/sci/ - Science & Math

https://twitter.com/Zemusooo/status/1563781400032993280
:3

Second for Space Shuttle :)

When Starship becomes operational, are the individual ships get proper names like sea ships do?
What would be cool names for a Starship? (Both crewed and uncrewed)

>>14840928
FTS Archive
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KCJBL632oieD1r6JOh_5Eg9NTcf_-hH8?usp=sharing

>>14840936
>What would be cool names for a Starship?
Glory of Terra (painted in yellow)
Pride of Ultramar (painted all in blue with the ultima sign)
Spirit of Deliverance (painted all black)
Furious Draco (Green)

And so on...

>>14840936
First Mars-landing crewed starship is supposed to be A Heart of Gold

The hundreds of cargo ones probably won't get names, there will just be too many

>>14840947
>Ultramar
Fucking smurfs go and stay gone.

>>14840951
Seethe heretic.

>>14840964
more like ultragay

>>14840964
I have never met a warhammer 40K fan capable of doing a single pullup. Always way too large or way too malnourished, never a normalish human inbetween

>>14840928
Nice cartoon ball-earth and Moon.

>>14840972
in /fit/ there are some. But yes, which is sad because you would think that should inspire young men to be a better version of themselves.

It is time

>>14840972
Henry Cavill plays with custodes.

>>14840989
Finally some good fucking drawing

>>14840989
we need more satellite girls

why don't they just make flexible tiles that bend when starship flexes instead of popping off?

>>14841007
is not so easy in tilenology

>>14840936
SpaceX only names their manned vehicles, so expect tankers and freighters to be called only by serial numbers, besides Heart of Gold. I would appreciate if Depots that are permanently in LEO get treated like stations, with any name as long as it ends in "station"
They are still going to need a crap ton of names for a crap ton of manned starships though. Some naming schemes could work that provide many names, while still keeping up a high quality.
-Names based on places on Earth- Pacific, Atlantic, Arctic, Saharan, Oceanic, etc
-Generic "space" names- Constellation, Galaxy, Supernova, Comet, Pulsar, etc
-Pop culture names- (SpaceX loves these, look at Falcon, Endurance, Heart of Gold, and all the culture series drone-ships) Serenity, Discovery One, Venture Star, Avalon, Red Dwarf, etc
-Last names of Astronauts that previously flew on Dragon, Hurley, Behnken, Pesquet, Isaacman, etc
You could also get free names by naming 4 after the dragon fleet, and 5 after the shuttles, (a dragon and a shuttle share the same name, so Endeavour would have to be the "Endeavour C") And for the rest just add a "B" after it to avoid confusion. I really like this one because that means there'll be an Enterprise B IRL. This also allows retired Starships to give their names to a newly commissioned craft while keeping a distinction.

>>14840940
16 stamps from a bunch of countries from Asia, South America and Africa. 3 from the Maldives and Grenada, 2 from Vietnam and Haiti, and 1 from Japan, Mongolia, Malaysia, Panama, Honduras, and Equatorial Guinea each

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1JnTpiGNU9cnzpYZ_CiAtFVpT_kyexUy-?usp=sharing

>>14841003
yes

>>14841026
These stamps from Haiti are sort of rare, they were cancelled soon after release.
They're still technically illegal to own in Haiti due to their inherent value, kind of like a 1933 US gold coin

>>14841031
And another stamp from the infamous space tragedies series from E-Guinea.
Still looking out for the two remaining ones

>>14841024
>SpaceX only names their manned vehicles
Their drone ships get names. Is that because they sometimes have people on them?

>>14841024
The first depot should be Von Braun Station.

>>14841037
Von Braun is the name of the first spaceship to Jupiter.

>>14841003
Is there a Telstar 1 girl?

>>14840900
Does Elon Musk have a seperate independent ai/robotics company or just different projects use custom robotics and stuff, because won't robotics (smart roving, hovering, walking, sprinting, robotics) be huge help in doing construction on the moon and mars, robots and AI machines should be being taught how to 3d print and carry and drag and lift and attatch modules to make moon/mars base, and assist in human construction of solar field

Got really drunk last night watching Elon YouTube videos with my neighbor. Woke up in his bed with him. I'm so ashamed bros...

>>14841047
How much difficult math is involved in robotics, is it a lot of math? I feel robotics would be fun and worthy to dedicate to because it's potential seems open ended, like the possibilities of theoretically how much advanced smart AI robotics could help on the moon and mars is crazy,

>>14841048
How was the docking

>>14841060
He turned me into swiss cheese according to the cctv.

>>14841007
spacex should hire you

>>14840989
good one

>>14840928
First for banning Africans from space travel

>>14840964
>Starship will go to mars eventually.
>Ultralink.
>Elon's fear of AI.
It's easy to conclude SpaceX belongs to the Omnissiah.

Hello space fellows, in our opinion should Comrade Supreme John Biden to continue funding international space station aka MКC for the foreseelable future.
t. Steve Cowboy from Ohio Oblast

>>14841073
>banning glorious princes of Nubia from taking their place in the heavens
anon this statement is one of a soul hopelessly stained by gravity. just because you said this, if i am ever a billionaire I will fund an initiative to support the training of more black spacefarers just to spite you.

>>14841100
he snuck those good doggies in for the photoshoot, dogs weren't allowed in that nasa building

>>14841104
Dogs are scum; no place in space industries at all.

>>14840932
ENHANCED

>>14841100
A blind black man with TWO guide dogs for an astronaut??? sheeeeshhhhhh

>>14841100
Le kumbaja drum circle in space :^)
No, fuck off.

>>14841131
anon what the fuck is this

>>14841181
An AI generated image.

>>14841192
which AI?

