/sci/ - Science & Math

>1 in 4 Americans believe in astrology

>>14993952
No one has seen the big bang, it's just a theory (a geuss)

>>14993958
surprised so many men believe in it

>46% of all Americans believe in ghosts
>32% believe aliens have visited Earth
>7% believe in vampires
>6% believe in zombies
>For Independent voters, the number of people believing in vampires or zombies is much higher, at 15% and 14% respectively.

>>14993974
>Vast majority of parents eat their child's Halloween candy
Science just showed most Americans are psychopaths

>>14993952
>>14993958
>>14993974
belief in science puts people in the same position there is no difference

>>14993960
>a theory is a guess
You have to be 18+ to post here

>>14993974

>>14994022
Here here. The last couple of years really cemented that into irrefutable Truth.

ANYthing can become a dogmatic belief system independent from reality.

>>14994040
>Wormholes don't exist because... they just don't okay???!!

>>14994047
Spirits are the collective electromagnetic field of all living creatures and accounts for why predator and prey evolve in tandem, not sequentially.

I...did my these on this...we can go toe to toe but I will win...

>>14993958
Ameribros... when did we become so dumb!?

>>14993952
>WHAAAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME FORM OF VERY RARE APE SPECIES THAT ONLY FEW PEOPLE HAVE SEEN?!
>AAAAAAAA I GONNA DEBOOOOONNNKKKK!!! I'M DEBOOOOOONNNKKKIIIIINNNNGGGGG AAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

>>14994056
As expected, the atheism hater turns out to be a full blown schizo

>>14993952
Bigfoot either exists or doesn't, so 50-50.
Big bang either exists or doesn't, so 50-50. Same odds.

>>14993952
>why aren't they buying the heckin' Big Bungus koolaid?!?!
For the sake of argument, let's suppose Big Bang theory is true. What conclusion should I draw from the fact that most Americans don't believe in a story they cannot validate, cannot connect to anything observable, and that has absolutely no bearing or relevance to real life? Sounds like "REEEEEE why won't these people trust authority???" to me.

>>14994113
It has relevance to real life since it disproves your god. Try again sweetie

>>14993952
If I find bigfoot, what are the chances we have sex? Will she take me to her rape cave?

>>14993958
How can you call yourself a christian if you believe in astrology?

>>14994115
Why are you sperging off about your cult's designated boogeymen? I asked a simple question.

>>14994144
I answered your question because you were too stupid to figure it out by yourself

>>14994152
What god? You sound like you're having a psychotic episode. What real-life consequences does rejecting your Big Bunga dogma entail?

>>14993952
Why do you fucking retards even bother with this retard tabloid tier nonsense? You're all worse than soccer mom's staring at the magazine rack at checkout

>>14994158
Nta but 'how' does it prove anything? The Big Bang Theory is literally just as nonsensical and requires a complete leap of faith in the exact same vein religion does

>>14994170
Beats me. In any case, a literal priest came up with it. You probably shouldn't take psychotic drones too seriously. Just let them play out their cultlike behaviors and undermine the legitimacy of their own position. :^)

>>14994158
Why are you so mad that god doesn't exist? Grow up retard, this is the 21st century

>>14994115
Religious people already accept all kinds of contradictions and adapt their views to changing cultural and scientific norms, you really think the Big Bang is some kind of silver bullet that will convince them God doesn't exist? Honestly it is more compatible with the Bible than evolution is

>>14994182
What god? Take your meds. What real-life consequences does rejecting your Big Bunga dogma entail?

>>14994186
Religious idiots clearly are upset at it, take this schizo >>14994190 for example. There are many such cases

>>14994194
I don't believe in any gods. Take your meds.

>>14994186
>Religious people already accept all kinds of contradictions and adapt their views to changing cultural and scientific norms
As do all people, but the funny thing is that the Big Bunga fairytale was invented by a Christian priest, who took it as evidence of the power and glory of God, which makes that tard's irrelevant kneejerk reaction even funnier.

>>14994198
Sure you don't schizo

>>14994186
not only is it compatible, the Big Bang is outright officially endorsed by the Catholic Church.

>>14994202
Has it ever occurred to you that you are sperging off irrationally?

