/sci/ - Science & Math

>>14844279
kek

https://spacenews.com/artemis-1-launch-plans-slip-again/
>In an update late Sept. 12 [...] NASA said it dropped plans [for] a Sept. 23 launch. The agency said that [the] date was no linger feasible after delaying a tanking test to confirm the new seals are working properly from Sept. 17 to Sept. 21.
>The earliest launch opportunity is Sept. 27, NASA said, with a potential backup launch date of Oct. 2.
>That backup date remains under review as the agency continues to plan to launch a new crew to the ISS on SpaceX's Crew-5 commercial crew mission on Oct. 3.

>>14844299
FTS Archive
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KCJBL632oieD1r6JOh_5Eg9NTcf_-hH8?usp=sharing

>https://spacenews.com/white-house-requests-proposals-for-regulating-novel-commercial-space-activities/
Biden admin wants to regulate commercial space

>>14844312
nooooooooooooooooo you can't do that it's uncuckstitutional elon do something!!!!111

>>14844312
Might not be a bad thing.

>>14844326

>>14844326
Expansion of power is always bad.

So when will we find out who won the second HLS word?

>>14844367
SpaceX was literally the only one capable of meeting the requirements. They won it via all other parties being disqualified due to incapability.

>>14844371
The funniest part was the Dynetics lander was too fat to lift itself off.
But I bet that all participants will revise their projects for the second round. My hope is that LM pitches its own design.

>>14844371
I feel like this sort of thing could backfire on SpaceX if one of the other competitors sues NASA for "designing a contract that only a specific party could win"

>>14844378
>if one of the other competitors sues NASA
Did you just wake up from a coma? That happened and the judge told them to fuck off.

It turns out that Bill is our guy

>>14844371
It still keeps me up at night how SpaceX is singlehandedly pushing the frontier of human spaceflight, and how bad everything would be if they didn't exist. Imagine if that final Falcon 1 flight failed and SpaceX went bankrupt. Americans would still need to hitch rides on the Soyuz, a Moon landing on the National Team lander would be planned for 2040, and Mars never ever. Too much history hinges on that single fateful launch. It freaks me out.

>>14844377
alpaca is fat, FAT

>>14844399
you will never go to space, regardless

>>14844367
it’s gonna be dynetics

>>14844399
In Nasuverse terms, SpaceX is a Time Lock on par with WW2 or the fall of Camelot. It's too critical to human history to not happen, and so it did.

>>14844304
lmao

>>14844489
Wow, Starship has been delayed a lot. Kinda makes it feel like a scam, no?

>>14844493
Space is hard

>>14844493
What a retard, that picture shows SLS delays.

>>14844550
Elon does it because he lies, NASA does it because they're honest

>>14844550
Woosh

>>14844299
God speed little buddy.

>>14844305
Found an article on Hubble from a Polish newspaper from the 90's
Hopefully it survived google translate without being too mangled


Two stars from heaven

The Hubble Space Telescope has started its work. On Sunday, it sent the first test photos to Earth. The scientists gathered at the NASA center were delighted. The photos turned out to be twice as sharp as expected.
The joy was all the greater as bad luck had haunted the entire program so far. At first, the launch was delayed almost indefinitely. Then, on the 25th of April, the space shuttle "Discovery" put the telescope in an orbit of 610 kilometers, the hatch protecting the sensitive optical system jammed, and then the guidance system failed.
The troubles are over. The first pictures of a binary star in the constellation of Carina have arrived to Earth from 1,260 lightyears away. Observed by comparable telescopes from Earth, it looks like a single light source.
The telescope will be ready for normal operation within a few months. Until then, its optical system will be sharpened even further - the photos are to be seven times more accurate than the trial ones.
The success of the first transmission increased the appetite. Scientists hope to reach 16 billion years into the past of the universe, that is, to observe objects that are light years away. There is also a chance to spot planets outside the solar system. This would be crucial to studying the possibility of life beyond Earth.

>>14844661
>The troubles are over.

>>14844666
Satan pls, optimism was their only crime

Berger postscanother article about ULA missing its engines.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/09/as-summer-turns-to-fall-ula-still-waiting-for-its-be-4-rocket-engines/

>Lunar company Astrobotic confirms the acquisition of bankrupt Masten Space, saying operations will continue at the latter’s facility in Mojave, as well as development of the Xogdor rocket
https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1569691353298132994

>>14844304
>>14844489
>Y-yes senator administrator Nelson, we understand, b-but the checklists will take time and the diversity hires are complaining about...
>*muffled shouting*
>You're entire career... of course senator-administrator... I'm sorry senator-administrator-astronaut Nelson
>I-I'm sorry sir but September is impossible... if we could roll it back to the VAB... the 27th? but that's ... I'll try... No sir I don't want to be fired...

>>14844489

>>14844779
>Proof that timelines are made up
Really amazing that the Days to Launch has remained so constant.

>inb4 SLS actually falls apart on the pad

>>14844778
>current state of /sfg/

YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP HAHAHA

>SpaceX’s Tom Ochinero: trying to get to a little over 60 launches this year, and 100 next year. Includes 6 Falcon Heavy launches in next 12 months.

>>14844915
forgot pic

>>14844919
kek he's never getting to orbit

>>14844910
space fags will be space fags

Could they launch crew 5 from Vandenberg?

Edward's AFB is 160 miles due east. Slap down a pad and let the booster land there. Fort Irwin is 230 miles. 29 palms is 260 miles. 330-350 miles is empty desert before lake Havasu.

