/sci/ - Science & Math

>>14971906

SLS gaan today?

>>14971906
We are (not) going!

Holy shit! SLS just tumbled past my house!

>>14971906
didn't some chemical propulsion rocket blow up with a ufo in the background?
https://www.reddit.com/r/TechnologyAndAliens/comments/ypzufg/the_space_war/

Isaac Arthur the YouTuber
Based or cringe?

>>14971933
UH OH STINKY

>>14971933
i used to shit on him a lot, but turned out to be counterproductive

>>14971917
In another timeline where SLS is Starship? Then yes

>>14971917
TODAY?

https://twitter.com/SLDelta45/status/1590336560712384512

>>14971990
I like how it was someone’s job to whip up an image for this lol

>>14971906
So they’re rolling back to the VAB right?

>>14972013
It's too late.

>>14972015
Seriously?

>>14972016
Yep, they had the last chance on Tuesday and now the winds are too strong.
So it would be quite funny if SLS gets damaged.

>>14972016
Uh oh it’s true. Welp. Starliner got fucked by a little rain. Here’s to SLS getting rocked

>>14972016
SLS is in God's hands now

>>14972023
Indra, I pray to you to strike down your lightning upon the abomination known as SLS

>>14972025
Zeus here, should've asked me, now I'm not gonna.

>>14972033
gtfo you nonce

>>14972033
lightning is SO kino

>>14972039
pedo satanist drawing

https://twitter.com/SpaceNews_Inc/status/1590389348113199104

>>14972066
https://spacenews.com/china-scraps-expendable-long-march-9-rocket-plan-in-favor-of-reusable-version/

>>14972066
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phC4JevVr2k

time to fire up 15 engines on the booster. you know you want it

>>14972071

>>14972075

>>14972075
>methane AND kerosene
as the other anon pointed out with the engines before. just throwing lots of money at the wall and see what sticks. i kinda like it

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1590394239170404352

>>14972071
So theyre scrapping the original version, building a reusable first stage starship long march 9 that runs on kerosene that flies in 2030, then 5 years later launching a methane version of that? wtf is the point of starting with kerosene

>>14972080
alright SöyGoySpace

>>14972080
fucking NASA

>>14972081
probably building them in parallel. r&d cost is simply not a concern to the chinese government

>>14972085
money is not the issue. management is

it kinda looks like sea dragon, minus the single behemoth engine

>>14972080
Elon is personally dragging NASA back to space

>>14971804
>The Flat Earth Institute of Sciece
The state of /sci/ and /sfg/. Lol, lmao even.
>>14971898
No but you see it's all a hologram. See? If I make shit up to say any observation is false, then I will always be correct, this is the real science they are hiding from you sheeple.

>>14972103
flat earth lives rent free in your head

what the fuck sfg bros, you didnt tell me Uganda is a spacefaring nation now???

>>14972080
wait but twitter told me musk was a fraud
I wish people would stop thinking of Musk as a genius engineer and instead look at him as a administrator and praise him for his actual accomplishments. Yes, he wasn't the one who made the rockets, but he was the one who made these rockets possible in the corporate/political angle.

>>14972115
twitter lives rent free in your head

>>14972118
this is a very twitter phrase of yours

>>14972113
Superpower by 2030
What rocket though? I presume they bought a flight with somebody, rather than make an entire rocket in-house.

>>14972113
even uganda mogs bezos lmao

>>14972071
>>14972066
>10-meter diamter
oh shit oh fuck

PearlAfricaSat-1 was partially designed by three Ugandan college students, but was built by the Japanese btw. Went up on Cygnus couple days ago.

>>14972122
Kek

>>14972113
>>14972121
>>14972122
They didnt launch it themselves, obviously. not sure where the picture is from lmao

>>14972122
Everybody in Uganda knows kung fu

>>14972141
>>14972136
https://tfiglobalnews.com/2022/11/08/a-proud-day-for-uganda-as-it-is-all-set-to-kiss-the-space/
I want to kiss the space anons

>>14972136
Ugandan idea men. Uganda, the thinking nation

>>14972113
Somewhat impressive to see, I guess Uganda-wanna see it.

Your mirror is coming

New Susanna renders

>>14972162

>>14972163

>>14972066
>>14972071
Holy based. I guess the real question is:
is this long lehao trying to be traditional and old school, and a bunch of younger engineers see the writing on the wall and the design is just in limbo? Or is lehao trying to spearhead a starship type vehicle. I wonder how much authority he has. He’s getting quite old and probably won’t be kicking it anymore in the 30s-40s

>>14972165
I really like this design. Too bad it won't come before the next 2030.

>>14972167
You know I made fun of this at first but it’s not the worst idea. Around a year ago berger was saying how they need to do something other than a capsule when they announced they wanted to do human space flight in-house
It’s not a starship but it’s a start

https://twitter.com/JWSTObservation/status/1590392080710488065
>I am now observing TRAPPIST-1 using NIRSpec Bright Object Time Series for 3 hours and 28 minutes. Keywords: Exoplanets.
The observations keep accumulating.

>>14972167
love the patina aesthetic that starship has pioneered

https://spacenews.com/viasat-3s-falcon-heavy-launch-slips-into-early-2023/

Another Falcon Heavy slips to Q1/Q2 2023 due Boeing's sat unit not able to deliver on time

>>14972232
Should just pack some Starlinks and launch anyway. What's Boeing going to do? Find another launch provider? Hahahahaha.

THICC

>>14972115
Stop confusing SpaceX and Musk. He’s making an absolute ass of himself literally selling more than twice the yearly budget of SLS to save Twitter because he fucked up and can’t manage it. Should be clear to you that Shotwell is the real boss at SpaceX.