>>14994115
>disproves your god
how is that supposed to disprove god
or anything for that matter?
do you understand that this theory was invoked from math and astrophysics right, this is not a fact this is just what those abstract systems showed us, to treat it as a fact is a fanatic behavior

>>14994208
What caused you to become schizophrenic?

>>14994218
How do you know I'm schizophrenic? Because the voices in your head told you I'm a Christian? :^)

>>14994219
>How do you know I'm schizophrenic?
I'm sure that sounded less schizophrenic in your head

>>14994222
Your replies are indistinguishable from a basic spambot.

>>14994223
Why did you get so upset that I correctly diagnosed you with schizophrenia?

>>14994232
Is the voice telling you I'm upset the same one that told you I'm a Christian, or is there an entire ensemble?

>>14994047
may i see it?

>>14994246
You schizos really can't answer a simple question can you? Get fixed soon, you're a hindrance to sane people.

>You schizos really can't answer a simple question can you? Get fixed soon, you're a hindrance to sane people.

>>14993958
>catholics believe in astrology this much
do christians even?

>>14994182
See
>>14994170

>>14994281
>p-p-please debate me, psychotic zealot

>>14994047
Show us one.

>>14994091
Literally everything I post is backed up by scientific research and published in books.

>Backed up by POP-SCI WEW LAD SCOIECE!

You got BTFO by popsci faggorty, neck, now, gtfo, never post again.

You dont read books.........

>>14994281
There's nothing to see there, just schizophrenia. Just like >>14994293

>>14994293
>proudly citing his popsci library
>expecting other people to be impressed
take your meds, retard.

>ITT: Big Bunga zealots seethe because their creation myth is near universally rejected

>muh big bang theory
>Give us one free miracle and we’ll explain the rest.
The existence of some animal Big Foot is more plausible than any scientific theory of everything. The masses are smarter than the so called intelligentsia.

>>14994332
the big bang is not a theory of everything

My dad sits on the couch all day screaming about Q conspiracies and waiting for the rapture.

>>14994334
Ok autist you get the point. Scientific theory of how everything came to be. Happy? GRAND THEORY OF NOTHING

What is the chances that the participants are lying for fun? I would definitely do that if I was forced in that position.

>>14994115
>God said "Let there be light!"
There you go, the Big Bang, started by God. That was pretty easy. Amazing that your brain is so smooth that you couldn't predict something so obvious.

>>14994341
My dad sits on the couch all day screaming about the klan and waiting for true communism and equality.

>>14994357
thats based

>>14994357
Boomers, man. These left behind movies suck too.

>>14994356
>he thinks the big bang started with light
How embarrassing...

>>14993952
haven't ya'll seen a bigfoot portal?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSbjTcQxfcQ

>>14993952
the laws of physics are pretty crazy, you should read them
https://www.reddit.com/r/TechnologyAndAliens/comments/ypzufg/the_space_war/

>>14993952
>more distractive decisive baseless random opinions vomited out as if they were objective facts

these popel deserve the rope

>>14993974
>For Independent voters, the number of people believing in vampires or zombies is much higher, at 15% and 14% respectively.
these are the 'people' democrats and republicans try to appeal to every election cycle lmao

>>14993952
Whatever you see on the media is correct.

Thats what most Americans believe

>>14993952
>>14993958
>>14993974
These tests are always so shit because the people willing to participate in these are often biased towards believing these

>>14994040
No one in the scientific field worth a damn actually believes wormholes exist. It's a theory. Not like the big bang theory, more like an speculation or a thought experiment

>>14994323
EVERYTHING EVERY GENETICIST HERE POSTS IS GARBAGE AND STUDENT LEVEL

I'VE HEARD "YOUR LEADERS" WORKS.

ITS TRASH, LIKE YOU.

>Tangled Tree of Life
>How scientists used gene sequencing to elucidate the evolutionary relationships between living beings.

LATERAL GENE TRANSFERS.

>Entangle Life
>Darwin's metaphor of an "entangled bank" is often used to describe the multiple and various interactions between species.

SYBIOSIS AND HYBRIDIZATION.


EVERYTHING YOU KNOW ABOUT REALITY IS WRONG.