The Falcon is reliable enough that it should be allowed to launch over populated areas. Dragon could be programmed to fire the super dracos before an abort landing over ground.

>>14844919
C'mon Jeff, don't be so sore, can't you get it up? It's not too hard if you try, hehe.

Good morning, /sfg/. Any cool space-related things happening today?

>>14844962
Be-4 delayed again (too bad tory)
sls will launch on Sept 27 at the earliest
ntsb among other agencies want more regulation for 'novel commercial space activities'
more confirmation that jeff hates elon

>>14844661
I didn't knew that plain google translate can do so well in translation. Only thing I could pinpoint is to change heaven to sky in the title. 'niebo' is single word for sky/skies but also for heaven

>>14844972
>more confirmation that jeff hates elon
What now?

>>14844975
DIDN'T YOU SEE TWITTER?????

>>14844985
Been offline for the last 2 weeks on vacation. Pretty much completely unplugged.

>>14845107
You haven't missed much. The queen died; there's a king now. That's pretty much it.

>>14845174
Oh she (he) finally transitioned? About damned time.

>>14845215
From living to dead. It was a rather abrupt transition.

>>14845174
Queen of /sfg/?

>>14845221
Certainly not an unexpected one, at least.

When is she launch? when it my cutie launchun?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_Clipper#Launch_and_trajectory
>The SLS option would have entailed a direct trajectory to Jupiter taking less than three years. One alternative to the direct trajectory was identified as using a commercial rocket such as a Falcon Heavy, with a longer 6-year cruise time involving gravity assist maneuvers at Venus, Earth and/or Mars.
I'm still glad that FH got chosen for Europa Clipper, but I wonder how much faster interplanetary missions will be when we get better big rockets like Starship. 3 years for a Jupiter mission to arrive would be amazingly fast.

>>14845333
Not much, unless you have a kickstage.

https://twitter.com/Dr_ThomasZ/status/1569730239139385351
Thomas Zurbuchen is resigning from NASA :(

>>14845358
Tell the brainlets who he is.

>>14844299
how the hell is this webm so big, long and so good quality with only 2.54 MB?

>>14845363
he is many things but most importantly he promoted newspace a lot

Ayyy's over ukraine
https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkg3nb/ukraines-astronomers-say-there-are-tons-of-ufos-over-kyiv

>>14845366
very little difference between frames? still very impressive

>>14845375
Everything flying is unidentified when your radar systems are smoking rubble.

>>14845333
>>14845349
SLS with a real upper stage + kickstage for fast outer planets is like, the singular, individual, sole use case where it might not be utter dogshit compared to the rest of the market.

The cost of Orion alone could pay for one hundred and forty-three expendable Falcon Heavy launches. Each SLS launch accounts for twenty-seven fully expended Falcon Heavy launches.

>>14845366
You can get good quality now that vp9 support is enabled

>>14845333
Depots. Depots are the key to interstellar missions. Imagine if we could send a fucking huge array of scientific instruments and not a pathetic cuckbox that's been bogged down because of weight constraints.

>>14845391
And what is a depot?

>>14845391
Interstellar isn't gonna happen in a reasonable timeframe with (current) onboard propulsion. It's just not feasible. We'd need really really really good nuclear propulsion for it to be even worth thinking about.

>>14845399
Interstellar isn't gonna happen, period

>>14845366
I used VP9, and most of the frame is just the blue background of the sky.

>>14845380
Why does /sfg/ have so many retarded russian posters?

>>14845375
>https://arxiv.org/pdf/2208.11215.pdf

This is pretty interesting to be honest lads

>>14845409
Because the Soviet Union had a fairly impressive space program, and desperately riding their coattails is one of the few things that Russia can still do to try and pretend that they're a first world country.

>>14845402
this

>>14845402
True, and an aeroplane is just a stupid gimmick with no future.

>>14845402
>>14845420
We WILL send a mission to Proxima Centauri and there is literally nothing you can do about it. I am recording your post numbers and I will make fun of you mercilessly on the day it launches. Begin mentally preparing yourselves for the humiliation now.

>>14845432
xDDDDDD

>>14845432
Explain how.

Skyroot Aerospace raises $50M
Agnikul raises $20M
Its a great time to be in the indian aerospace sector..

>>14845434
Warp drives.

>>14845433
Fuck you

>>14845434
Big laser
>but that's not how-
BIG laser. I will not elaborate.

>>14845375
>“The eye does not fix phenomena lasting less than one-tenth of a second,” the paper said. “It takes four-tenths of a second to recognize an event.
Literally from pic related wtf is going on

>>14845442
HILARIOUS and BASED post XDD

>>14845439
For context, Engineer salaries are one of the biggest expense of space companies.
In India $20k per year is considered a really good salary. With this $50M they can easily hire the smartest kids from the top colleges here.
Competition is back on the menu boys.

>>14845402
Idk anon, Breakthrough Starshot has promise

>>14845473
Why do fags keep portraying space backgrounds as full of stars? We will rarely see the sky like this, it should be pitch black.

>>14845481
Artistic licence? Making the image more interesting for normies?

>>14845481
>We will rarely see the sky like this, it should be pitch black.
You disgusting fucking earther filth don't see the sky like that. Every image I post of space will be beautiful and unobscured by atmosphere and light pollution so help me god.

>>14845483
>earther
BASED xDDDDDDD

>>14845481
>nooo space must be portrayed how our eyes and brain perceive it, not how it actually is

Fucking brainlet

>>14845487
Streetlights are ontologically evil, there is no act that could be committed against a streetlight that would be considered immoral.