>>14972182
People will be working on it, but there's not much point publishing a partially completed program.

>>14972262
retard

>>14972262
Germany could build Starship in two weeks by the way.

>>14972273
Responding to?

>>14972277
They can't, all nazis are gone.

>>14972280
irrelevant shite. twitterfags need banned

It's been almost a decade and no one has managed to copy Falcon 9 yet.
Let that sink in.

>>14972262
Too much lefty pill turns you into a green haired goblin

>>14972284
Yup. Neutron will be the first rocket to match it and that's multiple years out, after Starship.

>>14972284
It's not that easy in rocketry.

>>14972284

>>14972284
Musk started the reusability campaign for Falcon at almost the exact same time every other rocket “locked in” their design for the next generation of rockets. This left ULA, ESA, POCKOCMOC etc. with expendable rockets while F9s crashing in the water were being laughed at. Now it’s too late. Everyone has sunk too much money in upcoming rockets and the jump to something like SS is simply too big without first doing it on a smaller scale

>>14972268
>>14972286
>Musk dick riders still exist while he’s making an absolute retard of himself with his autism

This troll feeds on tranny pills

>>14972307
No he's just a stupid person addicted to social media thus destroying what was left of his critical thinking ability. Many such cases.

>>14972304
Nobody gives a shit about autism.

Holy fuck why is NASA leaving SLS out like that?

>>14972338
If they roll out, their last roll out happens, which means delay of potentially 3+ months

Falcon 9 has never been known to handle high winds well.

>>14972341
it's used to worse loads during high sea and presumably octograbber is engaged.

>>14972343
Nope, it's just on its legs.

>>14972340
If Starship beats SLS, SLS is finished. If SLS is damaged on pad during hurricane, its finished as well

So they have nothing to lose

>>14972350
The only thing starship is trying to beat is old age

>>14972352
refer to this >>14972284

Did some research and apparently Artemis 1 is certified for only one more rollout. So if it rolls out again NASA will have to do more inspections and maybe even ground it

>>14972341
it's not even close to shore. the SLS is finished

Potential 2nd tower/olm in preps @ Starbase

>>14972382
yes we've seen it for weeks. unlikely to be an OLM

>>14972367
Or they'll just do like they did with the SRBs and declare it to be just fine, nothing to see here, move along.

>>14972382

>>14972386
Mate, they’re really asking for Challenger 2 here aren’t they? I’d hate to be NASA right now because if Artemis 1 is unable to fly, it’s over for SLS, and if Artemis 1 does fly and it explodes, it’s also over for SLS

>>14972284
The rest of the space industry tried every trick in the book to shut it all down and keep expendable rockets for maximum profits, from convincing congress and NASA to push against re-usability and underfunding the initial commercial programs to using the media to spin negative PR campaigns and falsified financial studies.

It has been the most pathetic and desperate decade for the legacy space industry and I wish nothing but death and financial ruin for them.

>>14972338
SLS is not ready to launch in November. They are only doing these "attempts" for show and were always going to cancel. It would be very convenient if the storm can somehow be blamed for further delays.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRh51-LGr7w

Old bit insight on SpaceX from Peter Thiel

>>14972411
>Peter Thiel
sneed

>>14972411
Peter Thiel is unfathomably based. Without him there would be no SpaceX

>>14972404

>>14972394
Remember when Tory Bruno said it would take 10 flights for reusability to break even? And then Elon went and said it only took 3 flights? Lol

>>14972103
>>14972109
>>14971902
>they still dont get it

>NASA refused to give specifics on gusts during the IAN press release, but said SLS would be fine at "much higher" gusts

I'm conflicted. I wanted it to explode on launch. This could be an easy way out if they were to call loss of vehicle even without major damage.

this thing goes 10,000 miles an hour, of course a strong wind isn't going to hurt it

>>14972435
Same here. The best situation would be it fatally damages the rocket, but not in an immediately obvious way.

https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/1590456779724685313
>Mark your calendars, Electron has a date with Launch Complex 2!
>The window for our 1st mission from U.S. soil opens Dec 7 ET. We’re excited to launch for
@hawkeye360 and bring a new launch capability to the Eastern Shore.

https://twitter.com/JWSTObservation/status/1590451275006705677
https://twitter.com/JWSTObservation/status/1590457415073406981
JWST is looking at Enceladus right now. Can it catch the plumes?

>>14972436
Not through air it doesn't. Especially not sideways.

>>14972113
Uganda and Rwanda are one of the very few african countries that have their shit together

>>14972460
And Botswana?

>>14972115
Except he is more than an administrator. There's plenty of accounts of people who know him saying he makes decisions that require in depth knowledge of engineering all the time, be it cars or rockets.
If you want to see an example of a smart business man running a rocket company with smart engineers look at blue origin

>>14972113
I swear this guy is the one on a webm with sound where he says a bunch of nonsense inspirational quotes and then flops his tongue around going bleableableablea, I never saved it though and can't find it on /wsg/ right now

>>14972466
Also known as Chief Engineer lmao.

>>14972466
plenty of administrators make engineering decisions they know nothing about, which is part of why capitalism is a bit broken right now
Elon seems to know what he's doing though because lots of his stuff seems to work

>>14972472
>which is part of why capitalism is a bit broken right now
imagine being so delusional. the problem you're referring to exclusively stems from value to customer being replaced by value to shareholder via ponzi scheme.

>>14972480
yes that's another part

>>14972469
lmao what the hell

>>14972472
You should forward this issue to the CEO of Capitalism.

