/sci/ - Science & Math

>>14783594
Imagine painting your dick as the handle she's holding lol. Just imagine the perplexed look on her face when she realizes hahaha

/sfg/ is fine and returned to port on her own power

Are you excited for Artemis I?

hayley arceneaux

>>14783609

Berger at it again! https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/08/the-sls-rocket-is-the-worst-thing-to-happen-to-nasa-but-maybe-also-the-best/
Oldspace got fat and complacent on pork. Spacex ate the crumbs from the SLS and will eventually replace it. Also interesting that he keeps mentioning blue origin- seems like they’re really far from viability. I haven’t heard any news of their skunkworks Project Jarvis- literally august 2021 is the last time anyone wrote anything about them.

>>14783610
only if there'll be copious amounts of nice photos an videos
I just wanna see more Moon dammit, that chinese rover was underwhelming

>>14783614

>>14783628

how does an erection work in zero G/microgravity?
isn't the bloodflow a bit fucked?

>>14782521
>>14782532

>>14783630
>>14783628
Gee Bill! How come your mom lets you wear 2 watches?

>>14783646
isn't one the radiation thingamajig?

How do i fuck an astronaut (girl)?

someone please god answer me

Wow SLS and JWST launching in the same year. Christmas came early!

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1491964913887027201
You hear that? That is the sound of inevitability and sex.

>>14783799
>february

>>14783767
JWST launched last christmas though

>>14783799
Eh?

Could SpaceX be going nuclear?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLD4DpuGWUA

>>14783618
there was recently some work on jarvis that nasasoiface saw. dont remember what exactly

>>14783843
no, going nuclear wouldn't lower the cost/tonne to mars, it'd dramatically raise it

Is the static like happening soon, it was gonna be last monday at one point

>>14783884
too much piping, too much bloat

>>14783888
she keeps expanding, goodness gracious

So that "long march 11" launch scheduled last night was actually a Kuaizhou-1A

OH NONONONONO

https://twitter.com/wapodavenport/status/1561868816262504450?s=21&t=OpWssl0lw5xuW5jogPGEYw

> NASA's Howard Hu says the main challenge is that the uncrewed Artemis I mission would last 42 days, while the capsule is designed for 21 days with astronauts on board.

> Cabana adds that "42 days puts a lot more stress on all those systems, plus the environment that it's in--longer exposure to radiation, longer exposure to micrometeorite hits. We're going to learn a lot from this test flight."

>>14783843
I've seen the centrifuges down in Boca Chica.

>>14783953
i fail to see why this deserves a (you)

.

>>14783977
Was Elon Musk on the plane? Short hops like that are usually to move the aircraft itself.

>>14783977
im outraged at his outrage!
!!!!!OUTRAGED!!!!!!

>>14783983
they don't know and they don't care
their owners say scream and lie about musky man bad, so they will do it without question
They're property, not people

>>14783977
Sending a bunch of civilians on orbit to fuck around wasn't the thing that was too wasteful, but a brief hop on a jet?

>>14783983
The counterpoint that was raised was that his security detail would never let him take public transit anywhere, and even if they did no human in their right mind would use public transit in the bay area if they had any other possible option.

>>14783953
You CANNOT learn the boundaries of something by never pushing against them.

>what could have been

>>14783953
Boing hedging kek

>>14783997
if they make that pretty core RTLS I will forgive them everything

>>14779296
>I'm busy digging through ntrs papers looking for mass estimates of inflatable parabolic structures for satellites.
curious about this

>>14783888
Aww, Bella's all grown up.

Does the booster have all engines now?

>>14784060
No she is the alien you retard!!!

>>14783977
Risking someone as important as EM on a nigger box is ridiculous.

>>14783913
>>14783922
It looks so strange when it has no markings whatsoever. Not even a flag or a "QZ-1"
Interesting how they combined the gridfins to give stability on the way up, and control after staging

>>14783997
what's the QR code for

>>14784070
Don't be fooled. We have to adopt their armor and weapons to destroy them. It's the only wayy.

>>14783977
>Adam Something
Hilarious to watch him seethe about literally any bit of news. He made a huge seethe fest over a tweet made by a Russian Duma member, which is basically like a parliament member in the US making a similar tweet

Nuclear is inevitable, bros.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLD4DpuGWUA

Methane tards BTFO. Chemical has always been retarded.

>>14783983
It doesn't matter. RICH ELON MUSK BAD

>>14784101
How would you make nuclear cheaper and more logistically simple than chemical?

>>14783977
If I was Elon I'd be creeped out that someone has automated tracking my private jet

>>14784133
If I was Elon I'd bribe that someone into not doing it

>>14784139
Anyone can do it if they give enough shits.