>>14845498
haha, so randumb :p

>>14845482
>>14845483
>>14845488
If we create false expectations to normies we will need to keep put up with the whole "b-but where are all the stars in this space photo? NASA is lying to us!!!!! Space is fake!!!!"

So Elon Musk has a new occupation.
How will this affect Spacex?

>>14845443
They're hiding in our saccades.

>>14845511
Biggus Diggus launch in 2 weeks still planned.

>>14845501
>normies
if you think space is real, you're the normie

>>14845511
It's a Monty Python reference

>>14845501
Why ever bother to cater to retards who don't know what exposure is? You can see stars when you're in space, your eyes are not a camera. The only reason people think this is because the lunar surface is eye searingly bright, so you can't effectively photograph it without exposing so quickly that the stars aren't visible. On the far side of the moon, and in space, you can see exceptional amounts of stars.
>We will rarely see the sky like this, it should be pitch black.
>If we create false expectations to normies
You talking about "normies" but you are totally wrong. You will see stars in space, you will see stars on the moon. It works the exact same way as it does on earth.

>>14844558
>Elon does it because he lies
He is a severe liar

>>14845521
I think space is real. I've seen it with my own eyes.

>>14845523
>On the far side of the moon,
isn't far side of the moon bright during new moon?

>>14845524
Still more trustworthy than NASA and congress.

>>14845527
why?

>>14845526
Yes, the far side is obviously not perpetually dark.
As I said, it works the exact same way it does on Earth.
>Why can I not see stars during the daytime?!?!?!?
It is a mystery.

>>14845528
SLS

>>14845434
>Explain how
like this

>>14845527
This guy is telling you that in 2020 he will have a starship on Mars and a new Tesla roadster, he is also telling you his car is in orbit around Mars. NASA would never make such statements

>>14845534
Remind me, how many times JWST was delayed?

>>14845530
NASA makes the impossible happen but sometimes with an substantial delay. Half the shit Elon promises never happens

>>14845537
kek

>>14845537
Agree, that grift project shouldn't exist but NASA made it possible.

>>14845523

>>14845523
Have you never seen photos from other planets or from the ISS? You almost never see stars in them. The only times you see some stars is when the photo is taken from or to the night side of a planet or a shadow.
Not seeing stars is the standard for space.

>>14844399
>Americans would still need to hitch rides on the Soyuz, a Moon landing on the National Team lander would be planned for 2040, and Mars never ever.

China would still be colonizing the Moon first and then Mars second.

>>14845537
>Half the shit Elon promises never happens
And the half that happens is always better than everyone else.

>>14845493
>>14845544
all this bickering BTFO by two images

>>14845493
I agree with the point your making, but this is clearly a longer than normal exposure

>>14845552
NASA has gone everyhwere in the solar system
space ex has a car in heliocentric orbit

>>14845409
пpивeт!

>>14845558
spacex will never go all the places nasa sends probes. they will go to the moon and mars that's about it. they just have different objectives

>>14845547
>Why does this photo that is exposed to image an object illuminated by the sun lack stars?
We may never know, it is a mystery of science

>>14845562
>spacex will never go all the places nasa sends probes.
Spacex will go wherever they damm please

>>14845564
Here is the thing: most of the time astronauts and probes will be on the sun illuminated side, like >>14845473 for instance.

Holy shit bros, how did NASA create this image? Space is a blank expanse of blackness, how was this even done? They must have carefully occluded Cassini behind one of Saturn's moons, because that's the only place in space that stars are visible. I can't even imagine the orbital maneuvering this must have taken. Surely there isn't simply a slider in a GUI somewhere that lets you adjust exposure.

>>14845566
yeah and you can be sure they won't care about anything other than mars and what their customers pay for.
just look at tesla, they focused head down on their existing products and are only now starting on the new vehicles.

>>14845534
>he is also telling you his car is in orbit around Mars
It's in orbit around the sun.

>>14845579
congrats. You are less delusional than Elon Musk

>>14845558
SpaceX is a rocket launcher, not a space agency.
Also, SpaceX is from 2002, NASA is from 1958, and they have been lackluster after Apollo.
SpaceX is gonna send a probe to Europa soon, and Starship is planned to be used for interplanetary missions.

>images made for illustrative purposes may mislead dopes
oh no

>>14844438
Famous rocket servants when

>5 ***** [Rider] Falcon 9
>Noble Phantasm: [X Marks the Spot] Deals massive AOE damage as her thrusters and legs land on the enemy, pic related is her pose

>>14845584
meds

>>14845584
go outside anon

they're SO tiny. it's going to look ridiculous on the tower

>>14845588
>>14845590
>hurr rockets/objects can't be servants
Why not? Crazier things have happened in Fate

>>14845591
I sometimes forget the scale of this stuff, insane

>>14845592
>>>/a/

>>14845598
>>>/a/yyyy lmao

>>14845591
Can someone explain that change?

>>14845557
Wow, I wonder what kind of extremely specialized equipment we'll need to bring with us to see stars in space.
>The human eye can detect a luminance from 10−6 cd/m2, or one millionth (0.000001) of a candela per square meter to 108 cd/m2 or one hundred million (100,000,000) candelas per square meter. (that is it has a range of 1014 cd/m2, or one hundred trillion 100,000,000,000,000, about 46.5 f-stops).

>>14845591
the landing on these will be trivial. Remember that F9 now lands like a meter off centre. The superheavy will be better control and the arms will be able to move.