KILL YOURSELF, SHITBAG

>>14994293
>audio books
You didn't read the book.

>>14994440
I watch videos about physics or mathematics when I peruse them. Im whats known as "hyper-aspie". Im not reading to "read every retard word by retards with Dr in front of their name."

Im listening for small bits of key information. Each book has one or two lines in it that matter. Key aspects of their field, which when connect with another Drs works, his book, makes connections no singluar doctor notices.

The rest of the book is garbage, like everyone else here.

>>14994449
>He's the kid who reads one chapter and puts the book on his "completed" list
Hyper aspie indeed.

>>14994435
>"YOUR LEADERS"
Take your meds, I don't give a fuck what popsci says and neither should you.

>>14993952
Americans believe in everything which is Big <something>

>>14994449
youre literally the perfect example of the dunning-kruger effect.
youre a retard who thinks hes a genius

>>14994056
>i did my thesis on this
and how loudly did the prof laugh?

>>14993958
>Or that the position of the stars and planets influence people's lives
The tides are a thing, so this is objectively true.

>>14994170
>big bang requires faith like religion
nice tu quo que fallacy retard. tell me, what math is used to derive the existence of god? what does the cosmic background radiation point towards?

>>14994186
because the big bang says earth was created in 6 days, and every other celestial body in another day. yea, sure buddy, sure big bang supports the bible lmao

>>14994200
>tfw you come up with a hypothesis that actually goes against your beliefs
big bang doesnt support the bible at all. inserting god into it is just the god of the gaps fallacy

>>14994356
>god created everything from nothing
but big bang proposed everything was already there. the universe wasnt created, but changed

>>14994775
The Big Bang was invented by a Catholic Priest to prove the existence of God.

>>14994324
>near universally rejected
>is actually accepted by the overwhelming majority of the scientific community
congrats, youve got the retards on your side

>>14994343
so a scientific theory that's mathematically consistent is less likely than the existence of an animal which has no solid evidence of existing?

>>14994332
>t. retard thinks big bang is about everything coming from nothing
creationist logic to think anything comes from nothing lmao

>>14994781
>it's accepted by the overwhelming majority of my cult!!
And yet you are losing your mind over the fact that it is rejected by the vast, vast majority of humanity.

>>14994774
It's quite telling that your 80 IQ mind can't grasp how laughably subjective your "proof" against creation is even after having it pointed out to you that the guy who came up with it thought it proved the exact opposite.

>>14994780
and it does nothing to prove any god exists, let alone any SPECIFIC god. you people forget that there more than just your god
this just boils down to "idk what kicked the big bang into gear, so it mustve been god," the god of the gaps fallacy. like the gap between your ears

>>14994792
You're just mad you don't know that the science you worship exists to prove another religion.

>>14994787
the majority of humanity thinks theres an invisible man in the sky who created everything from nothing and is constantly judging your every move.
Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!

Also where your global statistics for belief in big bang?
And what of the fact that there was a point in time that the majority of humanity believed the earth was the center of the universe, or that seizures were caused by demonic possession?

>>14994792
The Big Bang also doesn't disprove the existence of a god, which was the claim earlier in the thread.

>>14994791
>the guy who came up with it thought it proved the exact opposite
and the guy who discovered radiation thought it was safe. but oh boy was he wrong.
blind belief leads people off cliffs yknow

>>14994787
>cult
another tu quo que fallacy. big bang isnt a belief based on faith tho, it's based on evidence. calling a field of science a cult just goes to show how little you know about science

>>14994794
how can i be mad at what i dont know? nigga youre retarded
also it proves no religion correct

>>14994799
it disproves claims made by scripture that claims gods are real. disproving the bible disproves god, as god only exists in the bible

>>14994794
i dont worship science, i learn about it and apply it. unlike religion, i can actually put to use what i learn, instead of pretending that my little head cannon is reality.
tell me, what piece of precise information has the bible provided humanity that was beneficial? cuz i can tell you about how learning astronomy helped me find my way home when i was lost in the desert

>>14994808
You're mad because I told you, and now you have nothing left of your delusions. Everything you believe is Catholic dogma and supports the Christian worldview.

