/sci/ - Science & Math

so uh what happened?

>>14998087
Thread archived automatically, I guess.
At least I had the chance to create it myself this time

>>14998087
you showed up

when will new glenn do anything?

>>14998097
they're aiming for late 2023, berger says 2024, so you can probably count on 2025 or 2026

>>14998097
BO doesnt brag about things they havent done, unlike Elon

>>14998100
no one said anything about bragging
never forget

>>14998085
personally I find the surface of Venus to be more sexually attractive

>>14998105
It has a girl name for a reason

bbc moment

>reading about space force
>most enlisted have bachelors degrees
>most officers have graduate degrees
no wonder its hard to make the cut

>>14998085
Glass the Earth, demigod war eventually

>bill gates starts a rocket company because all the cool kids are doing it
>all the software used is required to be windows
>crew is coming down to earth
>the computers on the capsule want to install an update
>they can't stop the update from happening
>capsule crashes
>no survivors

>>14998148
>in all caps
NO STOP TAKING PHOTOS OF THE DAMAGE NO NO NO NO

Oops didnt mean to respond to bill gates anon oh well have a (you) for your greentext

>>14998157
aw shucks the launch tower needs fixing
that will be 500 million (cost plus)

>>14998161
every (you) makes me cum so hard it almost fills my empty soul

>>14998148
slick Willy is too integrated with globohomo to even think about a space venture, he'd prefer if all the crabs were safely situated in a single bucket

/sfg/ is shit and Reddit tier now

>>14998024
Reposting
>What advantage does a space-based DSN have over just having more ground stations?

>>14998183
>now
It's been shit since the SN hops brought in waves of newfags that destroyed the comfy vibe forever. Still doesn't stop it from being the best place to talk spaceflight

>>14998105
Where are all the jungles and dinosaurs and venusian women that we were promised?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGYbwnTlmrs

>>14998195
its all under the clouds
those "venus" pics are actually taken in arizona by stanley kubrick
do not believe in reptilian lies

>>14998085
We know that Lunar starship is only gonna carry 4 crew at most, like dragon, and i doubt NASA has enough experiments intended for HLS to fill up a starship. I know this will never happen, but I think a really funny PR move would be to use an extra floor and just make the crew quarters as retardedly luxurious as possible. private rooms, queen sized (gravity optimised) beds like the kind you'd find in a really nice hotel room, desk for each room, fancy couch, large window, and large infotainment screen. Impractical and audacious as possible, just to show off the sheer capability of this thing and to give a good comparison of how apollo treated space exploration vs how SpaceX plans on doing it. I made a drawing with the size of a queen bed (2 meters long) in a 9 meter diameter space, and yeah... starship has some girth.

>>14998215
I think the real move is to give them a breakroom with a full sized ping-pong table

Artemis 1 status update?

30 billion dollars down the drain

>>14998253
But muh pretty launch videos wooooow ebin Reddit updoots we are going (nowhere)

>>14998253
They burned their inadequate launch tower so badly NASA is forbidding anyone from publicizing how busted it is.

>>14998260
stop and consider how many jobs expendable launch towers create

what the fuck is musk doing

>>14998221
I suppose cargo bay could be that once they unload rovers, solar panels, etc.

>>14998284
Saving twitter. With no survivors.

What's stopping SpaceX from putting a retrofitted Cybertruck on HLS?

>>14998251
just check it yourself: https://www.nasa.gov/specials/trackartemis/

there are also third party youtube streams of the site:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbWMFL66sUo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxlD5KMmL5g

>>14998303
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlBy0raZJ6A

>>14998284
>tweet about FSD
What does that mean?

>>14998307
yeah idk why there isnt video or at least still images captured every minute or so

>>14998312
I guess that would have cost another 30 billion dollars.

>omotenashi when?
apparently DSN is still looking for it

>>14998085
>Arizona Desert

>>14998324
Actually, it's my backyard.

>>14998312
Space is hard.

Space nigga made another deep dive
https://youtu.be/bX7qaXKFQ8A

>>14998105
I remember meeting a band ages ago that changed their name to Venera because they thought that penetrating venus was cool.

>>14998344
he even captured eastronaut for the investigation like a proper negro

>>14998344
Negros without negro accents make me uneasy.

dumb question but me no /sci/ regular me /v/ regular so me iq very low. how the fuck do they make a space station on the moon? how do they have enough oxygen and tools and shit to build it and what happens once they got their fancy tent on the moon? can humans breed up there now? is that why they sent a black and a woman to be first race on the moon to breed a babiy?