>>14845602
yeah they're only stack arms. no catch arms

>>14845607
>>14845602
>>14845596
>>14845591
Theyre building a second catch tower over at the landing area most likely makes sense desu

>>14845604
oof that's quite the range, better express those on some logarithmic scale

>>14845604
You missed my point

>>14845608
It will probably be shorter too (doesn't have to stack)

>Rome show is underappreciated

>>14845608
You mean LZ-1 and LZ-2?

>>14845619
sure

>>14845615
Aye

>>14845382
Literally just put a relatively cheap kickstage inside Starship's payload bay along with the payload

>>14845604
I assume the Earth is illuminated by Moonlight if we can see stars as well

What is Muskman up to now

>>14845632
Buying twatter

>>14845636
More likely trying to avoid that

so they are building two towers in Florida and both will have shorter catching arms?

>>14845624
Doesn't look like anything is happening there.

>>14845642
we dont know what the second tower will have

Good news MLS and the Cyclone 4M are making progress dispute the war.
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2022/09/mls-spaceport-nova-scotia/

>>14845643
it probably will

>source: me

>>14845642
They are building a second catch tower with longer arms and placing it away from the danger of harming LC-39A around here >>14845643

It will likely also be a shorter tower too

https://twitter.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1569669794697302016

gday

/sfg/ circling the drain

>>14845673

>>14845649
>>14845652
If that's the plan, it's probably far away. They haven't even started the groundwork at the landing site.

>>14845449
ai material simulation/design will create a new generation of high performance components. exponential progress is likely.
https://techxplore.com/news/2022-09-high-speed-motor-power-density-electric.html
The computational power would be immense, but there is no reason this technique cannot be applied to entire rockets.

>>14845685
she can put her headphones on herself you creep

Imagine if SLS gets destroyed by a hurricane

>>14845679
kek

Angara NZh

>>14845375
>>14845412
>15 km/s
Jesus Christ I was gonna say that I'd bet money on this being the USAF doing some field testing of their NGAD prototypes but this is absolutely ridiculous

>>14845707
Probably a weather balloon

>>14845511

>>14845711
could be Jupiter. It has an orbital speed of ~15km/s

>>14845579
If it goes past the orbit of Mars, then back inside, it is technically "going around" Mars.
It is not, however, in orbit around mars.

>>14845695
Nuke it

Nuclear jet propelled lifting bodies.

We can send them to Venus, the giants, and titan.

>>14845605
Won't the raptors and the extra weight of the empty booster also allow it to hover?
That's even more time for the chopsticks to capture it.

>>14845695
Worst case scenario. If SLS is to be destroyed it must be by it's own hands

>>14845695
Does he mean an invest? I have never heard someone call a potential cyclone a wave because it isn't one.

>another starlink launch today

>>14845412
>>14845707
TOTAL SCHIZO VICTORY
SKEPLET DEBOONKERS IN SHAMBLES

>>14845730
Yeah that's what I meant by "will be better control"

>>14845724
i think elon is autistic enough to have meant in an orbit around mars.
still retarded

Wouldn't rocket engines be much simpler if we just premix the propellants. There would have to be some mechanism to prevent flashback though

>>14845752
Mixing room-temperature kerosene and cryogenic liquid oxygen presents some problems.

>>14845738
Then link it, faggot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzWSYJBSAl4

>>14845752
indeed

new hullo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoRp7nRIOpo

>>14845412
>>14845707
>DOD/glowies using hyper-advanced working speculative motion drive tech to image Ukraine war instead of fucking Triton and Titan and Pluto

aaaaaaaaaaaa

>>14844299
Which part of outer space is this? Is it inside an O'Neil cylinder?

How is ESA going to choose astronauts for Artemis?
I guess every country there will want a piece of that pie.

>>14845770
reminder that the highest resolution telescope is owned by the Navy

>>14845592
>>14845584
Rockets and artifacts would be Noble Phantasms. Servants are (usually) people.
>Neil Armstrong
>class: Lancer
>NP: One Giant Leap for Mankind

>>14845793
Doing what it does best, not launching.

>>14845770
>murica has a nifty reactionless drive but it's keeping it under wraps because reasons

>>14845871
To be fair it is what our military always does with its new toys, keep them secret until it's most advantageous to disclose. That or your secret spyplane gets shot down over USSR.
We only learned about the stealth helicopter because the pilot during the Bin Laden raid smashed the tail on a wall, like an idiot.

>>14845875
quieter choppers are not in the same universe as 15 km/s meme drives

>>14845881
Of course, only commenting on the notion of US withholding tech. I'd be incredulous of any claims that we have something capable of flying that fast through the atmosphere without sonic booming the shit out of a whole country.

>>14845776
Probably like always; big boys France and Germany go first, then Italy and then the small ones get some scraps if they're lucky

Funnily enough UK is the 4th largest contributor but they have never had an ESA astronaut

>>14845881
>15 km/s meme drives
wouldn't that generate serious air friction though? and be detectable

>>14845889
actually they've have had one, but that's still way less compared to France/Germany/Italy

>>14845891

>>14845891
We could do it if it weren't for the pesky atmosphere in our way.

>>14845891
yes and big sonic booms if below say 50 km altitude.

>>14845899
Hmmm

>>14845679
>surely October will be the time they finally let us off
>they think to themselves reluctantly

>>14845891

>>14845875
>stealth helicopter
Those are so niche that the only practical missions for them are top secret anyway. I'm pretty sure it was just a standard Black Hawk helicopter with stealth modifications rather than something a full generation ahead of existing models. There was a way more public stealth helicopter program that got cancelled because they realized it was pointless.

Something with as many potential applications as a super fancy reactionless drive would very quickly be used for stuff besides moving spy satellites around in LEO.