It's over
https://spacenews.com/court-approves-sale-of-masten-assets-to-astrobotic/
>“We’ll find out at the end of their Chapter 11 reorganization if they are ready to fulfill the terms of the task order,” said Joel Kearns, deputy associate administrator for exploration in NASA’s Science Mission Directorate, during a presentation at the annual meeting of the Lunar Exploration Analysis Group Aug. 24 at the Applied Physics Lab in Maryland. “If they’re not, we’ll go manifest those instruments, those investigations, on other delivery opportunities.”

>>14841194
I think it's DALL-E. There's one that puts out images as 512x512, but I don't remember for certain which one it is.

>>14841195
What does this means

>>14841192
Please do not post such psychohazards here.

Anyone else think it is a bit weird that SpaceX seem to be having a hard time with Booster SF's than Starship ones?

>>14841210
Maybe the FAA should investigate...

>>14840928
Why is our moon so boring? Why can't we have a moon like Europa?

>>14841245
I guess rock material tends to stay in the inner solar system and ice tends to stay in the outer solar system, so this is why there are more rocky planets/moons closer to the sun and icy moons are all on the outer solar system.
>tl;dr real life is always boring

yeah i wish i was a rabbit

Another static fire todae

https://twitter.com/NASAhistory/status/1568992773721788416
>They completely avoided mentioning Von Braun's name in this post.

>warosu has gaps in coverage
>every other archive board for /sci/ has search disabled

>>14841245
The lunar crust hides many secrets

>>14841245
Jupiter

Also I bet that because Theia didn't completely liquidate proto-earth, Earth kept most of its volatiles

>>14841271
Like?

>>14841245
It's too small and we're too close to the Sun. But mainly just bad luck.
But why have a moon like Europa when you could have moon like Mars?

>>14841269
...do you not know he was a nazi?

why moon boring

>>14841270
why are they doing this to us? fireden used to be great

>>14841291
Brine oceans, caverns that could accommodate cities comfortably, geodes a kilometer across, technocultists

>>14841295
Of course I know, but it strikes me as odd trying to ignore something like this, when people will mention it anyway.

>>14840972
40k is okay but I wouldn't call myself a fanatic and I can do a pullup

Reading Berger's Liftoff and it sounds like SpaceX's protest of NASA's award to Kistler is what led to COTS. And that protest was spearheaded solely by Elon, and most tried to disuade him from doing so.
It's so unnerving how much the industry and future has changed due to the effort of one man. What happens when Elon dies?

>>14841339
>What happens when Elon dies
Nothing will continue to happen.

Get ready... for history...
https://youtu.be/SqAVWvOT-1c

>>14841358
More people watch weekly Starlink launches

>>14841245
you fucking ingrate

>>14841291
like what is causing these carbon emissions
https://www.sciencealert.com/the-moon-is-emitting-carbon-putting-our-formation-theory-to-question

>>14841378
sorry, I've been eating beans

>>14841378
someone draw cute moon-chan farting

We are going
https://youtu.be/WwBkcyPQwko

>>14841152
the "diversity hire" astronauts are far better than you in every single way - physically, mentally, socially
how does that make you feel?

>>14841474
Sick burn, anon.

What made spacex abandon crew dragon propulsive landing?
muskrats say that it's because nasa got cold feet about it but i'm skeptical that that's the only reason

>>14841538
parachutes are cheap, and easy to build in redundancy for

How would (you) name the future Uranus mission?

>>14841565
Uranus Probe

>>14841565
CGI-1

>>14841538
It was because NASA got cold feet. They had SpaceX redesign several elements of Dragon 2. Killed some seats, removed some windows, and removed the ability to propulsively land. According to SpaceX, the changes made to the design are why it exploded.

>>14841200
It means the continued existence of Masten space systems depends on some auditor coming around and deciding that they're worth keeping on life support.

>>14841565
Colonoscopy

>>14841210
You think it's weird that the larger and more complex engine cluster which began development roughly two years after Starship itself seems to be behind Starship?

>>14841245
It's certainly the most interesting inner solar system moon so I don't really know what you're on about

>>14841565
Cassini Avenger

>>14841565
URICA
URanus ICy Astronomy

>>14841295
Sure lets just erase history because it makes some people uncomfortable.
While we're at it let's not talk about world war 1 at all because 100% of those people involved were extremely racist and sexist and classist by today's standards.

>>14841565
Pinyan Probe.

>>14841372
Seems unscientific.

>>14841474
Idk dude that girl who posted a lot of selfies with a model of SLS screaming I WORK ON THIS!!! and also about how she felt depressed n sheeit doesn't seem better than I am mentally, and certainly not physically.

>>14841606
nope
https://www.nature.com/articles/361615a0

>>14841538
Originally they wanted to do propulsive landing as a way to practice for Mars landings. Later, plans changed, and the way they were going to do Mars landings had less and less in common with how Dragon would land. It was when they realized they would have their Mars vehicle developed and working long before propulsive landing of Dragon could ever pay for itself that they decided to drop the program.

>>14841565
Caelus obviously. No it doesn't stand for anything.
Daily reminder that the beloved tortured backronyms of NASA are cancer.

>>14841610
you should work not only on your narcissism, but also your reading comprehension

>>14841614
By unscientific I mean it's untestable.

>>14841628
It's not narcissistic whatsoever to state the fact that I am fitter than this woman I'm talking about, and not in a strongfat way. You can seethe if you feel like it though.

SO HOW 'BOUT THEM ROCKETS??

The schizo is back. He will escalate his retardposting until it's banworthy again.

>>14841565
Some anon a few threads ago suggested naming missions after American Indian gods, rather than the boring overused Greek ones.

>>14841474
I hope she sees this, bro. You are better of whiteknighting e-thots, i'll give you that.

>>14841743
nah
names referring to butt stuff is better

>>14841474
>the "diversity hire" astronauts are far better than you in every single way
Then they wouldn't be 'diversity hires', they'd just be hires.