>>14998284
Not launching starship

>>14998389
we'll have to bring alot of stuff with us, just like camping

>>14998393
Yep. You know when you go camping in the Ozarks and you have to bring your own food and water and oxygen? It's the same thing.

>>14998392
I like to think that musk has a app on his phone that's just a big red button that launches starship, but he's too busy with the twitter app to push it.

Who is Musk's current girlfriend?

>>14998574
An azure avian.

>>14998574
he had a kid recently with some wild-eyed neuralink engineer

>>14998648
That's not a girlfriend. Just a vessel to perpetuate his genes.

>>14998699
>>14998648
You mean Shivon Zilis, but she had twins. Given that Elon has used IVF before, she might not have even had sex with him.

>>14998215
what are you going to do with a bed in 0g, genius?

>>14998712
Nothing.

>>14998574
I dunno but his future one is going to be me

>>14998720
youre not even a girl

>>14998284
its’ over and Shotwell can only watch the crash in slow motion

>>14998702
elon uses surrogates to have his children, i think they did this time too

Wish I was a surrogate

>>14998574
Krystal

>>14998720
but you're not a girl?

>>14998189
It lets you use UV or X-Ray comms without the atmosphere eating them, so you can get more bits per second.

>>14998735
https://twitter.com/scottwx_twn/status/1593902382693261312

https://youtu.be/ptEwQN4KcHo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARqBJxsXUfk
Rocket Lab's ancestor :)

>>14998836
yet another case of billionaires stealing nasa tech and taking all the credit

Another nork missile launch with kino footage
https://twitter.com/nktpnd/status/1593849385892315136

>>14998866
So was that above shot taken from a drone or from a helicopter crewed by people that called Jong-un or his daughter fat?

>>14998260
Does anyone have pics of the burned tower or nah

>>14998746
>>14998800
I identify as a girl therefore I am one

>>14998941
Not how it works

>>14998948
Nazism belongs in /pol

>>14998866
>North Korea gets better footage of their launches than NASA
genuinely what is their problem

>>14998957
How is biology nazism?
Explain please you intellectually challenged cretin

>>14998961
you're being baited retard

>>14998973
Oh I know but I'm engaging with the bait for my own entertainment

I’m curious how the operational flow for the second Starship OFT will go. It will obviously be shorter and faster, but will they skip some of the steps?
Would Booster 9/Ship 25 still do 1 or 14 engine static fires? Or would they go straight to 33 engines? Stuff like that.

>>14999007
It's at least 3 more years before starship orbital attempts

I feel like Demo-2 got more hype than Artemis I, even from normies and the general public.

good morning sirs

>>14998948
Gender and sex are different things

>>14999041
Did Demo-2 launch at ass o'clock in the morning?

>>14999041
Demo-2 had people on board which made it easier for normies to understand and connect with and. Plus Demo-2 didn't launch at a time when most people are in bed

>>14999058
>>14999063
Forgot about that. Artemis I really had not a lot going for it lol.

>>14999050
I didn't have gender with your mother

>>14999041
Trump hyped Demo 2 up and made it an event. He and Pence attended in person, congratulating Elon and NASA after orbital insertion. Biden slept through Artemis 1.

>>14999070
Let that sink in.

NASA finally woke up, like 4 different NASA twitter accounts posted the good shit https://images.nasa.gov/details-BR__NOV_18_ORION_DOWNLINK_2022_322_1229_41000_1723121_1723308

Now that's what I call efficiency

>>14998253
BZZZZZZZZZ

Looks like China is going all in on the starship clone

>>14999145
Superheavy clone*

>>14999145
Probably, straight up, had spies steal the design.

>>14999145
It's a giant New Glenn clone with grid fins.

>>14999145
>no landing legs
Does this mean what I think it does?

>>14999145
>Looks like China is going all in on the starship clone
i fucking bet you musk gave them tech he got from nasa for freebies in china, and now he is too big to fail and the us government can't do shit about it

i fucking bet you will never be a woman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX7qaXKFQ8A

>>14999180
That the renderers copied the design of Superheavy without understanding why it is the way it is? Absolutely.

>>14999200
Great content on GSE

>>14999070
>Biden slept through Artemis 1
As did everyone else

>>14999145
hundreds of villages cry out in fear

>you will never show your rockets to your daughter
it hurts, bros...

>>14999145
My favorite is the white one with the chinese flag and blue accents

>>14999214
I tried to stay up for it, work in the morning be damned. I still passed out well before T-0. Having to admit that you're getting older sucks.

>>14999221
>even the daughter is fat

>>14999229
Slampig in training.

>>14999200

One of the small thrusters just fired.

