/sci/ - Science & Math

>>14854129
No. Women have priced themselves out of the marriage market. They have decreased their value to men while also increasing the risk to men. Men have rationally responded to these changes in the risk/reward ratio.
You will ignore the above paragraph because you've posted this hundreds of times and are 100% convinced if porn went away, men would magically fall in love with obese, lazy, obnoxious women who are looking for the best ways to abuse men and extract their resources while giving little in return.
Porn is a reaction to modern women, it's not the cause of modern women.
But please reply with your single variable analysis that you're 100% is correct and the one and only cause of the current situation.

>>14854129

There is not only 1 reason
You are forgetting social media, which had a bigger impact than porn
Before social media people met their romantic partners at work, or a bus stop, or a disco
Now approaching women outside of the designated social media dating apps has become risky, and a lot of men can't get laid anymore because all women are competing for the top 20% men

Many modern women can't understand how previous generations of women met their romantic partners, when it was impossible to filter men the way they can do it now through dating apps, modern people are mostly atheists, and they have replaced marrying within your religion with marrying within your ideology

Men dropping out of this competition to videogames and porn is a consequence of that, it's not the reason for them dropping out of the sexual market, it's their way of coping

>>14854129
It’s not so much as it raises mens standards, but more that they are less motivated to see sexual satisfaction from real women when they have easily available porn,

There are many reasons for low fertility though,
>anti male education system and diversity hiring pushes men out of the economy and raises women, but women still want a man who earns as much or more than them, and crushing mens self esteem as they can’t provide for women as well
>declining testosterone counts
>people moving to indoor entertainment and going outside less, see bowling alone
>collapse of traditional religions which value marriage and family
>anti male divorce courts and marriage dead bedrooms or infidelity horror stories putting men off from getting married
>people moving to dating apps where the algorithm promotes a small number of male accounts to a large number of women, so they don’t settle down.

>>14854129
men who watch it, watch it to cope
men who can regularly have sex barely ever watch it

>>14854129
>Think about it, porn creates conditions where men's brains are tricked into believing they can breed with women who are genetically superior to them
I strictly masturbate to landwhales.

>>14854129
The economy went to shit so now people can't afford to have kids.
The only people having kids are people from even worse shitholes like Mexico/Syria/Cuba.

>>14854129

Porn actresses (and actors) aren't really that good looking. Every time I go to a conference with many economists or doctors younger than 40, there is people much better looking than porn actors.
Porn star is a low class job.

>>14854142
>the risk/reward ratio
The cost/benefit ratio is also horrific.

>>14854780
Complete nonsense. White people have never been wealthier than they are today.

>>14854143
>Men dropping out of this competition to videogames and porn is a consequence of that, it's not the reason for them dropping out of the sexual market, it's their way of coping
Pretty much. It's much easier for a man to just watch porn to relieve horniness than go through the ordeal of having to find a girlfriend.

>>14854866
>Complete nonsense. White people have never been wealthier than they are today.
Maybe if you're looking at "big number go up" = wealth. But in terms of wages white people are poorer than any time since the 1930s.

>>14854866
>White people have never been wealthier than they are today.
Only because half a dozen white people have hundreds of billions of dollars, heavily skewing the average. Most white people have less than they usually would 150 years ago

>>14854878
>Wage is net worth
Landlet and stocklet detected.

>>14854882
It's a bubble, anon. Inflation doesn't make you rich.

>>14854866
>White people have never been wealthier than they are today
I'm white and I make exactly 10x less money than my parents. I will never be able to achieve anything close to the lifestyle they had when they were my age.

>>14854866
>Complete nonsense. White people have never been wealthier than they are today.
Politicians keep saying so. Economists on the other hand keep warning against massive private debt. People live beyond thei means.

>>14854129
Cope.
It ultimately boils down to two things distractions and comfort. Women are placed in education which postpones their reproductive years, so instead of having possibly 5+ children, they can only have 1 or 2, so by the time men can afford children they received females who would've been considered the worst options for family building in the past.
Secondly, there's no urgency or demand to breed. In the past children were essential for retirement. Now? That's taking care of. There's no major threat that looms our existence, as a result there not a large demand for reproducing. Finally the sense of legacy isn't expected with your offspring (because of individualism and outside influences), so you're better convincing other people of your perspective than assuming your children will accept them.

