/sci/ - Science & Math

>>14823267
idk.
the ridiculous size of the universe is really beautiful to me.

>>14823267
There's almost nothing of everything. Most of the space is empty, and those areas who happen to have matter, they're also empty because an atom is mostly empty space

>>14823278
>10^53 kg of ordinary matter in the observable universe is almost nothing because space exists
?

>>14823267
"Everything happens so much."

>another contentless slide thread

>>14823267
its not real, you are looking at a 3D hologram that surrounds the Earth.

>>14823500
FE singularity reached. Thread closed.

>surround the Earth with a wall, humans get curious about whats on the other side.
>surround the Earth with an illusion and tell them its impossible to reach, humans accept it as fact and give up trying to see whats on the other side.

the best plans are the simplest

>>14823534
>muh simulator made the sky to lie to humans
onions redditor

>>14823267
When you dream isnt your dream infinite? So is the creators dream and you are in it and it is all there is and it is infinite

>>14823602
>When you dream isnt your dream infinite?
uh no

>>14823534
That's retarded considering we've sent probes into interstellar space.

>>14823284
Not when the volume of the universe is around 10^81 m^3. That's something like an average density of 1 hydrogen atom per cubic meter.

>>14823615
uh yes, not the time you spent dreaming, the real estate within it you simple fuck

>>14823615
>responding to namefags
kek

>>14823630
still no

>>14823634
>my imagination has borders
you are stupid stfu and kys

>>14823267

It's a mystery

>>14823534
Is the white part just like 100s of cubic light years of pure gas?

It is interesting that a motif of galaxies is flat spiral; if Galaxy materials were big banged all topsy turvy would they settle into flat spirals? Instead of spherical galaxies for instance?

Maybe non spiral galaxies are topsy turvy galaxies groups of star paths orbiting like the old atom electrons classic image, that all the various star paths collided and so resulted in more of a meandering floating as a group of groups

>>14823534
Can someone or NASA can they make official images without all the gas and stuff?

It would be very nice and intersting to see what this image looks like if only the stars are shown (and galaxies). How could would that be, just to clearly see the dotted position of every star only

>>14823624
This. If you choose an area of the universe at random, it's more likely to be empty

>14823714
>14823719
This is the animal locomotion schizo. Avoid at all cost.

>>14823534
Who created this illusion?

>>14823267
Where did the something in the beginning come from?

>>14823534
Care to explain what you think is on the other side of the alleged "wall"?
Or how your version of the universe is roughly the size of just 1 planet?

>>14823267
Its all very far away and tiny, to reach it, you have to expend a ton of energy to render frames that make it appear you are closer to it.

>>14823723
the animation researcher only upsets you because you're not intellectually capable of participating in those threads. the animation researcher posts more interesting content than you do. your complaints about other's posts could only be justified if you were bringing some grade A content to the table, which you are not.

>>14823278
You have such primitive thinking, space is something.

>>14824670
An infinite flat plane with pockets of livable area.

>>14823275
same but for size of my dong

Life is truly pretty meaningless right? There is so much of the universe and the earth is so small compared to it that it seems weird that we can think God wants us to live here and that we have a mission. We are obviously apes living until we reach extinction like 99 percent of other life forms to ever have existed. Depressing huh?

>>14824837
Why is it an infinite flat plane, rather than an infinite 3D space? How much uhhh... "room for movement" is there, above that plane? Why is the infinite plane flat even though you're moving around in a 3D space right now?

>>14823719
Yes, use an image that doesn't use visible light, such as radio. It's not pretty though but it gets around the dust.

>>14823721
If you choose a number at random it probably isn't prime, that doesn't mean there are basically no prime numbers, its more likely there are infinite prime numbers despite their small density in the number system.

>>14824868
>Why is it an infinite flat plane, rather than an infinite 3D space?
Because there is no difference between and infinite flat 3d plane and an infinite 3d space because an infinite flat 3d plane is a type of infinite 3d space.

>>14824867
Depressing? Get that glass half empty shit out of here. Life is fucking amazing, and the fact I get to experience it in such clarity and detail and can understand the happenings of the universe (an experience that, however you wish to look at it, is incredibly rare) is fucking amazing to me. Can't wait to die, as I know full well that the universe gave me an amazing time, even if it was filled with misery and despair. Beats being a rock.

>>14824933
>Beats being a rock
i'd rather be a rock flying through the space desu

>>14824937
patience.

