/sci/ - Science & Math

makes me wonder whats for breakfast

Why worry about it? You have no control. The world is deterministic. :(

>>14823632
>I get why people believe in a god , this shit is pretty brutal.
>The world is deterministic. :(
Jeez. The state of /sci/. Let me guess. 19 years old, just about to go to college for your first year and read the first half of a Nietzsche book?

>makes a "free will" isn't real and there is no immortal soul thread
>can't deny or refute this without talking about religion or spirituality
>religion and spiritual talk isn't allowed on /sci/

Did you chose to make this thread on /sci/ because you DON'T want to have a conversation about it?

>>14823632
Some people choose to believe things because it makes them feel good. Some of us are not so naive.

>>14823835
>Some of us are not so naive.
Not a thing.

>>14823672
I have literally taken junior year classical mechanics. Fuck off psued.

>>14823838
Do you believe in unicorns?

>>14823835
This is not an argument for or against free will and life after death.
Your argument can be used for pro/con for either of these 2 topics.

>>14823887
No.

>>14823902
Good.

>>14823632
>Good.
But they exist

>>14823887
Moron, everybody knows unicorns are extinct.

>>14823632
Refuted by open individualism

>>14823672
Neet Chan literally deboonked determinism retard

>>14823632
It is far more rational to believe you exist for a reason than believing professional liars on globohomo payroll.
"We have them all in our bags, politicians, media and especially the experts and scientists‼" Klaus Schwab.

>>14823835

Its not belief but more like you know deep down that God watches over you every day. Its like you know but you have no concrete proof because how can you prove to average retard atheist that what he is currently experiencing is gods creation and what he sees in front of himself is God itself. How can people like that ever understand

>>14823632
>life is mostly determined by genetics and environmental factors you cannot control
This is a pretty telling statement because only people who have never played sports or went to the gym believe this. You can control your life, stop whining.

>>14823632
>>once you die, you're gone forever
this makes atheists the most vile animals

if you accept this as a fact there's nothing you'll stop at when fighting for survival

>>14823632
Free will is real but if God requires that you make another choice than the one your will dictates, he has time travel resources to iteratively revise history until your circumstance becomes the one in which you comply with his will.

The "gone forever" view of death relies on a picture of a 3D universe when, in fact, the universe is 4D. Points in 4D spacetime labeled (x1,x2,x3,x4) are called "events" and the events of one's life continue to exist forever, even after the event of one's death. The constituency of such events are one's "immortal soul." After you die, people with time machines (directed by God) can always revise your timeline which is the sequence of all the events in your life. They can make it better or worse.

Life is determined in large part by your environment, e.g.: your lot in life, but God judges you when you die to see what you did with what you were given. Each time God changes history, the timeline's of some are made better and those of others are made worse. Part of the evil in the world today is that Satan's rebellion against God also used revisions to history and present environmentmal conditions do not presently reflect God's goodness or necesarily a state of justice. The world is given into Satan's hand until the end of the age at which time the wrongs will be righted. So, even while one's present timeline should be assumed as the revision of a previous timeline, all timelines in this age of the earth are written by God and Satan jointly. Not until the end of the age and the coming of God's Messiah will the timelines be set by God alone.

>>14825584
The Time Travel Interpretation of the Bible
>https://vixra.org/abs/2104.0068
We describe the Biblical work of ages as a time travel program for saving humanity from extinction. God's existence is proven as a consequence of the existence of time travel, which is supposed. We present the case that Abraham's grandson Jacob, also called Israel, is Satan. We make the case that the Israelites are described as God's chosen people in the Bible despite their identity as the children of Satan because God's Messiah is descended from Abraham through Satan. They are chosen as the ancestors of the Messiah rather than as Satan's children. We propose an interpretation in which God commanded Abraham to kill his son Isaac to prevent Isaac from becoming the father of Satan. We suggest that God stayed Abraham's hand above Isaac because preventing the existence of Satan would also prevent the existence of Satan's descendant the Messiah. The history of the Israelites is summarized through Jesus and Paul. This paper is written so that the number of believers in the world will increase.

>>14825531
What created God?

>>14825640
God is that thing which never began and has always existed.
>>>/x/

>>14823632
If it's one and done it's the easiest one to accept. The problem I have is what evidence do you have that it is one and done and not a forever cycle like literally how everything in the universe seems to operate? Tide go in tide go out, forever.