Oh, that's not the answer you wanted?
It's because of those evil, beta, incel cucks who can't stop looking at pixels instead of kissing the asses of women (who wouldn't give them pussy anyway!)

>>14854143

I forgot to mention something
easy and widespread divorce has made marriage into an economically and emotionally risky thing, you can lose a lot of what you own, and end up in a psychological dark place not being allowed to see your children or something like that

Women have never had as much power as they have these days, and will make men accept unacceptable things if they want to be in their hole

>>14854866
>White people have never been wealthier than they are today
This n'gger is living in 1950's

>cost of living is rising along with inflation, average cost to raise a child from 0-17yrs is being reported to be over 300k in the developed world now
>women failing to realize what zero sum game is in play. Which means them joining the workforce in large numbers in turn reduces the maximum amount of men who can be employed which in turn reduces the amount of top paying positions they can occupy that said women demand their men to be in.
>having multiple wives is discouraged legally so even wealthy men cannot make up the deficit unless they're okay spawning bastards that can open them up to child support battles with a bunch of single mothers
>no fault divorce and child custody favors women thus allowing them to use the judicial system to take half a man's wealth, home and ability to see his children. It also often times imprison those unable to pay which can affect their ability to be employed which is needed to pay said child support
>why is the fertility rate so low?

It's a mystery op

I personally think it's simply economics. It costs way too much to raise a kid anymore. I make 18 a hour and it's decent. I have two girlfriends and constantly trying to fuck more pussy on the side. How many kids do I have? 0. I simply can't afford it. So I'm going to live my life and have fun and get laid and not have any kids. For all you poor bastards with 2 or more kids. Good luck.

>>14854129
Nah, porn is a result not a cause. People, especially "educated" ones, feel less hopeful about the future, so they feel less desire to have relationships, homes and families.

>>14855033
You think people in the past had money for luxuries while raising children? Of course they didn't. Modern people think they deserve to live a life of luxury while also raising children.

>>14855068

children used to be profitable when you could make them work in the farm
also, you needed them to take care of you if you managed to survive to an old age

>>14854143
The birth rate began falling long before social media was a thing, not that it couldn't be accelerating said fall, among other factors.

>>14854780
>The shit economy is preventing people form having kids.
>People in shittier economies have more kids.
Okaaay.

The poor always breed faster than the rich - it's more or less universal. Perhaps because the rich have other things to do, while family is all that poor folks have.

>>14855068
Not him but you're not seeing the forest for the trees. In the past the average man could build their own homes and not worry about taking out loans for it. In the present this isn't the case at all the average man.

Having a single family house is consider a ""luxury"" now.

>>14854129`
>Is porn the reason for the low fertility rates all over the developed world?
There's probably a plethora of reasons, aside from porn. Entertainment is more accessible than ever, increasing cost of living, rise in obesity rates, increased SSRI usage which negatively affects libido, the list goes on and on.

>>14854129
>Is porn the reason for the low fertility rates all over the developed world?
Okay, there's a hypothesis. Next you'll collect or analyze data and try to determine if there's a correlation or not, and whether it's spurious, right?
>This is happening on a global scale everywhere that porn is readily available.
Say it with me everybody: Correlation does not imply causation.
>>14855068
>You think people in the past had money for luxuries while raising children?
They did not have birth control. Add birth control into the mix, plus economic stability or instability, and so on, you get declining birth rates. Like the other anon pointed out, it is the economy.

In any case here's the actual qualitative assessment of why more developed economies have declines in birth rate: Quality over quantity. https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/fandd/issues/2022/analytical-series/new-economics-of-fertility-doepke-hannusch-kindermann-tertilt
In summary, as a society becomes safer and more prosperous the quality demanded increases as well. There's a focus shift both among people who now do not want children, as well as those who have children to have fewer children. Since so few die, relatively, people feel a lot safer having fewer children as well. There is no smoking gun "single reason" because people are not homogenous clones.

