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>>14819983>They're the motors for literally our only land based ICBMs we have left.Space Shuttle / SLS SRBs are much bigger than Minutemans, they aren't the same motor. They are made by the same company though.
>>14819984Yo! a SpaceX Dragon 1 on the cover of Nature Fag!
https://youtu.be/NONM-xsKMSs
>>14820017>its yet another backwards booster landingWho even cares.
If all goes nominally, 18 separate orbital rocket designs will launch this month.Falcon 9 Block 5Kuaizhou 1AAriane 5RS1AlphaLong March 7AElectronSoyuz 2.1aDelta IV HeavySLSSoyuz 2.1bPSLV-CALauncherOneJielong-1Kuaizhou 11Terran 1Long March 11AAtlas V 531ZhuQue-2
WE ARE
Highly recommendhttps://youtu.be/KW8Vjs84Fxg
>>14820038 GOING OVER THE DATA
>>14820038going to see Starship fly to orbit before SLS, in Q1 2023
Good morning I hate Earthers (derogatory)
>>14820038STAAN
>>14820038are drunk in old town scottsdale fuuuuuuuuuuck
>>14820037Won't all this rocket engine fire heat up the atmosphere?
I'm starting to doubt we'll ever see SLS fly
>>14820099swap out sls with starship and yeah u rite
>>14820021They're no longer novel but still fun to watch. Though on this one is probably gonna be too dark to see much.
>>14820099STS scrubbed all the time, hydrogen is gay
Do you reckon /sci/ will give diversity any credit when the mission succeeds?
>>14820116Well it IS running on Colored People Time now.
>>14820116congratulations to the blwck peoploli will clap hardtrust
>>14820038BLAMING HYDROGEN
>>14820116I give diversity plenty of credit for the mission already
Just send it on something that works.
>>14820142Put it inside an expendable Starship, that'd be a good trick
>>14820156I don't think a falcon heavy could fit inside a starship
>>14819984FTS Archivehttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KCJBL632oieD1r6JOh_5Eg9NTcf_-hH8?usp=sharing
>>14819851>I do not believe Astra's in-house chemical rocket engine dev teams can actually make a pump fed design from scratchWhat the fuck. Some fag from the spaceflight general on a Romanian kettle boiling forum built an engine with a box of scraps. Hell, someone from Reddit also built an engine, complete with simulations and fabrication. And you're telling me some company on NASDAQ with teams of engineers can't do it themselves?
>>14820162You could just barely fit all of Orion plus the ICPS in there with room to spare. It wouldn't fit the EUS though, and of course there's no abort mode. Maybe if they cut off the top and kept the LAS?
>>14820175The upper stage team is full of complete shitbags that fucked up the Aether engine and never accepted responsibility for their consistent prop leaks on LV0007 through LV0010. I wouldn't trust them to assemble Ikea furniture. The first stage team did fine with Delphin (electric pumped proonted engine for Rocket 3) but the decision to hire out for a Reaver license paints a grim picture of the engine team's ability to design big boy engines from scratch.
>>14819984Are they retarded?
>>14820208I am.
>>14820208>>14820210It's just like wrong. CH4 is harder to produce on Mars than H2.
>>14820211Sabatier says what
uh oh
>>14820099Some pieces of it may reach an appreciable altitude
>>14820211Perhaps he meant it's eaiser to produce on Mars [than on the moon]
>>14820208>need O2>get free H2 from the same process>CH4 is easier than H2What did he mean by this?
>>14820218>implyingthis is the state of /sfg/
>>14820180Just make a cheap stage adapter for Superheavy and stick Orion+ICPS/EUS on it. Probably don't even really need Starship.
>>14820233
>>14820211>It's just like wrong. CH4 is harder to produce on Mars than H2.There's more to ISRU than production; you gotta store that shit, and for years at a time.
Steel is harder to produce than wood and yet it's much more popular.
>>14820238It works in Kerbal Space Program
>>14820246Wood is less durable than steel and yet it's much more poplar.
>>14820208>>14820229he just can't stop lying
>>14820255CARLOS
>>14820255I remember reading how wood is actually ideal space material because it doesnt burn or decompose in space
>>14820281yeah faggots love to say faggot shit like that.steel and aluminium work just fine too and they have 8x the tensile strength.
>>14820281Wasn't there a meme cubesat a while ago whose gimmick was that it was made of wood?
>>14820272>he just can't stop lyingThe absolute state of Hydromemers
>>14820298WISA plywood satellite. Sort of a semi-serious test done by KitSat, Arctic Astronautics, and UPM's WISA plywood companyThey were supposed to launch last year, but since they were relying on Rocket Lab to launch it, it ran into delays
>>14820311Also an odd addition, Jamie Hyneman works at the University where this is being developed
>>14820322fuck
>family keeps asking me why NASA didn't launch the rocket>say it's jobs program not a space program >look a me like I'm a conspiracy tardhow do you layman SLS being shit
>>14820331Point out how much faster Mercury to Apollo was and say SLS's delays are either on purpose or proof that women and blacks are inferior. Watch their brains short out.
>>14820281nothing burns in vacuumI kinda doubt it doesn't decompose under heavy UV and 150°C or whatever it gets under direct sunlightprobably better than plain old plastic though
>>14820343iirc they're pressure treating it or something
I’m calling it now, that new site across from boring company in Texas is going to specialize in producing interior components for manned starships, deployed habitats, and any other structures/ vehicles needed for lunar and Martian colonization. It seems outlandish at first but think about what other facilities SpaceX needs that they don’t already have. Everything needed for manufacturing a standard starship already has multiple facilities built or in the works. The only major things left are the types of things that could be integrated into starship as a final step. It might seem early to start construction on a facility specializing in components for manned starships/ habitats, but that HLS contract is nearing the phase that mission hardware needs to be built, and even the demonstration HLS requires an accurate representation of the real thing, even on the interior, as did the manned dragon demos. It’s location makes perfect sense for something like that, instead of building it in the middle of nowhere by the launch site itself, you can build it near the supply lines and urban places for workers to live. Throw the module on a double wide oversized load truck to boca or Kennedy when it’s done.
>>14820331show them this pictureSLS is so overpriced the number alone is inconceivable to most peopleit's like trying to explain people who buy lottery tickets that they are never going to win
>>14820331At least they actually care about the launch. Most people I know think anything space related is pointless/childish/a waste of money.If I could convince them it was a jobs program they would probably have a positive opinion of it.
>>14820331>>say it's jobs program not a space program>>look a me like I'm a conspiracy tardIt's a public knowledge. You can tell them to look up its wikipedia page.>>14818679
>>14820324based. better than soivage
>>14820351>the European part is the cheapest part on the rocketFeels good to avoid grift
the moon is a hollowed out space station
>>14820208>>a-also we're going to mars, right?>oh yeah, that too I guess..
>>14820281Fun fact: termites can survive in a hard vacuum.
>>14820392i refuse to believe this
>>14820175>What the fuck. Some fag from the spaceflight general on a Romanian kettle boiling forum built an engine with a box of scrapsScale. A child can build a sandcastle but not a home
>>14820057Good Sol to you too anon, simply delightful
What can we speculate about future Martian cuisine? I'm going shopping later and was wondering what nd how I could put together anything that isn't earther (derogatory) style food
>>14820351>Plus another $20 billion for Orion
>>14820421GET DOWN
>>14820418bugs
>>14820421That's one angry ceiling fan
>>14820432That is a tiangong speical dish though
>>14820427
>>14820099They'll make it fly at least once even if they have to pump in another 10 billion dollars and it blows up at max Q. it's a pride thing. they won't cancel it now.
>>14820418Mashed potatoesSpinachAlgae fake meat
>>14820418You want to eat like a Martian? Looks like meat is off the menu boys.
>>14820142pic unrelated I guess
>>14820418https://files.catbox.moe/h46bkw.pdf
>>14820418bugs, beans and supplement pills
>>1482016615 new stamps from Poland, 1962-1971One stamp is already on the anchor posthttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1UXcGGmwLQxrYc-aoyYaaB1FFvfk9nmk9?usp=sharing
>>14820444I mean 99% of the thing is designed to burn up anyway. Why not make it 100%.