>>14999214
I watched it.

>>14999145
It looks like a starship/N-1 combiner
>>14999246
Why is it so ugly? Seriously, they couldn't make a clean looking capsule and service module so we get the pencil dick aesthetic?

Electron is vertical at Wallops for its wet dress rehearsal

>>14998215
have it be like the ending room in 2001 kek

Plans for LC-39A

>>14999313

>>14999318

What's the likelyhood of getting a decent mission out to Titan any time soon?

>you can't change the name of a rocket that's already flo-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LVM_3
>ISRO changed the name of GSLV Mk3 to LVM 3 after the successful launch of LVM3-M2 mission.

>>14999263
God I wish

Its based off the Euro ATV vehicle, they didn't even scale it up or anything, weakest service module ever, because Euros have no ambition to do better than basic

>>14999338
Define "soon" and "decent"

>>14999269
Note the Antares pad. Electron is so small.

>>14999313
>no vertical integration facility
It's never happening, is it?

>>14999344
Yeah there was word of this last launch a few weeks ago. Very strange

>>14999346
The UK is working on pic related, not one of these flying dicks that space agencies insist on calling "spacecraft".

>>14999357
Ditching the "GS" makes sense because it doesn't just do geosat launches, but "Launch Vehicle Mark 3" is Astra tier. I wish ISRO gave a shit about its rocket names.

>>14999366
Oh well what can you do. It’s not like India throws a bunch of money into their space program in the first place.
Also:
>Space Launch System
The competition isn’t really too competitive

>>14999338
For a crewed mission: zero. For a more conventional probe: almost zero. The only thing planned for a visit to Titan is Dragonfly and that's not getting there until 2034 at the earliest. There's always the chance that China will try to beat NASA there with a more simplified probe, but those aren't great odds. China's not launching Tianwen-4 to Jupiter until 2029, two years after Dragonfly is supposed to launch and the budget they have for deep space probes doesn't stretch as far as some people seem to think.

>>14999353
It could be that there's just no need. We know that ULA got 60% of the NSSL-2 launches, but we don't have any info about how specific those launches are. The vertical integration capability for Falcon Heavy was talked about before SpaceX won their 40% share. It could be that the Space Force decided to give the large launches that required vertical interaction to the provider that didn't need to build out new capability to provide it.

>>14999362
>working on

No Skylon is a conceptual theoretical spacecraft for the specific engines they are constructing, since like 2010...

>>14999380
Its still far more ambitious than anything NASA, ESA or JAXA are making, which is just trying to replicate the Apollo spacecraft and Soyuz for all eternity.

Yeah I'm thinking we're back

>>14999362
that thing is never gonna leave the drawing board

>>14999382
it's not real though and never will be

>flame diverters spotted
It's over

>>14999390
Mobile flame diverter neat

>>14998300
That's gonna be some pretty serious retrofitting. All terrestrial EVs rely on airflow for cooling.

>>14999380
[math]/unicode{x274C}[/math] It’s over
[math]/unicode{x274C}[/math] It’s beginning
[math]/unicode{x2705}[/math] It hasn’t even begun

>>14999382
No government agency will ever produce SSTOs, that much is clear.
They'll just spend billions to give to all their friends and deliver a samey, non-reusable rocket.

>>14999390
Bros I thought we were just going to shit fire everywhere and holocaust the beetles every launch, truly this a cost blow out beyond belief.

>>14999394
NOOOOOOOOOO FUCK I have become retard the destroyer of latex

>>14999070
>Biden slept through Artemis 1
As he did through most of his public speeches.

>>14999388
Unless its cancelled its still coming.
Meanwhile no space agency is working on anything revolutionary. The closest is China's Starship clone.

>>14999346
The ESM is one of the better-managed pieces of the SLS system, and it's one of the only things on the whole thing that isn't cost-plus.
The whole thing was developed for a fixed $390 million contract with LM, and all future modules go for about $200 million in fixed price.

>>14999346
>3000m/s lower than 2800m/s based on charting
Is someone having a giggle there?

>>14999418
me

>>14999418
>>14999346
>>14999419
here's the original one

>>14999414
>The whole thing was developed for a fixed $390 million contract with LM, and all future modules go for about $200 million in fixed price.
$390M to develop a service module that was already mostly designed and flight-tested and that used main propulsion that was outright gifted to the ESA

Sadly, this does sound like one of the better managed parts of SLS

>>14999421
That's more like what I thought. Fucking NASA, fucking ESA.

>>14999421
Behold, half a century of government-sponsored technological "advancements".
This is why I only have hopes on SpaceX and Blue Origin.