>>14855068
Yeah this. People have just forgotten the past due to the god tier prosperity we've been having since ww2. Hard truth is it's over. We can't live like its 1950-2010

>>14855797
Okay, you think people's standards are too high. So what?

>So much incel projecting in this thread
Greetings from India, where 90%+ of marriages are arranged, the average marriage age is 22, and the fertility rate has dropped off a cliff, and is now below replacement level in most urban areas. Following factors are influencing the drop, which are also at play in other developing countries (and have already been played out in developed ones):
>Higher status for women: women are staying in school longer and are for the most part literate, this is considered to have the biggest effect on fertility.
>Increased socio-economic development: children are still seen as a pension/insurance policy in India, but lower child mortality thanks to modern medicine means you don't have to pump out 10 and hope 2 make it to adulthood. Increased mechanisation of agriculture means you need less children to act as menial labour, and increased opportunities in the knowledge economy mean it makes more sense to have less children and invest in their education; one engineer in the family will bring in more money than 5 farm hands.
>Access to contraceptives: the Government has made contraceptives cheap and widely available, and specifically targeted women. The vast majority of India's married women are on some kind of contraceptives now, and as it turns out, when you give women the option to control their fertility, most will opt for 1-2 children.

dumb thread started on a bunch of premises that only sound good in OP's head but don't hold water in real life. SK has the lowest birth rates by far and porn is illegal there, and people are by-and-large demonstrably not using it illicitly either since you don't see other indicators of wide porn use like reduced sexual violence

>>14854866
There is nothing a woman could offer me that a fake pussy couldn't

>>14855816
IT isn't sustainable and the pendulum is getting ready to swing the other way.

>>14856065
>IT isn't sustainable
Again, so what? Just more of your personal asspull opinion with nothing to back it. You FEEL that way. So what?
>and the pendulum is getting ready to swing the other way.
What "pendulum"? Since when is "My life sucks and so would my kid so I won't have kids" a "pendulum"? The fuck are you smoking?

>>14856108
The amount of resources a person can acquire in their lifetime is decreasing while the luxuries afforded by those resources is constantly on the rise.
At one point it will plateau and it will all crash down.

>>14856112
>Malthusianism
Here's something you really need to ask yourself: How could you know that if you don't know the limit of technology and science? If you don't know where the limits are, you have no idea if it can even plateau in the long term. This was the mistake of Malthus, and everyone before and after him doing the same thing.

You don't have some insight or argument, you just have bad feelings you're retroactively trying to justify. In reality, you don't know, and can't know, or you'd shock and amaze the world with a nobel prize winning paper on predicting some ultimate limit of human achievement with a literal theory of everything. I am not underselling how absurd your resting assumption of your own knowledge must be to make the kind of stupid claim you just made.

>>14855893
What has been the effects on long term maternal health outcomes that result from controlling fertility? Has there been a measurable decrease in maternal death rates and reproductive health maladies? Do you think that environmental factors within India could be affecting the endocrine system, and therefore fertility?

>>14856121
Bro just look at the price of milk (or fuel if you're an amerifat). Shits going bad, real fast.

>>14856130
>Bro just look at the price of milk (or fuel if you're an amerifat). Shits going bad, real fast.
"Oh no, THIS TIME a market contraction will be permanent!" based on what? Source: Your ass.

>>14856135
>a massive global conflict that will result in millions of deaths isn't in the cards
>nothing bad will happen in the next 5-10 years that will completely reshuffle global politics and the modern way of life

>>14854129
No, it's electrical frying and pollutants

outbreeding deoression?

>>14856151
No

>>14856136
>Changing goalposts constantly to avoid admitting you're clueless
Typical. First you go "Standards too high!", make a Malthusian fallacy, then you go "Buht muh milk prices", now "world war 3!"

There's nothing you've brought up, at all, that justifies your initial claim. Making more claims doesn't count.