>>14824933
>can understand the happenings of the universe
kek, you don't understand anything or you wouldn't need to use someone else's arbitrary symbols to poorly approximate your own experience, you are a parrot whose feathers have been plucked to make you more domesticated.

>>14824879
Hm thank you. But I'm thinking more, perfectly representin the location of each star as a dot, with nothing else, that's all blurry and stuff, just crystal clear points plotted on a perspective grid

>>14823267
Look how it looks like there are orbitals a ring of stars, space, ring of stars, yes spiral, but this one almost concentric circle rings

>>14823688
just like the mystery of who asked for your faggot opinion neckbeard

>>14823267
You call it everything cause its everything, if it wouldn't we would call it nothingness.

>>14827259
Yeah but why are there so many galaxies and atoms, instead of like 99999 and 999999999999999999999999

Or 999 and 9999999999999999

Or 99 and 9999999999

>>14823267
lots of space, lots of stuff

there isnt much stuff in most of space though, so it's not that impressive after all, we just live in an interesting clump of matter

>>14823688
So god favors the galaxy GOODS J123753.40+621539.7? But not the milky way?

>>14824937
ynwbarr

>>14823534
Damn they had sick photoshop skills in 1881, why hasn't NASA hired these guys?

>>14827083
You would need a very large telescope to pull that off

>>14823267
My question is if you go from current smallest theoretical whatever (plank length etc) to the biggest theoretical whatever (hubble sphere, light cone etc) where are we in the middle? Closer to which side?

>>14823267
It only seems like a lot because we're so small.

>>14823275
Personally, I find it depressing. It just means that we are so insignificant.

>>14827763
wow that's totally real and not fake bullshit made by late 19th century occultists

>>14827763
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbrush
Its called airbrushing and techniques were publicly available by 1876.

>>14824933
>and can understand the happenings of the universe
How does gravity work

>>14828156
Apple go boink and make ouch.

>>14823267
>so much of everything?
>everything i mostly empty space
What did he mean by this?

>>14828161
>>everything i mostly empty space
There is still a lot of it, there is so much of everything that even nothing is over-represented.

>>14828161
mostly dark matter*

>>14828159
why apple go boink?

>>14827767
>You would need a very large telescope t
Because from far away the stars blur together? Partially because they overlap, partially because their light makes them look bigger, partially because too few pixels?

Can't the image just be translated into point plotting on a 3d perspective graph?

They roughly know where all the stars are, just translate them into black dots on a white grid background, I just want to see purely what the body point location stars orientation looks like

>>14827985
>implying you can't see the orion nebula with your own eyes

>14828857
>>14823723

>>14827762
fucking petrophobe bigot

>>14823267
It was inherited from the past.

>>14824661
From the first state.

>>14827960
God made all this for our enjoyment. You should be happy about it.

>>14827960
Jesus Christ doesn't think so.
>>14830711
brother! God is good!

>>14823267
There isnt. They're from a previous expansion

>>14830711
Can you tell God I'm not enjoying it very much

>>14823267
Why does each star look like it has an aura around a much brighter core?

>>14823267
The true shape of reality isn't given by some natural number pointing to some amount of a given defined stuff; but instead by finite fields, which reduce infinity to manageable chunks.
Commonly, finite fields work on modulo arithmetic. This means if you have an infinity, if you take it modulo some natural number, you have now totally reduced it to a finite number, yielding an opportunity for physical small-scale meaningfulness.

>>14823275
It's so big yet we are stuck in this gravity well fighting over the last drops of oil in the ground while there exists enough galaxies for every person to own multiple.

>>14828639
why apple?

>>14831688
how apple?

>>14830762
You should probably go to Church and do some praying.

>>14831688
why?

>>14823688
Yet I'm at the center of the universe.
Care to explain, atheist?

>>14827985
>>14828132

Buy a telescope you retarded mutts

Sure is a mystery they managed to draw a nebula with 100% accuracy in the 1800's

>>14823267
my dick is huge
try to explain that one mormons
you can't
i'd love to go to BYU and soak with some mormon lasses
if I convince them it's not fucking, maybe they'll let me soak them in front of their boyfriends
i'd love to see their shiteating grin
> it's not really cheating
fuck
then just tense my dick as much as i can and explode a 9kt jizz tsar bomb riiight up against her cervix and ...
wait, what was the question?
pareto distributions and the universe is almost empty

>>14835020
i love the idea tho that at higher speeds the consistency of the universe changed
so you can have a bussard ramjet
the cosy show red dwarf has this, I like the idea

>>14823275
It depresses me, not because of our insignificants within it, but because the unlikelihood of me or any single person in my blood line, or even, our species will get to see anything outside of our solar system, here is one of the first reasons why.