>>14994818
youre assuming i believe you lmao. just another creatard tactic of "everything supports me belief! even the things that dont!"
tell me, who did adam and eve's children have children with?
do you believe youre inbred?

>>14994115
>subtle b8 since big bang theory has Christian origins

>>14994816
>i can actually put to use what i learn
What big invention have you made, anon? Please show the class.

>>14994823
Yes actually, we descend, genetically as a species, from just one man and just one woman.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1242899

>>14994827
"the only thing you can do with scientific knowledge is build stuff" kill yourself retard
i just explained how scientific knowledge has helped me and you still ask for an example

>>14994832
You haven't shown anything, anon.

>>14994798
You're seething because almost no one believes your creation myth.

>>14994831
>https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1242899
>subscription news
you read the abstract and assumed you knew everything about the paper.

"It has been suggested that the date of our last common maternal ancestor could have be three times older than that of our last common paternal ancestor." that part alone goes against the fairytale of genesis. and shows you cant fucking read

also you believe youre inbred lmao

>>14994806
>big bang isnt a belief based on faith tho
I have some bad news for you: unless you're an astrophysics expert capable of evaluating the validity of this fairytale, you are gobbling it up based on faith.

>>14994801
>the point
>...
>...
>your head
Legit 80 IQ.

>>14994838
>he doesn't have a journal subscription
Anon, I...

Their conclusion is that in fact the two common ancestors lived within the same timeframe, because the date for the Y chromosome ancestor has been pushed back to within the X chromosome ancestor's margin of error.

>>14994836
>>14994816
>i can tell you about how learning astronomy helped me find my way home when i was lost in the desert
maybe you should work on your reading comprehension and read something other than bronze age fairytales
>>14994837
only 40% of the us believes that the earth was created by a magic man in the sky some 6,000 years ago. meanwhile almost every scientific professional believes in the big bang.
all youre doing is showing how much you love the bandwagon fallacy because youre a retard who cant think for himself

>>14994842
I'l concede that you are descended from one man and one woman, but the time scale is a lot more recent than what this paper is talking about.

>>14994847
>only 40% of the us believes that the earth was created by a magic man in the sky some 6,000 years ago
Now tell me how many of us believe in your alternative creation myth. That's right, somewhere around 0%. It makes your cult seethe hard enough to pump out articles about it and argue vigorously.

>>14993974
I hope you guys never make decisions that hinder on whether or not ghosts, aliens, astrology, or bigfoot (apparently a highly psionic very old species native to earth who live underground). cause it's all real. what you're all ignoring is the fact that the hard problem of consciousness is unsolvable. everything is conscious/consciousness is ubiquitous and it's for this reason that all these things are real, save intelligent species other than humans. that stuff is real but the government hides it and is trying to figure out right now how best to tell everyone. look up the congressional hearing on ufos may 26th 2022. but even congress is in the dark.

>>14994848
Hahahaha seething. Are you upset that science isn't conforming to your biases? Here let me help.
>youre assuming i believe you lmao. just another materialoid tactic of "everything supports me belief! even the things that dont!"

>only 66% of American millennials believe the earth is round
America is doomed.

>>14994842

lmao subscription based faggotry
also why are you running from the question "who did adam and eve's children have children with?"
And you cant really be so autistic as to make the jump in logic that those people MUST have been adam and eve. theres no proof for it, you're just cherry picking information

>>14994839
dont mistake your retardation and lack of understanding as my own knowledge on the subject. just because you know jack shit doesnt mean im as ignorant as you are

>>14994841
>maybe if i keep saying the same thing, itll be true!
>>14994849
>Now tell me how many of us believe in your alternative creation myth. That's right, somewhere around 0%
citation? and again, band wagon fallacy. a large amount of people believing in something does not add to the credibility
>creation myth
project harder fag>>14994853
>Are you upset that science isn't conforming to your biases?
ironic coming from someone making leaps in assumption to make science fit their preconceived belief
also, that isnt me

>>14994860
>mouth breather fails at basic reading comprehension while trying to call others stupid

>>14994863
>also why are you running from the question "who did adam and eve's children have children with?"
>And you cant really be so autistic as to make the jump in logic that those people MUST have been adam and eve. theres no proof for it, you're just cherry picking information
Trust The Science. Are you a Science Denier? The Science is settled.