>>14854129
> genetically superior to them
doesn't p*rn have a race problem

just saying by darwinian standards, the genetic superior stock is in sub-saharan Africa

>>14856171

>People used to certain way of life
>That way of life is unsustainable
>It is becoming more volatile by the decade
>Current Events speeding up this process
>Consequences will never be the same

Just admit you're a smoothelet and you can't see how these things fit together and interact with each other and it's gonna be ok

>>14856177
>More Malthusian fallacy
Doing the same thing I already explained doesn't make sense isn't a rebuttal. It's conceding defeat. Yawn.

>>14856166
some of it is

>>14856180

>cost of goods increases
>wages stay the same
>ughadhas people still have the same even thought here is more of us
> surely the past 2 years haven't been a global scale crowd control drill

Staring into the abyss with eyes closed doesn't count.

>>14856196
>Devolves to schizoposting
Meh. Like I said, you feel bad and project that to unfounded conclusions. Because you feel bad.

>>14856196
>>wages stay the same
not how inflation works

Porn has been around since the 1970s. No, I think the fertility decline is due to more fundamental reasons than that. I think most of the world isn't well adapted to modernity. Essentially there used to be a fuck ton more demographic factors which made people have kids.

It was found that fertility rates are correlated with infectious disease prevalence, because if more people are dying, then somehow that psychologically that triggers something inside people to have more kids. It makes perfect sense.

Most infectious diseases were eradicated (at least the ones which cause major childhood mortality) and thus people no longer have the psychological pressure to have more kids. Of course the exception is Africa where many infectious diseases are still present. Also fertility should be correlated with mortality, you know you need kids to replenish all those people dying. Africa has a large murder rate, as does Honduras and much of central America, so all that murder probably does the same thing as people dying from infectious disease.

>>14856177
>>14856180
https://archive.org/details/WilliamEngdahlACenturyOfWar/page/n85/mode/2up?q=chevy&view=theater

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF0cz9OmCGw&ab_channel=WorldWarRide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g&ab_channel=billyjoelVEVO

Say you were having a pint with Churchill talking about holding Himmler in British containment cell while the Luftwaffe raid the area.

Terrified of his own bombs,

his own bombs supposedly.

Stalin and he got all all the greasy rocks, and working on the spicy rocks.

No one knows how much is left,

just how much Patton needs to cross the Rhine

Why I think its worth not complaining and studying space bending lasers

>>14856211
vaccines didn't do anything much about diseases, cleanliness is responsbible for it

>>14854129
>>14856211
There are some factors which are known to be consistently correlated with the number of kids you have:
>The number of family deaths.
Obviously someone whose parents and 5 siblings all died of smallpox are going to have more kids than someone whose 5 siblings made it to adulthood and their parents died of old age at 95.
>life satisfaction
People who don't have very satisfying lives have more kids. Someone who works a shitty factory job is gonna have more kids than someone who works a comfy do-nothing job. Essentially if people live a horrible existence, they're probably gonna have kids to "fill the void" so to speak.
>intelligence
No explanation necessary
>deleterious genetic load
This one is important. Deleterious genetic load can cause a fuck ton of nasty shit like autoimmune diseases. People with autoimmune diseases or genetically abnormalities of any kind have fewer kids naturally. All populations outside of Africa have a proportionally higher amount of deleterious DNA than inside Africa due to many reasons.

>>14855893
>below replacement level
>>14855893
So when will your government start importing people from abroad? I guess 100 million per years would be acceptable to the European intellectual elite.

The main reason is that in modern, urbanised industrial society, children have a massive opportunity cost.
Raising two children not only costs a lot of money directly, but it is likely to detriment your career as well.
It's also generally not the case that children will look after you into old age any more, so that advantage of having children has mostly disappeared.
Obviously at the level of the whole of society, the next generation looks after the elderly, but this is no longer a personal responsibility, it's instead a political question.

It's microplastics in the water

>>14856263
It's a really shitty thing that people ever were forced to have children because they needed child labor to keep their farm working or something. It's unironically a good thing children are costly now, fewer people in shitty loveless marriages having children just because they need labor.