>>14820038YOUNGNO ONE CAN TELL US WE'RE WRONG
>>14820490Pretty much what I eat anyway, just with mycoprotein instead of algae
>>14820584SEARCHING OUR HEARTS FOR SO LONGBOTH OF US KNOWING
>>14819851Isn't that overpowered as fuck for a second stage? Even Alpha uses a different, less powerful second stage engine.
>>148205449 stamps from Bulgaria, 1962-1969https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1rwDrBN32xYXO4gBWV_Mg2EmmpkA_7WNR?usp=sharing
Good morning, /sfg/.
>>14820142>SpaceX>we can't increase Falcon 9 / heavy fairing diameter due to aerodynamics>also SpaceX>we propose putting a larger diameter fairing on the Falcon HeavyKek at this scam, while I like the Falcon 9 SpaceX tries to pull oldspace scams when they get the chance.
>>14820655I'm geussing, proportion
>>14820655i don't think it was ever an official spacex proposal. you'd have to pony up a bunch of money to get elon to put more work into FH.
>>14820655pretty sure Falcon-Orion was an idea that came from that part of NASA that wants to get rid of SLS and not something SpaceX ever offered on their own
>>14820661I'm a brainlet who can't math. Would Falcon-Orion have the delta vee to go lunar, or would it just be earth-orbital?
>>14820663it'd have enough to do artemis 1/2-style missions
>>14820142I'd actually consider using this instead. Stacking a 5m Orion/ICPS on top of a 7m New Glenn would be a lot less awkward than fitting it on a 3.6m Falcon, and LC-36 will already have hydrogen as a GSE commodity. >>14820660I am 100% certain this is something that was cooked up by the enthusiast community>>14820663A standard Falcon Heavy has enough lift to get Orion/ICPS to LEO. From there ICPS can push Orion to TLI. Whether it does that via a LEO parking orbit or does it all in one direct trajectory is anyone's guess.
>>14820663I can't find the payload to LEO for Artemis 1, I just keep getting "most powerful rocket" and "95 ton" bullshit.
>shit launch system delayed>shitliner still not flyingOld space has lost
>>14820672Pretty sure the ICPS finishes the orbital insertion so the orange dildo burns up so if it can get ICPS + Orion to LEO ICPS can do the rest.Where did you find the weight for it?
>>14820673Well, I can tell you how many pumpkins it can lift at least.
>>14820673the core is going to push orion+ICPS basically all the way into orbit but stop just short so it can fall back into the atmosphere shuttle ET-style, so it's going to be like 59 tons.
>>14820681Thanks anon, I have been memeing with a friend that the launch is going to be "swimming pools per minute" fuel flow and "elephants to LEO" so he'll appreciate this.>>14820684Thanks anon, I knew ICPS only did the last ~100m/s.
>>14820681That's about 22025lbs of pumpkins, which translates to 11.0125 US tons or 9.990 metric tons.
>>14820665So what's the X-factor? What's the reason NOT to do Falcon-Orion?
>>14820694Jobs programFunding ICBM makers with the candlesticks
>>14820311>adding a selfie stick to a satellite
>>14820694Fairing diameter makes it impossible on the current Falcon. They could in theory add fins to the base to counter the high center of pressure from a bigger fairing but I don't know how the engine web would handle loads like that it wasn't designed for.tl:dr maybe a few years development maybe impossible.
>>14820702To me that seems like a pretty good reason not to waste a lot of energy on the idea.
>>14820702yeah if they were going to go with a commercial launcher for orion on artemis missions atlas-aces would've been the obvious choice, especially since they would've had to been making the decision in 2011. f9/FH could've still been the workhorse for refueling the d*pots
>>14820678The SLS Core stage is almost as orbital as the Long March 5 core. ICPS needs to do some of the work because NASA isn't run by complete madmen. Falcon Heavy and New Glenn can lift 64 and 45 tons to LEO, although New Glenn's figures are still vague and uncorroborated at this point. Orion+DCSS-5 comes out to ~60 tons, so New Glenn/Orion would actually need an orbital insertion burn like SLS which could be more of an issue than I thought. All of these numbers are pulled from their respective wikipedia articles.
>>14820702The guy that designed the web and a couple of aerodynamics engineers could probably find out how viable it is in a week. Seeing Musk isn't yelling "do this" I'm guessing they have already run the numbers and know it's a big redesign.
>This is a side of Dr. Warner Von Braun few have ever seen. This film was approved by NASA in 1961.>It is his view of how science has changed him and his outlook.>I found this film in a library dumpster in Trenton, New Jersey in 1982.>It may be the first public view in decades.https://twitter.com/BrianRoemmele/status/1566172963665092609fedoras btfo by WvB
>>14820208methalox is superior to hydrolox but there were no methalox engines available in 2011
>>14820773>I found this film in a library dumpster in Trenton, New Jersey in 1982.Christ the flagrant loss of historical records makes me nervous. Our species has forgotten so much already.
>>14820211Methane is easier to handle.
>>14820418look at that Jurvetson dweeb's food ventures for that I guess. You vill eat the fermenting tanks of fungus on Mars.
>>14820694Because when the last nasa administrator suggested such a hypothetical just to light a fire under the ass of everyone building SLS, the senate nearly fired him for just having such a thought in the first place. Hence the Senate Launch System.
>>14820602Yes having a Reaver for the second stage of Rocket 4 seems far too powerful, Firefly's Alpha has twice as many Reavers for the first stage and still doesn't use one for the second.
>>148201668 new stamps from the United States, 1963-1994Think that's all for todayhttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ZvR2fmPrjmi1_OrXPzmbsRcFEm-rmQSV?usp=sharing
>>14820684So the core stage is technically capable of single stage to orbit?
>>14820773>SS member who use froced labor lectures Americans about moralityKek.
>>14820673https://www.nasa.gov/exploration/systems/sls/to-the-moon.html>This is low-Earth orbit, often referred to as LEO. SLS can deliver more than 95 metric tons (209,439 pounds) to this orbit with a Block I configuration.
>>14820803Stage and a half. It's got SRBs.
Reminder that Falcon 1 STILL mogs all other modern small sats in terms of price/kg and capability to LEO
Everybody shits on SLS, but does anybody have anything positive or negative to say about Orion? If we could figure out how to get it to orbit, would it be a good cislunar spacecraft? How's it compare to Crew Dragon?
>>14820773This further proves that WvB is not only a mascot of /sfg/, but indeed all of /sci/. Thank you for sharing anon, someone ought to webm this
>>14820823As something that began life in the Bush administration it at least has longevity.
>>14820815That doesn't mean ICPS + Orion weighs 95 tons.
>>14820823it cost about as much as SLS and taking twice as long to develop and they havent even added life support yet. and it's fat.
>>14820780With the invention of the internet most things are copied many times over, so I wouldn't worry about it. The main problem is that because it is digital it can be edited with ease
>>14820823Paired with a real CSM it would be amazing, as it is it's extremely low delta-v and limited to the the gateway orbit.
>>14820803No because it cannot lift off without those two huge SRB.
So why did it get delayed ... AGAIN?
>>14820773Did Saturn IB ever fly with both the CSM and LEM?
>>14820823Crew dragon can't handle lunar reentry speeds, but if they added a larger trunk for life support and a orbital refuel and more layers to their heat shield. I bet they could have made a lunar dragon
>>14820855What kind of Zeno's paradox shit is this?
>>14820842That paradoxically makes it even worse, knowledge stored completely digitally makes it all the more ephemeral. One good CME and there goes your species' archives. We should be making encyclopedias out of carved granite.
>>14820860They didn't want to launch while trump was in office so they were told to drag their feet a little but ended but dragging their feet a lot
>>14820868I wouldn't be surprised if people really believed this.
>>14820837ICPS is a 5 meter DCSS>67,700 lbOrion crew module + service module + abort module>73,735 lb
>>14820864I read about this subject ages and ages ago, probably back in the late 90s. Some group or other was trying to figure out the best way to store information indefinitely. They decided the solution was to microscopically etch text onto discs made out of nickel (for some reason). Apparently those could survive just about anything and all you need to read them is a working knowledge of the language and a microscope.
>>14820864You can easily have archives shielded from a CME and they probably already do
Titan IIIC…hnggggggg
>>14820879Titan is pure sex.
>>14820873I wonder how you'd make it known to an unknown future people that the objects were even an archive to begin with, they might think "wow ancient coasters" and melt them down for the metal. I remember a documentary on that big-ass nuclear waste storage place in Norway where they were debating how or even if they should mark the spot on the surface once it's filled. Any marking they might leave as a warning may be misinterpreted by a future people who could start digging there, alerted by whatever marker you leave.