>>14845899
Sucks to suck, Earther.

>>14845920
You could use it to build "fuel cells" with suspiciously long life.

So do we have images of the crew capsule of new sheppard after it's wild ride?
Want to see in how many pieces it is.

>>14845705
Angara should be shelved, it sucks

>>14845737
>not using probability waves to predict the weather
http://jmr.cmsjournal.net/en/article/id/68
laughing_girls.png

uhhh

>>14845899
and those stupid laws of physics
time to call your congressman to get them changed

stop him

>>14845965
This but the entire Russian government.

Why does it have a delay of 14 seconds per burn? I feel like of all the torch drive possibilities that are actually in reach, this one is by far the closest.

>>14845920
how do they make the turbine blades stealthy

>>14846018
Limited cooling capacity maybe?

>>14846022
They don't really. There's only so much you can do with a helicopter to make it stealthy and the incremental gains aren't worth it unless you already glow in the dark, so to speak.

diesel vs kerosene vs jet fuel vs rp1 vs paraffin

>>14846083
How about RP-2?

>>14846031
I would figure if they upped the mass flow to something like 2 kg/s that would be enough not only for a very powerful rocket, but a rocket that's open cycle. Perhaps the detonations are happening too close to the rocket?

why does everyone keep falling for the hydrogen meme?
just last week my coworkers were saying they should just pump hydrogen gas through the current natural pipes.

>>14846095
i literally just saw that in my feed lmao

>>14846095
apparently this too would make the pipes brittle

>>14844399
Nah, Elon would have killed Tesla to save SpaceX if that happened I think.

>>14846095
>we will create a huge boom

>>14844661
hey bro, I recommend you use the deepl translator next time, it's really good.

>>14846095
Because hydrogen meme is the goto answer for those who are EV "skeptic". They dont realize the leak issues, energy intensive issue, expensive fueling process, brittleness of tank, etc.

At best, its going to cost 3X as much as EV battery charging does simply because it takes ~3X more energy to make hydrogen from electricity.

Honestly New Shepard having an engine failure isn’t too unexpected. Even Falcon 9 had had engine failures due to reuse. However, Falcon 9 can lose an engine or two.

I was thinking that if the probability of Raptor 2 failing is 10%, Superheavy would probably still do just fine.

>>14846129
Merlins fail quite regularly. SpaceX don't announce these failures, but silently swap engines after the return from the droneships. "Refurbishment" they call it

>>14846136
2/10
Put more effort into your baits, TSLAQ fella

>>14846095
Ignorance, mostly. In energy discussions, it's usually brought up as a storage medium (as opposed to batteries) to make renewable power sources work reliably. To them, it's just a battery with a couple extra steps that seems simple. After all, you're only electrolysis water, to get H2, store the H2, then combust it when ready. However, they don't account for the inefficiencies that compound through the system.

>>14846143
SpaceX swapping Merlins is well known fact, newfaggot asslicker

>Zurbuchen retiring
https://spaceref.com/science-and-exploration/thomas-zurbuchen-transitioning-to-my-next-chapter/
IT'S OVER

>>14845673
I'm really glad that the one where I autistically made them redo the HUD to coincide with the actual flight conditions is the one that gets saved and reposted

How much money is this guy going to escape with after he rugpulls this investment scam

https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7z3yq/this-man-is-trying-to-put-mirrors-in-space-to-generate-solar-power-at-night

>>14846206
Based Titania poster

that AI think is kind of cool

New Chinese Moon rocket.
Thoughts?

>>14846231
They refused to build new launch infrastructure and are going wide instead. How tall is this?

>>14846215
Reminds me of Cowboy Bebop

>>14846231
can’t wait for the next powerpoint slide rocket! Great job Mr. Lehao!

>>14846087
The smart thing to do would be to coat the pellets in water ice. Cheap, abundant, absorbs neutrons.

>>14846205
I imagine refurbishment is a hell of a lot easier if you pull the engine off the rocket

>>14846231
So what? Long March 7x3 with a capsule on top?

https://www.newsweek.com/bill-nelson-nasa-poo-pooed-spacex-elon-musk-artemis-1742085

>>14846231
>we want the starship aesthetic

>>14846262
>nasa and extreme regulation and oversight is a huge boondoggle
Who could have predicted?

>>14846231
It's called CZ-5G by the way.

>>14846243
Couldn't you do that with lithium?

https://thedebrief.org/cosmics-and-phantoms-ukrainian-independent-study-reveals-observations-of-unidentified-aerial-phenomena/

https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkg3nb/ukraines-astronomers-say-there-are-tons-of-ufos-over-kyiv

>>14846278
Water is way more abundant than lithium in space unless we are very wrong about the solar system.

>>14846284
But is that the real reason for the long delay between shots? Or is it due to heat or some other process?

>>14846287
The delay is probably due to recharge time for capacitors.

>>14846231
Falcon Heavy - Made in China

>>14844731
Good timeline honestly. Odd that Astrobotic ever ended up in a position to buy Masten, but Masten's IP should help Astrobotic deliver. Plus I'm surprised Masten's wacky unmanned New Shepard lives another day. I kinda wanna see that fly.

>>14846231
Long march 9, epic
I love china!

>>14846262
>"When there was the beginning of the space cargo and crew [programs], the two serious bidders were SpaceX and Boeing, and everybody poo-pooed SpaceX and said, 'Oh, Boeing is a legacy company,'" Nelson said. "Well, guess who is about to make its sixth flight after its first test flight with astronauts, and guess who's still on the ground?"
BASED BALLAST

>>14846283

>>14846308
holy shit, belongs up there with "he smokes pot"

>>14846289
For what though? It doesn't seem to have a battery of lasers, it just seems to line the fuel with lithium and crush it with a magnet at the end.

