schumann resonance. modern wireless chargers are just transformers.

>>15012370
The study of gravity has little to do with Astrophysics?

You, sir, are what is known as "mid-wit".

>>15012370
Oh...lol....and copy-and-paste more wikipedia pages. It shows a clear understanding of the subject matter.

>>15012382
>The study of gravity has little to do with Astrophysics?
>Search "gravity" on >>15012370: Not found.

Hey schizo, you better stop talking to your head's voices.

>>15012384
>>Search "gravity" on >>15012370 #: Not found.
THATS MY POINT, RETARD.

YOU CONFUSED "le olde dum science" WITH "MUH TRU MODERN SCIENCE".


RETARD. KYS.

>>15012383
It's the simplest way to cut the schizo babbling of retard. Otherwise they will start they retard word play and their disaccreditation "that's something that you made up".

>>15012386
It's time to take the meds retard.

>>15012388
>>15012389
Astronomy is the study of gravity.

Retard cant understand that orbitals of celstial bodies IS the study of gravity.

You guys are fucking stupid............get the fuck off my board psueds.

>>15012394
>Astronomy is the study of gravity.
lmfao

So the oceans are gravity? the Jupiter magnetosphere is gravity? The Titans seas of methane are gravity? lmfao

Take your meds retard.

>>15012124
counterpoint: progress makes us closer to sexbots

>>15012389
but if i take the meds my anime loli therapist disappears

>>15012398
https://youtu.be/QImCld9YubE
t.PBS-Spacetime Student

Youre clouded with definitions and specificity thats deludes you into thinks you hold knowledge.

>>15012400
>progress makes us closer to sexbots
To the evolved post-human homonovus that is exactly what humans are.

>>15011988
Four words:

Inverse Square Law....

......Bitch.

/thread

>>15012398
>So the oceans are gravity? the Jupiter
Define the gravity differene between earths ocean of water and a plant made up of methane. Mass is mass, sure you can add more variables, but what about the variable YOU havnt considered? Youre speaking from a place of "I already know more." while proving youre not considering jack shit.

Protip, there isnt one.

>Im waaaaay beyond you, son. Think more, post less.

>>15012412
>Kurzgesagt
kek

>>15012415
Yeah retard, you can explain chemistry and the 3 other fundamental forces with gravity. All that because your a retard that cannot psych the possibility of take back his own bullshit.

>>15012423
>Hey, I use the weak and strong force to measure black holes, galactic spiraling and the expansion of the universe.

Yep, smart cookie, you are..........

>DUUUUH....WHY DOES QUANTUM MECHANICS IGNORE GRAVITY! THATS NOT REAL QUANTUM MECHANICS!!!!!

REEEEEEE EVERYONE IS WRONG EXCEPT ME!

>>15012353
A flash was witnessed rising northward towards Siberia from America by polar explorers.

>>15012590
>The popular story that Tesla tested his death ray one night in 1908 goes something like this. In 1908, Arctic explorer Robert Peary was making the second attempt to reach the North Pole, and Tesla requested him to look out for unusual activity. On the evening of 30 June, accompanied by his associate George Scherff atop the Wardenclyffe tower, Tesla aimed his death ray towards the Arctic, to a spot west of the Peary expedition. Tesla then scanned the newspapers and sent telegrams to Peary to confirm the effects of his death ray, but heard of nothing unusual in the Arctic.

>>15012590
But if you search more about >>15012601, even that is a meme because
>On July 6, 1908, the Roosevelt departed New York City with Peary's eighth Arctic expedition of 22 men.
>The Tunguska event occurred near the Podkamennaya Tunguska River in Yeniseysk Governorate, Russia, on the morning of June 30, 1908.

He was in the US.

>>15012414
explain why you don't need to move your food right in front of the wave guide aperture in your microwave to heat up you food.

>>15012282
because you are stupid. try reading a book some time when you don't understand something troglodyte

>>15012322
he was literally the exact opposite of a parent troll you mouth breathing jew

>Low case typing
>Simple sentance structure
>Bodhi is hindi word, viruses don't exist once said he's indian
>Very stupid posts
Is bodhi viruses don't exist?

>>15013046
i shit on your mom bloody bitch bastard

If Tesla was a schizo crank, why is the unit for magnetic field named after him? What did he actually contribute

>>15011988
>inductor in loop
>endless work, dupe electrons

>>15013268
Schizo cranks can still make valuable contributions... you just have to be careful separating the schizo from the science. Did Tesla make major advancements in engineering and applications of electromagnetism? Yes. Did Tesla make free energy death ray force field hovercrafts? No.

>>15011988
https://youtu.be/JuxQLEDccsU
Hydrogen bonds

There was a company in Texas that replicated his experiments apparently with some success, but a year or two ago they lost all their funding because the VC pulled out due to unprofitability. There was no way to meter the power draw.

In essence: how can you make money off of power that's free?

>>15012375
I just learnt something new today, thanks anon.

>>15011988
Correct me if i'm wrong, but don't lasers lose less power over distance than spherical light sources? What would it take to make an RF laser?

Patent troll.
Lol.