>>14819997>They are made by the same company though.do they also sag
>>14820886I saw that same doco, IMO put up "leave this land undistrubed or anger the old gods" signs. That way you only kill a couple of people and send a powerful message.
>>14820804if he sincerely repented and accepted Jesus he is in Heaven now, can you say the same?
What happens if starship lands on the moon before SLS launches?
>>14820891I can not, I'm not in heaven.
>>14820418There's a three page pdf of this but I don't have it.
>>14820858That was what they originally had planned for dearMoon. The heatshield is too weak as-is, but you might be able to get around that if your service module could add a breaking burn instead of coming in on a purely ballistic return. >>14820872All versions of the SLS look vaguely unsettling to me, but there's just something about the block 1B's proportions that just looks outright wrong.
>>14820823it costs way too fucking much and this is coming from a lockheed martin apologetic
>>14820892SLS burns another 20 billion in the 5 years that's going to take.
if SS launches before SLS would they consider canceling the thing
>>14820885How does the fuel get into the nozzle pipes?
>>14820899way too deep in sunk costs already
>>14820892absolutly nothing, SLS situation right now is that both nasa and boeing are playing chicken. Boeing blew all the money they got for SLS and then some, but they have to build more, and it's going to come out of their own pocket. They hope nasa pulls the plug first and that nasa has to pay them a fine for cancelling the project. And yes, boeing probably is going to pull this scenario off.
>>14820879I really wish Lockheed had gone with a Titan V instead of upgrading the Atlas.
>>14820894being a smart alec won't get you there anon
>>14820879>>14820885Why doesn't SpaceX make the Raptor larger?
>>14820899>if SS launches before SLSthis won't be allowed
>>14820895it is of hideous cyclopean proportions that abominable rocket.
>>14820900IIRC each pipe does a U-turn at the bottom so the fuel flows down one and up the other into the injector head.
>>14820923It's squamous. And rugose.
>>14820915Raptor makes more thrust than two of the twin main engines on Titan III. Raptor is powerful.>>14820912There’s documents and stuff that prove Titan V was supposed to switch the liquid propellants to Hydrolox and have a 5 meter wide core. It was basically Delta IV but with Titan boosters. Titan V still would’ve been more capable than Delta IV Heavy. Interestingly enough, it would use the same original Titan liquid engines, only with a different propellant. The LR87 on the Titan was made to run on kerosene, hypergolics, and hudrolox
>>14820886I have always hated the "what would some newfags think of us today" thought experiment. If the world does get colonized by Africans it's not my problem if they dig up some nuclear waste, they should have used ground penetrating radar or a Geiger counter. Fuck em. Hopefully the mankind has a colony on Mars before then.
>>14820923>>14820927a rocket fit for Welshmen
>>14820924Thanks. Thought it was something like that but you can’t see it in the pic.
>>14820899>would they consider canceling the thingStarship or SLS?
>>14820913And David said unto Ahimelech ... And the priest said, The sword of Goliath the Philistine, whom thou slewest in the valley of Elah. 1 Samuel 21:8-9And there was again war with the Philistines at Gob, and Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim, the Bethlehemite, struck down Goliath the Gittite, the shaft of whose spear was like a weaver’s beam. 2 Samuel 21:19
"NASA officials are still assessing the cause of the leak, but they believe it may have been due to an errant valve being opened. This occurred during the process of chilling down the rocket prior to loading liquid hydrogen. Amid a sequence of about a dozen commands being sent to the rocket, a command was sent to a wrong valve to open. This was rectified within 3 or 4 seconds, Sarafin said. However, during this time, the hydrogen line that would develop a problematic quick-disconnect was briefly over-pressurized."
>>14820955How the fuck isn't this automated in CURRENT YEAR?
>>14820886>I wonder how you'd make it known to an unknown future people that the objects were even an archive to begin with, they might think "wow ancient coasters"just make the first line of text readable by the naked eye and have each subsequent line diminish in size till you need a lens to read it
>>14820967That's the way to do it, have the visible text also explain how to make a primative lens.
>>14820955>oh no the engine chill isn't working the engine will melt scrub scrub>oh wait so the sensor was just bad everything is fine>oh no we're leaking all this hydrogen why 8" GSE line why>oh wait we just opened the wrong valve for a few seconds that'll be a forty five day delay plus tip>>14820963It was because they had to do some weird manual process to account for the last scrub's problem which wasn't really a problem.
>>14820963Automatization removes jobs :(
SLS just continues to deliver
>>14820982Jobs?
>>14820974yes, also put a yuuge cache of lenses in with the metal text sheets. they're dirt cheap in bulk anyway
>>14820895>but there's just something about the block 1B's proportions that just looks outright wrong.Luckily it will never exist
>>14820873I like this group. I always thought we should go further and invent things from scratch to help nuclear survivor cavemen bootstrap civilization faster a second time. Like you would have plans for wooden bicycles and shit. Something like STC from 40k
>>14820891sadly he was a prot heretic so he's in hell
>>14820418sounds like a fun challenge for a week/month/year>rules:at least one meal should involve microalgae since it's the most space/resource efficient source of protein (tip: you can buy spirulina/chlorella powder in health food stores)bake green flatbread, soup, oatmeal - something like thatyou can have anything that you can grow in aquaponic system - fresh vegetables, beans, tilapia and shrimp are all allowed, fungi alsotrees need a lot of time and space, so you should limit your choices to annual plantsfrom carbs you are allowed wholemeal flour, brown rice, sweet and regular potatoes, golden syrup for sweeteningprocessing them further to white flour/rice and crystal sugar seems somewhat wasteful, given the circumstances, but then again, it's not that complicated to do so feel free to buy regular as wellPreferred cooking fat should be algae oilIf you can't find it in your supermarket, canola oil with a dash of fish oil should be a decent substituteno more than 0.5kg of "imported" food per week (ie. red meat in form of jerky or corned beef, chocolate etc.) because hauling that shit is insanely expensive even with Starshiphardmode: import embargoanother thing to consider:Martian diet should also be anti-oxidant rich to lower cancer risk from radiation when outside of hab so try to eat a lot of thosepreservation by freeze drying would be incredibly easy on Mars as you could be using the same process and machinery as you would extraction water from regolith, so martian cuisine should involve things like Chuño or Katsuobushi
>>14820893>>14820535
What are we waiting for?
>>14820166From today's paper. it's pretty easy to find similar things from the 1980's when the Shuttle was first flying.Artemis lunar flight couldn't launch on its second attempt (4.9.2022) The unmanned Artemis lunar flight will be postponed due to a propellant leak, United States' space administration NASA said. The rocket was intended to launch from Florida last Saturday evening Finnish time. The leak was noticed when liquid hydrogen was being pumped into the rocket. NASA did not immediately say when the launch would be attempted again. The first launch attempt on Monday had to be cancelled due to a high temperature in one of the rocket engines. The unmanned flight is set to take the Orion spacecraft to a lunar orbit for 2 days. Later in the Artemis program is a manned flight to Lunar orbit, and eventually man's return to the Lunar surface.
>>14821042if he does thisi n a few years he could mix in some cultured meat as well, i think at least one of those companies says they want to export their tech into space. seems like a fun challenge to do.
>>14820930The LR87 could run on just about anything but it was still a gas generator design from the 1950s. Lockheed thought about upgrading the H-1 decedents the Atlas was using but elected to buy higher performing RD-180s instead. I wonder if we could have seen an RD-0120 powered Titan if they'd decided to follow that route.
Why has nobody considered meat rabbits for established habitats? They don't take a lot of space, they eat shit you're growing already plus your scraps, reach slaughter weight quickly, breed quickly and their waste can be used as fertilizer without processing.
as a gamer i feel that i am exceptionally tuned to endure the long transit to mars. i would be happy not to leave my cabin as long as i can poop somewhere
>>14819984kek, they should've just let spacex do this. boeing and nasa are just failures
>>14821072You can't live off of rabbit meat.
>>14820982/sfg/ would never admit it
>>14821079exclusively? no of course not, not enough fat, but that's not an issue on mars, plenty of fat-rich plants and algaes to choose from to make up for that. having said that i think the optics of rabbits being sent to mars to be slaughtered are bad.