>>14846313
For the magnets, retard.
>3km/s crush speed
They're not keeping that charged constantly.

>>14846308
The Senate would be spilling so much spaghetti over Nelson not toeing the line if not for Ukraine and midterms.

>>14845412
>simultaneous dual site observations
that's striking and rules out in camera effects
what the fuck is this shit? if not ayys it might be evidence of weird ball lightning shit

>>14846144
To add onto that, even if one did come up with a cost effective way to electrolyze hydrogen, well going one step further and combining it with atmospheric CO2 to make synthetic methane is not super difficult. And then you get a fuel that is completely backwards compatible with the existing natural gas stuff. I also know SpaceX is going to require this process on Mars for refueling Starship; has anyone seen anything SpaceX has published on it?

muskbros...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIoHZkM-ZJM

https://youtu.be/aIoHZkM-ZJM
Elon's Biggest Lie yet, tune in
-Black Nigga
ps: no im not funded by bezos lol ha

>>14846335
damn bro u are FAST im not deleting my post however

Elon lied. People died.

Starlink launch scrubbed; Electron launch tomorrow delayed as well.

>>14846375
where do u see tonights launch scrubbed?
about to walk down to the beach...

>>14846335
>he’s a theater kid doing bits in wigs
I hope WW3 breaks out we need a hard reset at the hands of nuclear armageddon

>scrubtember in full swing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWRMHY2iJoI

Why is it so annoying to report spambots on twitter? SpaceX tweets are always full of them and the system makes you click on a million fucking options to finally submit anything.

>>14846389
you must learn to simply avoid the replies any time musk or spacex tweets, simple as

>>14846383

>>14846392
just hide the replies with ublock, there's nothing of value there. And you should not be even using twitter in the first place, that shit is bad for your health.

>>14846095
Hydrogen conceptually is pretty cool, hydrogen as a "battery" for storing excess electricity produced by renewables, and coburning it with natural gas makes a lot of sense in a lot of places right now. Hydrogen as an energy dense long term renewable fuel makes a lot of sense as well. Adulthood, however, is realizing you can just bond those pesky hydrogens with carbon or nitrogen to form methane or ammonia which makes it a billion times easier to use and store and just wait to crack it until you need it for something. Of course, methane is undersirable because muh CO2, methalox is much better for rockets where that doesn't matter, but for more pedestrian terrestrial applications cracking and burning ammonia, then capturing or burning or processing the NOx is quite convenient.

>>14846393
Gentlemen, how do we solve the "weather" problem?

>>14846433
Good luck

>>14846426
Simple. Remove the atmosphere.

>>14846433
Novelty fever, you hate to see it

Bites successful startups hard: your rockstars don't give a fuck about incremental improvements and product lifecycles, once whatever they're working on works, they're off to a new project as soon as the contract is up

>>14846444
I don't understand this post given that he worked 12 years there. Doesn't seem to be a case of get in on the action and then bail.
Few people are able to do the same things their entire lives and be happy with it.
It's like faulting Mueller for quitting. He did his share and now the next generation is taking over.

>>14846426
It is time for a Final Solution for the precipitation question

>>14844299
why can't it be the knock off lex luther inside that thing so the world can be free from his evil

Coke Space just lit up all their engines.

At this rate they will get to orbit faster than SLS and Starship

https://twitter.com/stoke_space/status/1569868769153142787?s=20&t=zJe6yOWo-6TB21CyGX2Yow

>>14846476
Really interesting unique engine ring concept they have

>>14846362
The FDA lied. People died.

>>14846444
>rockstars

>>14846335
>>14846337
hivemind

>>14846479
It's a bell aerospike.

>>14846476
they stoked the flames

>>14846479
>Really interesting unique engine ring concept they have
idk it seems highly retarded. look at that fucking pump dangling there. just looks like such a gimmick

>>14846488
it's not an aerospike it's exactly what you see there. confirmed by the company on twitter

https://spacenews.com/esa-seeks-major-funding-increase-at-ministerial/
>The European Space Agency will seek a roughly 25% increase in funding from member states this fall despite economic and geopolitical challenges in Europe.

>In a Sept. 12 speech at the World Satellite Business Week conference, Josef Aschbacher, director general of ESA, said the agency will request more than 18 billion euros ($18 billion) from its members at November’s ministerial meeting, where members will agree to programs and funding levels for the next three years. In a tweet after the speech, he said ESA would request 18.7 billion euros.

pfffffffff they're going to get cuts instead, defense spending is on the rise

>>14846476
Where's the rest of it

>>14846485
His name is Peachman, he's a rockstar

>>14846493
Pathetic.

>>14844683
>october
of 2025 maybe

>>14846489
have we started a fire?

>>14846492
it's a truncated aerospike that can be used as a heat shield when the second stage does its reentry

test post pls ignore

>>14846506
Install xfce.

>>14846502
it's not an aerospike as confirmed by the company on twitter. why do you make stuff up?

>>14846506
damn how'd you fit that much krystal porn in 50 kb??

started watching SENPAI, on ep 3
the feminist crap is lame but the 2 mercury girls are likeable. astrowife needs to stop bitching.

>>14846506
IT niggers writing exams on how to shut off their computer.
really makes you think

>>14846512
It's a way to test all engines at once?