>>14999394
[math]\unicode{x274C}[/math] It’s over
[math]\unicode{x274C}[/math] It’s beginning
[math]\unicode{x2705}[/math] It hasn’t even begun

dumbass

>>14999338
>Magasail

>>14999390
Is that in boca?

>>14999431
Thanks it was a simple yet stupid mistake

>>14999423
$390 million, $200 mil. of which is for hardware, and $190 mil. is for redesigning the interior to suit a manned capsule instead of an unmanned cargo vessel.
The ESM is based on the ATV, but it is pretty far from an ATV's service module.

>>14998105

OLM concrete being torn up
https://twitter.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1594058474341556225
This rocket isn't launching this year.

>>14999447
Both are very based destinations worthy of some pretty huge landers

>>14999431
>>14999438
You can enter unicode directly, with no math needed.
It's over
It's beginning
It hasn't even begun

>>14998105
There was some Venera mission that got terribly unlucky after landing; the cameras had protective lenses which popped off with pyrotechnics, and one of these landed in the exact spot where a ground density testing arm would smash down on, causing them to get data on the compactivity of a lens cap instead of the Venusian surface.

Why is it that whenever NASA or SLS do anything good, /sfg/ immediately doomposts Starship?

>>14999463
/sfg/ very fittingly has the attention span and mood swings of an autistic child.
Think of it like a tug of war between the things that Anon likes and the things that Anon dislikes.

>>14999463
I think there are some people who can't mange to get an erection without posting "it's over" first.

>>14998715
This won't work based on current tether technology. You basically need CNT tethers to keep this shit together.

>>14999463
Ironic shitposting functions as a way for coping.

>>14998389
The moon has a lot of oxygen in the ground as the regolith has oxides. Also, there is probably water ice in the bottom of some craters that never get sunlight. But initially, they will just get supplies sent from Earth.
There, they will spend their time doing research, and maybe there will be tourism too.
>>14998439
haha, you are very smart mr. smartass

>>14999465
>>14999466
>>14999472
Why is everyone mad about Artemis I working though? SLS’ success is tied to Starship now so too.

>>14999480
I'm not, I'm happy that the program is finally progressing in some way, and lunar missions are always neat

Hope they take pics of delporte crater and see if its still there.

>>14999463
That type of shitposting has always been part and parcel of /sfg/

>>14999470

>>14999470
>You need carbon nanotubes to hook up a few hundred tonnes to each other

No

>>14999463
because it’s funny

>>14999499
bro it's not an imaging satellite. whatever pictures they take it will be disappointing in both quantity and quality

>>14999499
Same, also nice double dubs.

>>14998712
Its a fucking lunar starship it spends the majority of it's time in gravity retard

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/11-2022-NSTC-National-Cislunar-ST-Strategy.pdf

>>14999449
>>14999431

>>14998712
Your mom

>>14999535
All this dick sucking about america leading the world in peaceful lunar research but china are the only ones with actual hardware on the surface. Besides a memesats and the LRO, china has all the presence to claim control right now

>>14999561
cislunar is more than just surface, we'll have the high ground constantly

>>14999561
The U.S. government, in collaboration with private entities, will demonstrate the ability to use the
products created by these capabilities to enable an enduring human or robotic presence on the
Lunar surface. U.S. government organizations will leverage collaborations with private entities to
enable capabilities for large-scale ISRU and advanced manufacturing at the Moon, consistent with
the U.S. National Strategy for In-space Servicing, Assembly, and Manufacturing. Use of Lunar
materials should be included in the trade space for Lunar surface elements and operations

Update on the last RS1 launch attempt the other day
https://twitter.com/ablspacesystems/status/1594075236806189058
>Ignition abort occurred at T-1.8s due to E2 turbopump oxygen inlet conditions. LOx conditioning procedures have been updated. Targeting Monday 11/21 at 1pm AKST (10pm UTC) for next launch attempt.

when do we think the next starship test/static fire will be? i’m in texas and could go to boca chica anytime before next monday

LM9 should just do an energia 2 upper stage

>>14999634
they just ripped up the concrete after the last test

Wasn’t there going to be a 360 degree view of the sls launch?

>>14999646
There's a 360 view of a picture inside the Orion

>>14999561
Your point?

High res version of the first earth pic from Orion

>>14999641
Nta but they did it to install a flame diverter, so static fire maybe middle of next week at latest, unless it takes a while to install.