>>14820804Everytime i read those retarded comments on twigger i wonder how some of you could spend more than 5 min on there without wanting to kill someone.>>14820773also im an esl but his choice of words sound very nice and poetic, maybe it was the times.
>>14821072Anon did in the 4ass agriculture report
>>14821084its cool, the rabbits will form the first Owsla on Mars
>>14819984Idk what the SLS law is, but the phenomenon of having experts request something from management and then ending up with something vaguely related or unrelated at all is all too familiar for me working at a big corporation.I assume something similar happened.
>>14821101they knew exactly what they were doing
https://spacenews.com/intelsats-galaxy-15-mutes-payload-as-its-drifts-into-other-satellite-paths/spacetugbros...
>>14821053problem with cultured meat is that you need lot of very pure chemicals (aminoacids, enzymes, etc.) , the whole process is finicky and needs a lot of hardwaremaking these is a bit problematic if you don't have chemical industry and if you can't make them in situ, you need to importif you have to bring 1kg of powdered growing broth to make 1kg of synthesized porkchops, you might as well bring frozen or freeze dried porkchops and skip the whole hassle>>14821084>the optics of rabbits being sent to mars to be slaughtered are bad.maybe for suburban Americans
>>14821093>there's a dog loose in the wood
>>14821116>problem with cultured meatYou know where's the best place go grow meat? Inside a cow.
anything happening next week?
>>14821132> get meat> get milk> get methane for rocket fuelits a no brainer imo.
>>14821132Cows are the most inefficient form of feed to meat ratio animal there is. Should go for chicken or turkey if you don't want fish
>>14821132truebut getting a herd of cows to Mars seems rather difficult at face value
>>14821143take calves. checkmate atheists.
>>14821134There should be an Ariane 5 launch on Tuesday, so get ready for another cringe stream. ABL's first launch attempt for the RS1 is next Saturday and Firefly's second for the Alpha is the day after that.
>>14821042If you eat >50g of microalgae every day you're going to get sick. http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/celss.php#algaedanger
>>14821141fish isn't meat
>>14821145just take frozen sperm and eggs, then artificially grow them on mars
>>14821153How are you gonna grow them?
>>14821141For Mars chickens you're going to need either fast transfers to ship fertilized eggs before they hatch, suspended animation for chickens so they don't retard themselves apart in transit, or some kind of bullshit Jurassic Park setup for going from raw DNA to viable eggs.
>>14821116>problem with cultured meat is that you need lot of very pure chemicals no you don't, you use bioreactors and easily produced nutrient mixtures derived from plants. it's really straightforward and it is being actively developed to make meat in space-they did testing on this just recently.https://www.aleph-farms.com/aleph-zero>>14821132anon no one is bringing cows to space anytime soon. we've never even had a basic rotational gravity test mission and nothing like that is even planned.
Shut the fuck up you little faggots. You'll eat the Methylococcus capsulatus pellets and you'll love it
>>14821163Now I want to see cows in zero g. MOO!
We will eat beans exclusively and males will breastfeed the little children (on Mars). This was decided on /sfg/ in 2020 (by me)
All anyone needs is ramen. Facts.
>>14821177>tfw it's your day to go into the cow chamber and dodge hundreds of floating blobs of urine-shit-vomit amalgam to unblock the ventsa-at least the captain will eventually get to have a nice steak, heh heh...
>>14821177Imagine the stomach sloshing
>>14821158Ahem...
Reminder that animals are Earthers and they shouldn't be allowed to leave the planet. Mars should either have its own animals or none at all.
>>14821162'You can buy a book called Dr Chase's Information for Everybody.It was written by a British doctor for the first colonists. In that book it tells you exactly how they preserved eggs to be transported across the Atlantic and hatched on American soil.I put this to the test on three separate occasions and it absolutely works, being able to hatch eggs a year after they were laid.All you need are fresh clean unwashed hard-shelled, fertilized eggs, varnish ( real lacquer varnish not polyurethane) and sawdust.Coat each egg with a thin layer of varnish, making sure to completely cover the entire egg. Let them air-dry and then pack them in sawdust. ( I use a 5 gallon bucket)They can remain an incredible amount of time and still be viable for hatching or eating if necessary.Glassing will keep eggs over a season and still leave them fresh.'https://www.quora.com/Can-fertilized-chicken-eggs-be-put-into-suspended-animation-so-they-can-be-viable-after-long-term-storage
How the fuck are these kind of launches not a mundane, routine thing in 2022? I get rockets are ridiculously complicated, but we've had decades to figure this shit out.
>>14820893So where's the meat. I'll settle for real cheese or eggs.>inb4 vegan and ze bugs unironically kill yourself
>>14821207Space hard, there's simply no way to do it cheaply, it's not that simple in rocket etc...
>>14821210>>14820535
>/sfg/ - /ck/
>>14821193Gay and cringe opinion, we are taking life to the stars.
>>14821219>we
>Milky way>No milkwe need some good dwarf cow breeds
>>14821210lmao people are so triggered over a handful of dumb clickbait articles from nobodies about eating bugs being a big thing for the futureeven the most boosterish predictions of bugs as food in the west have them as a minor novelty food, incapable of making a real dent in average american and european food consumption.cultured meat is going to annihilate any chance of bugs being a major food, especially once its chepaer than standard meat. normal meat will still be around, and it should be forever imo to give people options and to allow people to engage in animal husbandry if they want, but it will get more expensive most likely. and i think cultured meat on mars and in space will be a big thing-i certainly don't want to go rabbit mode in space.
>>14821207SpaceX is launching and recovering one Falcon 9 about every 6 days. Next year they plan to cut that down to one launch every 3-4 days. It's easy and mundane if the people involved have a motivation to make it that way.
>>14821207Space is hard please understand [math]\unicode{x1F595}[/math]
>>14821177Imagine the smell
>>14821193once it evolves for 0g it will be martian animals(and plants)
>>14821217Food is one of the great unsolved problems of colonizing Mars, perhaps the largest at this point.
>>14821224Dexter cattle
>>14821205Can you do that with human eggs?
>>14821207Nasa had a different quality of human decades ago
>>14821149good to knowI don't think you would want to eat that much of it even if it didn't give you gout anyway
>>14821239If you can get a human to lay shelled eggs, sure.
>>14821239Sure but they don't taste great
>>14820899Common sense has at no point played a roll in the funding of SLS. Senate will keep funding it no matter what, even if Musk lands a hundred ships on Mars next year.
>>14820893>loofa are plants that grow in treesfor most of my life I believed these were some sort of sea creature.
>>14821235That thing is too cute to make burgers from
>>14820681How many millions of dollars were spent painting each of those pumpkins with a NASA logo?
>>14821145How would a cow raised in 0.4g's meat differ from that of an Earth cow? Less dense? Fattier? Stringy?
>>14821232
>>14821266It'd unironically be much better. That's the reasoning behind the production of A5 Wagyu and similar, you want lazy, sedentary cows with calorie rich diets. 0g beef would probably melt in your mouth
>>14821273Is breast milk actually tasty?
You will never be a viable rocket. You have no reusability, you have no mass production, you have no technological breakthroughs. You are an obsolete design twisted by budget cuts and corporate greed into a crude mockery of aerospace engineering.All the “proposed launches” you get are two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your engineers are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “MP's” laugh at your ghoulish costs behind closed doors.Payload contractors are utterly repulsed by you. SpaceX market dominance has allowed companies to sniff out overpriced launch systems with incredible efficiency. Even oldspace rockets that “fly” look costly and crude to a space agency. Your Upper Liquid Propulsion Module is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk French assemblyman to consider a program extension, he'll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a sight of the bill for your Vulcain'sYou will never be operational. ESA will wrench out fake inspirational videos every single year and tell the public "we gaan", but deep inside you feel the delays creeping up like weeds, ready to crush you under the unbearable cost increases.Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - they'll fill you with hydrolox, launch you into orbit, loop a half-scale Space Rider into orbit and shelve the program, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. Arianegroup will reuse your engines and boosters in another ESA-approved cost-plus scheme, and every frog for the rest of eternity will know 20 billion Euro of his money are buried there. Your blueprints will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a hydrolox engine that was unmistakably developed in the early 70's.
>>14821273>donated. You just know some sick fuck is drinking that breastmilk.
>>14821277It's very sweet. Sugary.
>>14821273Wow!