>>14856263
If you defer responsibility for your old age onto the state you get the care home system.
gransparents are better as day care

>>14856263
>Obviously at the level of the whole of society, the next generation looks after the elderly, but this is no longer a personal responsibility, it's instead a political question.

Okay, so I was getting stitches out me leg in the hospital the other day.

and upon the black screen was this mental health info sign that snuck in 'living with parents' as one of the depression symptoms.

I be living either with roommates or on me own for the last 8 years right, but moved back in with me parents long side a small garden and orchard here for ye pandemic thinking it wise to stay closer to home stead of renting. Got a work from home gig which made it easier i suppose.

Now if this winter be fine, I be wondering if I am even to bother to go back to that way of life. Why get over exposed to the housing market anyways cause the family already has property or property obligations, i can do other investments. Its so much more monetarily efficient, and it makes everyones lives easier. Now I'm single but I dont see why I wouldn't want to add a gf to that.

With a foot in and out of the city it makes it hard to commit one way or the other. But it would be nice not to be stereotyped as 'mentally ill' for seeing the value in this way of life.

>>14854129
You are a fucking idiot.

Most porn is consumed by men
Women are the ones that give birth
For a decline in fertility to be caused by men watching pornography you would need a society in which men willing to fuck and impregnate women are becoming less common because so many of them are satisfied with just porn. Look outside, do you see women fighting each other over available men? Are dating sites now full of mostly desperately horny women or is it still the other way around? On top of that, if this was being caused by an increased consumption of porn you would see this sudden drop back in the late 90s as internet porn became ubiquitous, not in the middle of the 2000s.
Come on OP. Think for a second.

>>14854129

>>14856121
>Here's something you really need to ask yourself: How could you know that if you don't know the limit of technology and science? If you don't know where the limits are, you have no idea if it can even plateau in the long term. This was the mistake of Malthus, and everyone before and after him doing the same thing.
This is some major copium. You're literally praying science is going to save you from basic math.

Is jews the reason for the porn all over the developed world?

>>14856440
No, jews want you to not watch porn and stop wasting seed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot9qSqkphgs

Some jews are wicked and righteous jews know that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdtKJxVF4dI

>>14856542
Yet jews own most porn companies?

>>14854129
>porn creates conditions where men's brains are tricked into believing they can breed with women who are genetically superior to them
LOL!

INSTANTLY debunked by pic related

Most women in porn are of average attractiveness or below. If you don't think they are then it's because you're like a 3/10. Porn is fake. They select for acting ability, not attractiveness. The actually top attractive women don't need to do porn because their looks stand for themselves. They do Instagram modeling if they are going to be selling their bodies.

Porn is a scapegoat. Outside of addicts, porn is inconsequential to the lives of most. You were probably sheltered or grew up in a society that shames natural things like the nude human body and sexuality. Grow up and take your anti-porn agenda back to /pol/ and /r/nofap.

>>14854129
>Think about it, porn creates conditions where men's brains are tricked into believing they can breed with women who are genetically superior to them, so they have these same standards for women in real life and the vast majority of men end up never breeding with anyone because of this.
I think it's just because it wastes your time. It's easier to get your coomy in front of a coomputer screen rather than going out and chasing it and if that's good enough for you for whatever reason then you won't breed.

>>14856376
>do you see women fighting each other over available men? Are dating sites now full of mostly desperately horny women or is it still the other way around?
Holy shit OP ripped to shreds. Good post anon.

>>14856548
>Yet jews own most porn companies?
Like I said there are wicked jews and righteous jews like it happens in every group of people

You should hear the righteous rabbis and stop wasting seed, not looking at any immodest woman, etc

>>14854129
>Is porn the reason for the low fertility rates all over the developed world?

NO.
Prostitution was EVERYWHERE in ancient Rome, but people still had decent sized families.
The reason families are small is because women are NOT breeding in their teens and twenties.
Young women are actively encouraged by society to NOT have children when they are young, but instead to be economically productive.
PORN is not the problem, society pushing women to prefer becoming a worker over being a mother is the problem.