>>14999647
oh my god finally they showed the capsule itself

>>14999652
I get the RCS but why does orion’s ass have so many small thrusters

>>14999652
Haters will say it’s a waste of money (they’re right)

>>14999660
Main engine for larger burns, then eight smaller RCS boosters for exact burns and course corrections.
Main benefit of them is easier maintenance of the complicated NRHO orbit

>>14999647
ITAR

>>14999668
That was my thought though it still seems weird considering Orion’s AJ-10 is WAY more nerf’d compared to Apollo’s. I guess it’s still too powerful for very very small burns needed

>>14999647
BETTER

>>14999431
unicodex2705

>>14999672
Thanks I found mine on twitter but was trying to scour the image archive and flickr for the raw photo. Where did you end up finding it?

>>14999676
That's a twitter filename. Your filename is an iphone filename.

>>14999634
Looks like it will be nothing but shitty weather all week, sorry bro.

>>14999652
Those engines look silly

day 1

>>14999672
What is Z>N>

>>14999681
>alexa
is this unironically the first instance of bezos tech ever making it to space?

>>14999652
>8x spider engines
>1x terrier engine

>>14999686
It's also an iPad

>>14999672
Okay, so twitter really is updated first. It's not anywhere on flickr or nasa.gov image library.

>>14999689
Kek so there isn’t even any hardware? The absolute state.

>>14999676
>Where did you end up finding it?
https://twitter.com/NASA/status/1594075766840516610

>>14999691
Yeah exactly my thought! I bet LM published this before NASA approval lmao

>>14999694
Huh okay weird. Twitter really is the go-to for publishing news. I hope musk allows for certain accounts to publish uncompressed photos in the near future

>>14999394
[math]\unicode{x1F468}\unicode{x200D}\unicode{x2764}\unicode{xFE0F}\unicode{x200D}\unicode{x1F48B}\unicode{x200D}\unicode{x1F468}[/math]

>>14999681
What is with NASA and refusing to cover up wires and shit

>>14999704
It's a test article with a bunch of extra sensors and shit

>>14999703
stop bullying me I know how to do it, I just typed my forward slashes as back slashes in the heat of the post (many such cases)

>>14999706
My gut tells me this is what the final capsule will look like anyways. NASA can’t into clean interiors

NASA image archive bros… we were supposed to find all the cool photos before everyone else
Not like this. Not like this :(

they are up to something

>>14999682
It's Z>И>

>>14999722
Apparently they’re also tearing up part of the concrete base on the OLM

>>14999723
Who the fuck is VSVN????

>>14999711
you're gut is wrong

>>14999731
Guess we’ll wait in see when the next Orion launches in 2032

>>14999725
for the new flame diverters i presume?

>>14999731

>>14999726

>>14999726
/sfg/ cant answer this without being sarcastic/rude so I dont ask anymore

>>14999733
For suborbital pad, its gonna be a raised pad I think.

>>14999672
Please stop removing logos. These people work really hard and risk their lives to bring you such amazing content. Shame on you.

>>14998189
In the near future there will be constellations of satellites in lowish orbit around most planets and moons. These will accurately map each body. Additionally, they’ll be networked together to give constant/near constant datalink with rovers on the surface. Additionally they’ll also be able to send/receive signals from other bodies in the solar system. Several will always be in view of any given point in the solar system, and if they’re occluded they can use another set of satellites around a different body to take the signal. I.e if the sun is between mars and earth, they use venus as a relay). The new deep space network will have clouds of dozens of satellites around dozens of heavenly bodies. These satellites will also scan for asteroids and catalogue everything of interest from different vantage points.

>>14999752
No bacterial marketing, cuck.

>>14999752
Thank you

>>14999752
Don't be a faggot and try to give those guys credit for images they didn't take.

>>14999752
kek you should have made the logo huge to the point where it overlaps with the capsule, and then blown out the saturation so everything is ugly as fuck

>>14999753
puny little starlink type satellites aren't going to communicate over interplanetary distances you galoot

>>14999759
and make sure it's a nic ansuini logo

>>14999647
>>14999672
>>14999752
Reminds me of the thunderbirds pirate TV station

>>14999762
starlinks could grab the communication from the various moons around a planet then all of then send it to a big dish/laser that will then relay back to earth

>>14999772
You still have a bandwidth problem dumbass

>>14999773
how

>>14999773
>laser
>bandwidth problem
we've had this discussion before. you're retarded

>>14999773
Based and true there is no disagreement (we’ve had this discussion before everyone else was wrong though)

>>14999765
Based Anderson enjoyer

>>14998715
Wire rope is really strong, cheap, and light. Aircraft carriers use 1 3/8 inch thick wire rope, so that’s a good approximation for starship. That gauge weighs about 3.5 lbs/ft. So 1000 feet of cable would only weigh 3500 lbs. that size would need to rotate at about 2.5 rpm to get 1 g at the starships.