>>14820773>comments all spamming about "m-muh NAZISSSSSS"
>>14821273leave this to me
>>14820311>They were supposed to launch last year, but since they were relying on Rocket Lab to launch it, it ran into delaysIsn't RocketLab launch cadence limited by their customers readiness?
>>14821273>1.75 gallons/day
>>14821273A company in Canada will turn breast milk into freeze dried powder.
>>14820773>>14820833webm: >>>/wsg/4719241>>14820804He was not a Christian then. He converted to Christianity when he realized that Christian Americans are morally superior to atheistic soviets.
>>14820773>>14821290All the more reason a starship should be named after him. Faggots on twitter think they’re intellectuals by “discovering” his past and pointing it out like nobody else knew he was SS.Anyways, the story of his conversion to Christianity is a funny one. Coworkers gave him grief and would leave pamphlets on his desk and then one day he started asking theology questions after becoming concerned about the topic of morality and a final judgement. He started going to church and stated it changed his views completely. It wasn’t just surface level either—Wernher would famously go to black colleges to recruit engineers because he realized they had prejudice against them and he knew they would in many cases work harder because they wanted to prove themselves. He befriended many professors there, and on one occasion did an unscheduled test fire of an F1 engine as an intimidation method after lecturing the alabama governer who was in favor of segregation whereas wernher was not. The man had a complete turn around in his life while chasing the stars and helping us reach the moon only for room temperature faggots 60 years later to try and bash him
>>14821273mi trabajo...
>>14821330wtf I hate von Braun now
>>14821283yeah, himhttps://twitter.com/BreastMilkEnjyr
>>14821324Conflicted. I never cared about this stuff, but if Uncle Wernher says so it must be important
>>14821335his ONLY mistake was becoming a lutheran instead of a catholic
>>14821351>join the RCClol no mackerel snappers
>>14820116I am not saying the rocket won't ever reach orbit. I'm saying that it would have done so already if only white men were allowed to work on it. All those years and billions didn't need to be wasted to pander to the mediocrity of diversity hires.
>>14821330I wonder what the ethnic composition of the neighbourhoods his descendants live in is?
This thread is so astroturfed. LOL. I know Isaac Newton was English, but seriously.
>>14821330Extremely unbased, an example of what unchecked Americanisation does to a man
>>14821273The only reason we should be bringing women to Mars, despite the dangers they pose
>>14821373t. seething papist
>>14821380also bouncy bouncy
>>14821377>AmericanisationPlease stop blaming innocent Americans for the crimes of their ZOG overlords. Von Braun was pressured into behaving the way he did by his ZOG political masters. His cohorts who were abducted into slavery by the USSR all went through the same treatment
Christfags gtfo As the cloud is consumed and vanishes away, so he that goeth down to the grave shall come up no more. Job 7:9But man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he? ... So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep ... If a man die, shall he live again? Job 14:10-14For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks? Psalm 6:5O spare me, that I may recover strength, before I go hence, and be no more. Psalm 39:13The dead know not anything, neither have they any more a reward. Ecclesiastes 9:5For there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest. Ecclesiastes 9:10A sinful man ... his glory is dung, and worms ... tomorrow he shall not be found, because he is returned into his earth; and his thought is come to nothing. 1 Machabees 2:62-63
SLS, but it's kerolox
>>14821224SMASHEDSLAMMED
>>14821421With the AR1 engine. Fuck the F1B I know it gets love but it would have sucked
>>14821421NOO YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE IT WORK LIKE THAT!
I have a feeling NASA will abandon the clean pad approach and scrap ML2I mean, who else is gonna be making use of 39B but NASA SLS?>A similar problem in using the STS technology is with the SRBs. The solid fuel adds a lot of weight to the mobile platform, which did not matter for STS because the heavy launch tower was at the pad. For SLS, the tower needs to be on the mobile platform to steady the taller rocket and the SRBs have an additional segment with even more weight. The new tower being built for the SLS with bigger upper stage is now beyond the limits of the crawler transporter. The massive Saturn V did not use SRBs and was mostly empty liquid fuel tanks on the way to the pad.
>>14821448>Also, those SRBs have now been stacked beyond the certification date and another delay until late October will add more risk of SRB failure requiring flight termination. Congress and NASA have really painted themselves into a corner with decisions made a long time ago. NASA is sooo fucked
can someone tell me why they went with SLS instead of the simpler Shuttle-C?
can't they get someone to get inside and push the fuel back in place
>>14821448If they ruin the crawler with this fat pig of a rocket I am going to be so mad.
>>14821448Inb4 SpaeX start building another chopstick tower of their own at 39B to expand the fleet
>>14821459Because they're opposed to any re-use, for reasons of politics and corruption.
>>14821464https://mashable.com/article/nasa-artemis-rocket-launchpad-launch-attempt
>>14821459For the same reason the thought that "Shuttle II" had to be a hydrogen-fueled SSTO spaceplane. SLS is going to the moon so it has to be a big rocket like the Saturn V, because that's what a rocket that goes to the moon has to be like. Remember, this was a rocket that was designed by congressional aids, not by actual rocket scientists.
Wtf is this real?
>>14821474it's not fair, hasn't she done enough already?they're going to kill her just so they can spend many billions of dollars building a new one that's worse, aren't they?
>>14820672Main problem with the artemis falcon. Is falcons proportions. She is a tall skinny thing. Any taller and she'll wiggle too much.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343705231_Development_of_a_Nytrox-Paraffin_Hybrid_Rocket_Engine
>>14821481It sounds about as real as >Elon unveils SpaceX's ASTOUNDING new warp drive! IT'S OVER!I'm sure Boeing is read to be done with losing money on the Starliner embarrassment, but they still have 6+1 contractually required missions that they can get paid something for, and NASA has no reason to "pull the plug." The title sounds clickbait as fuck.
>>14821459
So that's why it was removed
>>14821474>With the new course NASA's charting, it seems his team can't relax just yet. That moment may arrive soon.>"When it's in orbit," Giles said. "And I know it's not coming back."NASA wants off Senator Administrator's wild ride
>>14821459Shuttle-C for cargo threatened astronaut jobs and so astronauts killed it.
>>14821427>Fuck the F1B I know it gets love but it would have suckedThe F-1B doesn't actually exist either.
>>14821459Side mounts are too enlightened for modern age naysah, and part of artemis funding required Ares crapware which is not compatible, unless you want to go back to constellation and before they pulled the plug
>>14821481Starliner dies when the last Atlas V assigned to it flies.
>>14821505best looking WEBM I ever saw
>>14821459Imagine... how much dV would a Shuttle have if it docked to a full ET tank in space just hours later after it launched?idc about the feasibility of that just the dV available from a full ET in orbit
>>14821490just install Kerbal Joint Reinforcement
>>14821480>SLS is going to the moon so it has to be a big rocket like the Saturn VIts such idiotic reasoning. There's no reason we couldn't launch 2 Shuttle-Cs and link the payloads up in LEO, its not the 60s we have a lot of experience doing shit like that now. And because it's uncrewed you can take risks to boost the payloads like picrel
>>14820672just put the entire falcon in a fairingez
Expendable launch towers
>>14821549They said I was mad for building my launch tower out of wood
I am the Space God
>>14821552No, Dennis, we said you were mad for building your launch tower out of MORNING wood.
>>14821459Congressional requirements for payload to LEO were higher than what Shuttle-C or other side-mounted SDLVs could attain. They also specifically forced an integrated launcher. https://www.nasa.gov/pdf/649377main_PL_111-267.pdfhttps://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20050092397/downloads/20050092397.pdf
>>14821536It would have unironically been cheaper to design a Shuttle II from scratch compared to keeping it online, and it would have been cheaper still to just design a Saturn V size rocket from scratch
>>14820804
>>14820017https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NONM-xsKMSs3 hours till live
>>14821684>They're launching a SherpaLTCGuess they figured out what was causing the leaks
>>14820871It’s true that no further explanation is needed when a complex technical project exceeds its deadlines and budget, even more so when it’s being done on a cost-plus basis.At the same time it shouldn’t be surprising if the social parasites whose sole job function is extracting the maximum possible amount from the federal government for a decades-long project consider the political consequences of each outcome and don’t ignore the next administration.