>>14784101
dont call me METHANE TARD >:(

>>14784139
That would just cause 100 more people to do it hoping for their own bribes. I think he actually made an offer privately but the guy blabbed about it to the press and asked for more.

>>14784047
It was interesting diversion that ended up not panning out.

I was also the guy who was saying dumb things like “space based solar power could be more viable if we just use constellations of power satellites in eccentric polar orbits!” The rest of the idea was that above a certain wattage you get more kW/kg by using a solar dynamic power system instead of a photovoltaic one. Using an inflatable parabolic mirror would save on launch mass and there were some designs for large inflatable radio antennas that I figured I could use as a guide for how heavy these would be. I wanted to try and estimate just how big of a power satellite an Ariane 6 could launch. It turns out an Ariane 64 could (maybe?) launch a 2 MW solar dynamic power satellite.

Then I took a look at the gigawattage of an average European nuclear power station and started counting up just how many 2 MW satellites I’d need to match it. It turns out that SBSP is still not a workable idea.

why is Rocket Lab using electric pumps instead of piston driven pumps

EARTHER (derogatory)

>>14783637
It doesn't

DUSTER (complimentary)

do you idiots have anything to say about the landing site candidates?

Launch of Venera-4, which became the first probe to measure Venus' pressure, temperature, magnetic field, hydrogen corona, and atomic oxygen in the first in-situ analysis by a spacecraft.

Notable bit is on the fact that the Venera-4 lander, despite made only for atmospheric analysis, was made to be able to float in case there was liquid water underneath the clouds.

OMG BOOSTEE 7 LIFTTTTTT

>>14784192
It is my goal to see this in a vernacular catalog of some sort one day

I am about to lose my newspace job in one of the eastern european startups. Any recommendations to where else to go?

>inb4 >>>/adv/

>>14784238
To the gun store

>>14784211
Starship tourists will land on every single one of those before Artemis 3 gets its shit together.

Man, 39B tower segment 7 has been hooked up to that crane for a couple of days with no progress
It's over for SpaceX

>>14784294
Have you tweeted at Elon make sure he knows this.

>>14784090
He's an extremely salty r*manian, honestly I'm surprised he doesn't shill for Arca out of pure gypsy butthurt at this point

>>14784170
Sounds like a right cunt desu

>>14784019
I miss this cutie like you wouldn't believe

>>14784274
delusional

>>14784334
Could have had its slavic progenitor zooming around since mid 80s but the Soviets, of course, squandered what they had.

I weep for what could have been.

>>14784228
static tomorrow ??!!

>>14784132
>cheaper and more logistically simple
NTP is meant for manned missions. You don't go cheap on manned missions. Use chemos for one-way unmanned missions, it will be cheaper.

The logistics depends entirely on the propellant. If we are talking liquid hydrogen, then that needs to be a bit cooler than methane, but in the end it's the same system, with the added advantage of not having to carry oxygen.

>>14784238
arcaspace?

>>14784101
Remember that nuclear thermal rockets (not pulse propulsion) was undergoing live-fire tests during the late 60s.

Scrapped by congress because it was going to power Mars missions, never forgive them for what they stole from us.

>>14784359
idkidkidkidkidk maybe today!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjojScPqxNg

Lift B7 happening

why is the booster going back and forth between the bay and launch mount just like the SLS

>>14784238
HIMARS operator on the Ukrainian frontlines. You do like rocketry, don't you anon?

it's been a long road

>>14784372
or Lab Padre to avoid the inane chatter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbBeoReu12E

>>14784351
So to speak, she actually has her progenitor zooming around since mid '60s, but we all know how it went.

>>14783637
>how does an erection work in zero G/microgravity?
it would be extremely painful

>>14784377
>the 34 year old LOOONCHER
>lost his job at an aerospace startup
>self taught rocket enthusiast, has already blown up multiple garages
>will target anyone he's told, Londoners, Russians, Chinese villagers, as long as he can just LAUNCH
>doesn't care, not his department

>>14784414
And I will never, ever, forgive this asshole for cancelling her when she was about 90% done.

>>14784423
even for a big guy?

>>14784400
LOOOOOFTING

3 engine static fire tomorrow
13 engine sf thursday
3 engine s24 sf friday
full engine s24 sf monday
full stack tuesday
33 engine sf thursday
another one the next monday
launch the next tuesday

>>14784458
ambitious but feasible schedule

>>14784444
he's anti-trump. that tells you all you need to know

How hard would it be to make a Parts Bin Landing Module for the moon?

Just whip out the old lem plans. Then see what you can replace with modern in production parts. Then fabricate the rest with modern materials.

>>14784444
checked

>>14784458
Knowing SpaceX

3 engine booster static fire friday
starship 3 engine SF monday
B7 rolled back to high bay tuesday
2 consecutive road closures
S24 6 engine static fire friday
B7 rollout to pad monday
B7 20 engine SF
launch in two months

>>14784363
No, not willing to stay long term in Eastern Europe like this. And Arca is a fucking meme.
>>14784377
I want to be working on development, not operating american sloppy seconds from a decade ago.