>It is an index of the techies' self-deception that they habitually assume that anything they consider desirable will actually be done when it becomes technically feasible. Of course, there are lots of wonderful things that already are and for a long time have been technically feasible, but don't get done. Intelligent people have said again and again: "How easily men could make things much better than they are—if they only all tried together!"[9] But people never do "all try together," because the principle of natural selection guarantees that self-propagating systems will act mainly for their own survival and propagation in competition with other self-propagating systems, and will not sacrifice competitive advantages for the achievement of philanthropic goals.[

But to fill that void in my soul that wishes to explore the cosmos and everything in it at every conservable level I do yuge quantity's of DMT when I have a weekend off. I know everything I see on it is very likely not real, like less than .000001% chance, but it feels real enough to me and that's all that really matters.

>>14823719
apparently

>>14823267
Something no one has addressed.
If all of the matter in the universe was compressed so that all atoms were touching each other (like in a Neutron star), then how big would that "mass" of matter be? Could all of the matter in universe be squished to the size of a single Galaxy? Could it be even smaller than that? Or would it be even more massive?
The "Big Bang" works as a mathematical equation, but it doesn't seem to work in a practical sense since ALL of that mass together would be larger than thousands (or millions) of black holes that were so large they collapsed into black holes themselves.
But we're not allowed to ask questions like these, since physicists don't like answering "we don't know" and instead would rather revert to pseudoscience or mathematical theories.

>>14836415
I like how this guy admits that "we don't know." https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/according-to-the-big-bang/

>>14836415
I want every quark, laid out, and inventoried, now! "oh but these are bonded together" IDGAF that's why we gave you the StrongForce shears.

>>14823534
>>surround the Earth with an illusion and tell them its impossible to reach, humans accept it as fact and give up trying to see whats on the other side.
But that's not what happened.

>>14827414
There's actually 0.999...

>>14823534
>humans accept it as fact and give up trying to see whats on the other side.
I'm reasonably sure astronomers haven't given up trying to see distant shit.

>>14823267
If you look at how huge the universe is and how empty it is, it's not much.

>>14823267
Because the blacks haven't gotten around to stealing it yet.

>>14827255
You sound awfully insecure and triggered for a supposedly god-fearing person.

How can there be so much of nothing?

>>14824933
You have a nice outlook on life :)
I love you anon 14824933, I feel kinda the same way same, you are like me. :)

>>14824867
This anon 14824867, you have to understand that you are here for the experience here on EARTH. The experience of being human. The rest of the universe and the other planets are irrelevant to us here -- that's why God put them far away -- so we can focus on our own world.
Also, we are not small. Earth is the center of action and attention amongst the stars. Your life is unimaginably important. I love you also anon 14824867 :)

The meaning of life IS life. Think deeply about what that means: The goal of life IS life. Life is its own goal. It wants to live and play and enjoy itself and others.

I like the experience. I want to struggle, not be afraid to make mistakes, strive to better myself, challenge myself, have fun and enjoy things, find friends and others similar to me, ect. I want to live life.

>>14835162
I have also thought about this idea where "self-propagating systems will act mainly for their own survival and propagation in competition with other self-propagating systems", and it has also worried me that it might be true.

But the truth is different.

The good is the only thing that can survive. Those who corporate and work with others are going to be the most successful. Societies and successful time periods throughout history have been when the people are not greedy and the quality of life is better and people corporated for some idealistic mutual good. Organizations and enterprises which are more good OUTCOMPETE those organizations which are evil and ect. The probability of your survival goes up the more good you are.

Look at the trend-line of humanity.
Things in general have gotten more good and quality of life everywhere has gotten better every generation. Things are improving. The trend-line LITERALLY shows that things are improving, slowly, but surely.

WHY THE FUCK DOES ANDROMEDA LOOK LIKE A SMUDGE IN MY TELESCOPE
WHY ARE HUMAN EYEBALLS SO FUCKING BAD AT SUCKING UP LIGHT

FUCK YOU الله YOU LAZY CUNT

>>14838470
>Organizations and enterprises which are more good OUTCOMPETE those organizations which are evil and ect.
And also inb4 in regard to when I said this, I expect that someone is going to reply and point to the state of the world today and say that I am wrong bc greedy billionaires and ect of today's time are successful.