WE

>>14999792
WENT

>>14999793
SLOWLY

>>14999792
WEN HOP

>>14999796
AND COURAGEOUSLY

>>14999797
Damn that rabbit has a thick appendage

>>14999797
hopping is all BO is capable of doing

Imagine how hilarious the booster failure would have been if it were a crewed carnival ride lmao

>they're encasing the entire ship im scaffolding to fix the heat shield
why not just roll it back at that point?

>>14999813
um sorry sweaty but the starshit program is all about speed and efficiency, no rolling back to the VAB, no putting engines in a cuckbox. No gimmicks, no excuses.
Orbital flight in two weeks.

>>14999812
I’m 99% sure an 85 year old passenger would’ve just fucking died lol.

>>14999813
They seem to think it’s good enough over there

>>14999817
Kek

moooooooooooooore

https://twitter.com/NASAArtemis/status/1594090801943891968

Capsulets explain yourself. What the fuck happened between vehicle stacking and now? There’s no way oxygen did this. Did they apply some coating? Is this from the exhaust of the LES tower jettison?
Hell even Apollo’s capsule looked better and that was 50 years ago

>>14999826
test capsule pls ignore

>>14999824
>>14999826
cubic hivemind

>>14999826
It was covered up by the escape tower retard.

>>14999836
Yes please go back and actually read my post mongoloid

>>14999824
Stop downloading the compressed to shit twitter copies of the images. Wait for the nasa.gov file.

>>14999848
>nasa exif is sideways
wtf

>>14999847
Orion’s not that stupid, I’m just really sad the audit found each capsule to be $1 bil. Idk how they got that number. (maybe running costs from sitting around for like 20 years? Idk)
On paper NASA bought 3 new capsules for $633 mil. Let’s call it about $200 mil per the three newest capsules. And at 6 seats that’s even cheaper than dragon per seat.
However running costs and other shenanigans will make it way more then the base price, plus I doubt it ever actually takes 6 people. This is all to say I just wish it were cheaper because I want to like it in theory

>>14999848
>>14999850
very weird

>>14999726
subsidiary of SNSV computers

>>14999862
KEK

Give it straight to me anons... is Starship going to launch within my lifetime?

>>14999858
But think of all the jobs it made when the Lockheed CEO bought a new yacht with the embezzlement money.

>>14999679
>>14999641
guess i’ll check again later in the week but won’t plan on it

RS1 Monday

>>14999867
My unpopular opinion is that LM is actually still competent when it comes to space

>>14999824
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>>14999847
>this tin can cost $5 billion dollars
thieves

>>14999874
Thanks, Joe!

>>14999866
No way to say with certain, but you would have to die quite soon.

>>14999866
I've seen a lot of doomposting here but this one is the most stupid so far.
Maybe not this year, but I doubt it wouldn't launch 2023.

>>14999872
Cheap at decuple the price!

It looks like its sending commands?

https://eyes.nasa.gov/dsn/dsn.html

Huge flurry of activity from DSN right now

>>14999889
>62 b/sec
KEK

do you all know if there's any actual interest in laser propelled sails at this moment? most of the papers I can find are either decades old or from breakthrough starshot

>>14999824
it's pointing straight at the sun

>>14999893
Too much power requirements for small tiny sail

>>14998085
Is there a way to unfish-eye photos like this?

>>14999889
Bruh that’s straight up just background noise and error bars talking

>>14999891
that'll be $3 billion dollars plus tip and delivery fee

>>14999889
It's dead jim

I swear there was this old paper for apollo hardware with several saturn c-8 launches and a nuclear thermal stage to do a jupiter flyby. ludicrously impractical but cool to think about.

>>14999898
lmao

>>14999889
we need more DSN dishes now

>>14999898
Its the Up signal though

>>14999907
true but isn’t the base up signal like 1000 bits even on idle? I think they’re waiting for any return signal and until then it’s on “probably dead” listening mode
I could be way wrong though

>>14999647
honestly looks sketchier than starship, still a sexy ass capsule

>lots of Voyager probe hardware is still functional despite age
>it will only be doomed because the RTG ran out of juice
truly sad. That’s not to dog RTG’s, it’s literally better than any other option. But it’s sad that will be what eventually brings it to the grave

You know what I like? SpaceX's Starship! You should click on this image and look at it closely.

>>14999927
So fucking kino how they managed to do a burn a few years ago

>>14999928
That is a lot of Krystal porn.