>>14994860
its already been shown that people more likely to respond to these questions are more likely to have more outlandish beliefs. Blindly believing shit like this is like believing cnn when they say biden has a high approval rating, because they only ask libtards

>>14994863
>my own knowledge on the subject
No one cares about your supposed knowledge on the subject. My point stands completely unchallenged. Anyway, your cult is losing ground on all fronts. The failure of your creation myth to catch on is really the least of your worries. Your entire worldview and system of values are being rejected.

>>14994866
and what science says that adam and eve were real? again, you're running from the question. adam and eve could only have children with their own children. bro, you worship a book about incest leading to humanity, and you think your opinion matters?

>>14994870
>and what science says that adam and eve were real? again, you're running from the question. adam and eve could only have children with their own children. bro, you worship a book about incest leading to humanity, and you think your opinion matters?
The Science says that, you antivaxxer chud. mt-DNA and Y-DNA confirms it.

>>14994869
you do, you care since you were so adamant to say my belief stems from faith. and your point isnt unchallenged because youve made no point, other than you think your mom and dad are related

>>14994866
Trust The Bible. Pi = 3, Bats Are Birds, Rabbits Chew the Cud. God Said It, That Settles It.

>>14994874
cope

>>14994880
Sad that you're denying Science! The Holy Peer Review of the most wise and dedicated Scientismists has produced a holy Papal Bull which I delivered unto you. Are you rejecting your own faith?

>>14994874
the retard diverts, as he knows he has lost and has nothing more to add. cant prove his fairytale to be true and lives in a head fantasy where big bang is this universally rejected idea instead of the most substantiated theory on cosmology that exists
hyper-aspie dunning-kruger is a helluva combination lmao

>>14994884
where does science support the fairytale of adam and eve? the same science you claim supports your bullshit also says there was never less than a few THOUSAND humans at once

>>14994890
Just so we're clear, I'm making fun of you because I already posted a citation proving that scientists believe due to DNA evidence that we did descend from a single man and a single woman who lived at the same time period. Not only that, but scientists also believe that the human population was reduced to a genetic bottleneck of less than 10,000 human beings in the relatively recent historical past.

Trying to "counter biblical narratives" by citing scientific papers is the definition of playing stupid games to win stupid prizes, because the vast majority of scientific facts are either produced by believers or confirm your wildest accusations as factual in the eyes of research. You might as well just shut up and live with it because people are quickly losing faith in your religion.

>>14994884
>youre a science denier!
he said, as he denied big bang

>>14994878
>you do, you care since you were so adamant to say my belief stems from faith.
I don't because my point has nothing to do with "your" beliefs. You are a nonperson and my point was not about you.

>>14994899
The margin of error in DNA studies doesn't allow for resolution of exact numbers below a couple thousand. It could be 10,000 or it could be 2. The reason you people get BTFO'd is because you'll affirm that you believe only in science and then viciously deny it when it comes into the realm of proving the Bible right. You're not a free-thinker, you're just a cultist whose cult calls itself anti-theistic.

>>14994903
Oh no I affirm the Big Bang. In fact it's accurate Catholic Dogma and confirms God's Creation.

>>14994901
but the citation proves nothing to the identity of those individuals and it actually goes against the bible's account consider it was over a hundred thousand years ago

>trying to "counter biblical narratives" by citing scientific papers is the definition of playing stupid games to win stupid prizes
oh but using it to prove biblical narratives isn't stupid?
also by continuing to use the tu quo que fallacy youre showing youre either too stupid to understand science, religion, or both

you keep claiming less people are believing in big bang, yet have provided 0 statistics for that. what, do you expect me to blindly believe you?

>>14994917
>you keep claiming less people are believing in big bang, yet have provided 0 statistics for that. what, do you expect me to blindly believe you?
I never once claimed that, some other anon did. I'm only here to make fun of you for being a dogmatic schizo by providing evidence from scientific facts that your narrative is collapsing.

>>14994912
how does it prove god is real?