Ha.

They are only successful due to nepotism and inheritance. Meaning their mommies and daddies gave them that money.
99% of the elites on the top of society today have EVER experienced true work and true struggle, they did not acquire their wealth via their own merit.
And thus, they are unskilled, hedonistic, materialistic, incompetent, stupid, nonappreciative of what they have, and so... oh so easily able to be outcompeted.

I would not worry about them.

>>14823534

>>14838480
>I would not worry about them.
the meek shall inherit the Earth?

>>14827960
>we are so insignificant
Do you really think any of this would exist without a consciousness to experience it?

Do you think if a tree falls in the woods and there isn't anyone around to hear it, does it make a sound?


So now tell me, is it consciousness that is insignificant, or is it existence itself that is insignificant. With material reality being a fabrication and contained wholly within the mind.

>>14838749

>>14839620
>But $27+$2=$29, not $30
Debunked. 27 already includes the 2 that went to the porter and the 25 that went to the manager. The other 3 went back to the patrons.

>>14838749
>Do you really think any of this would exist without a consciousness to experience it?
lol, yup. The primacy of human consciousness is an artifact. First we shook off the creationist dogmas, we're in the process of shaking off the anthropocentric dogmas. Consciousness is nothing special. A bit faster of a hunter-gatherer computer that does some recursive and reflexive bullshit. Nothing special. Interacts with reality in the most superficial way, as though to make the conscious actor feel "something profound is happening!"

It's not.

>>14839620
the men paid 27 dollar total but 2 of those went the the bellboy and they currently have 3 dollars left. I dont get this problem.

>>14839828
great job anon, now let's talk about Brandolini principle

>>14839855
How would you know if something exists or not if there isn't a consciousness to experience it. There is a copy of this universe out there outside of this one except it's devoid of any consciousness. For all intents and purposes it doesn't exist because you can't have an existence without consciousness. Everything that exists is defined by some relation to the conscious experience. Existence lies within the realm of consciousness.

>>14839952
Low IQ take.

>>14839952
The same way it existed before there was consciousness to experience it. Rain falls on rock. Sunlight bleaches dead leaves. Just because some upjumped ape came along and said "this all must be for ME!" doesn't make it so.

>>14839965
An even lower-IQ take. No such forms exist independently from the minds that perceive them.

actually it's not much, just many

>>14823267
how much of it can we interact with vs. just observe?

I live on Fyn, it is a 3000km^2 island. It may not seem like much to some but last year I have been exploring it lots and lots on my bike and I doubt I have even seen 10% of it. One day I will finally finish exploring it, and maybe then I can ride a spaceship to the planet Stephano that orbits Uranus, which is estimated to have the surface area of another Fyn; adventure begins annew! After that I might will feel I have seen it all, but if I keep going to the edge of the solar system I could bump into the planet FarFarOut, which is a mad 167 fyns more, exploration for the rest of my days! And yet both those places are too "small" to even be mentioned individually in this fun map. Not that I really need to go there, when Earth is 51000 fyns, and that's not even including all the sea.

Someone made a beautiful video showing off the island, I don't think it gets anywhere near showing 10% of the place either:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P6RtJwEkWQ
When I reached Kerteminde I thought of it as "The town at the end of the world", but really there is so much more of it.

>>14839965
helIo reddit

>>14823267
I view it less like there's a ton of stuff in the universe and more as a function with an infinite output or infinite parameters.

The universe is infinite and seems like there's so much to us, but even a tiny spec of dust, something so small, is also infinite. You can inspect it further and further on a quantum scale, you can get down to the smallest spec of matter and realize that if that spec exists, there must also exist a size one half of that spec for it to consist of.

As much as the universe is infinitely large, it is also infinitely small.

>>14823267
Pretty puny compared to 1000 universes

>>14823267
THE SAME WAY THEIR CAN BE SO MUCH OF NOTHING

HAVE FUN BELIEVING IN SHIT PURPOSELY MEANT TO DRIVE YOU INSANE AND RETARDED.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Pw5qB5mohAvn/

>>14838442
all god does is limit your brain like this folk right here.

>>14831680
>one day, over all this fighting, we might nit have enough resources for space exploration.
Kinda depressing

>>14823688
Who took those photos?

>>14842964
Nothing along with empty space is just another thing that adds to everything, so why is there so much of it all?