>>15011988
He tried.
ALL YOU FAGS READ THIS INSTEAD OF ARGUING.
Here we go:
You guys need to remember that back when tesla decided to work on "wireless power", radio was barely being invented.
If I'm not mistaken continuous (sine) wave radio was yet to be invented, and the people messing wiith it were still using giant wideband pulses.
This is important because without radio, people hadn't studied how different frequencies propagate in the atmosphere and are attenuated.
So tesla was "onto something" in the sense that yes, you can do wireless power.
He was wrong about the extent to which it's viable, because he had no prior data to refer to regarding electromagnetic waves propagate in the atmosphere, and the "data" he did was some bullshit theory about a conductive layer in the atmosphere. He also claimed to use the earth as a return path, which I suppose he meant would complement his upper atmosphere based transmission.
The key thing I want you fags to remember is that tesla came up with the wardenclyffe plan around the time marconi (and others) had the first basic radio systems barely working.
I don't think he was attempting to bullshit anyone, after all the tower was his ruin, but he was simply wrong about how power transmission using waves works, ESPECIALLY the effect of the atmosphere.
He never recovered from wardenclyffe, went full schizo or full conman, and died in silly fashion.
Give him credit for the things that he actually did (3 phase AC power etc.) which is far more than enough for a meager lifetime, instead of bitching and schizoing about the things he couldn't do especially after he lost his fucking mind

>>15013531
>and the "data" he did was some bullshit theory about a conductive layer in the atmosphere.
He was basically right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances

>>15013531
He already was a crank when started the Wardenclyffe Tower. By 1895 he began the downward spiral, almost all patents after 1890s were useless.

Although "he did nothing wrong", most of the bullshit was born in the 30s and after the firsts biographies based on schizo-distorted memories were written. The compounding of schizos in early internet was the last nail in the coffin. The BS about Tesla was milder 15 years ago.

put it this way, if someone were to replicate his achievement of sending electrical signals through the earth rather than through the atmosphere as Hertz did; then that person would be taken off the street. You would not be allowed to just walk around with that kind of power.. they'd say you stole classified defense secrets, even if you reached these conclusions as he did, through diligent study.

>>15013543
go bounce waves off of that then lmao

>>15013570
>Although "he did nothing wrong"
Actually I suspect he did con people on purpose after he lost his mind.
If I'm not mistaken he would go and talk to journalists every so often and feed them bullshit, death rays etc..
This went on until he died.
I'm just not going to really judge him for it because he obviously lost his fucking mind, if not before wardenclyffe like you said definitely after it failed.
I think the wardenclyff failure that was the point where he went from
"not attempting to bullshit anyone but stil schizo" to "fuck it feed them my schizo fantasies"

>>15012124
Das rite my nigguh

>>15013612
>go bounce waves off of that then lmao
Maybe I will.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program

>>15013042
you need to have sex

>>15013612
HAHAHAHA

seriously though, assuming all of the uranium on the known planet earth is simulated (fissionable) material... and u used it all at once.. (#!)

what wud happen? and how long would it take for the planet to recover?

>>15013649
excuse me? you must have replied to the wrong person.
Actually you must be a complete retard don't worry about it.

>>15013379
That never was the idea retard holy fuck, this is obviously a solution for once we find perfect source of energy to power whole globe for free, funded by taxpayers

>>15013531
This, all these faggots trying to discredit tesla because at his old age he became sick is hilarious, more than half people on earth get sick at old age before dying.
I bet it's some leftover of edison shills that spread this propaganda

>>15013669
>this is obviously a solution for once we find perfect source of energy to power whole globe for free, funded by taxpayers

>create a ring of solar panels directly on the equator.
>encircle the entire earth, so no mater what time of day, some of these panels are always in the sun
>transmit energy continuously around the globe, 24/7
>no need for batteries, EVER again for anything
>electric cars don't need batteries
>no more car pollution

>>15013364
So, what did he contribute?

>>15013721
>centralize global power grid
>sandnigger in africa lobs a grenade into a distribution node
>entire european power grid blows out and shuts down
The solution is a combination of more redundant baseload sources (ie. more nuclear) combined with a massive expansion of decentralized solar power.

The latter will benefit greatly from ongoing advances in organophotovoltaics.

>>15014410
>>ring of solar panels directly on the equator.
>>centralize global power grid

huh?

>>15012375
>>15013380
tesla never got this to work and literally only ever transferred energy via high frequency switching. its NOT like a transformer though it does use coil to transmit and capture inductive pulses

>>15013531

>>15011988
this thread really did it for me. You are all retards , retards that dont know physics nor have any conception of history of science arguing in idiotic semantics or praising crooks like tesla. Dont know why i came here , the board is not even funny

>>15011988
We should all replicate
https://patents.google.com/patent/US685955A/en

and see if we can send messages to each other

>>15014071
he was contributing an actualy efficient working ac motor and accompanying generator westinghouse could not figure out for the life of himself, and enabled the creation of the niagara falls hydroelectric powerplant with this development. westinghouse to this time only had light bulbs and some old german made one phase ac generator westinghouse had to refurbish to working condition to experiment with. the industry demanded a ac motor more powerful and cheaper than a dc motor to power industrial machinery, something only expensive dc was capable to this time since the one phase principle used for ac motors to this time was not safe to use since it required very high voltage and tended to burn out its windings, and had way less torque than a dc motor when you provide it with the same voltage. tesla invented the 2 and more modern 3 phase "polyphase" ac motors and generators we use until today. he was basically the creator of the electrical industrial revolution

>>15014071
radio that made eric dollard proud
logic gates

>>15015262
Literally saved the modern world...