>>14820893It's more like 31 pages.https://www.docdroid.net/uGf3k1F/sfg-anon-2021-r1-pdf>>14821342He was working from incomplete data that later work on computing (and black holes) would contradict. Mass-energy does not disappear, but information does. The mind is a pattern of information within the physical confines of the brain, a pattern which can be altered by physical changes to the brain. It would be nice if he was right, but anyone who's ever watched an elderly relative (or Joe Biden lmao) degrade at the end of their life knows it's not true.
>>14821141t. never heard of eating old people
>>14821067That would've been almost exactly like SLS but without the shuttle contractor memes and therefore better.
>>14821496>cargo variant>must be human rated....why
>>14821149solution: send only Japanese colonists The Japanese diet is so high in seaweed they have unique adaptations to it, including gut bacteria that produce porphyranases and agarases that enable them to more completely digest algae.
>>14821257sameI’m switching back to sponges.
>>14821162Just put them in a spincoop
>>14821277Yes! The flavor is further enhanced when you can get it warm and straight from the source and the source is attractive.
>>14821526Anyone know?Pic related is my captcha, now you have to answer!
>>14820208Easier to store
>>14820858Could Dragon handle reentry if they do controlled aerobraking? (bleeding off a little velocity at a time). It'd take longer to do reentry, obviously, but it seems like an option.
>>14820381>to avoid griftOh it's there. It's just not quite not as pronounced.
>>14820350How big is the site going to be? The procimity to gigatexas (which is also teslas hq) makes me think its just going to be where spacex hq is going to get moved at some pointAlso closet to launch sites assuming boca chica and the cape are going to be the main areas
>>14821723I don't think you would have had to leave all the shuttle contractors out in the cold. RSRMs would make great replacements for the SRMUs and you could actually get some cost savings by sharing a production line with an active shuttle program. >>14821763A fully loaded external tank weighs in at around 750 tons, which is way, way, WAY too much for any combination of boosters to lift to orbit. But if you could get it up there and get somehow get Endeavour docked to it the combined stack would have roughly 9.3 km/s dV in the tank, assuming Endeavour was just the orbiter with nothing in the payload bay. If you added in the standard ~24,000 kg of stuff that'd drop to about 8.5 km/s.
>>14821804>roughly 9.3 km/s dV in the tank, assuming Endeavour was just the orbiter with nothing in the payload bay. If you added in the standard ~24,000 kg of stuff that'd drop to about 8.5 km/s.Nice, enough to the moon and back, they should have tested it with modified ET as a fuel depot or something, Shuttle around the moon would be kino
guys how long has SLS been rolled out of the VAB forwhat was the date for the SLS rollout
>>148218162 weeks
>>14820043
>>14821816almost 25 days
>>14821810
>>14821072the prostrat is like rabbits and tilapia with crabs
>>14821825kino
>>14821832kino [ kee-noh ] noun, plural ki·nos, (in Europe) a movie theater; cinema.
>>14821794I think you'd end up in a highly elliptical orbit taking you through the Van Allen belts
>>14821835it's so much more, kino stirs the heart and soul
>>14821819wtf I love epistles now
>>14821277it's okay
>>14821810>>14821825I'm sure those tiles can take lunar reentry speeds
>>14821861Point being, wouldn't it be cool if they COULD.
>>14821330So he got brainwashed by american culture?
>>14821871You prefer he be brainwashed by nazi culture?
>>14821874Yes.
>>14821875Fuck nazis
>>14821880t.
Modern NASA would neverhttps://twitter.com/Interlunar13/status/1566177518473936896>A liquid hydrogen GSE leak occured during Apollo 11, around 2 hours 45 minutes before launch Almost causing a scrub, the leak was eventually resolved by "freezing the valve by pouring water over it" and using an alternative valve.
>>14821880Controversial stance on 4chan, but I'll take it.
>>14821874Look at the state of america right now amd what it has done to western culture in general
Casey handmer really has a hateboner for space based solar, going into random twitter threads and starting long arguments about it lmao
>>14821895he shook cause the Ukraine war showed solar is meme garbage and his gay little venture is doomed lol
>>14821901>the Ukraine war showed solar is meme garbageThe war is actually reinforcing the value of Terraform Industries or a nuclear-backed equivalent as a tool of US foreign policy. The US has cheap power, plenty of sunlight, and wants to be able to keep selling LNG after all the fracking wells run dry. That's perfect for atmospheric capture. If you mean that solar doesn't work in Europe, then yes, he's getting BTFO.
>>14821901He has been arguing against space based solar power not for it.
>>14821913>If you mean that solar doesn't work in Europe, then yes, he's getting BTFO.Yeah, he boosts it as suitable everywhere which is nuts and people are catching on to its limitations
>>14821925Doesn't the surface of Mars have similar overall insolation levels as Europe? Nuclearchads rise up, it's time again.
>>14821871I made no such assumption in my post, everyone is reading way too much into it lol
>>14821177>>14821186>>14821188>0G gives cows instant DA and they die from colic
>>14821926eh Mars insolation is way more predictable than Europes, barring the very rare duststorm
>>14821925By "people", you mean contrarian /pol/tards that are useful idiots for the dying nuclear industry, such as (>>14821901)
i think we should asap branch out from just mars and get colonization of the asteroid belt, titan, the kuiper belt and even the oort cloud rolling along. it's important to have momentum. we fucked up the moon by not staying on target and using what we learned to plan and do a mars mission within a decade or two. i think if we lose momentum again we are sunk as a species.
>>14821953The problem with those is travel time for manned missions. We either need Mars as a staging post to launch from or we need high thrust/Isp propulsion to get to the outer system and back in a reasonable time.
>>14821969that's in the cards, although it is some ways out. The key thing is to try to signal boost those planning these next steps and for any of us with the ability to to work on these sorts of problems to do so.As an example, the direct fusion drive concept is making strong progress, with a lot of its intial assumptions having been born out in the prototypes they have made. https://youtu.be/hOmqFNKwwvohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klguiNg0BEMat this point the key thing is funding and warm bodies, and both of these are things that are starting to happen for next gen propulsion. Other things we need more energy in are in-orbit manufacturing, mining, life support, food production, radiation mitigation-it's a very wide space of problems that need blood sweat and tears spilled to overcome. It really needs to be all hands on deck-if you lack the education or capacity to directly work on this, at the very least always try to be an efective exponent of space policy. above all, push back against those who defame space as "a rich man's playground" as the empty-brained simpletons they are-as if the incredible material benefits of space technology haven't made life for all humans vastly better! Fight ignorance with knowledge if you can't contribute in any other way.
>>14821953NSWRs and the colonization of the Tau Ceti system is the long term goal. Obviously this is unsustainable with sh*t like SLS
>The more powerful Exploration Upper Stage on future configurations of the rocket will enable daily, or near-daily, launch opportunities to the Moon, depending on the orbit desired.
>>14822022That will be $400 million plus tip please
>>14822025>pork flowing intensifies
>>14821981>Only 5-10 newtons of thrust per MW but it requires breakeven fusion to work and it's fueled by helium-3.>Isp worse than demonstrated electric propulsionLmao, the DFD is literally a scam. If this technology had any potential they would be getting hundreds of millions for their terrestrial closed cycle fusion reactor of the same design, instead they're hoping to crowdfund 100k for this bullshit.
>>14820773https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjDEsGZLbiocancel this nazi
18 minutes till starlink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NONM-xsKMSs
space is too damn expensive
>>14822036Time to cancel space. This guy says so.
>>1482202910k seconds of isp and fuckloads of electrical power out to the outer solar system is amazing-what can beat that out ot pluto? I know of nothing. and there's all kinds of other types of fusion propulsion ot explore after it like the sfs z-pinch
>>14822036That's what Starship is eventually going to solve
starlink launch live
night launch best launch
Look at the moon modern NASA can't get to, sad
>No Clear chan
i love you jessie..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlGXB7mkhC8Got the LC-39B feed open just in case the launch lights it up but SLC-40 is pretty far so idk
>>14822071Jessie SUCKS, what happened to the chocolate qt
>>14822071Go work at SpaceX and meet her anon
Hehe this is Starlink 4-20
>>14822073>Dabs on SLS
>camera flareblahMax Q though.
MaxQute
How long has it been since a Falcon 9 even failed to land, let alone failed an orbital insertion? It's been so long I can't even remember
>Starlink 4-20 isn't launching on booster 1069
MVac startup seemed a little slow today.