BIDEN TALKING ABOUT MUSK RN

>>14972492
I’m telling you guy, Elon needs to cool it or SpaceX will suffer.

>>14972472
>plenty of administrators make engineering decisions they know nothing about, which is part of why capitalism is a bit broken right now
That has nothing to do with capitalism. Look at the Soviet Union kek.
It's just a symptom of the economy doing too well for far too long/being artificially held up. Once a there's down turn in the economy incompetent or useless people will be fired.

>>14972492
Is he crying about Musk? That seems to be the only thing he's capable of

>>14972486
it was a bunch of clips of him recording himself with a phone, in a car and walking around, and he'd say some shit like "it is better to be a man in a garden with a stick... than it is to be a rock in de rain. Ableablehblehbleh."

>>14972492
Why are you lying

>>14972492
Who cares?

>>14972491
I was thinking about just assassinating some people, maybe some car bombs, but now that I've posted this I can't
>>14972495
yeah

>>14972501

>>14972469
>>14972498
>>>/wsg/4822125
I guess you mean this. Tough time nevah lasts

>>14972492
>>14972494
>>14972497
>>14972500
>>14972501
>>14972504
Whence you came, you shall return

China Space promo video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJQQWFRdG6A

https://twitter.com/StephenClark1/status/1590455363840933889

Cygnus failed to deploy their solar array due to debris from their stage separation

>>14972519
reusable rockets don't have this problem

>>14972518
Why is their lander so tiny compared to what NASA makes?
Even Sojourner had a bigger lander. Granted, that was acted as a base station.

Biden just arrested Musk live on CNN!

>https://twitter.com/ElizabethHopk14/status/1590468017468502016
Biden says Elon should be looked into for national security issues

>>14972492
Biden has just said Elon Musk's relationship with foreign powers is "worth looking at"
"How?" asks the press
"There's a lot of ways "

>>14972531
>>14972530
What countries, Ukraine?

>>14972530
>Weather or not he had done anything inappropriate, I'm not suggesting that
>At worst, at worst we're talking about being looked at
What a fucking nothing burger.

>>14972531
>>14972530
Basically the democrat's conspiracy theory against Musk at display

>>14972531
>Just making shit up
Based schizoid

>>14972533
Saudi Arabia
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/03/saudi-twitter-investment-us-national-security-risk

>>14972530
>>14972531
>>14972533
>>14972534
>>14972536
>>14972540
You must go back

>>14972530
Wow, it's nothing.

>>14972530
>>14972531
Racist Biden attacking Africa's most successful businessman...

when's the next SS orbital

>>14972542
>>14972545
>>14972546
Reddit might be more your speed

>>14972530
Biden is 100% right and that makes Musksuckers seethe

>>14972531
Love the Biden cryptic comments. Reminds me of when Biden hinted they're gonna do the gas pipes

>>14972549
Just providing info on political developments that may impact rocketry development. It doesn't occur in a vaccum, as efficient as that would be.

>>14972549
>>14972543
>>14972511
NIGGER

>>14972551
>>14972553
>>14972554
>>14972556
Post it on twitter instead

The samefagging here is unreal

>>14972531
>>14972530
What’s wrong with saying that Elon needs to be careful with what he says?
I am NOT letting starship be sabotaged due to Elon’s lack of filter

>>14972569
Biden needs to be impeached for the better of humanity.

>>14972565
The obvious shilling for current thing on here is unreal. Surprised there wasn't more "remember to go vote today" faggotposts.

>>14972387
When are they gonna install the panels on the tower?

>>14972579
Very soon. They have done the grinding on the lower three layers I believe and the paneling has been spotted on site.

>>14972579
Not yet. It serves no function and thus a waste of time.

Once they get ~10+ landing going, then its worth it.

>>14972584
kek

>>14972585
>It serves no function
According to Snitchnigger it is vital to the survival of components inside the tower during the upcoming many engine static fires.
The truth is bound to lie somewhere in between as always.
It does look like they're actively working on it THOUGH.

>>14972580
Exactly my feelings.
>leave /sfg/ for a while
>some back to a bunch of posts
>almost nothing of value

>>14972595
Always has been

>>14972595
We either need more launches to watch or we need something space-related that's super autistic for us to argue about.

>>14972605

>>14972304
autism is his superpower because it makes him not give a shit what retards like you think

SLSfriends?
>The world’s most powerful rocket – NASA’s Space Launch System (SLS) – may experience ground wind gusts of up to 70 mph as it sits on the launch pad before and during lift off for future missions. Understanding how environmental factors affect the rocket will help NASA maintain a safe and reliable distance away from the launch tower during launch.

>>14972450
if it could only nudge those SRB seal a bit

>>14972456
We'll know in a year when the proprietary period for the data collected in this observation ends

>>14972113
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h_cqTCT5g0

>>14972613
Make peace with the Lord you orange peace of shit

>>14972631
SLS is the Neo of rockets and no Agent Smith hater meanies can make it quit

https://twitter.com/joroulette/status/1590478721927913472

Biden targets Musk

>>14972613
https://www.wrh.noaa.gov/map/?&zoom=16&scroll_zoom=false&center=28.62611851529578,-80.62039249705771&boundaries=false,false,false,false,false,false,false,false,false,false,false&tab=observation&hazard=true&hazard_type=all&hazard_opacity=60&obs=true&obs_type=weather&elements=temp,wind,gust&temp_filter=-60,130&gust_filter=0,150&rh_filter=0,100&elev_filter=-300,14000&precip_filter=0.01,18&obs_popup=false&obs_density=60&obs_provider=ALL

75mph now and may get higher

>>14972640
Are you misreading the temperature reading, Anon?

