/sci/ - Science & Math

>>14979226
Maybe stop supporting that weird Jewish comedian in Ukraine.

>>14979226
SLAVA UKRAINI! SLAVA UKRAINI! SLAVA UKRAINI!!! Russian trolls like you need to be fucking put in concentration camps!!!!! Fucking retarded polchud putin is literally genociding the ukranian race and all you care about is trees???

>>14979226
>This is making global warming worse for all of us.
Might wanna stop the Brazilians from burning down the Amazon for cattle/basedbeans and the Indonesians from doing the same for palm oil before worrying about Europe

they need to keep their buildings warm or they might suffer cold and mold damage, making things worse

>>14979292
>Let Russia take over Ukraine and the rest of eastern Europe because muh jews

>>14980432
Brazillians burn stuff to produce wood for the most part and for the minor part to produce food. What are europeans burning trees for? To keep their AC and netflix running?

>>14980483
>supporting some gay CIA coup because muh jews
Can we not?

>>14979226
If you're worried about the environment, plant a tree, Chud.

>>14979226
Europeans (and US) are the ONLY nations that have lowered emissions since anyone realised AGW was even a possibility. Europe has reforested and rewilded for centuries. The headlines are describing commercial woodland that would've been used for furniture etc. anyway.

Take your vatnik-commie propoganda back to your third world hovel.

>>14980483
They can't take over Ukraine, but who cares even if they did? Name a realistic potential consequence worse than NATO's worldwide criminality.

>>14980515
>The headlines are describing commercial woodland that would've been used for furniture
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/09/07/world/europe/eu-logging-wood-pellets.html

ANCIENT FORESTS

>>14980529
IT'S LITERALLY NOTHING RUSSIAN TROLL YOU NEED TO BE GENOCIDED SLAVA UKRAINI SLAVA UKRAINI SLAVA UKRAINI

>>14980529
>nytimes
Post a credible news source and I will consider reading it.

>>14980497
I don't think I said this

>>14980516
Russia-China worldwide domination

>>14980535
>mainstream corporate news sources are credible but only when the story is beneficial to the US state department narrative
American corporate golems actually work like this...

>>14980516
>NATO's worldwide criminality.
Building military bases within your own countries is criminal now?

Damn, I guess we should just let Ukranians get invaded because Estonia had the audacity to build defensive forces while Moscow was butchering Chechens.

>>14980544
An NYT article published pre-2014 is credible and an NYT article pusblished post-2014 is not credible. It's not hard nor hypcritical. Just an acceptance of it's decayed credibility.

>>14980548
>An NYT article published pre-2014 is credible and an NYT article pusblished post-2014 is not credible.
Because?

>>14980541
>Russia-China worldwide domination
If this is a plausible scenario, how come you can't provide any credible sources to back up your hysterica? Not that it even matters, since your Russia-China boogeyman would at most be as bad as the genocidal, mass-murdering, totalitarian psychopaths who control the United States of Israel, many of whom are actively engaging in treason and helping prop up China, or simply importing chink-style totalitarian measures into the West.

>>14980545
Constant warmongering is criminal. Funding and organizing international terrorism is also criminal.

>we should just let Ukranians
Yes.

>>14980553
>how come you can't provide any credible sources to back up your hysterica?
Back up what, exactly?

Also who on this board immediately posts sources when making every single statement? You gonna ask that to everyone or just when your ideas are threatened?

>>14980550
Mass purges of the staff and a large influx of politically charged zealots with poor writing skills and no journalistic integrity. The NYT offices these days are full of literal drunks who take cheap bribe money from billionaires.

>>14979226
There is an excess of wood, as the trees are dying anyway. (it git toi warm for spruce in much if central Europe)

>>14980555
>Constant warmongering is criminal.
No it isn't. And your beloved Putin has enjoyed talking about nuclear weapons for quite some time. As with China and their "reunification" with Taiwan that was never part of their state.

>>14979226
There is an excess of wood, as the trees are dying anyway. (it got too warm for spruce in much of central Europe)

>>14980555
>Funding and organizing international terrorism is also criminal.
So you are conflating rogue US intelligence agencies with "NATO" which is a pure defensive alliance?

Ok retard. Then all Eurasianists are literal neo-Nazi LARPers like Wagner.

>>we should just let Ukranians
>Yes.
Are you Serbian? Sorry, we are not going to let you bomb kids on our border. Seethe more.

>>14980564
>constant wormongering is not heckin' criminal!!
Yes, it is, and you should be personally beaten into a bloody pulp.

>>14980564
I doubt their nukes even still fly, now that all their Nazi scientists are surely dead of old age.

If they can't even build a fucking truck without Western components why should I believe they have functioning ballistics?

>>14980566
>So you are conflating rogue US intelligence agencies with "NATO" which is a pure defensive alliance?
No. I am just telling you straight that NATO is known to fund and organize international terrorism, including false flag operations against Europeans.

>>14980569
>Hurr durr
Every time thirdie browncells tune into Vatnik TV and start seething about "Western warmongering" it turns out to actually be thirdie governments that INVITED Westerners to help them stop terrorists kidnapping African school girls or whatever.

You faggots like talking shit while losing a full scale war against a Western proxy, you should be more humble.

>>14980560
>Back up what, exactly?
Your paranoid hysteria about heckin' Russia taking over the world.

>>14980576
I don't know what you're sperging off about. I'm just reminding you that NATO has literally done nothing except killing civilians since its inception.

>>14980569
It isn't and your preferred variety of globohomo to defend does it. Stop crying over words you little bitch.

>>14980570
This is their last resort in war, if anything they'd make work it would be this

>>14980574
>NATO is known to fund
Here's NATO's budget
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_67655.htm#:~:text=The%20civil%20budget,-The%20civil%20budget&text=It%20is%20financed%20from%20national,holder%20of%20the%20civil%20budget.

Notice how small it is. NATO essentially doesn't have a budget.

>>14980579
Because you are too low IQ to understand anything not spoonfed to you by RT.

>>14980577
How is that paranoia? They controlled a large amount of the world until a few decades ago. They also control parts of Georgia right now too.

>>14980581
>constant wormongering is not heckin' criminal!!
It is and you should be dealt with as the mass murder apologist that you are via good old lynching.

>>14980585
>How is that paranoia?
It is paranoia in the sense that you can't back up your delusional fears of le heckin' Russia taking over the world with any concrete evidence. You will prove this by deflecting again in your next post.

>>14980586
If isn't
>the mass murder apologist that you
Take your meds

>>14980584
Every mainstream source agrees that NATO has done nothing except for killing civilians since its inception. It has never defended anyone against anything. What does RT have to do with it? I am basing this assessment entirely on Western sources and the opinions of US geopolitical analyists.

>>14980590
Russia is currently invading a sovereign country to take it over.How is that not evidence that Russia is trying to expand their territories and become more dominant on the international stage?

>>14980591
You and the neocon gang that programs you are quickly becoming the most violently hated bunch of people in the world, both within and outside of the Wes. Don't be too surprised if you literally get lynched at some point. :^)

>>14980581
>This is their last resort in war
It's their last cope.

>if anything they'd make work it would be this
They have slow ballistics from the 70s that we can shoot down easily. The West knows the position of every single source of refined Uranium on Earth while Russian intelligence is limited to how many politicans their women can fuck.