>>14841743
No, those cultures suck. Also, Caelus is Roman.

>>14841743
gay

big transporter is on the move
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg

how many engines today, /sfg/? i'm thinking 13.

>>14841565
ADVANCED Radar Environment and Climate Titania/Ariel Lander and PROBE

>>14841818
Wtf is this another launch mount?

>>14841826
it's the booster thrust simulator newfag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqAVWvOT-1c
Jeff will show these shitters how it is done.

>>14841743
Why do we need to do it for them? Why can't they do their own missions and name them after their own deities n'sheeit?

>>14841826
It's a big press for applying thrust force to stages without actually firing any engines.

>>14841840
Not spaceflight related

>>14841565
I'd probably name it after some other sky god, there are a lot of them

>>14841856
It more spacey than smoking weeds.

>>14841840
>"NS-23 will fly 36 payloads from academia, research institutions, and students across the globe. Two of the payloads will fly on the exterior of the New Shepard booster for ambient exposure to the space environment. Eighteen of the payloads on this flight are funded by NASA, primarily by the Flight Opportunities program."
Who the fuck puts payloads on a suborbital hopper

I just realized Firefly's attempt carries something /sfg/ was discussing as a concept just the other day
>"The TechEdSat-15 (TES-15) mission is a NASA-owned, in coordination with San Jose State, 3U CubeSat.
The TES-15 design is a ‘hot,’ articulated exo-brake that allows for de-orbit targeting through drag-modulation and deeper penetration into
the atmosphere to validate COM systems for future Entry Design Landing (EDL) system flights. The exo-brake will deploy after the CubeSat is ejected from its dispenser to deorbit the CubeSat."

>>14841877
>Entry Design Landing (EDL)
fire that intern

>>14841873
>ambient exposure to the space environment
For like 15 seconds. That’s hardly enough time to get any meaningful data. A sounding rocket would be a better choice

>>14841868
In space, no one will smoke weed. They'll have edibles instead.

>>14841884
noooo you don't understand, there's a qualitative and important difference between the near vacuum of almost-space and the near vacuum of a sea level vacuum chamber that we just can't replicate! We are doing very important research!!

>>14841889
What about vape carts? They're not my favorite but it's a compromise for getting baked in orbit without bringing a lighter to space. Flicking your bic would probably burn your finger, wouldn't it? The flame wouldn't be drawn upwards and instead just burn as a little sphere at the nozzle.

>>14841565
4ASS MULTI ASS INSERTER

>>14841896
Vaping exposes everyone to vapors, edibles are fine because they're completely targeted. Also anyone who does sneak a vape onto a spacecraft or a Moon or Mars base is going to find their vape gets "lost" extremely quickly due to their fellow inhabitants not being thrilled to be exposed to wafts of sickly sweet smelling bubblegum flavored vapor.

ABORT

>>14841900
The issue with edibles is strength and longevity of effect in comparison to smoking/vaping, though you could probably make a fairly standardized low-dose cookie or something, a store near me sells weak gummies like that.
Also LSD on Mars when? Somebody has to be the first to trip up there, put me in coach I'm ready.

Lol, Blue Origins poofta rocket just exploded into a million pieces.
Glorious.

Did they lose the booster?

>>14841909
Yeh it disintegrated.
The capsule abort system seemed to have worked flawlessly though I'll give them that.

>>14841565
George.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

>>14841909
Damn, RIP repeat hopper carnival ride
Do they have another one or was that the only one?

I think we can all agree that launch abort systems are kino and superior to incinerating astronauts.

Good morning, /sfg/.

LOL imagine aborting a suborbital rocket. New Glenn is never gonna work

So New Shepard shat itself during its 9th flight while Falcon 9 has now 14th successful launches and landings.

Gimme the webm I need the webm

>>14841920
It's ok, there were no astronauts on board.

>>14841915
It’s not the one they use for tourist launches, so they’ve got at least one more

>>14841565
Dies (Dye-Eez), the mother and sex friend of Caelus (roman for Uranus).
Alternatively, the Greek name for Dies is Hemera (she was still Uranus' mom and FWB though)

>>14841915
Multiple. I think this particular one had done like 8 flights or some bullshit.

A lot of movement in the capsule during the abort. I assume that’s normal due to aerodynamics, but I wonder, if the capsule flips completely on its head, it has to have the ability to self-right, maybe with rcs or something?

>>14841922
This is why we test.
After 60 it starts to decline pretty fast and supplementation is cheap.

>>14841907
Mars is for growing psilocybin mushrooms

Wth, i thought if you had almost infinite money you could build an orbital rocket easily. I mean, you could just hire the people that managed to do it, get some obscure blueprints, make your own factories for important parts, dont worry about wasting fuel, etc. Why Jeff keeps failing?

>>14841931
Oh good, I can't wait to see the looks on the faces of the next 'crew' boarding the tourism one after this.
>>14841933
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/reuse/66
9, apparently.
>>14841939
But first, we need cows.

>>14841936
Every part of New Shephard seems really aerodynamically unstable. The capsule is wobbly and the booster swings around a lot during descent.

>can’t into suborbit
And they wanted to build a fucking moon lander

Meanwhile, at Starbase venting has started very early

To the faggot who was calling NS an example of a modern reliable hydrogen rocket a few days ago

>>14841948
KEK

>>14841940
It's because his soul is chained down by gravity
>>14841941
>But first, we need cows.
Mushrooms prefer to grow in wood chips, actually. Especially wood chips you've peed on, in my experience. The hyphae live to digest and gain energy from the carbohydrates in the plant tissue after all, and what is cow shit but plant tissue with most of the hydrocarbons removed? Besides that, the mostly vegetarian diet of the people living there should make their own shit a useful substitute if feces are actually necessary to mix into the base plant material.

>>14841416
Why does H3 run on hydrolox? Is it thanks to their status of an American vassal?