Can we please automatically ban everyone who posts youtube or twitter links?

>>14972643
Nevermind, I thought you meant winds at the pad. It's the hurricane itself that's getting to 75.

SpaceX winning the HLS competition will always be the pinnacle of /sfg/

>>14972651
wrong, the peak was SN4 and then SN5

>>14972653
They gave me such optimism.

>>14972651
don't forget DM-2
first FH
The early days of starship dev (pre SN-1)
Dreamliner fucking up

Hell I remember /pol/ back in the Ron Paul days when the whole background was made an American flag for the Curiosity landing

>>14972653
I remember the dark age of MK1 exploding, to SN3 crumpling, to SN4 exploding too

>>14972663
Shit was moving so fast it was kino and awesome and every failure was followed by a solution within the month

I remember back when my starlink launch threads got like 40+ replies lmao
now I haven't even bothered for ages

>>14972673
it's a shame they're so worried about losing the launch mount and other launch equipment. But that's life now. I think it'll all speed up soon.....

>>14972639
he literally spoke to Putin. Was about time if you ask me

>>14972659
>whole background was made an American flag for the Curiosity landing
pic?

>>14972296
He just liquidated $4bn to sink his mismanagement of a dying company he bought at an inflated price. He’s an idiot

>>14972659
They also changed the background of /a/ to a picture of Mars and played "Feels So Moon" on loop

>>14972706
It's funny to think about but the dry mass of these things is so light they can be moved by ordinary construction equipment

>>14972584
I don't get it

>>14972688
this is gonna hurt the SS programme

>>14972710
They're still ~80-90T

Not as light as imagined, but still much lighter compared to when fully fueled

>>14972711
sax-playing dragon-riding honhon man Thomas Pesquet was given a Parisian feast by NASA

>>14972715
The amount of cheese he asked for still boggles the mind. I have french relatives and even they thought it was a bit much.

>>14972584
Fellow frenchmen aren't going to be happy to see that parmigiano in there

>>14972584
Disgusting. This food is probably only from 5, 10 congressional districts, tops.

>>14972719
Legend has it that he didn't shit the entire time until he was back on the ground.

>>14972043
>>14972033
>enough energy released in those 15 seconds to power the entire united states for an hour.

69mph gusts at pad. It's not doing good, but I doubt anything will fall off. Right?

>>14972743
SLS is fucking done for

>>14972743
>>14972749
Who’s to say it won’t get waterlogged?

>>14972743
Everything will be fine.

>>14972743
inshallah SLS will be destroyed

>>14972743
>>14972752
>https://blogs.nasa.gov/artemis/2022/11/08/nasa-prepares-rocket-spacecraft-ahead-of-tropical-storm-nicole-re-targets-launch/
Supposedly wind is the main issue and it's rated up to 85 mph gusts.

is this a nasa thing where
85mph rating = it's really rated for 200mph but there is margin after cushioning margin built in to the calculation,
or the nasa thing where at 85.001mph the entire stack will implode?

>>14972767
It could be 209 mph but if SLS is still standing, NASA will find a way to waiver it

>>14972767
Somewhere in between, otherwise they would probably have left it out last time or not left it out this time. The article says "designed to withstand 85 mph (74.4 knot) winds at the 60-foot level with structural margin," which probably means anything above ~95 mph is risking permanent damage.

It's over

>>14972605
>inexpensive atlas and delta rockets
Haha

>>14972743
SLS will be fine. It has the crawler to keep it from getting lonely.

>>14972806
You've got to wonder when exactly this was written. ULA has been working on the Delta IV's retirement plans since at least 2015.

>IT'S RATED UP TO 85MPH GUYS
guess what, it's not rated for a tree to hit it at 85mph

>>14972823
The 90s
https://twitter.com/dsfpspacefl1ght/status/1590409481917452288

>>14972828
Not a bad statement then. Delta II and Atlas IIAS put in a lot of good work in the 90s.

In my nightly prayers and offerings to Thoth, I'll also be making an appeal to Set, in the hopes that with the hammer of this storm's mighty winds he removes the great evil of SLS from us forever

>>14972663

You're all going to look very silly when the hurricane passes and SLS is just fine.

>>14972862
Fine or not, they're still going to have to roll it back to the VAB to check for damage, so a delay is guaranteed either way

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1590520102176309248

80+mph possible inc now

Hurricane heading straight northwards right towards SLS

THANK INDRA/ZEUS

>>14972883
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khk-ktBs1wc

>>14972883
KICKSTART MY HEART

>>14972883
blessings from Flood-chan

>>14972883
Holy fucking based

>>14972883
>THANK INDRA/ZEUS
Add Thor, he's generally considered protective and a friend to our mortal endeavors.

>>14972883

>>14972883
God i hope it falls over

gooddamn it i want to see this orange fat fuck actually fly

>>14972914
It'll never happen
Calling it now that a tree gets blown through it
And then the program is cancelled before the second gets to the pad

>>14972860
>ifunny
>twitter
>(they/them)

>>14972918
You wish.
They will throw tax dollaridoos at it until it flies to the moon once or twice, then switch to an all Starship.mission mode.

Or figure out a way fro LM and Boeing to build an upper stage that can fly on New Glenn or something.

>>14972911
more like ligma

>>14972882
But didn't they leave it out in the storm precisely because they *can't* roll it back another time without rechecking everything?

>>14972911
kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idGEd1Pz1cg

Do you guys believe there will be a successful interstellar probe during this century? Even just a simple solar sail probe to Proxima Centauri.
I guess it would be the next biggest meaningful achievement in the space race after humans on Mars.