>>14994907
ig youre right, because big bang isnt a belief its a fact

>>14994909
because the bible isnt right. bats arent birds, space isnt made of water, earth wasnt made in 6 days, there is no firmament, the earth isnt flat, and the stars wont fall from the sky. sorry im concerned with not believing in bullshit
>You're not a free-thinker
projecting
>>14994926
really? what evidence is that? Because so far theres no evidence for the existence of adam and eve specifically, except for the bible, which also claims a bunch of other bullshit we know is false

>>14994926

maybe instead of throwing a shit fit at big bang, you should first prove your religion to be anything more than the creativity of some long dead cult leader. theres as much evidence for your god as there is for the flying spaghetti monster

>>14994931
>big bang isnt a belief its a fact
My point stands even if it were a fact (although your dogmatic screeching proves that you are a cultist and not an astrophysicist, contrary to your obviously fake claims).

>>14994931
>how does it prove god is real?
Ask Pope Pius XII or Georges Lemaitre, the guy who invented it.

>really? what evidence is that? Because so far theres no evidence for the existence of adam and eve specifically, except for the bible, which also claims a bunch of other bullshit we know is false
Except for genetics, sure. If you're willing to discount that then you're just a drone without qualia who will believe whatever his programmer told him to. I guess you can go study Lamarck or something if you don't believe in evolution either.

>>14994901
>that we did descend from a single man and a single woman
You never cited anything that implied that. Do you think your mother and father are brother and sister because your maternal grandfather is the common ancestor of you and your mother? Do you think your maternal grandfather had sex with his great grandmother because she's also a common ancestor of you and your mother?
Well, I mean, given how absolutely stupid you are, I wouldn't be surprised if your mother and father were siblings.

>>14994948
>You never cited anything that implied that.
>he didn't read the article or its citations
kek. just admit you're a sciencelet and move on. its ok to not believe in the civic religion of scientism.

>>14994967
Just admit you're literally illiterate and probably the product of recent inbreeding.

>>14994973
Sorry goy, I'm mixed-race. But your inbred parents probably taught you to believe in stuff like "atheism."

>>14994976
Cope harder, sandwich. And also you should consider going back to school so you can learn how to fucking read.

>>14994798
Who hurt you, anon?

Can beliefs really be grouped together this much? I have NEVER been asked to be a part of these types of studies in my entire life.

>>14994860
18-24 isn't millennials, it's zoomies

>>14995032
Study was from 2017. They're 23-29 now.
I fear zoomies will be even dumber.

>>14994783
It’s unfalsifiable woo woo wankery no better than any religion, in fact it pales in comparison to many
>>14994786
Stop embarrassing yourself, dogmatist. You just come off scared and pathetic.

>>14993952
But there's extensive evidence of large non-human primates everywhere in North America, especially in large cities.

>>14995472
jej

>>14995472
theyre called drumpf supporters

>>14995733
poor attempt

>>14993952
>americans believe in one thing that is true and one thing that is false
btw big foot is real

>>14994091
>Schizo he said
>While every single cell of his body, every atom of neurons in his brain is being influenced by the global interconnected electromagnetic field every second of his life, absorbing and also emitting his own ULF EM waves with every thought he makes
ok sheep

>>14994115
finally goldberg, we got rid of their g-d belief, take that yewshua christein

>>14995855
go on, keep proving him right

>>14994113
Maybe you're too young and stream everything, but we used to watch TV, and when your satellite receiver wasn't picking up signal from a satellite, you'd get static.

That static is from the cosmic microwave background. Those are waves from the early universe.

>>14996705
television static is not the cmbr you stupid boomer

>>14996720
It was a common part of 'science for kids' in the 1970s-90s for kids to be instructed to turn to a blank tv channel, turn the brightness knob to the minimum level, and then see the resulting static as being 10% from the Big Bang. No idea of the accuracy of the experiment but it was common.

>>14994810
The term god itself doesn't even come from the bible. God is the chief god of German pagans. I think what you actually meant to say is it disproves yahweh.

Although it doesn't you're just a fucking midwit.

>>14994847
>all the scientists say so
Appeal to authority.

>>14996757
Fallacy fallacy.

>>14997283
Argumentum ad Redditorum.

>>14997705
If you're that obsessed with leddit, maybe you should just go back.