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Why haven't mathematicians invented a new kind of imaginary numbers as a solution to this?

>> No.14834787

>>14834779
They have but it's not useful.

>> No.14834788
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14834788

>>14834779
why haven't scientists discovered a pill to let your mom abort you?
it's meaningless
do something worthwhile and create something useful
but why are you obsessed with / 0?
- 0 is just as stupid
and
+ 0
they do nothing
/ 0 is meaningless
and * 0 is just a dead end.
maybe there's some symmetry there
maybe there's another operation that's right in front of us that's not an addition or an addition of an negative number
maybe we can inflate numbers and suck their dicks in 20 dimensions
would that make you happy?

>> No.14834789

Dividing 1 by 10 means you are subtracting 0.1 from 1 ten times. Subtracting zero from 1 gets you nowhere

>> No.14834795

>>14834789
It gets me infinity boy-o

>> No.14834801

>>14834779
projective space basically.
The real issue is 0/0

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>>14834779

>> No.14834804

if [math]0.000...[/math] isn't a number then neither is [math]0.333...[/math].

>> No.14834808

>>14834779
>Why haven't mathematicians invented a new kind of imaginary numbers as a solution to this?
They have.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projectively_extended_real_line#Arithmetic_operations

>> No.14834818

>>14834787
in order to be useful, multiplication by zero would have to be bijective. By insisting it's surjective, it remains meaningless to consider its inverse.

what we call "zero" must clearly be a set of distinct numbers, and not just one number

>> No.14834820

I dunno, how would you like to describe one of nothing?

>> No.14834821

>>14834779
Because no consist such an extension can exist. You can get something that stretches the definition of what division is, as in >>14834808, but those turn out to be quite useless -- exactly because it needs to stretch the definition of "division" to be well-defined at all.

>> No.14834849

>>14834821
>Because no consist such an extension
No consistent such an extension, derp. Never try to reword your sentences, everyone. It does not end well.

>> No.14834850

>>14834779
I did
[eqn]\frac{1}{0} = \exists [/eqn]
[eqn]\frac{-1}{0} = -\exists [/eqn]
[eqn]\frac{i}{0} = i\exists [/eqn]
and so on.

>> No.14835058

>>14834779
It's this simple: you can't divide a pie into 0 pieces.

>> No.14835859

>>14834779
Isn't it just a set that contains all sets, including itself infinitely recursing?

>> No.14835865

>>14834779
>Why haven't mathematicians invented a new kind
Its called "a wheel" and the answer is
[eqn]1\div0=\,\perp[/eqn]

>> No.14835866

>>14835058
hole pie ain't a peace
ezpz nerd

>> No.14836151

>>14834779
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxpowBoPieQ

>> No.14836167

>>14836151
Holy fuck is this bad. This has nothing to do with the division of zero.

>> No.14836171

>>14836167
>division of zero
0/1=0

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14836179

>>14836171
by zero*

>> No.14836182

>>14834850
[math] -\exists=-\frac{1}{0}=\frac{1}{-0}=\frac{1}{0}=\exists = \frac{1}{0}=\frac{i/i}{0/i}=\frac{i}{0}=i\exists [/math]
That's why projective infinity is unsigned

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>>14836182
interesting

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>>14834850
>>14836182

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>>14834789
Dividing 1 by 10 means you are subtracting 0.1 from 1 ten times.

>> No.14838453

>>14834779
do we need more useless shit by mathematicians?

>> No.14838461

>>14838447
but its true. you can't disprove this faggot

>> No.14838532

>>14838461
1 - 0.1 - 0.1 - 0.1 - 0.1 - 0.1 - 0.1 - 0.1 - 0.1 - 0.1 - 0.1 = 0
1/ 10 = 0.1

>> No.14838580

>>1483480
>>14834808
From a very young age I and all my classmates each intuitively understood that dividing by zero gives infinity, yet at every stage of education our teachers would insist that we were wrong, that there is no answer, and would give no explanation. Now I find out that the answer is exactly what we knew all along - exactly what you would immediately get from any child being presented with this question for the first time. What shocking discovery will we see next?

>> No.14838979

>>14834779
I have 10 dollars. I want to divide it up amongst no friends. How many dollars am I left with. 10. It is meaningless

>> No.14839008

>>14838580
I doubt you guys explicitly considered the left right limits and concluded that an unsigned infinity was the answer but the point is that you're teacher is still right in saying that 1/0 is undefined in R because it actually is, just like 4-5 is undefined in N

>> No.14839020

>>14834808
Infinity - infinity is zero, god damn mathfags are so retarded it's unreal. Also dividing by zero returns infinity it's literally in the IEEE spec which is a highest authority.

>> No.14839057

>>14838532
So?

>> No.14839065

>>14838979
>I have 10 dollars. I want to divide it up amongst no friends.
I have 10 dollars. I want to divide it up amongst 0.1 friends. Did you even finish highschool?

>> No.14839465

>>14834779
They have. It's called undetermined. Stop being retarded.

>> No.14840450

>>14839465
>They have. It's called undetermined. Stop being retarded.
Lol. Lmao even.

>> No.14840467

>>14834779
Lim (1/X) as X->0 is approximated to infinity, divide one by smaller and smaller fractions and see what the trend is.

>> No.14840473

>>14834787
This. Complex numbers are insanely cool and useful. Transfinite numbers are useless and gay.

>> No.14840485

>>14834789
/sci/ is the dumbest board on this website.

>> No.14841014

>>14834779
It's only absurd in some of the lower dimensions. In higher dimensions division by zero is sort of like projection.
1 and 0 are the same number. That's how the computer self-existed in the beginning. A prerequisite to any computation...

>> No.14841111

>>14840473
literally all they need to do is make 1/0 not a retarded gaping hole, who cares if they're functionally useless

>> No.14841219

>>14839020
>Infinity - infinity is zero
nope

1/inf = 0
1 + inf = inf
1 - inf = -inf
inf + inf = inf
inf/inf undefined
inf - inf undefined
1^inf undefined

>> No.14841380

>>14839020
>it's literally in the IEEE spec which is a highest authority.

Lel, go back to your filthy /g/ you uncultured engeneer.

>> No.14841471

>>14840485
No, that's /lit/, then /sci/, then all the gay, pedo and furry dedicated boards, and then probably /a/ or /int/

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14842250

GAEM OBER

>> No.14843026

>>14841219
>1/inf = 0
lmao

>> No.14843043

what if 0/0 = 1.
Thus 2/0 = 2 * 0/0 = 2
and 0/2 = 0/0 *(1/2) = 1/2 kek
ok

just x/0 = 1

>> No.14843048

>>14842250
Just define the magic number ¤ as the solution to x = x + 1.
That's what they did in complex algebra kek

>> No.14843072

>>14843026
>oooohh a doctor
take your meds