>>14973001
mommy shotwell said yes to the question of seeing the start of interstellar missions in her lifetime
she's also on the board of directors at the Limitless Space Institute so maybe she is a bit kooky

>>14973000
>tornado's

>>14973001
yeah

>>14973001
Of your metric is “it doesn’t have to reach another star in under 100 years” then it’s already been done. Pioneers / voyagers / new horizons are bound to hit a star eveeeeentually
If your metric is “80-100 years” then no. The only way to do this would be with a power source so unbelievably powerful it would basically be a weapon of mass destruction too powerful to ever be built

>>14973008
That's one of my metrics. The other one is "it will send data when it arrives on another star", so those probes don't count because they will be dead by then.

I’m honestly curious if SLS is gonna be fucked tonight?

>>14973004
>she's also on the board of directors at the Limitless Space Institute so maybe she is a bit kooky
>mommy believes in FTL
We're gonna make it.

>>14973016
>>14973001
We might be able to launch one in our lifetime, but unless some advances happen with life extension, I don’t think you or I will be alive to see the data come back

https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1590530381949784064

Tesla's Giga Texas production lead now became vice president of Starship production

We gonna print 1000+ starships in 10 years

>>14973020
>>14973004
AFAIK a probe going 20% lightspeed could reach Proxima Centauri in 20 years, which is not unreasonable since this is the time it takes for current outer solar system missions.
But well, at least I hope we get telescopes big enough to image directly some close exoplanets.

>>14973027
Take the constant acceleration pill

>>14973034
I'm too retarded to understand this

>>14972262
I really don't understand how you can be this far into the echo chamber. You don't become the riches man in the world by being an incompetent manager. Fucking christ you reddit teenagers are pathetic.

>>14973040
Given the entire leftist MSM, echo chamber isn't that hard. The entire leddit site is filled with leftist echo chambers. Its cancer.

>>14973017
It is, in the most literal sense of the phrase, entirely in God's hands.

>>14972981
They either have to take the delay or launch a rocket with potential new structural weaknesses

>>14973037
you could get to proxima, and back, in 7 years (from your perspective) if you had a ship that could provide constant 1g acceleration
Betelgeuse and back in 20 years
andromeda and back in 50 years
Edge of the observable universe and back in 100 years

>>14973052
Ok but
>1. how would a ship do that?
>2. I certainly would not be selected to go on the ship so it's pointless for me.

>>14973040
It has never made sense to me either. Even if he wasn't the world's richest man, you don't create that many million/billion dollar companies by pure accident.

>>14973055
>how would a ship do that?
meme tech, although you could get a good fraction of that with a (super) small satellite and a mega beamed power source built on earth that spams the small spacecraft with absurd amounts of energy for momentum. You could image the proxima system up close in 20-30 years after launch, but you would also have a death laser on your hands

>>14973056
commies think that having daddy's money is the only thing that makes you successful, of course it helps but that's now how things work

>>14973060
So the laser sail proposal them, which is the only I consider realistic
>you would also have a death laser on your hands
Welp, I really want them to at least make a giant space telescope.

>>14973062
He only got 50k from his father. I got more than that for college from my middle-class parents. i know the 50k figure is accurate because Bloomberg did a big "takedown" of Musk a number of years ago and this is the number they produced, and because they realized it's a piddly sum compared to a very large number of people in US they just push the "Dad had emerald mine" angle.

>>14972262
Xe probably read that business insider twitter thread that totally destroyed felon husk (source: BI made it all the fuck up)

>>14973066

>>14973065
>a very large number of people in US they just push the "Dad had emerald mine" angle.
Isn't that even mostly misinformation?

>>14973070
kek the kaczynski one

>>14973072
That doesn't stop them.

>>14973065
It wasn't 50K, but ~20K and it wasn't something he "got" but rather an independent investment from the father which his father reaped the reward for that investment.

I could invest in Tesla right now and claim I gave Musk "$5K" while reaping $10K profit a year later. Really, the whole narrative is stupid. But because there's an endless amount of misinformation, the whole thing piles on top of one another and it becomes too stupid to fight against.

>>14973090
>it becomes too stupid to fight against.
Only because we're still at the point where we're trying to use facts to fight dumb ideas from emotionally driven people. The appropriate tool for this situation is bullets.

>Emerald mines! Government subsidies! Apartheid space man! Russian Asset!
>Your points are unconvincing. Please remain calm while I naturally select you out of this conversation

We're just not quite there yet.

>>14972918
>And then the program is cancelled before the second gets to the pad
Too late, Boing! got 82 Billion USD from the US government to keep flying their orange faggots. On another note, another redacted Space company was eligible but not selected, wonder why that is. Hm.

The space shuttle blew up twice and is still a fraction of the embarrassment that SLS is

i'm trans :(

>>14973132
transitioning from a NEET into an astronaut I hope

>>14973129
space shuttle was just a weird nuke delivery vessel so it blowing up was whatever

>>14973008
>The only way to do this would be with a power source so unbelievably powerful it would basically be a weapon of mass destruction too powerful to ever be built
that's completely false, explosive power and sustained power are not the same

I keep refreshing Berger’s Twitter to see if SLS exploded

>>14973140
I am right there is no argument. Do five minutes of research on this yourself

>>14973140
>>14973144
there's no such thing as an unarmed (interstellar) spacecraft
t. awthur

>>14973066
this burnt nugget writes most of the elon musk articles at BI btw

Any webcam to see how SLS is doing?