After seeing how Russian subhumans gleefully cheer at tortured Ukranian civilians they deserve what's coming to them. The few millions of good Russians have already left the country anyway, the youth of Russia is gone and never coming back. China has already betrayed them yet again like they did in the cold war.

>>14980596
>Russia is currently invading a sovereign country
So?

>>14980600
What's a neocon?

>>14980595
>(((mainstream source)))
Name just a single one that isn't RT or Al Jezeera? NATO is, by definition, a defensive alliance. You literally don't even know what NATO is lmao.

>>14980603
A neocon is the kind of subhuman trash who thinks "warmonger" is a compliment.

>>14980602
Idiot.

>>14980601
>After seeing how Russian subhumans gleefully cheer at tortured Ukranian civilians
Who's doing this? Some edgelords online?

>>14980602
They obviously have aspirations to expand their territories. They also control a puppet state called Bielo-Russia.

>>14980604
>Name just a single one
Literally any mainstream source that has ever covered NATO operations. You seriously sound psychotic. NATO has never defended Europe against anything but it has instigated and participated in pointless bloodshed repeatedly.

>>14980606
Are these neocons and warmongers in the room with you right now?

>>14980610
>They obviously have aspirations to expand their territories.
That's a total nonsequitur, but even if it were true, your paranoid delusions about le heckin' Putin taking over the world still don't follow.

>>14980616
>They've done things in the past and are doing it now so they'll do it again in the future
Such a non sequitur

Everything is criminal warmongering, except criminal warmongering, which is fine.

>>14980618
Done what in the past? You are having a psychotic episode.

>>14980623
Take over parts of Georgia and Japan and fund and export marxist ideology to Europe to incorporate the resulting marxist states into their marxist empire.

>>14980610
>Who's doing this? Some edgelords online?
The NSA know every individual, and according to most studies it's 80% of Russians. Most of the innocent 20% has left. For the first time in history no one is going to mourn civilian deaths after the digital proof of their crimes are stored and on display for all time.

>>14980612
>Name just one
>"I-I can't IT'S ALL OF THEM OK!"
Fuck off Chinkshill.

>NATO has never defended Europe against anything
It's literally defending Europe right now as you type your lies. Ukraine is a European nation.

>it has instigated and participated in pointless bloodshed repeatedly.
You still can't name a single one of these events you made up.

I can name a few your overlords did:
> First Chechen War 11 December 1994 – 31 August 1996
> Russo-Georgian War Aug 1, 2008 – Aug 12, 2008
> Second Chechen War Aug 7, 1999 – Apr 16, 2009
> Chinese genocide of Uyghurs, 2014-present

>>14980627
I'm not following, how do they know this?

>>14980625
I honestly don't know what your psychotic rambling is about. I asked you for evidence of your paranoid delusion that Russia is threatening to take over the world. You said it's done something in the past that came close to it. Please remind me of a time since the fall of the Soviet Union that Russia has been a serious threat to the golem world order.

>>14980627
>It's literally defending Europe right now
No, it isn't. Russia wasn't invading or threatening to invade any NATO member. Russia and Ukraine were also ready to settle this conflict months ago, until Boris Johnson convinced that kike Zelensky to keep fighting because Putin will fall in two more weeks. lol

>>14980630
The are threatening to expand their territories by expanding their territories by taking over parts of Georgia, Japan and Ukraine.

>>14980634
See >>14980630

>>14980561
>The NYT offices these days are full of literal drunks who take cheap bribe money from billionaires.
Why would the NYT who has been promoting the enviromentalist agenda of UN and WEF suddenly speak something that discredits it?

>>14980633
>Russia wasn't invading or threatening to invade any NATO member.
And NATO wasn't threatening to do those things to Russia either.

>>14980638
I accept your concession.

>>14980641
NATO is constantly warmongering and killing civilians, but what does your response even have to do with anything? Remind me of a single time when NATO defended its members against Russia. You can't.

>>14980644
Where has NATO threatened to invade Russia?

>>14980629
>>14980612
>>14980595
>>14980581
>>14980555

Here's a full and exhaustive list of all NATO operations past and present that this idiot thinks constitutes a "le evil empire.


https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_52060.htm

During the Cold War:
>When NATO was established in 1949, one of its fundamental roles was to act as a powerful deterrent against military aggression. In this role, NATO’s success was reflected in the fact that, throughout the entire period of the Cold War, NATO forces were not involved in a single military engagement.
>NATO forces were not involved in a single military engagement.
>NATO forces were not involved in a single military engagement.
After the Cold War:
>Operation Anchor Guard, 10 August 1990 – 9 March 1991
>NATO Airborne Early Warning aircraft deployed to Konya,
>Operation Ace Guard, 3 January 1991 – 8 March 1991
>In response to a Turkish request for assistance to meet the threat posed by Iraq during the first Gulf Crisis/War
>NATO deployed the ACE Mobile Force (Air) and air defence packages to Türkiye.
NATO literally just sending scouts and airforce to defend its own borders in Turkey.
>Operation Allied Goodwill I & II, 4-9 February & 27 February – 24 March 1992
>Following the break-up of the Soviet Union in December 1991 and the collapse of its centrally-controlled economic system, NATO assisted an international relief effort by flying teams of humanitarian assistance experts and medical advisors to Russia and other Commonwealth of Independent States nations using AWACS trainer cargo aircraft.
> humanitarian assistance experts and medical advisors to Russia
>Operation Agile Genie, 1-19 May 1992
>NATO provided increased AWACS coverage of the Central Mediterranean
Pure intel operation on NATO borders. So far not a single deployment.

>>14980644
>Remind me of a single time when NATO defended its members against Russia. You can't.
It has done that by existing.

>>14980646
NATO has attempted to move first-strike nuclear weapons into neighboring countries more than 10 times since the cold war ended. Does that sound like a defensive alliance to you?

>>14980646
I accept your concession that NATO doesn't "defend" anything. If you had a modicum of sentience, you'd know your worthless deflections only make my point for me that anyone who supports NATO warmongering is a heavily brainwashed zealot.

>>14980647
Current NATO operations:

>NATO in Kosovo
>Having first entered Kosovo in June 1999 to end widespread violence and halt the humanitarian disaster that was unfolding, KFOR troops continue to maintain a strong presence throughout the territory.
>Today, approximately 3,700 Allied and partner troops operate in Kosovo as part of NATO's Kosovo Force (KFOR).

The only actual deployment of NATO in an non-NATO country. Literally to stop Serbs from genociding their neighbours. This is more than worthy and I agree with NATO entirely

>Securing the Mediterranean Sea
>NATO operations are not limited only to zones of conflict. In the aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, NATO immediately began to take measures to expand the options available to counter the threat of international terrorism.
Again, NATO defending its own borders.

>Training mission in Iraq
>The "NATO Mission Iraq" was formally launched at the Brussels Summit in July 2018, at the request of the Iraqi government and in coordination with the Global Coalition to Defeat ISIS
>at the request of the Iraqi government
>at the request of the Iraqi government
>at the request of the Iraqi government

>Supporting the African Union
>Well beyond the Euro-Atlantic region, the Alliance continues to support the African Union (AU) in its peacekeeping missions on the African continent.
>Since June 2007, NATO has assisted the AU mission in Somalia by providing air- and sealift support for AU peacekeepers following renewed AU requests (it had also provided strategic airlift to the AU mission in Sudan in 2005). NATO is also providing capacity-building support, as well as expert training support to the African Standby Force (ASF) Concept, at the AU's request.
>at the AU's request.
>at the AU's request.
>at the AU's request.