>>14846512
>>14846532
>It's designed to serve a purpose
The purpose is being weapons-grade investor bait I'd imagine.
>Give us a minute and we'll get you caught up.
>it's been 10 months
>we have not been caught up
Hate these faggots already.

>>14846535
10 months? that post is from july of this year.

WHY DON'T WE HAVE FUSION TORCH DRIVES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>14846512
>its designed to serve a purpose

Which is as a heat shield for reentry.

>>14846549
space is hard. also, jews

>>14846549
>>14846556
I hate Earthers.

>>14846535
hydrolox is a nasty cunt to be tangling with, BUT they're not trying to use ailing 80s tech to do it.
i wish them well, we need more all reusable rocket companies. same reason i want terran r to fly.

>>14846543
It's an exaggeration. Instead they post about the latest ex Sneedtheon tranner they hired as COO.

>>14846559
What is an even nastier cunt is keeping the engines from melting during LEO reentry.
What they have is essentially a big capsule, presumably with a ceramic heatshield.

>>14846524
now I'm watching episode four and it didn't even take 1 episode for me to start hating molly. bravo.

>>14846572
From staring at the big ring I'm thinking maybe they could flow a bunch of liquid oxygen through it during reentry to cool it and the engine nozzles.
I don't know about half the holes being covered though. Just missing some engines still?

Will the SLS go on a successful liftoff this time or will it menstruate all over the launchpad again?

>>14846572
They're using a metallic heatshield. The not-an-aerospike is actively cooled which they keep on to manage heating during reentry.

>>14846594
success
3rd time's the charm

>>14845358
it's probably cancer
fuck

>>14846598
>3rd time

Lol

Lmao even

>>14846594
>menstruate
She's like 50 years old. All fanart should depict her as a cranky-ass crazy lady.

post cool space pics

>>14846337
>>14846335
Did anyone watch it?

>>14846650
yeah. not as interesting as his previous stuff. he said another deep dive is coming soon.

>>14846433
>tfw have mutual connections to /sfg/ faggots on Linkedin

>>14846018
>>14846031
Capacitor recharge time most likely, the compression is driven by a huge pulsed power system

>>14846659
Somehow the prospect of that being true makes me physically ill.

>>14846018
>just solve fusion bro
>this one is by far the closest
what did he mean by this?

>>14846671
Other concepts are even less realistic.

>>14846663
Damn, capacitor recharge time is that slow? I feel like every other design for a fusion spacecraft has these fuckers pulsing at like 100+ hertz.

>>14846680
>Damn, capacitor recharge time is that slow?

At milliwatts? No. At niggawatts for fusion? Yes.

>100hz niggawatts capacitor designs

Supreme kek, throw that shit in the dumpster and get yourself some nuclear saltwater rockets.

Anyone got the "EARTHERS could be here" image? please and thank you

>>14846648
imagine all the life forms in that picture

>>14844301
When will we send the first skeleton to the moon?

>>14846598
she's very cute :3

>>14846767
1969

>>14845382
>SLS with a real upper stage + kickstage
A rocket that has never launched with an upperstage that does not exist.
And it'll cost $5bn per launch.

>>14846123
"Blue" hydrogen is the next big thing set to slurp up tax payer money in the "green shift". It's cracking LNG, throwing away 70% of the energy contained within in the process.
The whole scheme is just a convoluted scam to move tax payer money into the hands of private companies and the politicians are all in on it.

>>14846423
>methane is undersirable because muh CO2
Guess where that hydrogen comes from. Protip: It's not from water.

>>14846550
Would be cool if their spacecraft design was a big bell shaped SSTO with a reusable heatshield on the top, and the payload came out the ass end from in between the engines.

>>14846856
>Blue hydrogen

Kek I thought there was only brown and green hydrogen.

>Cracking LNG

Holy absolute fucking nonsense these ""people"" should all be executed

Has anyone read Elons Twitter recently? He's like 2mm off from going mask off

>>14846594
sls is an empty-carton cat lady

>>14846704

>>14846659

>>14845349
What sort of value could you get out of using an extended 2nd stage of a falcon 9 as its payload to dock with a falcon heavy payload to be it's kick stage

>>14846865
>between the engines
That is the silliest idea I've heard since I read about the A-5 Vigilante

>>14846867
Cracking LNG is the most energy efficient way of producing hydrogen in any meaningful amount.
And even then you're throwing away roughly 70% of the energy in the process.

>>14846095
There's many more industrial uses for hydrogen than just an EV alternative. There's chemical processing uses and a method to make iron and steel very low carbon emissions while also producing higher quality steel.

>>14846867
These "people" will look you in the eye and tell you its okay to deforest if you plan to build a solar farm. theyre religious nutters.

>>14846951
>There's chemical processing uses and a method to make iron and steel very low carbon emissions while also producing higher quality steel.
how dare you spread this heresy this is a molten oxide electrolysis house, in the name of sadoway begone
nah but seriously why would you waste a shitload of energy to make hydrogen and then try to use that to make steel when u could ksiop a step and use electricity to do it directly? it's errant nonsense.

I hope NASA is gutted sooner than later, fuck these niggerfaggots for trying to crab-bucket newspace. I pray that Boing! and all the other fat cats have their hands cut off so they can't touch space exploration EVER again.

>>14846970
this image has always bugged me and i just realized why-elon is clearly actively walking but the dog is laying down. it's visually incoherent. also i get it's a joke and all but his bulge should be way way bigger, dem boer genetics

>>14846950
>Not burning the methane, carbon-capturing the exhaust and electrolyzing the water output to Sabatier back into methane
I wonder how much extra renewable juice you'd need to go carbon neutral

>>14846912
Looking at the most recent launch, a stock second stage goes from ~8000 km/h to ~27500 km/h throughout its burn, roughly coming to 5.5 km/s of dV with a full payload. This is more than enough to get like 15 tons to TMI.