>>14841927
I was kinda shitting on the Shuttle.

Someone give me a quick rundown on this BO failure. How old is this booster? Was it their only one? Has it flown previously and if so how often? I haven't seen any footage whatsoever as of writing this post

>>14841939
just eat the native ones

>>14841954
Bringing cows is mostly for ensuring a future for clean unrestricted grilling for all free Martians, established as a basic human right under the MTAG (Martian Territory of Associated Grillers) charter. Having cow shit for growing crops (and fun shrooms) is a side-benefit.
I do like the woodchip substrate idea though, there's no wrong way to produce more Martian resources. The more the merrier, I say.

>>14841956
It’s because the H3 is an evolution of the H-IIA, which was an evolution of the H-II, which was a rocket designed in the late 80s for the launch market of the 1990s. Hydrogen was the meme fuel back then.

>>14841956
It's because it's basically a Delta rocket (at minimum, very very heavily based on Delta). Why delta? It's because that's what Americans were building at the time (Atlas uses engines that they bought from Russia, so it's not like they could offer that design as something Japan could build for themselves).
Note that I could be wrong about all of this as I'm making it up on the spot based on a vague sense of familiarity due to reading this general for years at this point and probably hearing about the H3 before.

>>14841960
See
>>14841941
for a link to the previous flights of this booster

I need video of bozos confetti now

>>14841963
Puffball mushrooms aren't good to eat unless you catch them very early, though. The smell of a too-old giant puffball mushroom being fried in a pan is absolutely stomach churningly awful.

>>14841980

>>14841975
Mitsubishi/JAXA have a long history of collaboration with McDonnell/Boeing. It’s not that wrong to think of the H3 as the Delta IV’s Japanese cousin.

>>14841940
Blue Origin was run by Kistler and DC-X alumni. They are not fit to design anything

>>14841969
Where are the potato plants in your image? I only see potatoes and associated roots, there should be 3 foot tall green stems and leaves somewhere.
Of course I agree with eventually bringing over many different animals and plants of all descriptions to serve a purpose eventually, even if their purpose is merely to exist and be appreciated. Dunno how large a colony will need to be before a self sustaining population of cattle can be supported inside of it, though.

>>14841975
based ass-speaker, that's me too

>>14841988
So I was pretty much correct, cool

>>14841975
lol you’re pretty much right. America had a ton of R&D into hyrdrolox because of stupid DoD funding decisions so we shared our knowledge with them. The LE-7 engine is completely home frown though if I remember correctly

>>14841989
The DC-X crew should be given some cred. Kistler was a good idea that was outsourced to a mess of subcontractors.

>>14841992
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-plant-researchers-explore-question-of-deep-space-food-crops
and further reading here. I'm not sure now that I look at it, I think the photo is taken after removal of the plants which grew through a grate cover?

>>14842014
Dropped the second link, whoops
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20190027336/downloads/20190027336.pdf

>>14841937

>>14841980
WE DID IT
WE DID IT

>>14841910
Is there a pic of the booster exploding? Seems the stream focused really quickly on the capsule

>>14842008
Kistler is literally what Blue Origin is trying to be. If not for Bezos life support, bankruptcy would be certain

Now I would say it is time for all engine static fire

>>14842007
>LE-7 engine is completely home grown
That's good, they should be able to attain a much better performance ceiling that way than if they had copied the RS-68, that ablative nozzle ass leaky ass heavy ass thing
>>14842014
>>14842017
makes sense, good to know that potatoes can grow without a soil medium, that makes achieving calorie independence way more straightforward actually.

MOMMY

>>14842033
I must . . . inside . . .

>>14842023
Yeah I'm pretty sure the camera only caught a few frames of the booster shitting hydrogen flames out of the side of its base and swinging to the right before the capsule had moved off.
Honestly I had to turn off the audio to that stream, it was making me cringe too hard

>>14842033
>a woman with the body of a 20 year old male swimming champ
ew

>>14842033
Who stole her organs?

>>14842028
I've been saying it for months now!

>>14842026
At least Blue Origin are designing and building their own propulsion. Kistler seemed willing to outsource nearly everything besides final assembly.

>>14842047
It's so funny when fat women complain about thin women not having space for organs. Not everyone has cardiac hypertrophy and 35 pounds of visceral fat, Janet.

Ria chan didn't give a fuck.

>>14842033
fucking gross. jewish too

>>14842050
Yes, Any% bankruptcy speedrun by contracting LM for LOx tanks, NG for structures, Draper for avionics, and Aerojet for engines

>>14842044
I find it amazing how every communication of BO is cringe

>>14841927
why

>>14841840
>>14841840
>>14841840
>>14841840
>>14841840

>>14842047
lardoid detected

>>14841873
this has literally no scientific value. I know BO is payrolling these shitty instruments

>>14842056
>>14842072
There is such a thing as too skinny. Her ribs shouldn't be protruding like that.

https://youtu.be/S0BHeDTfL74?t=65

>>14842064
It's their most impressive metric

>>14842079
it's literally normal when you raise your arm and push out your chest like that. go for a jog pig

>>14842066
because this abort was pre-planned to demonstrate how blue shepard is safe

>>14842089
He's setting off my troll radar big time. I'd start ignoring at this point.

>>14842033
>mommy
I doubt she can even conceive with a body like that. Women too skinny don't get their period.

>>14842064
>No astronauts on board!!!
Astronauts??? They are so cringe

subaborbital

>>14842079
rockets should be smooth and have no protrusions too

>>14842032
>that makes achieving calorie independence way more straightforward actually.
This is one of those things I'd want tested on the moon first, and as quickly as possible too. At least there if something goes wrong it's easier to resupply/rescue any lunar farmers.