The Falcon 9 booster sitting in the storm is really rocking back and forth a lot

>>14973154
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnt2wZBg89g

spacex (starship), usa (sls), china (cz9). assuming china is the next to build a superheavy lifter, who will be next to follow suit? my guess is either another american company, or else maybe france will try. their country is the most spaceflight-interested in europe

>>14973172
russia will try but it will sit in limbo for three decades

>>14973172
I think New Gay with a third stage is technically super heavy lift if it ever gets built.

>>14973172
say it with me
HARD R

>>14973173
that's not interesting
>>14973174
i thought about that, but BO was also talking about New Armstrong (like 6 years ago lmao). doubt we see that before bezos dies, so maybe a third stage is more likely. or else might BO try for second stage reuse instead of a third stage

>>14973176
Hard R is a Zubrinesque mini starship, competitive with F9 for payload.

>>14973172
I think Japan and India would be capable but only if they suddenly committed to it. Russia will be too broken to do that now. BO wants to do it, but they have done so little so far I have no faith in them. Rocket Lab maybe could be capable, but I guess they will just focus on Neutron for now. So, France might really be the most realistic option.

>>14973066
Give me a single reason to justifying Elon’s behavior especially in the context of how Starship has been stagnating. I love space x but his behavior is inexcusable and childish

>>14973176
not superheavy lift, but have you ever wondered why Neutron looks suspicially like a second stage? yup. that's because it is. Neutron's "second stage" is third/kick stage in disguise. As Neutron is flying, RL will secretly build its massive stainless steel first stage. Neutron will sit on top. they will call it Basedtron

>>14973181
>>I think Japan and India would be capable but only if they suddenly committed to it.
Japan might be able to make an H3 tricore (H3H3H3?) capable of heavy lift if not super heavy lift. It'd get assraped by Falcon Heavy on cost though, being fully expendable.

>>14973181
they fly so infrequently, doubt they can get public support for the funding

>>14973181
>Japan
lol, no. Stagnating country becoming more and more bankrupt.

>>14973184
Is Japan going to be part of the Artemis missions? I could only see them throwing that much money for a moon rocket if they couldn't catch a ride with the US.

>>14973040
>>14973056
Same reason other billionaires yo don’t like have done it before. I’m sure you separate Steve Jobs marketing talents from the actual technical work of Wozniak and the engineers that have designed the products.

>>14973184
>>14973188
>>14973189
Japan will be content with riding shotgun to the Moon on American rockets from American soil. and that's ok

>>14973191
What the fuck are you even on about?

>>14972860
Which spaceflight organisation has the best logo?

>>14973193
Do you genuinely think Musk is responsible for the design or engineering of the projects that SpaceX is doing? Given his actions over the last year or so it’s clear that he’s a deeply insecure narcissist.

>>14973200
Since all his actual Wozniak equivalents keep saying that Elon does, in fact, know how to do the engineering and makes executive technical decisions, yes, I do genuinely think so. Now take your (you) and fuck off.

>>14973200
Just post your ugly tits or fuck off

>>14973200
Yes.

>>14973200
I don't think he is the ones who does the actual blueprints, but I think he might have a good understanding of them and might have goods points to make while discussing with the proper engineers.

>>14973200
Fucking christ I hate you agenda driven reddit niggers that can't see beyond your own hypocrisy. I specifically said MANAGEMENT. He's arguably one of the greatest production managers in the world. Turning incredibly complicated production lines into streamlined, fast and inexpensive ones is the one thing he definitely has the responsibility in making possible.

Again, this isn't reddit. Disingenuous agenda driven garbage doesn't fly nearly as good here.

>>14973198
From the ones I checked, I think Rocket Lab has the best one.

Why do leftists think CEOs do nothing?

>>14973040
Of course, selling 4 SLSs worth of Tesla stock in a panic, tanking his net worth and the market value of Tesla because he fucked up and bought fucking twitter of all things loosing revenue for the company definitely means he’s a genius manager
I’m sure beefing with randos on Twitter and getting angry at trolls is so constructive as that’s all that he seems to be doing these days

>>14973221
Many don't. They're just retards there to enforce austerity so that they can sell the company off to some larger company or just take the blame for the company's failings when it files for chapter 11 and they got their benefits package as the company is liquidated.

>>14973221
because CEOs are just sadistic capitalist pigs who like to torture their employees while stealing their production

>>14973222
>"Heh, yeah, Facebook may have lost 90% of its value, Netflix lost 80% of its value, and Amazon may be in the toilet, but did you know Tesla dipped 20% over a month?"

You're all so tiresome.

>>14973222
That literally doesn't exclude one from the other. Being petty and narcissistic isn't mutually exclusive to being brilliant. The man literally has autism ffs. Your entire "argument" relies on that he has become the riches man by pure luck and while being an idiot, which is absolutely fucking retarded. Him not being omnipotent in regards to the reaction for the market doesn't make him in anyway a bad manager.

His success and history speaks for itself. You being some agenda driven underage POS that desperately want your narrative to be true won't change that.

>>14973222
Starship would not exist if not for Elon Musk, and you will shake your fist at the sky as men braver than you set up Martian colonies.
The future is bright but you live in the darkness for some reason. lol faggot

>>14973215
>He's arguably one of the greatest production managers in the world
Nah it’s the production manager engineers he hired which I accept he can bring in good talent.
Tesla isn’t even better at producing cars than Toyota so even then I don’t understand why you’d call him the greatest in the world.

>>14973235
>Zip2
>X/PayPal
>SpaceX
>Tesla
>Starlink
>Solar City
>Stripe
>"Actually, he's a retard, and I'm the smart one."

>>14973235
I base this on what I have read from other leading experts in the industries he's involved in and from the people that he has previously worked with, like Tom Mueller. Even in his videos with Everydayastronaut he can't be helped to slip into talking about production management ffs. The biggest reason why Starship is made out of stainless steel is because that was a decision made by Musk to improve the potential of the production line.