>>14980652
>Does that sound like a defensive alliance to you?
Yes, moving military equipment within to our own borders is the very definition of defense you mouth breathing vatnik.

>>14980647
>>14980650
I accept your full concession. Anyway, I don't care about Ukraine, Russia, or Europe for that matter. I enjoy watching your and your subhuman golem nation devolve into overt fascist zealotry as it implodes.

>>14980652
Absolutely. They are moving those weapons to defend against Russian imperialism. Similar to building bases in their own territory that your schizophrenically think is an attack on Russia.

>>14980654
NATO defends by existing as an alliance that would deploy the forces of all of its members if one member were invaded.

>>14980658
>>14980660
See >>14980654

>>14980661
We didn't concede but you're clearly doing that here. I accept yours.

>>14980661
>I-I don't care about this anymore because Russia is losing

We'll my fren, we care about and have been recording every single thing you have posted and we will be visiting your shithole very, very soon.

>>14980664
See >>14980661

>>14980667
>>14980669
See >>14980661

>>14980633
>Russia wasn't invading or threatening to invade any NATO member.
Russia literally threatened both the EU and NATO nations with nuclear escalation. Even before the war Putin directly threatened France with war due to fresh sanctions.

>>14980676
>Russia literally threatened both the EU and NATO nations with nuclear escalation.
Good. I hope he actually nukes you, but my point stands unchallenged. NATO is a warmongering international terrorism organization and now it's trying to drag the world into a nuclear war. lol

>>14980660
>our own borders
Non-NATO countries.

>>14980679
>and now it's trying to drag the world into a nuclear war.
All because Biden is mad his son got caught with his hand in the cookie jar at Burisma. You cannot make this shit up.

>>14980683
>he thinks the US president actually runs the ZOG mafia

>>14980680
Are these non-NATO countries in the room with you right now?

>>14980670
>>14980674
See >>14980667

>>14980679
>my point stands unchallenged.
Your point was completely obliterated here: >>14980647
>>14980658
you racist little brownchud.

>we needed to destroy Libya to defend Europe from Putin's world domination plans!!!
lol

>>14980689
Meds, now.

>>14980693
Reminder: who was it who intervened in the Balkan Wars and caused them to accelerate? Who blew up the Middle East and caused the African rapefugee crisis?

>Operation Gladio was about defending Europe from heckin' Putin, okay?!?!

>>14980702
Uhh... P-putin??

>>14980702
>who was it who intervened in the Balkan Wars and caused them to accelerate
Uhm, random crusaders? Habsburgers? It was mostly a civil war.

You probably meant the Yugoslav Wars though. If you're gonna seethe about not letting Serbians butcher Europeans in neighbouring countries then we're done here.

>we're done here!!
Too bad, I thought someone was going to explain to me how false-flag terrorist attacks against Europeans defending against Putin.

Why did people here stop talking about Eruope being a hypocrite enviromentally and start talking about that war?

>>14980703
Communism is a foreign subversion tool. In a literal sense the communist mind bug was first sponsored by foreigners to destroy the Russian Empire. Ever since communist revolutions have always been funded by foreign agitators.

>>14980723
>The US State Department published a communiqué in January 2006 that stated claims the United States ordered, supported, or authorized terrorism by stay-behind units, and US-sponsored "false flag" operations are rehashed former Soviet disinformation based on documents that the Soviets forged.[19]

So you are saying I should believe Putin, who treats his people like shit and created a literal "Nigeria with snow" over Americans and Europeans who's people live like kings?

This is your mind on Vatnik delusion.

>>14980731
SHUT UP RUSSIAN TROLL

>>14980732
>muh heckin' communists!
Okay, but why did NATO have to perpetrate terrorist attacks against Europeans, and why did it keep doing that even after the dissolution of the Soviet Union?

>>14980731
Because Europe is not a hypocrite on the environment we already settled that in >>14980515.

In addition to its own revolution it also gives billions in aid to thirdies, last year Germany gave a billion euros in aid to India to build solar energy.

Now can we talk about how 90% of the world's polluted plastics come from 10 Asian rivers or are you just here to spout racism?

>>14980734
>why did NATO have to perpetrate terrorist attacks against Europeans
It didn't.

>>14980740
Why are you lying?

Thirdies literally don't know how to use a bin.

>>14980741
I have seen no proof ANTIFAtard so maybe atleast try to post vatnik fabrications. Meanwhile there is ample proof that far-left terrorists have commited the most attacks in Europe in the last 70 years. Even more than Islamic terror attacks.

>>14980747
>I have seen no proof
The false flag terrorism of Operation Gladio is extensively documented.

>>14980748
Based on fake documents.
>The US State Department published a communiqué in January 2006 that stated claims the United States ordered, supported, or authorized terrorism by stay-behind units, and US-sponsored "false flag" operations are rehashed former Soviet disinformation based on documents that the Soviets forged.[19]

Explain to me again, why I should believe far-left disinformation campaigns -who literally think it's a virtue to lie for their cause- over the Americans?

>>14980751
>Based on fake documents.
What evidence do you have that the documents are fake? Also, how do you explain the actual terrorist incidents themselves and the ties NATO? Citing US Propaganda Department denialism doesn't make stuff like the Susurluk scandal go away.

>Ummmm sweaty?!?! The US State Department denied any wrongdoing and blamed the Soviets which proves it dindu nuffin.
You just can't make this shit up. This kind of reaction tells you everything you need to know about the NATO shills ITT regardless of what you think about Operation Gladio. The level of brainwash is unreal.

>>14980754
>>14980765
I will repeat: Explain to me again, why I should believe far-left disinformation campaigns -who literally think it's a virtue to lie for their cause- over the Americans?

>>14980767
You haven't provided any evidence that it's a "far-left disinformation campaign" except for literal US Propaganda Department statement to that effect. Meanwhile a massive amount of circumstancial evidence exists indepedently from any potentially "forged" documents, and strongly implicates your NATO handlers in false-flag terrorism against Europeans and drug trafficking within Europe.

>>14980767
As I said, the fact that you US state department denials are even a factor to you already shows you are brainwashed beyond deblief.

>>14980773
>>14980775
Here's the evidence:
>A wide range of field manuals, including 30–31, can be accessed through websites that catalog U.S. field manuals. However, 30-31B is not among the field manuals published by the military.[8]
The manual is literally fucking online and 30–31 contains nothing about terrorism it's completely unrelated. The forgery pushed only by actual communists and now dissidents.

Meanwhile there are countless examples of far-left terrorists murdering Europeans which are not disputed by anyone, Germany alone:
https://www.generalbundesanwalt.de/EN/Our-role/terrorism/Linksextremistischer-Terrorismus_en/linksextremistischer-terrorismus_node.html
This is in modern times, not even including the communist coups in the 1920s.

You guys are the very definition of useful idiots. It's fine because deglobalisation and the end of Putin's propoganda arm will return you all to the light.

>drug trafficking within Europe.
I have seen far more evidence of Belt and Road funds diverted into funding drug trafficking in Western countries.