>>14842089
>>14842093
>unironic anorexics calling anyone non-anorexic fat

>>14842087
Why is his voice so insufferable? His laugh especially. He laughs like he's in a socially uncomfortable situation and trying to get approval. I could never watch his Ksp shit either because of this.

>>14842095
No period, strictly ovulation only.

>>14842097
>no astronauts on board
Just like every other New Shepard then

Wow, off topic posting AND trolling outside of /b/, daring today aren't we?

>>14842114
>projecting

>>14842114
wow extremely low-quality posting

>>14842104
post body

>Can't even manage 100km let alone orbit
How long until the lawsuits ramp up again?

>>14842114
Drink piss

>>14841944
How is the capsule staying upright during both abort and descent?
Shouldn't it flip bottom-first right after ejection? (assuming the CoM is near the bottom).
And if the CoM is at the top, then it should fall top-first...
Or does it have any fins to create drag at the bottom?

>no webms or pictures of the penis rocket exploding
Disappointing

>>14842070
So after max q they shut off engines, and tried to refire them up and it blew up? This is a standard technique and procedure, done before, this time it didnt work for some reason?

It is an automated system so very quick and sensitive if for a millisecond it seemed like an engine didn't reignite it's programmed to not mess around, and it aborts.


So something with temperture and propellent dynamics and max q, and upward momentum when they cut the engines, when they go to relight them, dynamics have changed since they were cut and they do not fire as they did when they were starting up on the ground

>>14842110
No, they often stop ovulating. Extremely low body fat leads to low oestrogen levels, which stops their ovulation.

>>14842126
you don't need to be aerdynamically stable if you have rcs to control orientation

>>14842118
175cm and 65kg.

Why can’t Bezos do space? Is space to hard?

>14842129
remember to never respond to the schizo.
he is a known faggot and got banned for extremely low quality posting in sfg.

>>14842135
lmao, we have pretty much the same numbers

>>14842098
lol
>>14842112
Damn gottem
>>14842103
Why test that on the Moon though? We could test that anywhere on Earth.

>founded 22 years ago
>still can't get to orbit
how is it possible for them to be this big of fuckups with all that bezos money?

Post tory brunos face when jeff calls him to tell him his engines have been recalled due to similarities to the be3

>>14842129
>So after max q they shut off engines
No, they just throttle the engine (singular) down a bit for max Q.

>>14842129
the plume looks very characteristic of a turbine burning through, I’m willing to bet the engine shat itself somewhere between the combustion chamber and the turbopump, or the turbopump just outright gave out

>Elon starts commenting on CSI starbase twitter
>Bezos starts following him

hmmmmmmmm

>>14842140
shit sorry I didn't read far enough into his comment for pattern recognition software to kick in

>>14842145
see Rings of Power, see Project Kuiper, see the Expanse, see Blue Moon, see Foundation, see BE4

>>14842150
I'm too retarded to figure out what is being implied by this

>>14842159
Me either, idk what Bezos is thinking, but clearly he values his insight and intel

>>14842159
jeff bezos is a follower, not a leader

>>14842153
So basically he throws money at things which need money to make, but for him it doesn't work?

I guess he lets people get away with the bare minimum to keep getting a paycheck from him, and doesn't hold their feet to the fire because he's too busy yachting or something?

>>14842153
>see Rings of Power
I did and it's better and hotD unironically. I enjoy the effects thoroughly

>>14841339
Elon's 18 sons take over.

>>14842164
more like he has good classical business sense and he was very good at surrounding himself with other people who would ensure a book company could grow and grow into a shipping/marketplace company with everyone’s feet under the fire, but when it comes to aerospace he said “uhhh ULA is a good company?” and proceeded to hire oldspace honeywell and Aerojet boomers who can’t keep up with the market

>>14842170
i think it would probably be his plan. Of all his children at least one has to be competent enough to continue the mission.

>>14842133
But RCS sucks during atmospheric flight. They are designed for vacuum. I doubt they can counter aerodynamic forces at max Q.

>>14842170
Dont forget his daughter

>>14842185
"daughter"

I’m rewatching the New Shepard failure. At T+1:02 seconds, the engine plume starts having flashes of light. At T+1:03, it happens again. This time, the vehicle rocks back and forth a bit.
At T+1:04, the engine shits itself and the entire bottom of the vehicle is enveloped in fire. It then pitched over, and then New Shepard’s abort activated.
By T+1:05, the capsule was separated. At this point New Shepard was tilted about 45 degrees. This is the last visual data from the booster.

>>14842170
his son is a troon

>>14842184
You're thinking tvc not rcs

>>14842184
you can give rcs ports short nozzles and it'll work fine in the atmosphere

>>14842192
Are the astronauts ok?

I WANNA SEE BOOSTER EXPLOSION
HELLOOOOOO?????? ANYBODY GOT THAT

>>14842198
No crew this time, just payloads.

>>14842207
no. it only exploded on impact and that was not shown

>>14842209
Damn.

>>14842198
No astronauts. It was an unmanned flight.

>>14842198
no. jeff is force-feeding them champagne while they try not to cringe as we speak.

>>14842198
died

>>14842225
>jeff is force-feeding them champagne
Astronaut foie gras? Exquisite.

>>14842232
lmao, this guy has zuck levels of having weird looking pictures

>>14842133
BOs capsule doesn't have RCS tho unless I'm mistaken
>>14842195
TVC is far more powerful than RCS. TVC can give you literally thousands of times more torque than RCS.

>>14842192
So how will starship avoid this fate? Starship has never flown too high before

bone petite

Is there even any vague conjecture about how you’d create a wormhole?

>>14842235
>Lol tvc is stronk
That's what I fucking said idiot

>>14842212
Yes it was, the moment the engine failed and the capsule aborted was on live stream.
>>14842237
Starship will avoid this fate by not choosing hydrolox propellant

>>14842237
Starship has flown with three raptors for T+1:30-2:00. And with two to T+3:00ish

>>14842244
Bulk Bogarde could survive on Mars naked

>>14842244
The comment you replied to said "But RCS sucks for atmospheric flight", to which you replied "You're thinking of TVC". Any english speaker would interpret this as you saving that TVC is weak during atmospheric flight. Are you ESL?

