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Is it possoble to understand God through math?

>> No.14846232

Of course. Mathematical constants are a perfect example of God, since they show how the universe is structured on a very fundamental level. Pi, e, Planck's constant, all are examples of how nature must work in perfect harmony or else the whole system collapses. What else could create such perfect design, except God?

>> No.14846534

>>14846188
Nope. Faith is a requirement for comprehending religion/god, the moment you attempt to derive proofs you have robbed yourself of legitimate spirituality.

>> No.14846538

>>14846188
Unanswerable question.

>> No.14846581

No

>> No.14846604

>>14846188
isn't there some hillbilly genius with like a record level IQ thats spent his life trying to prove God through math? Im trying to remember his name

>> No.14846611

>>14846604
Christopher Langan?

>> No.14846613

>>14846611
yea that guy

>> No.14846640

>>14846188
depends how you define God
However it's obvious religionfags would despair if the "creator" of all existence was discovered to be nonsentient and axiomatic
I believe that God is the base axiom from which existence emerged
Therefore mathematics doesn't only help to understand God, mathematics is God

>> No.14846679

>>14846640
just another way god gaslights himself about his own non existence
newsflash: god typed that post this post and every other post

>> No.14846692

>>14846679
it was me who typed all of the posts, actually

>> No.14846693

>>14846232
>What else could create such perfect design, except God?
Let's brainstorm and slightly find out
Do you have an email address?

>> No.14846699

>>14846232
>how nature must work in perfect harmony or else the whole system collapses
And what happens when the whole system collapses? Would we be here to observe it? No, we can only observe it working. To say that it works is a tautology. Of course it works. It has to work for you to say that.

>> No.14846703

>>14846679
that's my actual mentality
everything in existence is a part of, or emerging from "god"
so merely living life is connecting with god and everything else
sounds very new age but i can't come to another conclusion
the function of science is to merely close in on the specifics of God
this viewpoint is more familiarly called "deism"

>>14846692
solipsism is real????

>> No.14846718

>>14846703
Not that anon but it’s deism and it’s not new - it’s old.

>> No.14846723

>>14846718
Sorry I meant pantheism, not deism.

>> No.14846726

>>14846640
>I believe that God is the base axiom from which existence emerged
Is there even any room for believe since math is an translation
a2+b2=c2 was there before it was translated etc.

>> No.14846731

>>14846188
Hello, maggots.
I come to deliver a better attempt at an answer than the shit you have written so far.
God, if defined as usual by modern westerners who hold judeo-christian beliefs, cannot be understood in any form, for the concept of God defines a being that transcends logic and reasoning.
You cannot understand God through math or through any other way, at all. You cannot disprove or prove his existence either, by definition.
No, faith does not enable you to comprehend God, I know one of you fags wrote this.
No, mathematics as perceived by humans in nature is no understanding of divinity, any more than 2+2 = 4 is.
>>14846640
> depends how you define God
> *** some bs im not copying ***
> Therefore mathematics doesn't only help to understand God, mathematics is God
this guy almost had it then went full schizo retard.
Goodbye maggots. I do hope you learend something

>> No.14846733

>>14846232
>they show how the universe is structured on a very fundamental level
No, they just show the number system is fundamentally structured and that its structure has weaknesses and imperfections that lead to infinitely complex constants that can never actually be calculated using the number system.

>> No.14847183

>>14846731
>of God defines a being that transcends logic and reasoning.
*our logic and reasoning
The way I see it whatever "God" truly is cannot be comprehended by human minds, not using math or computers or anything else. Doesn't make him any less real.

>> No.14847488

>>14846188
Not with our math, mathematicians barely care or can define a living being

>> No.14847726

>>14846232
>irrational numbers
>perfect design

>> No.14847739

>>14846188
It'll be a lot more to say what people understand with English and makes it no more clear to anybody

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>>14846188
god=0

>> No.14848125

>>14846534
>listen and believe
drooler

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>>14846679

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14848134

>>14847750
god = 9, 9 and zero are the same point however because god is a circle and where starts and where it ends are the same point

>> No.14848135

>>14846188
No. Maths is a creation of mankind, so how should the creation of a creator ever be comparable to the Creator? In addition to all of this, maths is utterly unable to grasp reality, with things like 1/3, pi, root square of 2 unable to exist in maths but existing in reality.

