/sci/ - Science & Math

>>14809929
Wait 'til you find out that there is no afterlife and this is all you get.. Heh, really makes you so depressed you waste it.

>>14809930
w-what? no...it continues in some way, right?

please never reproduce

Dying is a choice. There are numerous methods to extend your life.
>selegiline
+30%
>subQ epithalon
+40%
>nad+
+20%
>cholesterol maxing
Lowers all cause mortality if adjusted for obesity
>low BMI
Live longer
>no alcohol
Less inflammation
>intermittent fasting
+10%
>calorie restriction
+30%
>sexual abstinence or restraint (no masturbation)
Increases the lifespan of rodents and flies in several studies. There is a trade off between reproduction and aging.
>MT-2
Prevents UV induced skin aging by increasing melanin pigmentation.
>not eating shit
Eating a Paleolithic diet of mammal meat/organs and God tier fruits like blueberries.

>>14810153
>Dying is a choice

>>14809929
>OMG LIFE IS GOOD I WANT TO LIVE AS LONG AS POSSIBLE PLEASE SCIENCE GIVE ME EVERY LITTLE SECOND I CAN LIVE I WANT TO LIVE SOO MUCH NO I DON'T WANT TO STOP LIVING BECAUSE I LOVE LIVING SO MUCH I NEVER EVER WANT IT TO STOP NOT IN A MILLION BILLION YEARS BECAUSE I LOVE LIVING SO MUCH
Why? Most of my and everyone I know's days are mostly just bland and repetitive with a few good and bad moments here and there. I couldn't imagine being so addicted

>>14810219
In current year, it is.

>>14809929
my dog died in my arms yesterday at the vet
i'm pretty upset because the only thing she did wrong was be born before science could extend her life
at least we gave her the best life possible

>>14810293
Had a better life than mine.

>>14810293
OaaaOOooaAW

I JUST DHUAIIIID IN YOUR ARMS TONAIHT!

>>14810370
that song is about having an orgasm dumbass

>>14810293
>NOT THE HECKIN DOGGERINOOOOOOOOO
>WHAT'S THAT? THERE'S MILLIONS OF OTHER DOGS THAT SPENT THEIR LIVES STARVING AND BRUTALIZING EACH OTHER FOR SCRAPS OF FOOD? BUT MY HECKIN SPECKIN BLEM SNOOT CLOUD BOI WOOFER

>>14809929
>i just found out that i have to die some day
January 17th, 2023.

>>14809929
Damn, OP. That really sucks, bro.

>>14810409
yeah and
your family barely tolerates you but I will love my dog forever get over it

>>14810451
Built for pitbull BBC

>>14809929
Only faith can help you. Jesus is Kang of all Kangz

>>14810515
He is deh lawd of dem rangz
kang of khangz

>>14810221
>>OMG LIFE IS GOOD I WANT TO LIVE AS LONG AS POSSIBLE PLEASE SCIENCE GIVE ME EVERY LITTLE SECOND I CAN LIVE I WANT TO LIVE SOO MUCH NO I DON'T WANT TO STOP LIVING BECAUSE I LOVE LIVING SO MUCH I NEVER EVER WANT IT TO STOP NOT IN A MILLION BILLION YEARS BECAUSE I LOVE LIVING SO MUCH

i say this and look like this

>>14809929
How is dying a thing, though? We have biologically immortal hydras, lobsters, immortal jellyfish.
>bUt tHeY aRe iNveRtEbRAtEs
Greenland shark.
>bUt huMAnS aRE eNdOtHeRmS
Bowhead whale, 200 year lifespan.

The problem is at least partially already solved by nature. Our livers, hearts, kidneys, skin, etc. aren't special. If anything, they are underpowered as we are some of the weakest animals and burn through only half the calories expected for a mammal our size. If a dumb whale can live 200 years, no reason we can't. Elderly people can still retain IQs over 100 and those with a larger anterior cingulate cortex can still retain the memory performance--and more crucially, the Alzheimer's and Dementia resistance--of 25-year-olds.