>>15015219
I hope you die in your sleep, horribly, from the vaxx with shingles

>>15013364
>death ray
Death beam* He made a BEAM.

I made a RAY.

Learn into Physics, retard.

>>15012375
>pumping energy into schumann resonance.
sounds like a waste, why not just tap into the resonances directly? there's gotta be a ton of energy up there, but you'd need like a 50km tower for it

>>15015262
Tesla died in '43, so any claims that he was getting patent claims or business monopolies in the 40s or 50s are horseshit.

>>15012311
nta but you're obviously ESL and i'm curious, what flag do you fly anon?

>>15011988
He legit invented radio. I have a transistor radio powered by nothing but wireless electricity transmitted many miles away.

The fucking DOD is using secret space plains to launch prototype power beaming satellites in orbit.

The worst tragedy to befall mankind was that this dude had to put up with Edison's assholery

>>15012217
That is just transfer of data. What Tesla wanted was literally a power grid in the sky

>>15012282
>I mean, yeah, you don't need wires for electricity. It just works better with wires.
Not if you're using the Earth as a dielectric

>>15015748
>The worst tragedy to befall mankind was that Edison had to put up with Tesla's autism
Hey, I noticed some typos in your post. Don't worry, I fixed them for you.

>>15012889
Because it's a short distance away, and close enough to the point of emission that the inverse square law isn't enough to dilute the powerful emissions in a microwave.

>>15015976
> short distance away, and close enough to the point of emission
It's because it's a closed cavity, there's no radiation to the open space and the energy losses are equal to the energy absorbed by the "load" (food), the walls or the magnetron itself. Without a food the amplitude would increase until the magnetron or the walls fails, in general the former fails first.

>>15012266
Normies put the most basic and inane equations on the board behind the scientist every fucking time, and they think it makes him look like some profound genius.

Tesla discovered that longitudinal waves can resonate with transverse waves. Since longitudinal waves have no electromagnetic fields, any energy added to an existing transverse wave by resonance with a longitudinal wave amounts to “free energy.” And since longitudinal waves do not interact with physical objects or EM fields, they can be beamed straight through the earth without any resistance. No energy is carried with the wave; instead, energy is generated directly at the distant interference site where that wave resonates with a transverse wave of the same frequency.

>>15016054
interesting, could this resonant effect be a hypothesis to pic related in your estimation?

>>15016054
also for posterity, when you mention longitudinal waves does the equation in this paper seem on target?

Seems like an experiment we can all do with a ballon, some tin foil, some AA batteries and copper wire

>>15016054

>>15016069
I’m having trouble finding studies on the speed of propagation for electrical potentials but it’s a good guess. Entanglement experiments have proven that information travels thousands of times faster than light, but that’s for an already-entangled pair. Perhaps the potentials move longitudinally through spacetime at 1.572c, while a transverse wave moves across the surface of spacetime at 1c. I’ll have to dig into this.

What I can provide though is the original theory that’s the basis for my hypothesis, the “Bohm-Aharanov Effect.”
https://journals.aps.org/pr/pdf/10.1103/PhysRev.115.485

>>15016083
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001900680014-4.pdf
This is a mostly non-technical analysis of use cases for Bohm-Ahranov effect, but you may find it interesting. On pg.8-9 the author states that force potentials can in some cases be regarded as having infinite velocity.

Hey so what's the difference between gravity and magnetism?

>>15016083
Interesting thoughts indeed, I find it quite intuitive, that, if Tesla found a longitude-transverse resonant effect in or around his natural media patents, than one may mathematically find this interaction in the Magnetic vector potential term like in Bohm-Aharonov effect.

Given Monstein and wesleys experiment with >>15016074
charge density, and longitudinal waves I am quite curious too any follow up in that paper in regards too

>It will be shown in a future paper that in a system containing an undefined number of charged particles (i.e a superposition of states of different total charge), a new hermitian operator, essential an agnle variable, can be introdcued, which is conjugate to that charge density and may give a meaning to the gauge

>>15016112
a rotating longitudinal wave has a transverse component

hmm, seems i'll have to start thinking in terms of helix waves

>>15016054
>longitudinal waves do not interact with physical objects
By definition longitudinal waves necessitate physical interaction to propagate.

>>15016167
hmms seems the author is also sympathetic to these intuitions

>>15016177
whoops wrong post>>15016136
but to yours i believe anon is refering to the longitudinal waves ability not to get caught on faraday cages and lose energy to induction to the surroundings

>>15012124
Suddenly, I think it's a great idea to press garbage into roads to make cities grow like trees upwards as well.