/sci/ - Science & Math

>>14867378
>YOU'VE BEEN HIT BY
>UH
>YOU"VE BEEN STRUCK BY
>THE BOURBAKI SCHOOL OF MAKING MATH TEXT BOOKS FORMAL INSTEAD OF PEDAGOGIC
Western textbooks are beyond trash, they are verbose garbage intended to impress mathematicians, not to teach math.
Find some pdf's of old soviet books on the subject you are trying to learn, they will be infinitely better and more enjoyable.

>>14867378
Deeper understanding of material won’t be found it textbooks. Some people can’t learn math from reading textbooks. Just keep using whatever resources are working for you:

>>14867378
git gud. Keep trying; you'll get better with time and figure out what techniques work for you. Also what >>14867409 said.

And don't fall for memes like >>14867406, just stick what whatever resources are readily available.

>>14867453
>>14867378
sorry. I got them mixed up. I tried to say do what >>14867406 said and don't fall for memes like >>14867409 .
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>>14867378
Which book are you reading? Is it the Stewart one? Because that one is ass

>>14867406
What electromagnetism books did old soviets use and does this apply for physics too?

>>14867406
>Bourbaki school
>Stewart

>>14867378
Get good sleep and exercise. You are gonna get filtered hard if you continue to follow those YouTube channels.

>>14867817
this also stop eating goyslop

>>14867588
>Because that one is ass
Never heard such a cold take. One of the best college textbooks that exists, out of any subject.

>>14867378
I'm a math phd student and i think no good professor should assign pages of a textbook to just outright read. Sure, maybe for research you read papers and notes, but even then you're just skimming and stopping to look closer at what you need to clarify. A textbook should be a resource, not the main mode of learning. I feel like this is why so many anons here fail miserably when trying to learn math on their own.

To me it kind of sounds like a lazy thing your prof is doing so they can teach less. If you're doing fine on the hw and tests, I would just ignore this "assignment."

Why do math professors always pick the literal WORST textbooks in the universe to teach the material from?
It's like they actively look for the most unintuitive books with the worst practice problems.

>>14868057
Tenure faculty in the department hurriedly write them and then bank infinite passive income. Its a massive scam, never use the uni provided book.

>>14868057
Their trying to actively filter you so that being a math phd is as valuable as possible

nut up buttercup, just get it done
if you don't do it, someone else will

>>14867582
>>14867378
Nvm, got it right the first time.

>>14867378
>I don't have ADHD btw
How do you know? This sounds a lot like ADHD.

>>14868050
Considering the difference between books like Apostol and Stewart?

So attending lectures is what you primarily use to learn.

>>14868688
>So attending lectures is what you primarily use to learn.
Let's say you have to learn the limit definition of the derivative. You should open your lecture notes first and read the definition and first few examples. If those were not helpful, you should only then go to the textbook for further clarification. The textbook is nothing more than a cleaner presentation of the same thing that you should already have seen before, plus extra exercises that your prof can't afford to give due to the time constraints of lecture. You should attempt said exercises. If that does not help, try some YouTube videos. Different mediums help different folks.

If you're still lost after all this, you're probably retarded, or have a shaky foundation of prerecs. When the latter is true, you should follow the same steps above with that prerec being the new topic you need to learn.

Nowhere in that string of tasks is there a step where you just open the book and start reading from the first line of the first chapter. That's just not going to help you, I don't care what topic or what class.

>>14868913
If you want to understand the subject, you read a (good) book and watch 3b1b. If you just want to get enough GPA to graduate, you follow lecture notes, Stewart, and watch Organic Chemistry Tutor, or Patrick JMT, or whatever.
Simple as.

>>14868034
not him.
But this kind of answers usually comes from pedantic assholes that struggled as undergrads but managed to overcome it with slightly good grades so they feel entitled to look down on newbies and freshmen.

At a beginner level Stewart is good. Period.

>>14868913
I thought the proper way to go about it would be to read through the text, do the problem set, and ask for clarification during the corresponding lecture/office hours.

>If you're still lost after all this, you're probably retarded, or have a shaky foundation of prerecs.
It's the former for me.

>>14868430
No, I don't think so

>>14869203
>Steward in undergrad

>>14867378
He's trolling you OP

>>14867817
lol soo true I got filtered hard in upper division chem classes orgo chem and introductory physics 1 and 2 when I didn't read the book/do their 40 times harder problems than youtube vids

>>14867817
I didn't realize how brainlet organic chem tutor was until I had to deal with my first physics class all his examples were way too easy to even be close actual uni level physics problem sets they are a billion times harder and even the exam is quadrupally as harder than that. Got RAPED and FILTERED, than RAPED AGAIN UNTIL I Realized I was A TRUE BRAINLET!!!

>>14870229
Lmao just do more algebra problems for practice and watch the brainletism wither away

>>14870242
I did practice some algebra lol, algebra wasn't that hard but as far as problems go if its a level 3 giancoli physics problem am fucked.

>>14870242
I can solve maybe a level 1, level 2 sometimes, and level 3 never I got FILTERED HARD Like THE BRAINLET I AM!!!!! General Problems Oh Man am absolutely fucked for those no chance of solving them.

>>14870242
I submitted to physics like THE BIG PUSSY BITCH I AM!!!!

<<Physics problem to me: Bend Thy Knee Sir Cuck
<<Brainlet with self esteem: NEVER! I WILL BEAT YOU!!
<<Physics level 3 and general problems: Bend OVER BOY! You and Your woman both of you will be plowed and RAPED by me tonight!

<<Sir Brainlet with low self esteem now: Submits with dead look in face and eyes... will continuously remember such horrid defeat for the rest of his life

>>14870242
Bends Knee now whenever necessary to be reminded of inferior brainletism...........

>>14870273
>>14870288
>>14870289
>Anon has a stroke about physics.jpg
Lmao just practice more

>>14869203
Nah, Stewart sucks at the beginner level. He can't decide if he wants the book to be
at an introductory level or a rigorous level, so he switches back and forth, defining and over explaining simple concepts for hundreds of pages, while the difficult parts are given a sentence or two. A better move would be to read the Larson book, which is beginner friendly the whole way through, then the Spivak book or rudin, for a deeper treatment.

>>14870354
>Nah, Stewart sucks at the beginner level. He can't decide if he wants the book to be
>at an introductory level or a rigorous level, so he switches back and forth, defining and over explaining simple concepts for hundreds of pages, while the difficult parts are given a sentence or two. A better move would be to read the Larson book, which is beginner friendly the whole way through , then the Spivak book
Ok well, I agree with in almost all of this.
>or rudin, for a deeper treatment.
but not this much with this last one portion.