/sci/ - Science & Math

ask your psychiatrist to prescribe you a calculus audio textbook

>>14972147
In my experience, if you have ADHD, adderall (whichever dose doesn't give you side-effects) cures it. If not immediately like magic, then progressively as you re-learn how to use your brain.

If you have it due to some other neurological condition, unfortunately you will be tied to your calculator. For some people they don't have a problem at all with formulas or symbolic representation, just the numerical aspect. If you have a problem with the symbolic aspect, or doing any of that at all, that's beyond anyone I've ever known with it.

I don't think it's "over". That depends on how creative you want to be dealing with a disability. Can't say for you whether that's worth it or not.

>>14972527
I'm refuting this with personal anecdotes, which are essentially worthless otherwise but we're talking about our own experiences. It can improve it slightly, but I still get numbers transposed. Even medicated, I've stressed myself out enough with learning a concept that I started fucking up on basic function notation.
I think with ADHD-based mathematics learning struggles, it might come down to keeping consistent routine with working on problems. Possibly even making sure to go over the basics in short stints every other time. There's also the question of whether or not it just takes a more in depth explanation of each step. Understanding the why and the what with really good instruction material made a significant difference for me.

>>14972527
I can do basic arithmetic, but if you asked me to visualise1 to 9 in my head I couldn't do it. I can see all of the numbers but not all at once. Its as though I lack processing power. I've practiced dividing double digitis in my head and I have improved somewhat. I am very forgetful when it comes to formuli. I think that the area of a circle is pi*r sqared, but I can't tell you for certain stuff like that. I have passable image visualisation, however my mapping is quite good. Its less visual though and more of a feeling, sometimes. It's what makes me very good with direction and maps. It's very hard for me to get lost but dyscalculics apparently struggle with this. Not sure if i have it mildly, if something else is at play or if I'm just a retard. I am essentially at a 9th grade level in mathematics and I left school years ago. I have spent the last 5 years doing nothing though so perhaps atrophy is a factor. Arithmetic and visualisation have always troubled me though, particularly arithmetic. Strangely I can figure out more algebraic things mentally than numerical things. I like algebra though. A relative of mine has dyslexia, I'm not sure if that is a risk factor.

>>14972691
You have dyscalculia?

>>14972691
Do, please, because there's a wide divergence in outcomes for medication and certain kinds of training.

It isn't as if I know of some study where "train this way" or "take this med" it cures it. Different degrees require different methods. For me, my dyscalculia was cured outright even once off medication. I can't explain it and neither can anyone else.
>>14972694
atrophy is a huge factor in things like that. Use khan academy to get back up to snuff. It'll be painful but you'll pick it up in a few weeks if you are consistent. Consistency is key, and sadly what people suffering ADHD are worst at. If, that is, you have ADHD.

>>14972513
Reatrd-tier humour

>>14972702
I don't think that I have adhd. I can sit still for hours, I concentrate fairly well (although I am very sensitive to distracting noises or movement), I don't really get hyper, etc.

>>14972713
ADHD symptoms can improve with age. Also, do not be fooled like many people who get misdiagnosed. There are two kinds of ADHD, formerly ADD, one is hyperactive and one is "inattentive". ADHD can also flair up situationally and otherwise be subclinical. There's a lot of variation there.

I'm only repeating what I am familiar with. It's uncanny for dyscalculia to just be there with no comorbidity, but I'm not an expert on dyscalculia. I'm simply pointing out what I think is more likely, that you have another neurological disorder with it. Whether autism, inattentive ADHD, or subclinical ADHD.

I always feel the need to raise these points due to the general ignorance, but also the ignorance on the internet. You find lots of people claiming adderall won't fix dyslexia, or dyscalculia, but it literally cured me. I sincerely doubt I am the only one. I also doubt it'd cure most people, but I equally think it would help. It would also help if people in general knew about inattentive ADHD. Just trying to help. For autism though, I have no autistic friends or anything, so if that's an issue I can't give any suggestions.

>>14972721
My family cl me autistic a lot but j think they mean in a malicious way not a diagnostic one. Also, when you say cured do you mean that it won't return if you stop taking adderall? I hear that adderall permanently changes your neurochemisty and can be very addictive so it's probably not something I'd consider. Especially seeing as I'm not sure if I have a condition or Iif I'm just bad at arithmetic.