>>14980789
>Here's the evidence:
Your snopes-tier factcheck is not evidence of anything. Everything I said still stands. Anyway, you've already shown yourself to be a brainwashed bot so this discussion is closed as far as I'm concerned. No amount of denialism is going to negate the fact that Turkish deepstate NATO plants were caught in the same car with a notorious drug-trafficking terrorist fugitive with CIA ties that somehow kept avoiding arrest while moving freely within the NATO block despite having an interpol warrant for his arrest. lol. The absolute state of golem international terror apologists. Putin launching his entire nuclear arsenal on the US and wiping it off the map would be the single most benevolent act a so-called world leader could have conducted in humanity's favor.

>ummmm sweaty, this manual tied to a secret operation is not among the officually published military manuals therefore it's heckin' fake
These are not real people. They are either paid shills or literal bots.

>>14980483
yes because this is exactly what is going to happen if US stop sending billions to ukraine and provoke russia into nuclear war

>>14980814
Ummm sweaty, Putin has literally taken over Europe every other time it thwarted a NATO takeover of one of its neighbors and he will do so again if we let it. (Please don't mind the fact that Russia agreed to withdraw from Ukraine ages ago in return for an assurance that Ukraine will drop its plants to join NATO)

>>14980820
are you being cynical?

>>14980823
No, I'm being dead serious. Every time the US staged a "color revolution" and failed to intervene with the perfectly predictable Russian reaction to it, Russia had taken over Europe and destabilized the world. :^)

It's very easy to stop sanctions and let russia to provide gas. Europeans commited sucide

>>14980825
>Russia had taken over Europe and destabilized the world.
yeh it happen so many times i can't count

>>14980826
>Europeans commited sucide
No, they didn't. "Their" leaders decided it for them. Protest and criticism are literally being suppressed by police.

>>14979226
Why are Russians still pretending that we're going to freeze here in Europe when October had temperatures ~25°C and our gas reserves are completely filled?
Is this the new cope because you guys lost Kherson?

>>14980853
Why do EU governments suppress protest and criticism if everything is fine? Why do they brainwash you and rile you up against external boogeymen, like any fascist government dealing with internal pressure?

>>14979226
Solar.

But Europe is run by shitty commies and globalists, same "green" ideology in US applies to Europe, that is nothing to do with saving environment or reducing emissions and all about pushing hard left liberal policies like more immigration, discrimination of whites etc.
In my country even if I wanted to build a solar farm using my owm money I could not because globalist puppets determined we have already too much solar and we need different renewable tech so if no ones actually goes with different tech then we will just continue burning oil/gas/coal/trees because we can't have anymore solar

>>14980866
>In my country even if I wanted to build a solar farm using my owm money I could not because globalist puppets determined we have already too much solar and we need different
Were do you get this bullshit? Even if you don't have money you could literally get paid to have solar panels installed on your property.

The Green party doesn't care about the environment though you got that part right.

>>14980861
>Why do EU governments suppress protest and criticism
They don't. Next cope?

>>14981580
>They don't.
Why are you lying and defending them, fascist little bootlicker?

>>14981586
Because I just came from protest?

>>14980515
>Europeans (and US) are the ONLY nations that have lowered emissions since anyone realised AGW was even a possibility.
What the fuck are you talking about? Arrhenius did it over a century ago.

>>14981612
What did you protest, fascist bootlicker? Climate change? lol

Polar vortex is developing abnormally strong this year. The longer it takes for the pressure barrier keeping it in place to collapse, the worse it is going to be when the frigid air flows south.

>>14981653
>south Italy vs north of Scotland
Is that like degrees above/below average or is it just in degrees?

>>14980861
>Why do EU governments suppress protest and criticism if everything is fine?
Where exactly? We let all the retarded pro-Russian antivaxxers hold their demos every so often but neither the public nor the media even cares about them anymore.

>>14981752
>pro-Russian antivaxxers
This has to be a troll right?

>>14981771
The same people demonstrating for Russia were demonstrating again vaccines last/this year.

>>14981752
>We let all the retarded pro-Russian antivaxxers hold their demos every so often
I wasn't even referring to that, but since you bring it up, your fascist handlers actually did arrest anti-lockdown protesters. So again, why is the slava ukraini warmonger narrative more important to you than your own rights? Are you even human?

>>14980483
>maybe we shouldn't let the devil put intercontinental missiles near Rusia

>>14981778
>your fascist handlers actually did arrest anti-lockdown protesters
Not in Germany at least.
>why is the slava ukraini warmonger narrative more important to you than your own rights
Russia threatened us with nukes and made our natural resource prices much more expensive. It's only natural that I wish for Russians to die and support the nation fighting against Russia.
Besides, Russia has been trying to destabilize our countries for decades now while Ukraine never did anything but peacefully exist.

>>14981787
>Not in Germany at least.
They did it specifically in Germany. Why are you a lying, fascist bootlicker?

>>14981777
Sounds like they were right last time. Maybe you should listen to them this time and stop warmongering.

>>14981787
>made our natural resource prices much more expensive
America blew up your pipeline. What are you going to do about it, cuck?

>>14981790
>They did it specifically in Germany.
Post proof then. And please not some telegram post of jewish vampire lizards probing your anuses.
>>14981791
All Russians, no, all life forms contained within Russian borders deserve to die.
Therefore I support Ukraine, a nation that is efficently murdering hundreds of thousends of Russians and is publicly humiliating Russia alongside its bald manlet loser of a president.

>>14981796
>All Russians, no, all life forms contained within Russian borders deserve to die.
Meds.

>>14981793
Why would the US blow up all but one Nordstream 2 pipeline? It was obviously Russia that did it.
>inb4 the US missed one
That kind of argument won't even convince a Pakistani.

>>14981798
The only medicine capable of solving the Russian problem once and for all is cyanide.

>>14981796
>All Russians, no, all life forms contained within Russian borders deserve to die.
Spoken like a typical piece of fascistic slime lashing out at external boogeymen while his criminal leaders undermine his rights and interests.

>>14981819
One of my interests is that Russians die. Therefore, my leaders are doing a great job in that regard.

>>14980604
>NATO is, by definition, a defensive alliance
please define a "defensive alliance" and prove that NATO satisfies the definition

>>14980627
>> First Chechen War 11 December 1994 – 31 August 1996
provoked by jihadists trained by CIA
>> Russo-Georgian War Aug 1, 2008 – Aug 12, 2008
provoked by jihadists trained by CIA
>> Second Chechen War Aug 7, 1999 – Apr 16, 2009
provoked by jihadists trained by CIA
>> Chinese genocide of Uyghurs, 2014-present
provoked by jihadists trained by CIA

tell me when you have some actual aggression and not shill propaganda

>>14981862
>muh CIA

>>14979226
where do you live? it's insanely, and unbelievably, cold in most of europe during the winter, which explains why europe would do this. although many people think the cold isn't so bad.

>>14981862
This. The collapse of the Soviet Union was itself largely thanks to their debacle in Afghanistan, provoked by jihadists trained by CIA. lol. The modus operandi remained the same.

>>14981834
Why is murdering innocents more important to you than your own rights and economy? :^(

>>14980541
>Russia-China worldwide domination
They neither have the demographics nor man power. Several African countries could hold them at bay.