And using competitors to claim he's not a good one is absolutely retarded, you think Toyota has an incredible production line of their own? That's how you fucking survive in the car industry.

>>14973240
toyoto doesn't have*

>>14973235
Toyota is so hilariously backwards on the future of transport I'll be surprised if they dont fade into obscurity or are bought out by a more competant Chinese manufacturer.

>>14973232
Please explain his genius management style that has lead to this Twitter debacle. He did that all by himself, the Tesla stock dipped because he sold like 20 million shares because again, he’s made a mess of his management of twitter.

>>14973247
Twitter will become the most valuable social media company in history, and so much more. Welcome to the X.com master plan. Strap yourself in, dear redditor

>>14973247
What's there to explain? He took a risk and it didn't paid off as of yet. Him not anticipating the immense backlash is not a management issue, it's an appearance issue. He has barely been able to manage anything as of yet. He very clearly has a vision for twitter. Being the hate sink of the narrative obsessed American left, the biggest group on twitter, is not the consequence of his management of the business itself. That's entirely an image problem.

>>14973252
he has an image problem because he's never played nice with The Club and gets more successful and influential year over year

>>14973239
you forgot OpenAI

>>14973234
At this point Starship is limping by in spite of his shenanigans

>>14973256
Starship is to limping as SLS is to ___

>>14973258
Decomposing?

>>14973253
That, but also because he clearly is on the spectrum and is not very good at reading social cues. And for the twitter mob and retards like >>14973247 appearance and virtue signaling is FAR more important than what you actually do.

>>14973258
SLS can blow up from the storm from all I care. Musk has been such a fucking idiot that I fear he’s risking SpaceX for his ego. If he actually cared about it he wouldn’t have literally have $4 billion in cash to pump into twitter while at the same time claim he needs government contracts for SpaceX

>>14973264
>claim he needs government contracts for SpaceX
Yeah, I wonder why he claims SpaceX needs their biggest customer. Do you even read the shit you write?

>>14973256
>limping by
Lol. Lmao. It's never been closer to launch, and never been better in terms of rate of ship and infrastructure manufacture.
Are you the rover masturbator, by any chance? You seem to be very Earther-centric.

>>14973264
You're far too low of IQ to understand that everything that has occurred, every minute action by the man we call Elon Musk, is by objective fact accelerating the colonization of Mars.

>>14973252
I’d say that saying he’s a “free speech absolutist” while banning people for parody accounts, saying he’s giving the blue check mark to people who pay but the oops were actually just converting the blue marks to grey ones because surprisingly free speech absolutism is fucking retarded

>>14973269
how the fuck is bird app accelerating interplanetary colonization? that shit is just ruining humanity

>>14973270
Freedom isn't free. Hypocrisy is based. Lying is based.

>>14973270
desu if I had millions of bots using my name to peddle crypto scams I'd get pretty touchy about my impersonators too

>>14973266
I see you’re huffing on that copium. I was there two months ago. I really wish Starship actually succeeds but Musk is too busy dealing with the self imposed problems of buying failing social media for some fucking reason

>>14973276
>he doesnt know

>>14973270
As far as I know he has permanently banned anyone. Just blocked people.

And seeing as blue check marks long lost their purpose of verification and is now just a status symbol on twitter having it become a paid service while having independent verification for people and institutions that actually need it is a better alternative.

Again, you really don't care about the changes. You only care that Musk implement them. If you actually look at the changes he's making in a vacuum you can clearly see they are far more sensible than you're willing to give it credit for.

>>14973287
hasn't* permanently

>>14973272
>>14973274
Atlas V used to be my favourite rocket

>>14973269
Like the other guy said, wasting more billions that people in this thread complain about being too much for other projects is for sure helping getting people to mars

>>14973283
Nobody but you is caring about what Musk does in his free time on Earth, using money that he made from something other than space launch provider contracts and starlink revenue. This is what YOU care about, not us, because YOU short TSLA. We care about him working on Starship, and the rate of progress, because it is a very capable super heavy launch system. Money does not increase Starship development rate, and we already have a schedule for things to come thanks to transparency reports being mandatory from NASA.

Also: What the fuck is a copium?

>>14973293
Twitter will become more valuable than Starlink. Screencap this

>>14973300
>Also: What the fuck is a copium?

An aerosol that Russians huff because they are losing against the poorest country in eastern Europe.

>>14973300
>copium
Shitposting speak for that you're coping. Recently a term hijacked from /v/ by underage retards on reddit and twitter.

>>14973300
If I was shorting Tesla I’d be celebrating though

>>14973300
Actually is be pretty confident that if the starship project got 4 times the yearly cost of SLS they would have at least static fired the booster with all the engines and fixed the tiles from falling off.
Instead that money is going to Twitter of course

There's a product plan I wrote which I wish I kept a copy of in July of 2000, where I thought it would be possible to make the most valuable financial institution in the world. And we're going to execute that plan from 22 years ago, which amazingly no one has done. It's is part of why I think Twitter will be ultimately extremely valuable, because I'm going to execute the X.com gameplan from 22 years ago, with some improvements.

If we pray a little harder it might go completely out of focus, never to be seen again.

>>14973316
That's fucking retarded. Starship's development is hindered by human resources and the rate of problem solving. Those aren't problems you can throw money at to fix. More money won't mean they will have all of sudden double the amount of competent people with a deep understanding of the system.