Thoughts?

>>14845391
>Depots are the key to interstellar missions
What the fuck?

>>14847001
The laser would need its own nuclear reactor and the fucking commies are holding back that as well

How to make Baseduz reusable?

>>14847039
we can only hope a few thousand europeans freeze to death this winter for the hellfire backlash
to exterminate the greens for good

>>14847039
>>14847065
Seems you got lost
>>>/pol/

>>14847070
>>>/news/
>>>/r/eddit
take your pick

>>14847070
>>14847074

>https://spacenews.com/data-relay-networks/
MEO and GEO are seeing a surge in companies preparing to build large comsat constellations. why would anyone care about these when we starlink?

>>14847121
nvm i misread. the constellations are for people in LEO itself. it's not for people on earth.

>>14847062
If you want a serious answer, you'd basically have to resign the Decent module to be larger and better capable of surviving and being reused after re-entry that would launch by itself. Then transfer the functions of of the Service and Habitation modules into a Parom-like orbital tug docked at the space station that would come and collect the decent module after it was inserted into orbit

>>14846231
>stainless steel

>Starlink now has 700,000 customers worldwide
>with another 700,000 in waiting list
>75000 customers are in Europe
>6500 are in France
>Shotwell reiterated her dream of 3% world connectivity

The world has 9 billion people and avg family size of ~5. With 1.8 B households x 3% = 54 million households.

SpaceX aims for this dream, but thats still a long way off. They'll have to be content with 2-3 M goal by next year or so.

>>14847139
why didnt elon go out of his way to help ethiopia by giving them starlink for their war? there's 120 million people in the country.

unironically fuck bluetooth

>>14847145
civil wars aren't fashionable
plus they're a bunch of dirt poor savages doing war crimes

>>14846648
Is this where we're going with AI now? Space nebulized versions of old internet shock images?

>>14847160
no, we're going for on demand high grade pornography
the furfaggot patreon fiends are seething up a fucking storm, now that AI can reliably generate art higher quality than the shit they charge 100+ dollars for

>>14847145
I think Africans have received enough gibs.

>>14846335
>>14846337
Why does this nigger have to act so fucking cringe? cant he just write this shit down so i dont have to watch this his drama class project? i hate skits like you wouldnt believe

it's over?

>>14847245
youtube is where the money is at

>>14847254
it's so gay

>>14847145
If only dirt farming niggers could afford starlink, maybe there would be a business model.

https://www.reddit.com/r/blessedimages/comments/xdrlkk/blessed_her/

>>14847280
ukraine is poor as fuck

>>14847289
Ukraine is currently at war and it's more beneficial to help them, instead of some random African country. Also, that "donation" of Starlink dishes was funded by the government.

>>14847287

>>14847287
Does every NASA employee get to have a photo with the flags? I thought it was only astronauts desu

>>14847316
Why not? Americans aren't ashamed of their flags, unlike other nations.

>>14847287
Why do people these days need to preface every achievement they've made with some exaggerated story of somebody mocking them that they'll never accomplish what they've set out to do?

>>14847328
because they know they aren't worth consideration or acknowledgement otherwise
mutt culture revolves entirely around such masturbation

>>14847300
Also it ends in Russia giving Musk free security testing.

>>14847319
>disrespecting the flag by putting some nobody in front of it
tsk tsk anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9yAOKLxzko

>>14847062
It would take way too many modifications including new engines and a complete redesign of tank sizes. And you’d have to forego the korolev cross because trying to do something like fly back boosters would add way too much mass for a rocket as small as soyuz. Your best bet would be to design something modular from scratch—preferably a modern zenit that could be stacked up into a super heavy form. This is exactly what irtysh/yenisei is, however the core modules for this is fucking shite. They had the right idea but are executing it awfully. They should cut their losses and scrap everything and start from the design phase again

>>14847477
>fly back boosters would add way too much mass
Hang on.. what about.. flying wing boosters?

>>14847287
What's up with that "Everyone laughed at me" bullshit story? does that actually happen? the worst that could happen is people telling you "its expensive" or "the math in those fields is pretty difficult". Even when i told my parents and friends that i wanted to build a cubesat they told me that they could help me if i ever needed help. You guys need better people to be around

>>14847522
>does that actually happen?
Not really, it's just a thing people have seen in movies for so long they think it's how real people act.

>>14847306
lmao, she's cute. I feel kind of bad for her, but probably she earns more than me and has better status, so nah.

>>14847536
>4 errors
>2 sentences
Is it possible to learn such power?

>>14847536
I don't feel bad for her in the slightest. She's not working at NASA because she loves rockets or space exploration. She's working at NASA to spite a boy that was mean to her once in high school. She probably thought he was cute and wanted to awkwardly lose her virginity him but she spilled some spaghetti and he mocked her for it. He forgot about the whole thing before the class was even over but the exchange has eaten away at her for years. This is pure jilted woman behavior.

>>14847583
>spite a boy that was mean to her
I don't believe her story even slightly.

>>14847589
So she imagined being mocked by a boy she wanted to fuck and the experience so scarred her that she's devoted her life trying to get back at him for it. Or she coasted through a male dominated field on the diversity of her gender and is now trying to fortify that cushy government job with a mythology about how she's a strong anti-misogyny crusader.

Either way NASA really needs to look over its hiring practices.