>>14981880
there is another goal of the jihad besides destabilization of eurasia though. the mass migration that it causes brings tons of muslims into central europe. european muslim men are the future soldiers in the upcoming war against eurasia.

>>14981887
>innocents
No Russian is innocent. 3/4 of Russians support the war, therefore they deserve everything bad coming their way.
>own rights
How are my rights being infringed? Unlike Russia, I'd theoretically could be a white nationalist without being thrown into a gulag.
>economy
Is this meme still going? Germany had another growth in GDP (inflation-adjusted) this quarter. It's Russia's economy that is in the tatters :)

>>14981921
The sheer degree of your mental illness...

>>14981924
...exhibited by Russians!

>>14981921
but you also support the war

>>14981926
>losing your mind so hard you can't even write a congruent response anymore
Your violent bootlicker nature is showing again, not that I mind. Germany should just be itself: a nation of fascistic warmongers following the fuhrer off a cliff. You the German equivalent of the vatnigger boogeyman.

>>14981930
I support Russians getting the fuck out of Ukraine as they should. If Jewtin decided today that enough is enough, he could pull all Russian troops out of Ukraine and the war would be instantly over.
You guys are like white niggers who invade a house and complain about the neighbourhood association shooting at them.

>>14981936
>I support Russians getting the fuck out of Ukraine as they should
They were about to, but your NATO handlers intervened to make sure it doesn't happen.

>>14981934
Russian retards follow a bald dwarf who is telling them about secret biolabs and nazis. Russia's economy will go down the shitters and then China will come in to buy up all that's left.

>>14981939
>They were about to
No. They could leave TODAY and the war would be over in an instant.
>NATO handlers intervened to make sure it doesn't happen.
How so? All NATO is doing is supplying Ukraine with weaponry, intel, training and strategy. All that wouldn't be needed any longer once Russia fucks off from Ukraine.

>>14981940
>Russian retards follow a bald dwarf who is telling them about secret biolabs and nazis
I don't even know that that's true. They don't have much of a choice at this point. You, on the other hand, being the brainwashed nigger that you are, defend fascism and engage in warmongering out of choice.

>>14981936
>If Jewtin decided today that enough is enough, he could pull all Russian troops out of Ukraine and the war would be instantly over.
same is true for zelensky and biden

>>14981947
>They don't have much of a choice at this point.
Russians have the choice to leave Ukraine and go back to being miserable in their own countries.
>engage in warmongering
Russia is the one attacking Ukraine.
>>14981948
If Zelensky surrendered, Russians would take over Ukraine, rape, loot and kill anyone they see like they did everywhere else where they had control.
Ukraine rejects that barbarism and wants freedom from your shitty ass nation, therefore it is fighting. Death to Russia!

>>14981945
>No
Yes. Ukraine and Russia had negotiated a deal where Russia would withdraw, Ukraine would give up its plants to joint NATO, and Ukraine would get assurances backed by some third parties that Russia won't mess with it. Your NATO handlers torpedoed that deal, promising Zelensky that Putin will fall in two more weeks.

>>14981954
"People" like you are genuinely not fully human.

>>14981959
>Ukraine and Russia had negotiated a deal where Russia would withdraw, Ukraine would give up its plants to joint NATO, and Ukraine would get assurances backed by some third parties that Russia won't mess with it
Ukraine proposed that and Russia told them they still want to take away parts of their country. Ukraine obviously didn't want to have their land stolen so they told Russia to fuck off.
And now that Russia has lost Kherson, it's looking more and more like Russians will be successfully driven out of Ukraine, even in Crimea.
>>14981963
Russians are not even human. They are sad, soulless shells wallowing in misery.

>>14981801
>Why would the US blow up all but one Nordstream 2 pipeline? It was obviously Russia that did it.
Why would the Russians blow up their own pipeline? You're retarded.

>>14981966
Those pipelines were useless now and it was a good way to threaten Europe and increases gas prices again, retard.

>>14981965
You will never be fully human. You will always be the German equivalent of the vatnigger boogeyman.

>>14981945
NATO is an aggressive terrorist organization that doesn't respect the international law. every country has the right to be concerned by the presence of NATO at their borders. Russia's requests for guarantees of safety (such as Ukraine remaining neutral and demilitarized) are completely legitimate.

>>14981971
You can't be serious.

>>14981972
Says the Russian loser. Enjoy your pathetic existence in the dying nation (once superpower) called Russia.
>>14981976
>Russia's requests for guarantees of safety (such as Ukraine remaining neutral and demilitarized) are completely legitimate.
>demilitarized
Fuck off you retard. Russians are rapist thieves who would attack Ukraine again if it demilitarizes. Besides, Ukraine isn't even in NATO you collosal homosexual.
>>14981977
Once Russia is completely defeated, you guys will be too embarassed ot even post on 4chan anymore.

>>14981980
>Fuck off you retard. Russians are rapist thieves who would attack Ukraine again if it demilitarizes. Besides, Ukraine isn't even in NATO you collosal homosexual.
That doesn't contradict anything I've said. Do you have an actual argument?

>>14981980
I'm not Russian, bootlicking German vatnigger. You will never be human.

>>14981980
>Once Russia is completely defeated, you guys will be too embarassed ot even post on 4chan anymore.
Your anti-European ideology is on the decline, and in the near future people who express it will be beaten in the streets by jeering mobs.

>>14981988
Don't spoil it for him. He actually believes Germans are happy with the anti-German policies of his handlers, all while the new gestapo is out beating protesters and arresting people for online comments against the government.

>>14981980
>Russians are rapist thieves who would attack Ukraine
why do you think so? is this assumption based on anything?

>>14982002
They said that Putin bad and Russia bad on the news.

>>14979226
Do you put gasoline in a furnace or what?

>>14982033
This winter they're gonna be burning kikes again.

>>14982002
Imagine spending your free time simping for a hostile foreign nation on the internet just because you're a seething incel and you want to "own the libs". Would you really sell out your nation and your family to a right-wing dictatorship just for some cheap laughs on the internet?

>>14982062
Imagine being a deranged warmonger who wishes death on Russians directly and on Ukranians indirectly because the TV told you what to think about the current thing.

>>14982062
>Would you really sell out your nation and your family to a right-wing dictatorship just for some cheap laughs on the internet?
You have a nation?

>>14982072
The more dead Russians the better. It's just like with Nazis. You're the type of person who would have been against US intervention in WW2. What you obviously don't understand is that evil never prevails on its own. It always needs bystanders. Whenever authoritarians and dictators have prevailed throughout history, there were always bystanders who could have done something, but looked on with apathy instead. Conversely, whenever justice, freedom, and equality have prevailed, it has always been because good men and women answered the call and stood up against evil.

>>14982096
Follow your fuhrer to oblivion. The Nazis came from your intellectual and political traditions, not from Russia.

>>14982062
Actually I just want to hear arguments. Why do you think Russia would attack Ukraine if it was demilitarized?

>>14982102
Because those filthy right-wing Slavs are competing with us good left-wing National Socialiosts over lebensraum. :^)

>>14982102
>Why do you think Russia would attack Ukraine if it was demilitarized?

Are you retarded? How am I supposed to explain the behavior of a deranged dictator and a certified madman? Putin is insane, so I don't know why he does what he does, and neither does he.