No change in lighting, maybe if it was LC-39A
>>14822071Her voice is ASMR hardon material
was kinda cloudy tonight, but still love to watch it
>>14822085Starlink 19 in Feb '21
>The VIRGIN SLS vs the CHAD FALCON NINE
178th launchIMMENSE
>>14822089Buddy, do you have anything to say about those recomendations?
ROUTINE
>>14822098Space is NOT RoutineSpace is HARD. - NASA
>>1482209No comment
KEROLOGS GUDHYDROLOGS BAD
>>14822103Yes.
>>14822103Is it really that easy in rocketry?
>>14822102>>14822097
>>14822054200 kWe isn't a fuckload of power, at the cost of a slightly larger turbine they could have MWs of power, and just ditch the direct drive scheme since electric propulsion is more efficient so it would generate more thrust per watt at 10,000 seconds of Isp, but it could also be tuned to provide higher thrust/lower specific impulse, or vice versa, for other missions>and there's all kinds of other types of fusion propulsion ot explore after it like the sfs z-pinchI like how you're pretending this is easily achievable when most other fusion designs would still be very difficult to produce but much easier than this since it's d-he-3 fusion
WHERE IS THE SECOND STAGE CAM AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I HATE WHEN THEY DO THIS
>>14822098Damn, we are close to reaching a point where rocket launches will be the same as airplane take offs. How is to watch one irl? my ticket to gape canaveral is for the next year, so i still have to wait a bit more and get a fake vax card.
Elon can't keep getting away with it
Cool landing, well done again.
>>14822103kerolox queen slaaay yaas
Holy shit that landing looked SMOOTH as fuck
It's like, three feet off of dead center.
>tfw riding in a Dragon on a F9 is statistically safer than a 737 maxrumao
>>14822117Very close
>>14822116Let's see NASA's landing
>>14822117>Can't land Falcon 9 on center after 100 landings>Trying to catch Starship and Super Heavy
Aw yeah, spacejams stream.
>>14822117The AI guidance systems be slacking, quick, train them on more images of seagulls landing perfectly to steal french fries
Will listening to this music for very long turn me gay?
>it seems my superiority has led to some controversy
Moon.
>>14822128>/sci/>Not already gay
>>14822125Both super heavy and starship will hover such that they can be catch easier than land
>>14822130at least I think it is?
>>14822133Yes, i can see it from my window and it has the same shape
>>14822126COME ON AND SLAM
>>14822128maybe
Elon's musk
>>14822130>>14822138>SpaceX is closer to the Moon than NASA
>>14822138sugoiSLS-chan is so jealous right now I almost feel bad for her
>>14822123the SLS has a perfect recovery record so far: two attempts, two retrievals, barely any refurbishment required! The safest way to recover the vehicle is to never let it launch in the first place, something SpaceX has yet to discover.
>>14822145I've always felt bad for SLS. Like, never shat on it, never badmouthed it, just felt... bad. It's like watching a kid do his hair and clothes really well, but fail to wash his face so he's covered in acne.
>>14822075She quit SpaceX to join blue origin, then became the coo of firefly before finally quitting again. Now she is a consultant.
>>14822149The engineers got stuck with what Congress told them to use. It's the opposite of what NASA should be doing.
>>14822148This is next level recovery strategy
>>14822141SEC, middle word is Elon's
>>14822156Subsidize Elon's Companies
>>14822144so is South Korea (also thanks to SpaceX). They just announced that they also skipped their fourth orbital correction maneuver because the last correction was so accurate, and their lunar orbiter is on track to enter orbit on schedule
>>14822160This can't be happening.NASA is in charge here.
FAA has announced that SpaceX has to ground all Falcon 9 launches until KSC environmental reviews are complete.
>>14822153Which is sad because there are so many ways it could have been done better. I don't think I've actually seen a proposed shuttle-derived moon rocket that's worse than what we got.
>>14822166No
I kind of like the space jams, a litle steril at first, but then gets soulfull wth the time.
>>14822169>I don't think I've actually seen a proposed shuttle-derived moon rocket that's worse than what we got.SLS is what they all converge on. Shuttle-C didn't have the lift capacity and all the "better" designs make generous assumptions about the ability to use mostly-stock ETs which SLS proved to be unphysical.
why not just use like 10 SRBs for the first stage or two and have a spaceplane upper?? you could even make that fully reusable.
>>14822177If it works in KSP it works IRL
>>14822179First rule of spaceflight
where did Jessie go
>>14822177It'd end up being a sidehanger like the Shuttle with moar SRBs.
https://spacenews.com/u-s-space-command-basing-decision-approaching-final-stretch/space command to huntsville is happening
>>14822193awful
Titan Shuttle concept from the 70’s. It still had the issues of the shuttle, but now with an extra pair of SRBs, and a hypergolic Titan core stage
What's more impressive? SpaceX sending out weekly rockets for StarLink, successful every single time, or Artemis if it lands on the moon?Why can SpaceX launch a rocket every 5 minutes but NASA can't figure out their fueling process? Is their mission actually that much harder than what SpaceX is doing?
The music and the views right now... perfectionThis is one of my favorite Starlink launches in a while
>>14822201>Artemis if it lands on the moonWell considering it literally doesn't do that, Artemis
>>14822202it's just so chill
>>14822202>>14822206Did NOAA approve this?
>no groundstation coverage of deploymentmy disappointment is immeasurable etc..
>>14822195On the one hand:>even more SRBsOn the other hand:>way more payload to polar orbit so it would satisfy the Air Force unlike Saturn-Shuttle>force Rocketdong to make their SSMEs air lightable
>>14822201Space X could go from a blank white board and zero planning to having a falcon heavy moonshot a dragon in a month or two if they so wanted which would be effectively the same thing as Artemis pissing an untested capsule around the moon.
>>14820037very cool
>>14822208At least we got to hang out listening to cool music watching spacecraft fly over Antarctica.
>>14822119What do all those little thin pipes do? Also anyone see the funny little message
>>14822193Give me $1,000 for 7 top notch spectacular valorific honorable dignified aweinspiring timeless powerful showoff uniforms please. Or at least $100 for 1, please. It is now dawning o me likely the need to be conservative in such a uniform design but we will see I guess, I geuss I should be contacting a movie costume maker, or fashion house, maybe I can do all though
>>14822284Mostly sensors iirc.
>>14821875>be a brutally militaristic culture>believe the strongest will prevail through violence>fight one war>lose
>>14822302Did they really lose, though? Germany now makes policy decisions for most of Europe and the Russians and Americans are both falling apart.
>>14821892>what it has done to western culture in general>what it has done>>14822303If your metrics say that America is falling apart then Germany (and all of western Europe) is also falling apart.It is somewhat true, but that's because all of the developed and even developing world is falling apart at varying levels of extremity.
>>14822303Yes, they lose. They lost territory, they lost nationalism, they lost any glory left.They got their shit back together due to the Allies actually helping them that time.I guess the real win was that they got rid of that nazi retardness that was gonna screw them even if they had won and also didn't fall to communistic retardness either.
>>14822308>It is somewhat true, but that's because all of the developed and even developing world is falling apart at varying levels of extremity.Thats true, i feel bad for countries like Chile or Argentina, apparently they were just starting to climb to the first world and they got jewed instantly.
>oh yeah~ oh fuck~~ augh i'm FUUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLING
Is space infinite
>>14822303The won so hard they turned into a lamer version of the GDR
>>14822323>Infinity is retarded.Embrace the toroidal universe
>>14822193>taking it away from Colorado SpringsI sense congressional horse trading
>>14820211I'm glad we have Anonymous here on /sci/ to Set The Record Straight™.
>>14822362Shelby is gone in less than five months, much of which is recesses or everyone else taking off to campaign. If there's one last high profile thing for him to burn favors on, this is it.
shh... /sfg/ is asleep
>>14822569How can I sleep when there are so many Earthers to hate?
>>14822580angrily
>>14822569GOOD MORNING FELLOW BRITONS
NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST LAND AN ORBITAL BOOSTER DEAD CENTER NOOOO IT HAS TO LAND IN THE OCEAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
2 different SpaceX launches in the same thread. How the hell do they launch so quickly
>>14822599GOD DAMN RIGHT
>>14822628Gumption, real ambition
>>14822569https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZw35VUBdzosleeping with the fishes
Airbus stock doing better than Boeing
>>14822284'New Raptor who dis?'