>>14856648
>Young women are actively encouraged by society to NOT have children when they are young, but instead to be economically productive.
Thankfully the religious are realizing this and are going the opposite direction. I've seen some pretty decently sized youtube channels spreading this message that women should be homemakers and have children before 25

>>14856612
so you're a war type jew, got it

>>14856376
>do you see women fighting each other over available men? Are dating sites now full of mostly desperately horny women
Yes, and yes, but only for the 0.1 percent top dudes with 1 million plus income.

Sex market isn't a democracy. At some point if you aren't in the top 1% you realize it is just too much work or effort to even setup a date. Way easier to pay an escort or just jerk off in your room.

>>14854129
Sure. It's the men being picky.

It's not all of the systems in place that allow women to be "independent".
Welfare has replaced a providing husband.
Law enforcement has replaced a protective husband.
Affirmative action has given women an advantage in careers.
Internet hookups/dating have given women so many options that they suffer from overchoice or analysis paralysis.
Women have the option to freeze their eggs and procrastinate breeding.
Even in relationships, women have independence in the form of alimony and child support.

If anything it is women's "independence" that is preventing women from settling and preventing men from being secure in the relationships.

The innate tastes/instincts of men allows them to still adequately pair-bond even if they have "independence".
The innate tastes/instincts of women don't allow them to adequately pair-bond if they have "independence".

>>14857131
pretty much this

>>14857131
>Internet hookups/dating have given women so many options that they suffer from overchoice or analysis paralysis.
Also don't underestimate this in relation to cheating. Imagine wanting to be in a relationship when cheating is literally one click away.

>>14857161
And with women naturally predisposed to hypergamy, the urge to seek something "better" is essentially wired into them.

>>14857187

The insanity of women.
They are NEVER satisfied with what they have.
Almost all divorces are instigated by women.

>>14856918
Dating sites are NOT mostly women. You're on crack.

Raising children is part of a long line of life milestones on a path that is basically encouraged by economic incentives and pushed by social norms.
The response to the GFC was to create gigantic asset bubbles as part of a deliberate plan to create a "wealth effect". This was at the benefit of those currently alive and with major assets, Boomers, and at the expense of everyone after them.
Education is now required for most occupations, the lifetime careers at companies have been slowly eroded over time, people are dating at older ages, and thus the conditions for starting a family have been created "incentives" to have fewer children and at older ages.
TLDR: Boomers fucked it all up because they are literally incapable of being personally responsible.

The least we can do is legalize prostitution and brothels in all 50 states. There should be an organized grassroots movement to meet that goal in all jurisdictions. All men should have the right to pay for sex with beautiful women. Every guy with a healthy sex drive wants to have sex with hot chicks. Sexually explicit material is thrown everywhere, including movies, music, videogames, books, social media, etc. When a guy who is not having sex sees this shit, he becomes very demoralized and frustrated. It would also lower the pedestal that pussy currently sits on. If prostitution is legalized, any guy can have sex with gorgeous women without any drama. This would lower the value of females looking for a relationship and essentially help curb hypergamy. Even chads would take advantage of buying sexual services because no sane man wants to deal with some annoying cunt with a hyperinflated ego if there are other ways to having sex.

Currently New York is considering the decriminalization of prostitution with Senate Bill S3075. If you live in NY, call your local lawmakers and let them know you support the bill.

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/S3075

>>14857131
You're forgetting abortion, so even if they do get pregnant by chad or brad or whoever they can feel remorse that it's going to get in their way of partying or career and just delete it

>>14854129
Would YOU be happy to fuck an overweight piggy and spend your life together? Of course not. Porn has nothing to do with it - the core problem is that most women are disgusting.

>>14857503
>The least we can do is legalize prostitution and brothels in all 50 states. There should be an organized grassroots movement to meet that goal in all jurisdictions. All men should have the right to pay for sex with beautiful women. Every guy with a healthy sex drive wants to have sex with hot chicks. Sexually explicit material is thrown everywhere, including movies, music, videogames, books, social media, etc. When a guy who is not having sex sees this shit, he becomes very demoralized and frustrated. It would also lower the pedestal that pussy currently sits on. If prostitution is legalized, any guy can have sex with gorgeous women without any drama. This would lower the value of females looking for a relationship and essentially help curb hypergamy. Even chads would take advantage of buying sexual services because no sane man wants to deal with some annoying cunt with a hyperinflated ego if there are other ways to having sex.
I couldn't agree more with this. Legalizing prostitution is the only sane way to even the sex market for men.