This is like fusion power. We know it can be done because it's literally happening every day. But no government wants to really invest in it because it doesn't add a new way to blow up millions of people. Yet, it would solve literally every social problem. You think America spends too much finding new ways to blow up brown people? Well even in America, of all places, twice as much money is spent keeping old fuckers alive and "healthy". This is trillions of dollars every year transferred from healthy, productive populations to infirm, unemployed ones. You could fund 10 Apollo programs with the money we transfer to the elderly annually.

You could reduce crime because there would be less discounting of future utility when we can actually expect that our possibility horizons won't be shrinking every decade. You could solve environmentalism because then the future actually WILL be your problem. Everything would be vastly more efficient when we aren't spending resources on unproductive people and everyone is operating with an expanded time horizon.

>>14809929
>i have to die some day,
lol, you don't HAVE to die man.
oh, wait, "die," yeah, yes you have to die. Sorry thought you were talking about something else.

>>14810597
>I say this
So can you answer what makes life so addicting and unbearable to lose?
I wouldn't want to relive 98% of my days

>>14810769
If it was possible to live over the age of 100, billionaires would never die. If they can't stop aging with all their wealth and power, nobody can.

As for hydras and lobsters and jellyfish, they aren't "immortal". They are dying and then being reborn in the same body, going back to an infant state and then growing up again. You think a butterfly remembers being a caterpillar? It doesn't make a difference because they are simple lifeforms and have no sentience or sapience. Even if humans could undergo a similar process, it would still result in the death of the unique individual through scrambling or resetting the brain.

>>14809929
>selegiline
+30%
>subQ epithalon
+40%
>nad+
+20%

What?

>>14811175
It's snake oil, anon.

>>14809930
>>14809940
To be fair, even with the concept of an afterlife, it's a depressing paradigm. Many religions (not just Abrahamic faiths) tend to describe most souls going to the negative afterlife. So yeah, existence is depressing, afterlife or not.

>>14811310
but it's depressing even in the current life

Death to everyone
is gonna come
And it makes hosing
much more fun

>>14809930
"Find that ther is no afterlife" of course lmao

>>14809929
>pretty upset about it
why?

>>14809929

An afterlife exist that is more real than this life. What were living now is like a dream in comparison. You'll see, remember me when the time comes but don't fall for the counterfeit being of light.

>>14811154
Good point. Steve Jobs got cancer and tried to save himself with some retarded fruits only detox diet. It's mostly about the genes you luck into after setting aside the more obvious self-inflicted causes of early death (eating too many calories, chain smoking cigarettes, abusing recreational drugs, being an alcoholic, etc).
Everyone always wants to focus on the small number of things you can modify risks with (usually by some laughably tiny amount e.g. if you cut cured meats out of your diet then your lifetime absolute colon cancer risk goes down from 4.72% to 4% (you hear this reported as a relative risk instead i.e. an 18% increase in cancer risk if you eat cured meats).
The bigger picture is you mostly get whatever cards you were dealt, and if you have the right genes you can be like Keith Richards and actively trash your body for 60 years straight while still being healthy and approaching 80, while if you have the wrong genes then a small extra piece of electricity conducting muscle tissue will short circuit your heart and kill you in your teens while running in a cross country meet.

>>14809929
>i just found out that i have to die some day, and im pretty upset about it

Enjoy the few years you have left!

>>14809929
Wow. How old are you? 5?

>>14809930
Wait 'till you find out you get what you put in ;)

don't worry, I plan to be the first one to figure out the secrets to living forever so I can joy an eternal reign over all the lesser humans. But I don't intend to share such power with just anyone, if at all.