>> No.14848138

>>14848134
to better explain, there is no zero because zero would be is just a flux. Zero isnt real, it is just a human construct based on our limited ability to observe anything beyond the 3rd dimension

>> No.14848225

>>14846534
The (probably unoriginal) thought occurred to me the other day that the story of Adam and Eve eating fruit from the Tree of Knowledge and consequently being expelled from the Garden of Eden might represent humanity's development of the capacity to justify their beliefs, and the resulting transformation from living in the eternal present to being capable of planning for the future. The idea that to know God requires faith, the renunciation of justification, would seem to support that idea.

>> No.14848247

>>14846188
>sandnigger schizo wrote something two milleniums ago and now other schizos waste their brainpower believing what the original schizo wrote is in any way relevant

mentally ill idiots flock to each other I ugess

>> No.14848252

>>14848247
>low IQ moron who can only think of Christcuckery when people discuss the creator acts like he is smarter than everyone else
all so tiresome etc etc

>> No.14848265

>>14848225
>le adam and eve!!
that dogshit story is not any more legitimate than some dumb story some buttnaked tribe in the jungle has about the world creation
what you wrote is just some shizo dribble, you are not in any way deep or insightful, in the future you will be embarrassed that you used to write crap like that online

>>14848252
I am thinking of christuckery since christcucks like to parade a few "sacred cows" around like that thomas
>WOW LOOK AT ME I QUOTED LE THOMAS QUOTE I AM SO LE SMART AND PHILOSOPHICK!!!


> he is smarter than everyone else
all so tiresome etc etc
I am by virtue of simply not wasting any time legitimizing mental illness, go debate the nature of the trinity on /lit/ like the functional idiot you are

>> No.14848273

>>14848265
Thomas Aquinas wasnt a sandnigger he was Italian you mouth breathing retard and no one debating the trinity (which no Christian can ever truly understand because their shit is nigger tier retarded and they dont understand the math and science this was all originally based on). Go be stupid somewhere else

>> No.14848279

>>14848265
>that dogshit story is not any more legitimate
Never said it was true, dumbass.
>in the future you will be embarrassed
Child, I am probably old enough to be your father.

>> No.14848284

>>14848279
you still care about sandnigger fairytales that have no relevancy to you or the world around you, your age hasn't brought you anything more above me

>> No.14848294

>>14848284
you are a stone cold retard who cant even have an original thought because all you understand are memes. I imagine 99% of humanity is above you

>> No.14848295

>>14848284
you are the worst kind of retard, an idiot that has no idea he is an idiot and in fact fancies himself to be smart

>> No.14848297

>>14848284
>no relevancy to you or the world around you
Incorrect. As a parent and educator, epistemology is extremely relevant to my day-to-day life.

>> No.14848310

>>14848294
none of the crap you "religious" retards peddle has any relevancy or any usefulness
for millenias you idiots debated the same tired crap from start to end, and for more millenias other rejects and maladjusted men will waste their youth and energy thinking any of this nonsense actually has any importance
At the end of the day I don't care, the schizos are attracted to magical thinking like moths to light. The same way a dog feels the need to sniff his ass so is a certain percentage of humanity compelled to obsess about paranormal magical tales when they could do something way more relevant like taking out the garbage or ironing their shirts for once
I don't care about proving that you are wrong, you and people like you are at their base level truly sick in the head
take a step back and actually read the OP pic, the only thing you can say about it is that it is hilariously idiotic and pathological for someone to think like this

>>14848295
just read what I wrote above, it applies to you as well
there literally isn't any meaning or worth in the garbage you obsess over

>>14848297
don't barge in the convo if you don't have something better to add to the convo
>ugh in every day life I sniff my farts around and pretend kids care about it!

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>>14848310
>don't barge into the convo
You replied to me, dumbass.

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>>14848310
>wall of text of retarded ramblings
nah think I will pass bruh

>> No.14848345

>>14848329
>>wall of text of retarded ramblings
kinda like the bible or whatever some guy name Thomas Aquinas wrote