>>14842196
No it won't retard.
You would need a fuckton of pressure to tilt anything flying at that altitude and speed.

so they will static today?

>>14842265
Possibly

>>14842254
Are you a nigger?

Spaceflight is so cool and hot my gosh

>>14842235
>BOs capsule doesn't have RCS tho unless I'm mistaken
It has RCS according to this pic.
But they lose a fuckton of ISP in the lower atmosphere, and most often they are sized for vacuum operation.

>>14842196
You are greatly overestimating the strength of RCS thrusters. Real life is not Ksp.

>>14842242
Nope. All the solutions to Einstein's field equations for wormholes depend on there existing some form of energy that curves space in the opposite direction of real energy. This stuff is euphemistically called "exotic matter," but for complex quantum-field-theory reasons it can't exist in our universe. Or rather, if it COULD exist, our universe COULDN'T, so we're pretty sure it's not out there.

>>14842281
You mean reaction wheels aren't magical sources of angular momentum? Heresy, I say.

>>14842277
Those look like 100 newton thrusters, basically only good for making sure the capsule re-enters ass-first.

>>14842289
Ksp reaction wheels make more sense if you assume the magnetic field of a nearby magnetar is present in the star system and that reaction wheels actually work by pushing and pulling on said field. Disclaimer: this isn't actually how any of that works

>>14841037
based
>>14841042
>not Discovery
one job, anon

Imagine 20 years of roggetry. All.yoube got to show for it is a few sub orbital hops, a few engine prototypes, and 1 blown up rogget.

While Elon and Gwynne have the most dominant company in aerospace.

So with all the attention on BO and Firefly, Astra with their aptly named "Rocket" working tirelessly in the shadows for one purpose (and one purpose only): to absolutely dominate the nerdy tomboy anime rocket girl market

>>14841131
that image is so eseffgee

>>14842309
Slow and steady wins the race ;)

>>14841565
Turing

>>14841597
we need URanus INspection Expedition.

>>14842308
>Discovery
most generic basic bitch american ship name ever

>Von Braun
pays tribute to a great man, underappreciated in these modern times.

>>14842309
im convinced elon fucked gwynne in the early days of spacex. she was freshly divorced

>>14841565
Insert finger butt hole clipper

Blorg today.
https://youtu.be/_asNhzXq72w

>>14842309
This is not accurate!! BO has been around for 22 years.

UH OHHHH STINKY FAA INVESTIGATION INCOMING

>>14842331
I doubt it. She's a career woman. Also she was 39 when she joined SpaceX.

>>14842347
Why not NTSB? is that only if your rocket actually kills someone a la Virgin?

>>14842347
for whomst?

>>14842285
Quantum field theory is wrong tho so

>>14842352
the rocket that just exploded
>>14842350
Considering NS carries people I’m surprised they aren’t leading the investigation

still not so much as a single picture of anything?

>>14842357
>>14842192

>>14842297
I prefer to believe that rotational symmetry does not hold in the KSP universe.

>>14842353
Except for the part where it's literally the most thoroughly and successfully tested theory in the history of history.

No webums?

>>14842234
Their publicists hate them. It's the only explanation.

https://youtu.be/44YbJ-7gnx8
Attention all /sfg/ posters: Elon Musk is in great danger and he needs your help to wipe out the oldspace menace, but to do this he needs a fully and rapidly reusable rocket and a couple of government subsidies. To help him, all he needs is your credit card number, the three digits on the back, and the expiration month and year. But, you gotta be quick, so Elon Musk can get the dunk on Bezos and win the space race!

>>14842357
Just watch the stream

Just woke up.
>That fucking capsule wobble
Well, at least they saved it, but that's gonna make people fill the fucking capsule with vomit if it goes off with people on.

>>14842366
Except it must be wrong, or more accurately incomplete, because gravity breaks it and we know gravity exists.

>>14842097
There's no way to sugarcoat this.

>>14842379
I hope they never put people in that thing ever again

>>14842192
It's not that easy in hydroloxnautics.

>>14842373
4210333940001100
003
8/22

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoRp7nRIOpo&ab_channel=ScottManley

>>14842366
pretty sure theory of electrivity is more tested. Try consuming less popsci

>>14842332
Von Braun is worthy of greater things than visiting the largest fart in the solar system.

>>14842400
Uranus is more interesting than Neptune or Pluto or Mercury, there I said it.

>>14842373
5105105105105100
510
10/25

>>14842407
Goes to show that having no engine redundancy is a bad idea. Falcon 9 can lose an engine on ascent and be fine. Starship can lose like half a dozen.

>>14842407

>>14842395
Imagine being an old, fat billionaire, taking a fun space ride and being suddently subjected to all those sudden Gs on acceleration and deceleration, lol

>>14842402
Terraform Venus!

>>14842414
Someone zoom in and put this in slow motion

>>14842373
I remember a few years ago i went with my dad to a military aircraft convention for our air force. There were some stands with cool warfare tech so contractors and goverment branches would make business. And in some stand there was some high distance drone jammer used on high priority gov buildings or something, looked pretty expensive. and the one explaining in the video how they worked was actually voiceOverPete, my dad was wondering why i was laughing so much that time.
>>14842407
i would be terrified of being there as a suborbital tourist.

>>14842373
4685346487532562
782
08/23
GO NASA

>>14842407
Imagine if there were customers inside.

>>14842414
The abort engine is so much fire that you can hardly see anything of the booster.
>>14842423
E Ticket, please

>>14842405
>big elon
kek, why havent i seen this one?