>>14973316
If Blue Origin had 1 Trillion dollars they would have finished building O'Neill's cylinder by now

>>14973323
Personally I want to see it again. Here. And there. And bits over there...

mondo megabits, the martian monetary method

>>14973328
with a proper budget Germany could build a Starship in 2 weeks

>>14973336
>the martian monetary method
Marscoin

>Astra fucks up TROPICS
>Our timeline ends up with inferior hurricane data
>Different data, potentially different rollback decision
>Astra killed SLS

>>14973338
Germany has already built them, and buried them, eons ago. When they return the will carry essence through lightning down beneath the cold earth and arise

Could I go to space if I’m in a career making $50,000 a year?

>>14973344
>Gattaca
pure kino

>>14973346
I enjoyed it, I found it funny at the end they boarded a ship bound for Titan in fucking business suits

>>14973040
>echo chamber
>>14973056
>made sense

You gotta realize commies are emotionally driven by narratives rather than truth and logic. These people arent your equals. They are subhuman.

>>14973346
It’s my favorite movie. We are all gonna make it, bros…
I will never forget the field trip my shitty public school made to a local science museum in california. I was from an inner city school.
I will not forget how the other kids were bored out of their minds or making fun of the exhibits but 5 year old me stared in awe at a (pre-recorded) video of an astronaut going on a space walk. Looking down at the earth from the void above is the only thing I’ve desired ever since.
I emphasize so much with the main character of Gattaca. I did not ask to be born without a dad in a shitty home in a fucked up city. I’ve done everything I can to bring myself closer to space. Just as Vincent simply persevered to reach his goal, so do I.
Per aspera ad Astra

is it even possible to cum in space

>>14973359
Yeah probably

>>14973361
>>14973359
I refuse to believe every single astronaut has done NoFap for months on end. Every single one. One guy probably at the very least has blasted rope in orbit.

>>14973362
That nip tourist that went up last year said he couldn't get a boner in space.

>>14973361
>>14973362
why wont nasa name and shame them?

>>14973366
Being known as the man who coomed where no man coomed before is not a great honour

>>14973365
Oh shit I forgot

Going to bed now but apparently the wind is at 82 mph down at 39B according to the lighting tower. The max safe gust speed is 85 mph.

Wont one of you GET OUT THERE under the cover of STORM??? Make sure it is DONE

>>14972113
ACTION IS COMING

>>14973381
I think /ourgirl/ Nicole won't have any trouble doing the job by herself

>>14973387
HO HO, NICOLE YOU SAY? A GIRL?

>>14973381
Long live SpaceX

>>14973348
>boarded a ship bound for Titan in fucking business suits
Is this not the future you want?

>>14973359
Brazilian astronaut said in a podcast that you can't get your blood pressure enough to get hard while in orbit.

>>14973395
yeah ok fair, but if you're living in a reality where a trip to Titan is basically a leisurely trans-atlantic flight , you're practically post scarcity and shouldn't need draconian "astronaut" requirements anymore

SLS is only 3 mph away from being fucked lol

In other news, Booster 7 will attempt a 16 engine static fire today.

>>14973413
My package arrives today too! This could be a very good day, SLS destroyed utterly, Starship static fire, and my package!

>>14973413
bros I thought Starship was limping...

>>14973414
Yeah same lol. Todays gonna be a good day for me too. Good luck with your package!

>>14973418
For real lol. Goes to show that SpaceX really is the king of spaceflight

two anons ordered dragon dildos at the same time...

>>14973381
Don't worry, SpaceX's team is in position and awaiting the call from Muskrat prime.

https://www.ulalaunch.com/missions/next-launch/atlas-v-jpss-2
>the Atlas V launching tonight was filled with RP-1 3 weeks ago
wtf

>>14973435
lmao probably had to do it to save money on gas

Here's what JPSS does
https://rammb-slider.cira.colostate.edu/?sat=jpss

>>14973362
Considering the first two decades of spaceflight were in cramped conditions almost continuously suited up, I can believe that

I expect there were shenanigans on Skylab and Mir/Salyut that we never heard about but there was near total lack of privacy. ISS has near complete internal camera coverage

>>14973454
Swath width is like 3000km on one of those cameras

Must be gold for atmospheric modeling

LIVE CAMERAS WATCHING SLS HAVE BEEN CUT! I REPEAT LIVE CAMERAS WATCHING SLS HAVE BEEN CUT!!! NOT A DRILL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnt2wZBg89g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN50Gj7zejY

>>14973468

Crazy timing, this couldn't have hit the pad with greater accuracy. Is the worst past yet?

>>14973468
>Feed cut the just as the eyewall hits cape
uhh... SLSisters???

>>14973477
it could get a bit windier but it might be moving too fast west to make up the latitudinal distance

>60fps launch
kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eSn9_v9Q_8

Winds reached 97 mph. It’s over.

>>14973468
>Construction material from lc39a smashes into SLS
>SpaceX blamed
>Starship grounded until New Glenn flies
Bezos wins again!

>another fucking valve issue

>feed back up
>SLS still standing
JUST DIE YOU PIECE OF SHIT

>>14973497
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHwVBirqD2s

>>14973359
>>14973362
>coomer goes to space, one of the few people in the world that can
>still only thinks about COOOMING

>>14973505
I mean, don't you wonder what it would be like to bust a nut in some strange in zero g?
think of the bouncy tits

>>14973468
It's because there is no power.

T. man who is across the state.

>>14973468

>>14973512
All the other cameras are on for both streams and lighting only the ones pointing directly at SLS are down.

>>14973497

I'm afraid that rollback is necessary to assess the damage.

>>14973491
Max gust of 100mph / 87kts reported.

Status report on this poor thing?
Is it still a minefield of political clownery, or did the research teams get their telescope back?