>>14809930
>implying the same process that caused you to exist the first time couldn't happen again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uz6anwm47g

>>14811154
>If it was possible to live over the age of 100, billionaires would never die.
Billionaires are funding life extension research to the tune of hundreds of billions per year right fucking now you retard

>>14809929
kill them all

>>14811658
retarded pic

>>14810822
When I was 21 I read a lot of local news. I often read about how guys maybe my age or slightly older had died senselessly. It was just so bizarre that people like me, who had similar upbringings, watched the same TV shows as me had perished before me. I honestly felt as though each day I lived was an error by the Gods.

Every day that I live, I feel as though I have cheated the Gods and it drives me to want to live more.

>>14809929
>i just found out that i have to die some day, and im pretty upset about it
bragging about having something to live for is privilege flaunting.

>>14809930
There is, but if you're not a jew or if you're circumcised, you can't enter the kingdom. (Galatians 5:2, Matt 15:24)

>>14810153
>microplastics in the air
>lead in your arable land
>floride in the water
>mercury in fish
>glyphosate in your grains and vegetables
>carbon monoxide used to package your meats
>artificial hormones on your meats
>work culture encourages sedentary lifestyle
Truth is, the game was rigged from the start.

I first came to the same realization when I was 12, and saw my first armpit hair. I looked at myself in the mirror, and began to sob. I exist to die. Its something I placed in the back of my mind, although the occasional existential crisis did occur from time to time. At 32, I've become rather successful and have pretty much a perfect life. An overwhelming sense of sadness washes over me whenever I interact with my young toddlers, knowing that they are also doomed to die.

Everyone I know and love will one day succumb to death and cease to exist. Coming across this thread while in my office eating lunch, and I started to sob and cry again. The thought of being an old man at the precipice of death, being forced to take that leap, fills me with horror. Closing my eyes and imagining that moment of death and comes after, well it makes my heart sink saps the life out of me.

At the same time, its been a great motivator. To escape those intrusive thoughts, I focused on hobbies that required all of my focus and brainpower. I got heavily into studying math and competed in IMO, although I never earned a medal.

>>14812783
The absolute state of normies... Imagine being 32 with your own children and still crying over the fact that your bony meatsack won't last forever.

>>14812783
Pussy bitch, death is as natural as breathing. Learn to embrace it, because you sure as fuck wont escape it.

>>14809929
well, not necessarily
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxO9l8_UEuw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87OUb8TBwX0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScJNE0alsaQ

>>14809930
And I was waiting for the afterlife this whole time?

>>14809929
>>14812783
Didnt you all just know it from the start? I thought everyone knew we were all gonna die. You can run from it but you cant do it forever

>>14812955
There is a difference between knowing statements, words and such, and thinking deeply on a concept.
In /sci/let speak, you may know what a black hole is from pop-sci tv, but you don't actually know what a black hole "is" in a deeper sense unless you study.
But yes, children watch the Lion King and have a rough idea of what dying is, but not the implications of it.

>>14812980
If you think dying has any implications, you're the one who has a childlike concept of it. lol

>>14809929
You need to be 18 to post here

>>14812984
>If you think dying has any implications
It does. The implication of your dad dying is that you will grow up without a father. There are many others both personal and interpersonal.
What are you even on about?

>>14812992
Those are implications for other people.

>>14812996
What are the implications of death on your continued consciousness. You're getting hung up on semantics.

>>14813002
>What are the implications of death on your continued consciousness
None. If "your" consciousness is no longer a thing at all, there are no implications from its perspective.

>>14813004
Sure, if you refuse to think about your lack of existence for a possible eternity, its meaningless. A bit reductionist, in the same way you are just a clump of matter, and could be applied to pretty much everything to avoid the question.

>>14813011
>if you refuse to think about your lack of existence for a possible eternity
Like I said, these are kiddie shower thoughts. You're not going to experience any lack of existence for eternity. The only thing you can experience the fear of this purely abstract idea, which is something you actively choose to indulge even though it makes no concrete sense.

>>14812783
Worst post I've seen in years.