>>14842424
Nah, let's make it even worse, as a joke.

>>14842451
how would you could you even possibly make venus even more worse than the venus we know as venus today even

>>14842454
Make it radioactive.

>>14842454
More CO2, more molten lava, more acid

>>14842454
Fill it with Europeans.

You’re telling me 80 year old Wally funk wouldn’t have fucking died on that launch abort today?

>>14842459
This, use huge space based solar power arrays to run particle accelerators and blast Venus with ultra high energy protons from orbit, fill the atmosphere with radioactive carbon

>>14842462
maybe the Africans would try to follow them

>>14842454
Encircle Venus with OSPD (Orbital Shark Planetary Defense.)

>>14842470
She's a big girl.

>>14842461
is there a point where venus cannot get any hotter?

whats the term for the opposite of terraforming lmao

maybe venusforming in honor of this hell world

>>14842470
Nobody is telling you that.

>>14842471
or just nuke it with cobalt salted nuclear bombs

>>14842471
Wouldn't that end up creating a bunch of hydrogen from spare protons and put water back in the atmosphere?

>>14842470
Strawman

apparently booster 7 also had an abort.

>>14842480
Africa-forming

https://twitter.com/wapodavenport/status/1569359448690278400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1569359448690278400%7Ctwgr%5E9cdc3197d0380e63a1894e9b0aa83aeb1f3c81f5%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.nasaspaceflight.com%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D57024.40

FAA WILL INVESTIGATE
No more flying this year mr Bezos.

Bezos is finished

>>14842495
yeah. to be fair, spacex should be grounded too just to be sure (they could share the same risk failure)

>>14842497

>>14842495
It’s over…

Why doesnt FAA investigate B7 exploaiomm?

>>14842495

>null shepard

>>14842517
because it's not a crew rated vehicle

What is happening to Blue Shepard? the company is going backward, lower reliability...

>>14842480
>cannot get any hotter?
Thermodynamically, using mirrors alone, it can't exceed the temperature of the surface of the Sun. However if we're to use solar panels to convert sunlight into electricity first, and use that energy to power laser arrays, we can achieve much higher Venusian surface temperatures. At some point though we'd be looking at Venus as a fully vaporized rotating cloud of gravitationally bound gasses and plasma, and I'm pretty sure that would be very prone to losing lots of mass to space very quickly. What temperature does silicon dioxide gas need to achieve in order to be moving faster than ~10 km/s (Venus escape velocity)? How about iron vapor?

>>14842482
Half life so short though, and cobalt is easy to scrub out. Good luck doing isotopic separation of all the carbon you intake from the atmosphere in order to supply your greenhouses, lol.

Isn't Starship too small for manned missions to Mars?

>>14842483
More water makes more sulfuric acid from available SO2 and SO3 gas, also it'd be splitting a lot of the oxygen and carbon and nitrogen and sulfur atoms down there into isotopes of lighter elements anyway so some wacky stuff is going to be going on.

>>14842505
No surrounding layer of sweet outer crust?

>>14842539
Depends how many men you're taking with you. It would be ample space for a dozen or so, but 100 passengers would be African slave ship style hell.

>>14842454
Huge mirrors at Sun-Venus L4/L5/L2 points.

Redirecting and focusing the sunlight onto Venus. Burning a specific spot on the equator. Due to the slow rotation. Pushing Venus towards the sun.

>>14842517
It didn't lift off
>>14842526
They almost started gaining momentum with accomplishments, which goes against their motto to work as slowly as possible in tiny tiny steps. This slowdown will allow them to catch their breath and then continue, maybe they'll even launch again this decade

>>14842539
It's larger than any vehicle concept NASA ever looked at, both in terms of payload total mass and total habitable volume.

>>14842542
All the sugar in the world can’t coat this

>>14842539
remember that the cargo space doesn't start at the nose taper.

>>14842529
>At some point though we'd be looking at Venus as a fully vaporized rotating cloud of gravitationally bound gasses and plasma
A star?

>>14842539
a single starship isn't enough. there need to be dozens of autonomous ships and equipment landed in the previous synod to have a guaranteed return for the humans.

Looks like Jeff will start to write with a shitton of accent marks and dieresis from now.
Because he's finished.

It's over.

New Shepard has flown 22 times, with 1 partial failure resulting in the loss of the booster and the payload not reaching space (flight 1) and 1 full failure (this one).
New Shepard has a launch reliability of 90.9%

The FAA should require Jeff to be the next passenger on New Shepard before it flies with another person again.

>>14842559
what about this space

>>14842366
Did you forget the part where gravity existing at all disproves it? People have been trying for literally a hundred years to reconcile quantum physics and relativity and they’re still going at it.

>>14842587
Not an expert but i think if there is a lot of cargo there would fuck with CoM and therefore the stability of the ship

>>14842548
We need to either move Mercury into Venus orbit as a large stabilizing moon, or apply torque to Mercury and Venus to tidally lock both of them in place so that their permanently shadowed sides can become a convenient deep freeze for human colonists to exploit. Imagine a windy Venus with a nitrogen based atmosphere and huge CO2 glaciers on its night side, with a habitable band between the light and dark sides surrounding a 2000 km wide sub-solar desert landscape. Imagine a tidally locked Mercury with heavy industries just barely straddling the line between intense heat and extreme cold, and taking advantage of that thermal gradient to operate huge Brayton cycle gas turbines to generate nearly limitless power for a huge number of surface habitat cities built across a land area about as large as Africa and Asia combined. Imagine all this retarded bullshit that will never exist because orbital-based civilizations will inevitably dominate the universe.

>>14842560
No, no fusion or anything would be taking place. More like a synestia.

>>14842587
what about it? it's part of the cargo space
>>14842593
nah

>>14842593
More cargo farther up front only makes the vehicle more stable, in both modes of flight (ascending and descending). There's a reason they moved both header tanks way up there.