>>14982114
He's not asking you to explain Putin. He's asking you to explain your own deranged behaviors and opinions. Quite predictably, you can't. lol

>>14982114
What did he do that you consider him to be a madman?

>>14982118
The absolute madman started the completely unpredictable and unthinkable invasion of Ukraine. No one could have foresee this, except for the countless US analysts warning against NATO policies since at least 2014. lol

>>14982115
I already explained why I believe what I believe. I support America, I support democracy, and I support a rules-based global order. You can't just go around putting gay people in jail because you think they're gross, and you can't just invade other countries because you don't like their politics. Putin has done both of those things. I always hear republicans talking about muh "freedom" and how they love "freedom" and hate tyranny. If that's really the case, then how come all of you guys support Russia? Is Russia a free country for its gay community? Is Russia spreading freedom in Ukraine? Is invading sovereign nations supporting freedom and fighting tyranny?

>>14982124
a>>14982130
>you can't just invade other countries because you don't like their politics
I agree. I suggest we focus on the most dangerous invader and that is the USA. What should we do about it?

>>14982130
>I support America, I support democracy, and I support a rules-based global order
You love the world's biggest warmonger and you support a globohomo soft dictatorship. That goes without saying and explains the real reasons for your deranged rambling, but that's not what was asked. He asked you why you think Russia is going to attack Ukraine again if it simply stays out of NATO.

>>14982144
Fuck Russia.
Fuck incels.
Fuck Putin.
Fuck Trump.
Fuck nazis.
Fuck racism.
Fuck antivaxxers.

You're a fucking incel and this conversation isn't going anywhere so this is my last reply. Don't respond to my post because I'm not going to read it.

>FUCK THE BOOGEYMEN!!
>I HATE THE BOOGEYMEN!!!
>BOOGEYMEN BAD!!!
>ALL THE BOOGEYMAN MAKE ME SO HECKIN' ANGRY!!
Where is all this trash even coming from? This is straight out of FB.

>>14982156
>He gives up when he cannot explain why "Pootin is le madman"
every fucking time

>>14982171
Fuck you, incel. Fuck you! You're a Nazi and when we finish killing every single Russian we're gonna come for you and finish you off as well. You're a fucking virgin.

>>14982176
>t. sane person

>>14982180
Stop replying to me. I'm not reading your posts anymore, you fucking chud. You will burn along with your right-wing leaders. Putin lost. Trump lost. It's fucking over and we're coming for you.

>Fuck Russia.
>Fuck incels.
>Fuck Putin.
>Fuck Trump.
>Fuck nazis.
>Fuck racism.
>Fuck antivaxxers.

>>14982187
>I'm not reading your posts anymore

>>14982189
>>Fuck Russia.
>>Fuck incels.
>>Fuck Putin.
>>Fuck Trump.
>>Fuck nazis.
>>Fuck racism.
>>Fuck antivaxxers.
That pretty much covers everyone in the entire world. Easier to just say "FTW" KEK

>>14982189
>>14982192
What the fuck is wrong with you fucking right-wingers? Why don't you understand that Russians need to be exterminated before their insane dictator destroys Europe? Putin literally puts gays in prison.

>>14982199
>I'm not reading your posts anymore

>>14982197
Most of the world is progressive, you fucking retard. It's literally just Russia and a handful of right-wing chuds still clinging to racism and anti-science sentiments.

>>14982199
>Putin literally puts gays in prison.
not my problem

>>14982206
This attitude is why the holocaust happened. You are on the wrong side of history and you're going to get exterminated for this.

>>14982199
>Putin literally puts gays in prison.
For what crime though

>>14982213
Just because they're gay. Putin has spies and snitches. They're everywhere. They're reporting the gays to the government.

>>14982204
>>14982204
>Most of the world is progressive
>Progressive = Nazi = socialist
>I'm not too bright. I love what I claim to hate.

Seriously? You cannot be that stupid and naive. LMAO!

>>14982217
Give source

>>14982199
>Putin literally puts gays in prison.
>>14982217
>They're reporting the gays to the government.
Based Putin may not be so bad afterall.

>>14981693
Forecasted deviation from the average.

>>14982208
>YOU ARE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY
>YOU'RE GOING TO GET EXTERMINATED FOR THIS.
so what is the right side? grooming kids? destroy small business? forcing unstandard vaccine? warmongering?

>>14982220
>>14982222
>>14982224
Russian trolls get out. 4chan stands with Ukraine. You people are fucking insane and need to be exterminated along with the rest of the Russians.

>>14982224
>so what is the right side? grooming kids? destroy small business? forcing unstandard vaccine? warmongering?
Yess yessssss!

>>14982228
Can you provide an instance of Putin putting a gay in prison just for being gay?

>4CHAN STANDS WITH UKRAINE.

>>14982232
Wow. Your ignorance knows no bounds.

>>14982228
>4chan stands with Ukraine.
Uhhhh no.
Fuck Ukraine.
Fuck Russia.
Fuck you and your ilk laundering money in Ukraine via FTX and 10% for the big guys.

>>14982232
Pussy Riot. Not gay, but they were feminist activists who have been arrested like a dozen times for peaceful protests of Putin and the Kremlin.

>>14982244
>feminist activists
worthless breathers.

>>14982233
kek

>>14982244
>it doen't support my claims but they arrested muh heckin' deranged feminist "activitsts" for dindu-protesting and that counts for something!
No, it doens't.

>>14980483
This but unironically

>>14982244
gays woman and troons are not the most important thing in this world.
grow up freakboi

>>14980545
>I guess we should just let Ukranians get invaded
Yes, that's right.

>>14982199
Right wingers =/= right wing dissidents and 5th column Russian expats

>>14982511
Why would we do that when it's so fun to watch you loose and seethe?

>>14980483
What’s funny is it’s already too late.
All the pieces necessary for Ukrainians to survive and possibly win are already there.

>just let Ukraine be invaded
Is already in affect.
NATOs plan was to let them be invaded, maybe fund gorilla war shit afterwards.
Russia has just fumbled the ball so badly, that even with NATO letting the Ukrainians do the fighting, Russia is on the backfoot.

You’re screeching at westerners to do what exactly?
They’ve already let Ukraine be invaded.
What’s your next demand?
No satellite networks allowed to gather Intel, just because?
Lmao.
Russia just sucks.

>take away their gas supply because you incited an imperialist proxy war
>noooo you can't just burn trees to stay warm!
What exactly are they supposed to do? I'd rather they didn't burn le trees but wtf am I going to do about it?

>>14979226
>How can we stop Europe from burning its forests for no good reason?
Who gives a shit?

Fuck those faggot leftists. Trump tried to warn them.
But they laughed at him.
Who's laughing now?! KEK!

>>14980497
>retard doesn't get the CIA controls FSB as well.

>>14981636
I didn't say I participated. Anyway you are probably talking about foreign 5th columnists who try to protest here. This has always been illegal, you have no right to protest in our nations at all. Imagine literally crying because we aren't supporting your invasion of an independent nation holy shit.

>The vatnik cries out in pain as he strikes at you.

>>14981771
The antivax movement was a very obvious Russian/CCP psyops to dismantle the conservative right wing unity in the West while hoping to kill as many white people with the Chinese bioweapon as possible. It never had strong support from traditional conservatives who support authoritarianism is the name of the greater good as we said from the start. The only "right wing dissidents" that stayed with the movement were foreigners and useful idiot traitors.