>>14999826
you could shave with the Apollo CM mirror finish, Orion is ghastly

>>14999928
how did it do the gridfins?

>>14999928
I came all over myself before expanding the image

>>14999939
Don't knock them, it was built on a budget!

>>14999939
Prolly cause all the sensors

>>14999942
it's just overlayed

>>14999927
makes me wonder how they plan to power heliopause probes or those solar gravitational lens telescopes. Do they have nuclear designs for that timescale?

>>14999939
The blown out panel made me think it was Apollo 13 but it says it's 15. I wonder why there's an exposed panel.

>>14999939
SHEEEEESH that’s sexy. Although it seems the actual service module went through a similar thing that orion has. Plus i’ve seen pics of the apollo capsule in LEO / LLO where it seems to have gunked up with a similar blueish fade

>>14999952
the isotope they use has a half life of 87 years if I remember correctly

>>14999913
The actual hull was solid as shit, but all the mylar/mm-thin plating awards the LM with the ‘sketchiest looking spacecraft ever flown’ award, I think

>>14999958
SIM bay nigga, you should know this. Embarrassing.

>>14999967

>>14999967
for sure, not to lend any credence to moon landing deniers but when I see the LM I understand why they might think it's a prop

>>14999967
any picture of the inside of LM

>>14999928
>pictures are just randomly arranged with a starship on top
lazy

>>14999978

>>14999978
descent render

>>14999967
The more I look at it the more it looks like a gradeschool crafts project

>>14999978
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kGq7Qc1xpk4

>>14999824
I'm sure Orion is going to fucking RUD on reentry.

>>14999978

>>14999989
>>14999967
>>14999913
Apollo LEM without Mylar cover

>>14999978
Even if it’s cramped due to NASA design demands, starship is gonna be one hell of an upgrade

>>14999999
checked

>>15000001
where did they sit and how did the pilot look at the moon

>>15000003
Sweet I was going to post this as well. Yeah it really goes to show how sturdy the thing actually was. It’s just the paneling that makes it look sketch

>>14999999
HOLY GET

>>14999999
BASED

>>15000012
The whole thing was kind of jank. You didn’t really sit so much as “lean back,” the lunar module was basically tilted the whole time up until right before landing so they could see the surface, and there wasn’t any room to lay down without jerryrigging hammocks so sleeping was really difficult for some of the astronauts

>>15000012
>where did they sit
in 1/6 g even a fatass like you can stand up for minutes at a time

>>15000000

>>14999999
how could you do this to poor orion...

>>15000027
damn that's hc. I'd live to do sketchy experimental shit like that

Me anytime someone asks me about the Saturn V / CSM / LM
https://youtu.be/CpjH9M2SYsk

>>14999999
checked

15000069 did I get it?

>>14999999
wew lad

>>15000073
fuck

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-shares-james-webb-history-report
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/nasa_historical_investigation_james_webb_0.pdf
>Advancing full equality for LGBTQI+ Americans is a core value and priority for NASA. Building a more inclusive future requires we honestly and openly confront our history, including the times when the federal government has fallen short of supporting LGBTQI+ communities. Today, NASA shared findings from an investigation into the historical role of former NASA Administrator James Webb, after whom its flagship infrared observatory is named. The report found no evidence that Webb was either a leader or proponent of firing government employees for their sexual orientation.
>NASA’s chief historian led a review of over 50,000 pages of documents from archival collections at NASA Headquarters; NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center; the National Archives and Records Administration; the National Archives at College Park, Maryland; and the Truman Presidential Library, in addition to secondary literature and other historians’ work on this time period. NASA has shared the full report on its findings related to Webb’s history. The report lists every document and collection the historians located and includes facsimiles of the most relevant.
>Based on the available evidence, the agency does not plan to change the name of the James Webb Space Telescope.
Based NASA

>>15000080
W

>>15000080
if that bullshit somehow fucked the launch date I'd commit a hate crime

>>15000082
E

>>14999999
checked.

>>15000084
G

>>15000080
even if he was found to be a homophobe I'd be against renaming the telescope. They need to pick the correct name right away

>>15000088
A

>>15000080
>LGBTQI+
>QI

>>15000091
A

>>15000094
A

>>15000092
lol

>>15000080
>core values
LMAO

>>15000113
Mars?

>>15000123
Yep

>>15000126
just a mineral deposit, nothing to see here

>>15000113
Pluto?

>>14999824
can't believe the machine god let this escape from the depths of the gravity well
>>15000092
he should return to /sci/ for another friendly round of bantz

>>15000113
Titan?

>>15000128

>>15000136
why would the next Nobel Laureate in physics come here?