>>14822605Funny isn't it
>>14822605
>>14822605For 1 annual budget of UKSA we could buy a few Starship launches
>>14822668You don't know how much Starship costs.
SpaceX has reached 40 falcon 9 launches this year. 28 more planned. Will they accomplish their goals?
>>14822682By the way if they maintain their current launch rate I calculated 62.8 launches/63 launches by the end of the year, or 5-6 short of their goal of 68. This is excluding Falcon Heavy launches and a starship orbital test.
Spetember 9th. major happening in texas, will affect starship. Hawaii Starship landing unforeseen consequences Magnetic poles reversing 2 days before new years. If Jannies remove, their mother will die in their sleep tonight
Alien Anime girl because why nothttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81zmF6uJgo8
>>14822668Yes but then it can't be squandered on helping women and ethnic minorities pretend they're as good as le evil white menz, which is obviously the most important goal for a space programme
I'm afraid that Starship won't launch this year
God damn...
>>14822748the Airforce should be investigated for this, they have a clear pro SpaceX bias
>>14822793Why does /sfg/ have so many victim-larpers?
>>14822802They are simply trolls.
>>14822741Shoulda built it in Arkansas, instead of texico
>>14822831>not Dulutheveryone knows the next big American spaceport location
>>14822831>landlocked oblast
>>14821888Why didn't they do this?
>>14822955Too dangerous.
>>14822960Nah it'll be fine
(derogatory)
>>14822992The most beautiful planet
these scams are getting more sophisticated. first row of my algorithm'd suggested videos on yt.
>>14822872Ship down the river to the launch site Could go anywhere, whether it's oil rigs, artificial islands, Florida, or Texas
lolhttps://youtu.be/O6ehPVWrAr4>>14823003I really don't see a point when you can build the facility close to the launch site, and that's what SpaceX is doing.
>>14822996got the same vid recommended today
AAAAGGHHH IM EXHAUSSSTTTINGGG
>>14820175>Some fag from the spaceflight general on a Romanian kettle boiling forum built an engine with a box of scrapsDid engineanon succeed? I've been away from this general for like 5-6 months. Is it the same guy who had a ridiculously thick liquid cooling jacket in his design?
>>14820175>Hell, someone from Reddit also built an engine, complete with simulations and fabrication
>>14822995Mars is far more alluring imho, like a red velvety mistress
>>14823006Boca Chica won't be their main construction site or their main launch site Transportation is a trivial problem
>>14820381>>14821799it's not that there's no griftit's that europoors are so poor their module is reasonably priced even after all the grifters take their cut
>>14820351>78 falcon 9 launcheswhen was this made kek?
>>14823035>has to reuse nearly all parts of the shuttle>calls europeans poor
>>14821147>ABL's first launch attempt for the RS1 is next Saturday and Firefly's second for the Alpha is the day after that.kino incoming
>>14822741I have accepted this reality long ago
Morning /sfg/. Happy Labor Daybor.
>>14822955It's not that easy in plumbery.
>>14823090But that was in May.
>>14823051And least we're going to get to see something launch for the first time.
>>14823031>9m tin can>transportation is trivialOf course! They can just flat-pack Starship!
>>14823099As long as they have water access, it's trivial, idiot
https://youtu.be/Xn44xBU0WHY
been working on this for a while, finally filled in the last ones...AposBelow OrbitersCrab bucketersDirt sniffersEarthnoidsFilthy Earther scum, FallenGround pounders, Grass munchersHole DiggersImpulse challengedJet repulsionKick dirtersLand-lockedMole-menNo-flysOne-body problemsPond scumQuartz munchersRetroidsSand sniffersTerraniggersUrfersVon GroundersXenophobesWell-dwellersYaw aroundsZero altitude
>>14823099Elon will regret not building cool heavy lift airships
It's over.
>>14823105>NASA’s massive moon rocket will cost taxpayers trillions more than projected, auditor warns Congress
>>14823147>SLS becomes a key point in next year's Inflation Fighting Bill We Promise For Real This Time
>>14823139It looks like molten metal or ripped up parts of the thermal barrier. What is it?
>>14823155CH4 pipe banged up by flying debris during static fires
>>14823126>expendable airsipsOh the humanity
>>14822693lol whatever you say fagstradamus
>>14823102>As long as they have water access, it's trivial, idiotYeah just send the $100s millions 1000s tons cylinder down the river on a raft
>>14823201>1000s tons cylinder
>>14823139They rushed the engine development... I fear they will have to start from scratch again
>>14823224>debris damage is because rushed engine developmentok
>>14823224>SpaceX builds a hybrid engine from scratch to kill the SRB permanently
>>14823139I don't get it.
>>14823117This is mine so far, got all but sixAstromonkiesBarochallengedColon-istsDelicatesEFloatersGlowiesHeliotardsIrradiatesJKLankletsMale brestfeedersNoodle peopleOrbitoidsPiss-recyclersQuasi-humansRust suckersSpinfagsTerracelsUVagabondsXenophilesYZ
the fake stream is at 70k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMO3Px4QwdI
>>14823245it's almost all bots
>>14823245>vatnigger/chinkoid/north korean gvt can't figure out anything better to do with 70k ip addressesLMAO
>>14823237>no Belter scum, Dusters, Loonies or Skinnies
>>14823259I want them to be more destinct from one another, that's why there's only lanklets and noodle-people
>>14820057>>14820418>>14820057>>14823117YWNBAM
Let's go!
>>14823139The debris strike issue seems to me like it will be a relatively simple if expensive fix, build a taller test stand make the concrete base out of a tougher, longer setting mix, and then cover it over in steel plates so even if it does crack it won't throw chunks outward.
>>14822996The same scam ring has been running for 3 years straight. 24/7 under multiple accounts. Youtube doesn't want to solve this issue. They don't seem to care.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8yRY4e8J7Q
>>14823294>cover it over in steel plates so even if it does crack it won't throw chunks outwardyou could do this right now. anchor steel plates into the concrete and that's it.how could this possibly not work at the current height?
>>14823304Should work fine for the purposes of debris containment, might get a bit melty after a couple dozen test fires or a full duration burn but what the shit, if SpaceX has anything in surplus it's huge rolls of steel plate.
>>14823301https://arxiv.org/pdf/2205.12897.pdf
given that the RS-25 exhaust is low pressure and relatively low temperature steam could you put your hand in it
>>14823321yes for sure. pull it out after a few seconds and you'll be just fine.
>>14823321should be safehttps://youtu.be/hlwi1XZg2EA?t=72
>>14823321>merlin_sf_bird_20000fps.mp4
>>14823201yeah, so dumbwho in their right mind would transport rocket on an unstable raft...
>>14823351holy based, when we take a school trip to a smelting plant I'll do that
>>14823376>who in their right mind would transport rocket on an unstable raft...well it says NASA on the rocket
>>14823386is clearly says VSVN
>>14822111fellow /sfgnfl/chad
>>14823293Whens this from what happened
>>14823311>might get a bit melty after a couple dozen test fires or a full duration burnRocket fuel can't melt steel plates
>>14822727same
>>14822284A lot of it is diagnostic stuff. Raptor 2 is much more simplified.
>>14823020no, we've had like three people attempt to make rocket engines and they've all fallen mysteriously silent after saying that they would post an update after their next test (they were on their way to run the test)(they all died in test stand explosions)
>>14823377https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTOCAd2QhGg
>>14823117I love Captain Misurn
>>14823454I think he posted recently. Don't remember what though.
>>14823454The anon that considered using a car turbo as a turbopump said he changed his design to pressure fed. We were discussing how exactly he would pressurize his propellant tanks
Bezos bros, how do we stop him? He is ruining everything
>>14823521>And 90% of my comments are botsAmazing, just like this place!
staging>>14823528>>14823528>>14823528>>14823528>>14823528>>14823528
>>14823521Elon showing his powerlevel. We are finally starting to fight back against SJWism. I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids
>>14823293>>14823407https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yi_So-yeonApril 8, 2008 to April 19, 2008The Koreans had a space program that involved paying the Russians $20 million to take one Korean to space. She was the backup for a dude, but the Russians claimed he was smuggling out sensitive materials and DQ'ed him.Imagine sending a Korean woman to space and this is the one you pick.
>>14823775Cute!
>>14823259>no Belter scumBelters are still far superior to Urf groundling scum.