>>14857518
At least previous generation women knew basic home making skills and had some killer recipes haded down from their mother.

>>14857503
>Currently New York is considering the decriminalization of prostitution
Usually that means it is legal to sell but not legal to buy. Men still go to jail but the prostitute has no culpability.

>>14857531
That specific bill also decriminalizes buying. The problem is that the NY state legislature is also debating another bill which would only decriminalize selling and follow the so-called Nordic model like you described.

>ressource abundance is dissolving norms that kept ancient farming societies alive
>this means returning to animalistic tendencies
>this means women now select for traits needed 20k years ago
>many women pr. High value men
>laws and contraceptives makes these men select very few women to bear their children
>the least intelligent don't understand laws and contraceptives
So low birthrate except in people who act more instinctively.

>>14857518
>Almost 80% of men and women are fat
What the fuck are people doing? This is embarassing.

>>14854129
>Is porn the reason for the low fertility rates all over the developed world?
In south korea porn is illegal and actually rare, yet they are the worst.

What is the difference between amish and very religious people? Amish fertility is ~3 times higher.

>>14854780
This is the only correct answer

>>14857551
1) diet
2) inactivity
3) stress
4) Polyunsaturated seed oils
5) EMF from the electrical grid fucking with mitochondria behaviour and energy storage

>>14856356
That should be “living with abusive good for nothing cunt brained boomer parents” , many such cases. If your parents provide a good environment then you’re probably a functioning member of society and not depressed.

>>14857503
This will not increase fertility rates, it will increase separatism. You're not going to have legalized prostitution without legalized abortion, at least not without severe consequences.

>>14857545
Buying sex should be legal, but selling it should be a felony. Punish women and they'll make better decisions.

>>14857566
retard

>>14857503
>to pay for sex with beautiful women
Ay lmao, imagine paying money to someone that loathes you and is mentally broken.

>>14857566

SLEEP!
MOST adult Americans are sleep deprived.
Your metabolism is screwed up by lack of sleep.
In our constantly connected world people spend valuable evening hours on the Internet and NOT sleeping.
Lack of sleep will make you unhealthy and FAT.

>>14857503
>>14857615
Whores aren’t beautiful, they’re usually old and have raspy voices from all the smoking

>>14857627
Why you tag me retard?

>college whores are really common in many countries, 18yo fucking for money

>>14856281
I've kind of wondered how it would be if you married at the discretion of your parents (dads were friends, somebody owes a favor, etc) and kids were produced entirely pragmatically: you don't deal with questions of love or passion, those are almost foreign concepts. Everything becomes simpler because it's part of a well understood arrangement. it also seems purer in a way, chaste. I guess I'm not sure it's that bad.

>>14857645
It's usually more fulfilling for both parties rather than the expectation of "true love" that's produced in a Hollywood sound stage.

>marry woman
>have half (or more) of your money stolen

>>14857670
"no-fault" divorce was the second big blow to society after universal suffrage.

>>14857670
How is it even legal? shit makes no sense

>>14857627
That has not been my experience at all when visiting the brothels in Switzerland.

>>14857761
american whores are garbage, european and asian whores are good
t. whore autodidact

>>14854129
Plastic waste and pollution in general. So much of the toxic shit we eat/drink/breathe affects us.

>>14857928
t.
Also the incels in this thread better have sex.

>>14854866
Fucking retard. Boomers have the money, the actual fertile generation (millennials and zoomers) are struggling in developed countries. Have you seen what rent is like lately? Have you seen house prices? Gas?

>>14858131
The middle class breed faster than the rich, and the poor breed faster than the middle class, so this does not bare out.

>>14858213
The middle class in places like the US are going to have as many kids as the rich. 1-3 kids generally. Anything outside of that is just child neglect.