>>15000126
looks like a crocodile

>>15000146
Imagine riding over those with electric dirtbikes and the sick (lack of) air you could catch in 0.38g.

>>15000113
The Sun?

>>15000126
I have an intense desire to go there and snap off all the spikey pieces.

>>15000169
They briefly tested dirt bikes in lieu of the lunar rover for the Apollo program. Kek imagine how much fucking air Cernan would have committed to

>>15000174
do it under the influence of heineken, wine, and/or weed and you’re basically the average geologist

>>15000174

>>14999999
rip orion

>>15000169
no ones doing stunts where, if you smash your visor, you're dead

Fucking Elon

>>15000187
polycarbonate doesn't smash

>>15000202
You're seething tranny

>>15000202
Based Elon. It's wild how much worse this timeline would be without him

>>15000202
gonna cry?

>>15000202
Yeah, that's what I want.

>>15000209
He's a fucking wildcard

>>15000202
Fuck off lmao

Imagine being the first person to cum on a Mars rock

>>15000202
Only if you're a fertile woman

>>15000218
I might not be the first to cum on the Moon, but I'll be the first to cum IN the Moon

>>15000202
*Fucking based Elon

>>15000202
>now liberals are complaining that a vote was rigged AGAINST them
I don't think 2020 was stolen but still that is a TOP LEL

>>15000218
imagine the first person on /int/ to post with a mars flag

>>15000230
>I don't think 2020 was stolen
It was. They did the exact same shenanigans this year without Trump on the ballot.

This actually happened

>>>/wsg/4837845

SPACEFLIGHT?

>>15000240
Yes.

>>15000243
American rocket from American soil with American astronauts

American will go to the Moon and Mars.

>>15000202
Based

>>15000243
I love the Mexican people. You could probably fit 300 of them in here. Excellent people.

>>15000230
literally how
the shit was brazen enough that even banana republic dictators in africa would be insulted and embarrassed by the atrocious standards

>>15000202

>>15000206
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>>15000275
falling for such bait

FUCK ALL OF YOU STARLINER IS A FUCKING BEAUTIFUL LOOKING CAPSULE
I hate boeing with every fiber of my being though

>>15000202
biden bros...

>>15000331
It's literally a penis head.

>>15000250
with the next MAN and first WOMAN

>>15000331
The future of space flight circa 2005

>>15000331
Hey, add least it has a cheese grater

>>15000331
well yes but we have to get away from this capsule concept anyway.
We need an ascent and descent vehicle to get into orbit, and the rest of the way we need an interplanetary spaceship with some kind of spin gravity to make sure that the crew remains healthy.

>>15000331
hard for space stuff to not look cool but please they need to ditch this
I hope NASA decides to invest on neutron and/or dream chaser as the alternative to dragon

>>15000331
it looks great
for 50 years ago
it has absolutely no fucking business existing in 2022

>>15000382
I don’t disagree. Even if starship hasn’t gone orbital the fact that they have made orbital booster landing commonplace, as well as hopped a planned upper stage, shows that capsules and even space planes are no longer needed. Propulsive landing your 1950s-looking sci fi rocket is the best way to do it

>>15000393
Even NASA knows this. They absolutely understand that the next big thinf is actual spaceships, which is why tehy want to learn how to transfer fuel in orbit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG9EgxGsJuQ

>>15000202
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG9EgxGsJuQ

Okay so seriously what the fuck happened to “test-destroy-test”

>>15000469
politics and bureaucracy
hundreds of bugman bean counters need to be properly serviced before anything can continue at pace

>>15000469
the cost of "destroy" became too great

>>15000469
that's silicon valley fascism and we dont do it anymore

>>15000382
capsule does have the benefit in some mission profiles of being able to ditch your interplanetary transfer vessel into a heliocentric orbit and aerocapturing the crew in the capsule directly into landing. Depending on if you see the next century of manned spaceflight being primarily exploratory or colonial that might make sense.

So far the US has 3 working crewed vehicles
>Orion
>Starliner
>Crew Dragon

2 suborbital craft
>SpaceShip from Virgin Galactic
>BO New Shepard

Multiple In development
>Starship (2022/3, crew rating maybe in 24/25)
>Dreamchaser (February 2023)
>Jarvis from BO
>That concept from Rocket Labs presentation

anything I'm missing?

>>15000485
at least make your own pic mashup and don’t steal it from a faggot on twitter

>>15000485
have they mentioned jarvis recently?

>>15000485
>orion
>working
it doesnt even have life support yet
>starliner
>working
i'll believe it when i see it