>>14982988
>anyone who criticizes my fuhrer is a heckin' [insert reich's enemy] traitor and has no right to protest
Thanks for confirming your nazi derangement.

>>14982990
>anyone who opposes my heckin' corporate mystery juice injections is a traitor!!
Again, your fascist derangement is plain for all to see. Maybe Putin should start denazifying the West. :^)

>>14982994
>>14982998
Yes.

>>14983008
Fair enough. You and your assbuddies should just be honest, then, about your fascism. Drop your jewish screeching about freedumbs and democracy. You are a warlike ape looking for a boot to lick.

>>14983012
What does "facism" mean in your eyes? Defending our own interests? Yes, then literally everyone sane is a facist.

>>14983031
Depopulation isn't really in your interest, unless you're... You know.

>>14983031
Well, let's see: you're brainwashed by the state, you're a warmonger, you're obsessed with external boogeymen, you attribute protest and dissent to the machinations of the designated boogeymen, you (simultaneously!) deny and defend your new gestapo beating and arresting people for dissent, you worship an unholy alliance of corrupt politicians and corporations. The only thing you lack to be a honest-to-goodness fascist is reverence for your people's history and traditions, which is incidentally the only redeeming thing about fascism. In other words, you're a fascist without the dignity. You're the globohobo corporate ersatz version.

>>14982706
Yes, it's worse than embarrassing for them. The Russo-Sinos spent the last 2 decades lying about everything from their GDP growth to technological capabilities in a half assed attempt at reviving communist era subversion. Now we are seeing the pathetic display of Russia's armed forces lose to some Hohols with tractors and Elon's dail up tier wifi. Not only is their display pathetic, but we have since found out they use CIVILIAN Japanese lenses in their drones, old German engines in their vehicles, American, British and Taiwanese chips designed for training poor African IT students in their missiles. The Chinks are worse, they had to cancel submarine deals because they lost access to German engines. They had to borrow Russian planes for their airshow chimpout around Taiwan. Their tech industry is imploding without access to chips. It turns out the hypersonics are just conventional missiles without any proven maneuverability at all so carriers are more effective at countering them than a literal fucking WW1 Battleship shell.

The real kicker is that because Westerners were naive enough to believe their propoganda we actually built all the things they were lying about having. Now there is a massive power asymmetry several orders bigger than the cold war and an even bigger problem because they've shown their hand and there's no reason not to just nuke/annex them other than our moral high horse, hence the light sanctions to which China already cracked and betrayed Russia (again) over.

Meanwhile the closest thing to the Egalitarianism these dictators and their puppets claim to be fighting for is found only in low gini coefficient Western countries. I look forward to liberating them and making them and finally giving them fair wages to make them just as rich as Westerners.

>>14983040
>unholy alliance of corrupt politicians and corporations
This doesn't seem very "fascist" of us. You realise that mercantilism was literally why Nazis though Brits were corrupted and why the British Empire needed to be dismantled? Sounds like you are saying we are still the Allies from WW2 who won the war against the Nazis and saved Russian ingrates at the same time.

Every other thing you said is literally
>waah let me into your country so I can subvert and protest against you!

>>14983057
Deranged.

>>14983061
>This doesn't seem very "fascist" of us
It's textbook fascism. At least you're not denying or arguing about anything else. Either way, there is no discussion to be had with your likes. You buttbuddies just need to stop pretending it's about muh freedumbs and democracy and you should be lynched on the streets.

>>14983063

>>14983064
You guys like facism though. Dugin was a neo-nazi in his youth. Wagner is born from Nazi LARPers. Calling us facist is a compliment saying we are what you desparately want to be.

>>14983070
Why are you talking to imaginary boogeymen again? I don't know what to tell you. It's legitimately concerning how many violent, brainwashable apes still exist in modern society, how easy it is to drum up their onga bonga tribal warfare instincts, and how they can be made to go along with any kind of self-destruction so long as it's framed as undermining the enemy tribe.

>>14983076
>imaginary boogeymen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Group
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Dugin

Not posting for you. Posting for normal people reading this.

>>14983076
>self-destruction so long as it's framed as undermining the enemy tribe.

Yeah bro. This totally isn't relevant to the tribe you're defending invading Ukraine or anything.

We are now starting to see how weak and violent your tribe really is. There's gonna be destruction and it will be very one-sided.

>>14983082
Your psychotic episode is so severe you can't even grasp basic english anymore. You're not "normal".

>>14983085
I'm not defending anyone, tribal nigger ape. Why are you talking to imaginary boogeymen again? It's like you're trying to make my point for me.

>>14983086
> 1980, Dugin joined the "Yuzhinsky circle [ru]", an avant-garde dissident group which dabbled in Satanism, esoteric Nazism and other forms of the occult.[29][30][31] In the group, he was known for his embrace of Nazism which he attributes to a rebellion against his Soviet raising, as opposed to genuine sympathy for Hitler.[32] He adopted an alter ego with the name of "Hans Sievers", a reference to Wolfram Sievers, a Nazi researcher of the paranormal.[33]

>While the Wagner Group itself is not ideologically driven,[53][54] various elements of Wagner have been linked to neo-Nazis and far-right extremists.[1][55][56]
>In 2021, the Foreign Policy report noted the origin of the name "Wagner" to be unknown.[52] Others say the group's name comes from Utkin's own call sign "Wagner", reportedly after the German composer Richard Wagner, which he is said to have chosen due to his passion for the Third Reich (Wagner being Adolf Hitler's favorite composer).[75][76] As such, some believe he is a neo-Nazi,[77][78] with The Economist reporting that Utkin has several Nazi tattoos.[76]

>>14983089
Okay. Now take your meds and realize your psychotic reactions are completely incongruent with anything I actually said. lol. It's really funny how your derangement causes you to flip-flop between propping up Russia as some major threat and (correctly) pointing out that it can't even subdue third world ukroniggers.

>>14983093
Keep replying, keep seething.

Russians protestors are a threat, as are subversive vatnik agents brainwashed by RT. Luckily our governments are finally awake of this. Your tribalistic demand that we allow expat scum to protest against our interests should therefore be met with hostility.

>>14983102
>Russians protestors are a threat
The protestors your gestapo are beating as "Russian" the same way I'm "Russian": that is, none at all. You're delusional and lashing out against imaginary traitors, like any fascist.

>>14983104
>Now that I am caught out I am no longer a tribe, there is no "us and them" I swear!

None of us are buying it anymore Ivan, sorry. You can leave Russia and come to the prosperous West like the rest of youth did, but shut the fuck up when you get here unless you have something postive to say about Ukranian victims.

>>14983109
>None of us are buying it
"Us" being who, the psychotic corporate drones who go around screeching slava ukraini? You think I'm trying to convince you? There is no discussion to be had with you. When the time comes, you and your handlers will be beaten into a bloody paste.

>>14983119
>"Us" being who,
Individuals who know how to read gini coefficient and hdi data and can therefore cut through all the bullshit,

>When the time comes, you and your handlers will be beaten into a bloody paste.
Try beating a bunch hohol farmers first you pathetic worm.

>>14983125
>Individuals who know how to read gini coefficient
Reading the gini coefficient makes you into this: >>14983040?