>>14972746
>I hear that adderall permanently changes your neurochemisty and can be very addictive so it's probably not something I'd consider.
This is false, and utterly ridiculous. If this were true, then children given adderall who've been diagnosed with ADHD would not show longitudinal improvement (that is long-term permanent improvement) over children who were never given any. On adderall far more children end up being subclinical, and not needing it, by adulthood for example. This is a stupid facebook-tier myth by boomers. I suggest you get better information from a credible source, like an actual neuropharmacologist or a doctor.
>Especially seeing as I'm not sure if I have a condition or Iif I'm just bad at arithmetic.
IQ testing is not actually used for dick measuring, but as a clinical diagnostic tool with a lot of uses. One of which is determining "asymmetries", like whether you are otherwise intelligent but something is not working normally in your brain. If you have normal or above-average functioning, but highly deficient working memory or abstract memory, etc, these can be used with other tests to help diagnosis.

I tell you this if and only if you think you might be more than simply "bad at math" due to lack of practice. You could be evaluated and diagnosed, but probably need either good health insurance or medicaid. Also worth pointing out that, like with autism, ADHD can manifest as social ineptitude as well. Which could get people who are more cruel to "jokingly" or maliciously call you autistic.

>>14972746
>Also, when you say cured do you mean that it won't return if you stop taking adderall?
I forgot to answer this. It happened for me, but I've been told and I gather I am a unique case of that happening. I only mentioned it as "a rare (apparently unheard of) possibility" because it happened to me.

>>14972754
I have never had my iq tested but I think that its below average. If academics are any indication, I never failed any subject but was just average at most and nearly failed mathematics and computing. Then later, I got Bs and nearly failed all subjects but coronavirus cut my education short and I didn't have to take any exams. Closest thing I've done to a test is the danish mensa test online but I ran out of time 7 questions before the end. It said 119 at the end but I hadn't finished and was rushing through earlier questions because I had to do something else. Neither of my parents are intelligent. However, both of my grandparents are highly intelligent. One is a mensa memeber with 148 iq. Unfortunately, neuropathology runs in the family my uncle has dyslexia and one of my parents parents is quite severely mentally ill. I don't know, but I'd imagine that has some genetic affect on me. Most of my family ,bar my grandfather and dyslexic uncle, have trouble with arithmetic.

>>14972147
read the book, "Zero"

>>14972788
IQ tests are not just a single number, but a plurality of different tests assessing different aspects of your brain and your intelligence. Like I said, it is very useful for diagnostics. I mentioned it because it would be one of those things, a real test, to help figure out if you have some neurological asymmetry. Online tests never actually break those down, and are used for nothing but dick measuring (which is not what an IQ test is for).

You my want to seek some kind of psychiatric assessment, if possible, to figure out what's going on. You literally just told me a story about distraction and poor time management, yet are also saying you don't think you have ADHD. I kind of find that funny.

>>14972792
Why?

>>14972796
I thought that as I was writing it, but I was waiting for someone else to do something and doing the 'test' in-between. My time management is actually abnormally good. I didn't get distracted though, the timer on the test ran down. Out of all probabilities, I'd probably put ADHD as the least likely. From what I know of the symptoms, I don't display any (that I've noticed). I can focus for long periods of time, I can sit/stand still for hours (once sat still for 6 hours with a small gap halfway through), I don't get hyper, etc.

>>14972952
There are several others that correspond to dyscalculia. However, it is possible you do not actually have dyscalculia. Only way to know is to seek out some psychiatric help if you truly think it is a problem.

>>14972147
Look at fractals, they show up throughout nature and are one of the beautiful bits of math
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_set

>>14972147
Dyscalculia is just a pc term for low IQ. All your symptoms are describable as low IQ.

>>14972513

>>14973019
Is chaos theory represented in the brain/consciousness?

I went quite far in my mathematics studies but I suck at computation lol
I once embarrassed myself because I couldn't immediately factorise a quadratic polynomial on the spot in front of my advisor and a couple of other students. My friend had to step in to alleviate my embarrassment

>>14973019
I am aware of fractals

>>14973637
Probably