>>14842599
well that space is in the nose tapper isn't it

>>14842604
learn to read you fucking moron. if you are unable to understand the english language you shouldn't be posting here.

were there even any 3rd party videographers there to document the flight? I want to see what happened to the bottom vehicle.

>>14842331
>Gwynne in a bikini at Kwajalein
fug..

>>14842612
There were skinny dipping there.

>>14842606
Nope it’s super secret mate

>>14842606
>>14842606
Of course not, it's BO dude.

>>14842539
It's bigger than Skylab, 9m vs 6.6m.

>>14842612
God dammit I thought you were replying to a post with a picture like that which I had somehow missed, now I'm blueballed THANKS

>>14842591
AdS-CFT correspondence is pretty promising.

>>14842621
Yeah, but you need a lot of food and water for that 3-month trip.

>>14841565
Mesopotamian Gods names yo. Too many greek god names, infrequent Norse god names, zero Mesopotamian god names.

>>14842539
You should see some of the proposals for Venus and Mars flybys in the 70s and 80s

I fear that there are too many people that want starship to fail (at least as a manned vehicle).

Im sure that they’ll get the landing reliability to be better than Falcon 9.

But it would take only one failed starship landing outside the testing phase (even if it’s uncrewed) for certain people to use it as an excuse to start bitching.

>>14842605
cargo space starts at the nose taper, not after it.

>>14842632
Those people are:
>oldspace competitors
>TSLAQ shorters aka "skeptics"
>tankies
Only the former is somehow relevant, due to their political connections.

>>14842618
>>14842619
I know it's bumfuck nowhere New Mexico, but you could watch it for miles around. Literally nobody showed up with even a smartphone to record it?

SFG: talks about BO abort for the last 3 hours
also SFG: completely ignores B7 abort

>>14842625
Yeah humans only eat about their own body mass in food per month. For a 2.5 year round trip and six people that weigh 175 pounds each you need roughly 14.5 metric tons of food, which leaves over 130 tons of available mass budget to use for living space furnishings and water and entertainment resources and spare parts and backup units and payloads such as surface-use tools and suits and vehicles. Basically food aint an issue.

>>14842636
It starts more than ten meters below the taper. The cargo volume of Starship takes up nearly half the total length of the vehicle.

>>14842627
Taranis

The Celtic God of the Sun, Sky, and Thunder. Represented by the chariot wheel.

>>14842645
water also isn't an issue because it'll use a closed loop recycling system like the ISS.

>>14842641
Evidently not. Why would they anyway? NS flights are boring as fuck.

>>14842642
What B7 abort? Did they spin up the pumps and then shut it down?

>>14842650
Correct, and they'll also be able to easily pack along ten tons of the stuff, plus sextuple backup water reprocessing units. I've said it many times before, everything about life support gets far easier the bigger your spacecraft is. Starship will be bigger, internally, than the ISS, and won't rely on resupply from very mass and space limited vehicles like Dragon or Starliner or whatever.

>>14842655

>>14842660
Why use up more of the image budget anon, use your words

>>14842662

>>14842660
Thats not an abort retard

>>14842665
They aborted the tanking process.

>>14842645
>roughly 14.5 metric tons of food
and a good chunk of that is water, dehydrated food saves a lot of mass and volume

>>14842669
It's not an abort

>>14842676
Why?

>>14841024
don't forget the names of SF authors, Heinlein, Asimov, Banks, Adams, etc.

>>14842660
De tank boss, de tank!

>>14842674
All food sent to Mars shall be in the form of soups and stews canned inside of glass mason jars, for the rustic atmosphere mental health benefits and also because space is hard and many American jobs depend on it staying hard

>>14842678

>>14842642
>abort
There has to be a count for there to be an abort. Please tell us what the T-minus time was when this abort happened.

>>14842691
T-26 minutes

>>14842683
Also live animals (deer, moose etc), since hunting is good for the soul and mind. Imagine the morale boost of hunting down a buck on Mars.

/sfg/: semantics fuckery general

>>14842693
>source: it came to me in a dream

>>14842700
I made it up.

>>14842691
they had their internal count faggot

>>14842696
Martian wildlife would probably look weird and lanky

>>14842660
this thing had more abortions than SLS

>>14841358
welp, it certainly made history, just not as intended

>>14842346
kek

The snail jew is mad
https://www.getrevue.co/profile/andrewparsonson/issues/arianegroup-boss-throws-shade-1343991?via=twitter-card&client=DesktopWeb&element=issue-card

>>14842708
We should bring rhinos to Mars, imagine a 3000 pound rhino sprinting and leaping through the air like a gazelle, and actually having the stout bone structure and bone density needed to survive a crash landing.

>>14842727
holy fuck they are seething. Pissed that their Ariane 6 isn't going to be the commercial slam-dunk they had planned for I guess, hahahahaha

>>14842727
god damn how did the pr people let a statement like that go out that's an optics nightmare.

>>14842727
>we encourage nothing in terms of innovation

>>14842727
>small launchers in Europe
Good luck trying to get permits to fly over such a densely populated region.
The only way to launch from Germany would be over the Baltic, and even then you're limited to fly over the sea. I guess that might be easier if you have a steerable first stage.

I don't really see most of these micro-launchers going anywhere, maybe only the satellite builders might get some funding.

>>14842753
Both Isar Aerospace and RFA are launching their first rockets from Andoya, Norway. Isar's second launch will take place in French Guyana.

>>14842753
>Good luck trying to get permits
are you deranged? there's plenty of parts of europe that work for launching rockets. the euros are overly legalistic and bureacratic but they can and are building out launch sites

>>14842753
Build an artificial island launch site off of the southwestern coast of Sicily. Launch towards Israel.
If Israel can launch over the Mediterranean on a retrograde trajectory, Euros can launch West along the same track.