>Try beating a bunch hohol farmers
Why are you talking to imaginary boogeymen again? I don't care about ukroniggers and I'm not going to be the one beating you into a paste. Your own countrymen will do that, because they know exactly to whom to attribute their rapidly decreasing quality of life.

>>14983130
>because they know exactly to whom to attribute their rapidly decreasing quality of life.
Yes, Putin pushing browns into our borders. It's all out in the open now.

>>14983137
>Putin pushing browns into our borders
Yes, it's Putin actively importing hordes of brownoids into your country... This is tiresome. You are legit mentally ill. There's no need to even comment on what you say. Anyone with a modicum of sanity can see the derangement.

>>14983143
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021%E2%80%932022_Belarus%E2%80%93European_Union_border_crisis

I sometimes wonder if people like you lie for so long that you become genuinely ignorant of the facts.

Again posting mostly for normal people to read, I know you won't bother.

>>14983147
>heckin' putin makes us import the entire middle east!
>heckin' putin makes our cops beat people who protest against it!
>heckin' putin makes our gestapo arrest people who post against it online!
This is what profound mental illness looks like.

>>14983149
Those protestors are Russians, retard.

i don't respect putin but in this case he is doing what every country leader supposed to do.
he doesn't want NATO forces in his borders, US will do the same even worse if they was in this situation

>>14983187
Kill yourself fucking vatnigger. I want you and other Russian traitors out of my fucking country.

>>14983149
>heckin' putin makes us import the entire middle east!
Yes. We have proof of this. So what's your problem?
>heckin' putin makes our cops beat people who protest against it!
>heckin' putin makes our gestapo arrest people who post against it online!
Do you have any proof that our cops beat peaceful legal protestors or arrest us for making online comments? I regularly say I don't want browns in our countries both in real life and on the internet and have never been arrested. In fact my friends who are cops largely agree with me.

>>14983187
>he doesn't want NATO forces in his borders,
NATO doesn't want Russian forces in our borders.

Russia, being a weak second world nation nation, should not haughtily be trying to make pathetic demands about where we can place military bases INSIDE OUR OWN BORDERS.

>>14983208
if you are truly ukrainian, go protest and take down your psychotic government, this is your responsibility.
zelensky is in the bunker laughing at you hard, making billions, he could end this by simply reject NATO, countless lives could have been saved by now

>>14983214
Just give me a full list of things your government does, that is somehow Putin's fault. I just wanna see how deep your deranged Russomania goes. Everything that's wrong with your country is Putin's fault, isn't it? Especially when it's explicitly conducted by your fascist handlers. Textbook case. :^)

>>14983226
if you are truly russian, go protest and take down your psychotic government, this is your responsibility.
putin is in the bunker laughing at you hard, making billions, he could end this by simply reject CCP, countless lives could have been saved by now

>>14983230
>Everything that's wrong with your country is Putin's fault, isn't it?
Yes, the CCP also. Everything wrong in Russian and China is also Putin and the CCP's fault.

Literally all they have to do is to pay people more and grow their domestic consumer economy to assimilate into the most peaceful and prosperous world order in human history.

>>14983214
>NATO doesn't want Russian forces in our borders.
when russia trying to move forces into europe? stop making shit up this is nonsense, NATO and US are the aggressive entities in this mess, they intentionally provoke russia they knew exactly what the outcome will be.

>>14983232
im not russian and putin is not in the bunker, you are suffer because your government is playing by NATO/US interests

>>14983239
when NATO trying to move forces into Russia? stop making shit up this is nonsense, Russia and China are the aggressive entities in this mess, they intentionally provoke Ukraine they knew exactly what the outcome will be.

Seriously though, you do realise that there is literally an invader and a defender in this scenario right? Or are you that deranged that you can't even admit that?

>>14983244
>you are suffer
I don't suffer vatnik. I live in one of the highest HDI nations on the planet with the most equally wealth equally distributed wealth.

Don't project your sufferings under oil oligarchs unto us. Our lives are very good.

>>14983247
>when NATO trying to move forces into Russia?
right now, by annexing ukraine

>>14983236
>Yes, the CCP also
Okay, but can you give me a list of things your government did that are actually Putin's fault? Putin made your government into diversity zealots, Putin made your government beat anti-immigration protesters, Putin made your government arrest anti-immigration commenters. What else did Putin do to you?

>>14983250
ukraine is the most corrupt country in europe

>>14983256
My government has never called me a Nazi. You did. Putin did. CCP funded NGOs did.

It's all good, my people are awake now. You tried to destroy us, now we will destroy you. All's fair.

>>14983261
Nope, second only to Russia though:

https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/corruption-index?continent=europe

>>14983267
>My government has never called me a Nazi.
Probably because you actually support importing African and the Middle East, which is consistent with your support for globohomo warmongering.

>>14983276
russia is not europe.
and i already said that i don't respect putin or his state policy, but right now he is doing the right thing for his country

>>14983278
Did you know that Chechens get a special pension several times higher than tax paying Russians are entitled to?

>>14983289
>russia is not europe.
It is, Dugin.

>>14983293
is that your argument?
if that all you left with you lost, good luck with your shit country getting ruined because you people are too scared to face against your government

>>14983300
>is that your argument?
The formal definition of Europe.
>The prevalent definition of Europe as a geographical term has been in use since the mid-19th century. Europe is taken to be bounded by large bodies of water to the north, west and south; Europe's limits to the east and north-east are usually taken to be the Ural Mountains, the Ural River and the Caspian Sea; to the south-east, the Caucasus Mountains, the Black Sea and the waterways connecting the Black Sea to the Mediterranean Sea.[27]

>>14983292
>My government has never called me a Nazi.
Probably because you actually support importing African and the Middle East, which is consistent with your support for globohomo warmongering.

>>14983302
>raping the semantics because he lost the discussion
bot

>>14983214
>NATO doesn't want Russian forces in our borders
how about NATO doesnt accept russia's neighbors into the alliance LMFAO

>>14983247
NATO forces at Russia's borders is an immediate threat to Russia. NATO is an aggressive alliance which doesn't respect the international law. Every country bordering a NATO member has the right to be very concerned and to demand guarantees of safety.

>>14979226
>burning trees for keeping warm
we've been doing it for a good few thousands of years now, you demented autist. no go tend to your transsexuals and co

>>14980866
Solar? Are you fucking retarded? Do you know how fucking north Europe is?

>>14983498
The current population of Europe is much higher than a thousand years ago.

>>14983598
So what? Did you know that European deforestation peaked during the Bronze age already when the population was even lower? We've reforested and obviously we use most of our woodland for commercial purposes. Our ancestors knew all these things about renewable resources, ecological health, topsoil preservation, crop rotation etc. They are literally all medieval ideas.

>>14982242
>Fuck Ukraine.
>Fuck Russia.
>Fuck you and your ilk laundering money in Ukraine via FTX and 10% for the big guys.
based

>>14983057
>Elon's dail up tier wifi.
Starlink is not dial up tier.
Lol.
There are things you can ding it on, like is it financially viable as a system?
Is Starship really necessary for its success? Or is SpaceX just dragging it’s feet?
Will it pollute the skyline?
etc.

But out of the legitimate complaints one is not slow internet.
Nor is it in a high enough orbit to cause le Kessler syndrome meme.

>>14980736
>Because Europe is not a hypocrite on the environment
But the ancient forests?