/sci/ - Science & Math

>>14875596
speak for yourself

>>14875596
i am

t read 52 books every year

>>14875596

Who is "we"? You mean your approved fundamentalist / catholic celebrities? They are slaves. Open your eyes. The people you are looking for are all around you.

You fucking faggot

>>14875596
Credentialism exists so that midwit pseuds can keep polymaths out of their disciplines.

>>14875806

>>14875596
Individual fields are far too big these days for polymaths to really exist. These people usually are terrible at many fields, excelling at none, and thus useless.

>>14876008
What this guy said. Specialization within fields has gotten to the point that once there was a few fields where maybe a handful of people on earth understood it, now we are at the point where there are thousands and thousands of such situations. Even something as important as photolithography relies on a few hundred people knowing what they know.

you're given a project and people expect you to become an expert within 3 months. polymaths are dime a dozen, it's just that they aren't public figures.

>>14875596
polymath insights are axiomatically rejected by reductionist specialists. leave academia

>>14876008
and here we see in action the principle referenced by >>14875806 and >>14876098

>>14876014
it doesn't take knowledge of every field or even knowledge of several fields down to the remotest detail, and the vast majority of scientists doing research in any given discipline even those considered experts do not have that level of knowledge.

>>14875600
Reading 52 novels a year does not make a polymath, fool

>>14876184
>>14876098
This is pure dishonesty. If von Neumann had to specialize in applied math and couldn't do both pure and applied simultaneously, I highly doubt any of you pseuds would ever manage to attain expert knowledge in one field, let alone several.
Right back to circle-jerking with the Mandlboar, you good-for-nothing scum.

>>14875596
>we still don't have people talented across a variety of disciplines.
We are still here.
On 4ch.

>>14876247
Yes it does. Where do you think knowledge comes from idiot?

>>14875596
this >>14875806 is pretty much your answer OP
the way education is set up strongly discourages people from studying multiple things at a given time, particularly when you get into university.
That said, becoming a polymath ain't that hard. You just have to work. The trick is to make connections between the different disciplines your learning. For example, the Renaissance painters studied geometry and used it to add perspective to their art and thus painting strengthened their geometry and geometry improved their art. You can find connections everywhere. Everything is interconnected.
Some are more obvious than others, i.e. programming/computer science pairs well with math, but you can have programming and math help you in other fields. For example, I have a math background, but I'm currently doing recent concerning the writing styles of certain Roman authors, and I'm using my knowledge of programming and statistics to argue whether or not certain texts were written by certain authors.
Always look for ways to use one discipline to deepen your understanding of another.
Another thing about polymaths is they aren't passive. While many people when they get home may crack open a beer and watch tv, a polymath cracks open a beer, sits down and draws or works on math problems or writes a program to make his life easier.

TLDR
Universities/credentialism discourage polymathy
You can still be one though. Find how the different subjects/skills your learning complement each other.
Make learning your recreation.

>>14877444

>>14876098
This is why Electric Universe gets such backlash. Since the majority of critics don't know enough about the subject to attack the math, they vainly strike at the people and keep them from publishing.

>>14875806
This

>>14875600
>t read 52 books every year
52 homosexual revisions of 50 shades of grey

>>14877269
who hurt you?

>>14877457

>>14878061
read brave new world

>>14878061
This is silly, and it's not how humans organize.

>>14877269
Von neumann was a human supercomputer, you don't see that very often its extremely rare.

>>14877342
from non-fiction, generally

You can keep reading Charlotte's Webb to try learn nuclear physics if you want though.

>>14878319
It's how our society currently organizes.

>>14878544
Gifted drop-outs are executed by the state?

>>14877269
>mega genius
>polymath within math
keep coping anon
polymaths don't work in a practical way

Being a polymath does not mean you are limited to purely academic fields. Music is an open possibility, as are other fields of art. Einstein did not need any certificates to play the violin. You don't either.

I work in a field where i see a bit of this. Professionally we have minimum master's degree, many have a PhD. At the same time, most read books more widely then the average, and have a lot of interest in classical history and arts, to the point of studying the fields as gentlemen scientists. And they are not afraid to battling professors in the fields.

>>14875596
1. most people are encouraged more than ever before to stay in the public school system as the method for success
2. The people who are succeed in learning many things and become polymaths by nature arent going to be online or if they have any brains, in a modern schooling system.
3.Although its in the best interests of those who are able, being a polymath isnt encouraged because society as of late isnt good at dealing with people who are outcasts either to do abilities or talent.
Im sure they exist because outliers always exist, but you probably have to actually do the legwork to find them since if they're actually working hard to learn multiple things they arent wasting their time by nature

>>14875806
damn I wrote all that when the best post is right here. Good shit anon

>>14877476
Electric Universe is a pseudo-scientific conspiracy theory which is based on Immanuel Velikovsky's crackpottery.

>>14877457
>How To Control People
Step 1. Own All The $
Step 2. Oh wait, that's it, well played, go pop open a cold beer or light a cigar with the olympic flame or whatever

this thread convinced me that nobody on /sci/ is a polymath.
the polymath meme is stupid you don't go on some sort of retarded grindset on purpose to achieve it just just happens by itself.
polymaths exist but you wouldn't know because they happen to not be retarded and announce themselves as a polymath. i am sure most polymaths don't even know they're a polymath or have wasted their potential.

>>14876008
>These people usually are terrible at many fields, excelling at none, and thus useless.
For various reasons I have been involved in many different fields. When people generously tell me you can be a jack of all trades and master of none, I inform them I am a PhD of one. I know it is a cheap shot, but the look on their faces is priceless and makes it worth it.

>>14879648
>he thinks EU comes from Velikosfsky
moron

>>14878558
Figuratively yes. Through the school system ingenuity and innovation by young individuals is squandered and snuffed out in place to blind faith and nepotism to established professors.

>>14875806
:,)

>>14875806
This is more or less the answer. You can technically bypass credentialism but you usually need "fuck you" tier money to prevent midwits from blocking your path. Unfortunately only meme people have said money.