>>14857315
These are just my own observations, including women going off the edge in tems of age and value proposition. And yes, they get desperate. One even approached me, which takes a lot of desperation (let us just say that people will never confuse me with George Clooney). Fortunately I already knew she had mental issues in addition to upper double digit past men.
Another women told me what her world was like, all women wanted a handful men who knew they were so attractive that they changed girlfriends faster then other change shirts.

>>14854129
Hey OP can we get some more information on this data?
https://petersweden.substack.com/p/excess-mortality-rate
https://nitter.net/PeterSweden7/status/1570846320726016001#m

>>14854704
>men who can regularly have sex barely ever watch it
Not true at all.

>>14854142
fpbp

>>14854704
>men who can regularly have sex barely ever watch it

L 0 L

>>14856575
>You were probably sheltered or grew up in a society that shames natural things like the nude human body and sexuality

yeah that stuff is fine. can you send me pictures of your mom choking on a dildo since it's nbd? thanks bro

>>14857555
South Korea has state sanctioned porn in the form of kpop.

>>14860400
Hey retard, SK have the lowerst fertility rate since way before the music-sluts got popular.

Somebody translate this to dummy language

http://www.sexarchive.info/BIB/kohl.htm

>>14854907
>It's a bubble, anon. Inflation doesn't make you rich.
>Thinks I entered the markets recently
Landlet and stocklet cope and seethe is amazing

>>14854129
Low fertility is due to human women being completely insane, if you are not facially 7/10 and above you wont be given a chance on any dating app or cold approach either this means only a minority of men are "dating material" to this completely deranged sex that constantly lies about facial looks not being the reason they left swiped your 6'3 ass in seconds.

Nope. It's women in the workplace. There are less stay at home/part time moms now, but where they exist they're still popping out a bunch of babies.

Women are either engaged with their careers or their natural career (birthing/raising children).

>>14854129
No. Men are waking up and realizing that dating in today's culture is stupid. The Internet exposed them to information their parents didn't have, and because men are independent they realized they can be happy with video games instead of a nagging bitch.

>>14854142
Holy based.

>>14862429
This is mainly a western problem.
Around here, many men go to SEA to find a wife.

A lot of great input in this thread.

One thing I'd like to add is the fact that a lot of men start balding before they can find a partner. I don't know how big of a factor it is in the grand scheme of all things, but it's noteworthy to mention that the average age a man got married back in the 1960s was around 21. Nowadays it's around 30 so you see a shit load of balding men struggling to find a mate because most women find balding men repulsive.

>>14864374
>science has taken us to the moon
>still can’t cure balding

>>14864374
>>14864522
fucking unreal

>>14864522
Technically it has, but stem cell hair implants are not cheap.

>>14864374
baldness is a characteristic of mature adult human males, the women who tell you they find it unattractive are either lying or homosexuals, saying that baldness is unattractive is like saying that penises are unattractive.

>>14864522
>science has taken us to the moon
imagine unironically believing this

>>14854129
the economy is a huge part of it

>>14865601
This is maximum cope. Balding looks like shit in most cases. It's the male wall.

>>14865656
this. I'm like an NW6 and losing my hair has completely destroyed my dating life. I look ugly with a shaved head and I look goofy and old if I grow out my hair.

i honestly sometimes regret not ever going on finasteride even though I have some serious concerns with the suppression of neurosteroids that drug causes

>>14865717
No, don't get on finasteride or any of that other shit that feminizes men. You're going to have to figure out a way to embrace it. You can make it work, but it's going to take some effort. Women that have hit the wall make it work, it's about all around appeal

>>14854866
>Complete nonsense. White people have never been wealthier than they are today.
sure dude you can totally own a house, 2 cars and get your 2 kids through college on a one income blue collar job nowadays like you could in the 50s and 60s.
Keep living in your fantasy world retard.

>>14866253
I don't think that two cars is actually part of that 50s and 60s aesthetic. My greatest generation grandmother never even learned to drive.
And anyways, yes, you absolutely can own a house, one car, and get your two (three in my case) kids through college on one income blue collar nowadays, because if you have only one blue collar income your family qualifies for welfare.