>>14784374
You put the rocket in and you take the rocket out
you put the rocket in and you take the rocket out
that's what it's all about.

>>14784427
based

>>14783977
These people would flip out if they realized how often private jets move around with quite literally no passengers. I guarentee Musk wasnt on that jet

So they lifted b7 and then lowered it again. What the fuck is going on?

ARE YOU EXCITED BROS?????? WE ARE GOING
AND SOON

>>14784488
Brownie after seeing the shuttle proposal

>>14784498
But the proposal was good, it's the shitfest following through the seventies that ruined the shuttle

>>14784496
>vsvn
??

>>14784505
>seventies
Holy fuck it has been fifty years and we are just now surpassing that kind of space capability. Sobering

The SLS is gonna BREAK!

>>14784496
Did she finally fix her shoes

>>14784496
meh

>>14784496
Who's "we" and where are they going?

>>14784414

>>14784537
Open the door
Get on the floor
Everyone fly the Dynasoar

>>14784515
Unfortunately most of the really good stuff was gated behind cheap, fast microprocessors, or classified bits of data from materials science and nuclear engineering. Elon's fast-iteration approach is the only way to break that logjam.

>>14784374
Elon keeps misclicking the "Stage Rocket" button.

>>14784457
What are those 4 big ridges up the side of the tank? I don’t recall seeing them on early super heavies.

>>14784360
>You don't go cheap on manned missions.
If you're trying to send hundreds of thousands of people to Mars, you do. There is no reason people can't do six months to Mars.

>>14784360
Note that I do believe NTP will be used by the military and government, but just not by SpaceX.

>>14784360
Also the logistics are much worse, because the starships have to have their engines swapped out in LEO after reaching orbit. Sfg has done the math before and NTP is just way worse then chemical for getting to Mars.

>>14783882
Why are you being a Redditor? They stacked it on the OLM, what do you think anybody has to tell you?

>>14784469
>How hard
harder than making one from scratch. the lem is complicated.

>>14784640
Enough with the antisemitism.

>>14784646
Lost.

I don't get why people come to /sfg/ trying to tell us space is fake and expecting to actually change any of our opinions, when they probably don't even know what ∆V is

>>14784640
it's fake????

>>14784688
Huh it’s gonna be like the VAB in there

>>14784691
almost like nasa did it right the first time and spacex just copies them (dcx)

>>14783637
Erections are caused by erectile tissue restricting blood flow OUT of the penis, which only depends on you having blood pressure, which is independent of gravity.
Lack of boners in space is a psyop and a coverup to deflect any notions that astronauts may be fucking and getting fucked up there.

>>14784698
i work for nasa, this is 100% false

>>14784640
What movie?

>>14783862
Correct. 2x performance per transfer doesn't matter if the cost per transfer goes up 10x. Nuclear propulsion would be very useful for getting out to the far asteroid belt/Jupiter though.

NTP is like the Space Shuttle. Go pulsed nongovernment propulsion or go home.

>>14783953
>>14783969
>>14783998
>Check out our advanced new deep space crew vessel built to take us to the Moon to stay!
>What? No, it's only designed to operate for up to three weeks on its own
>>14784031
Orion is a lockmart product

“You could … maybe get a feeling that their [SpaceX’s] system is ready to go. And it’s not yet. We’re in design and development. … We’re still developing. We’re still changing. And we’re gonna get smarter and then we’re gonna have an incredible launch and we’re gonna have an incredible landing.” Lisa Watson-Morgan

>>14784238
Sweden

Two words: orbital tugs

One of the scientists in the audience expressed concern about whether the crew actually will be able to get down to and back from the surface to do science. Starship is very tall and has an elevator to get up and down.

Watson-Morgan offered assurances it will work. The elevator is multi-fault tolerant, she said, and NASA and SpaceX are working together hand-in-hand to test it, including with crews.

https://spacenews.com/op-ed-the-space-launch-system-is-americas-space-program/

vs

https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/08/the-sls-rocket-is-the-worst-thing-to-happen-to-nasa-but-maybe-also-the-best/

so if 1 SLS can launch as much as 338 Falcon 9, why are you so mad? we should be building the fuck out of sls. my 2 cents

Zubrin

>>14784734
zubrin futures not good

>>14784700
sus

>>14784731
based congressman

>>14784715
Who and about what?

>>14784747
MSFC's HLS manager in the managing expectations phase

>>14784723

>>14784747
Starship.

>>14784751
This reads like a Francis Dec rant, bravo

>>14784751
This is the new Bezozian angle

>>14784751
unhinged
Also, fuck the ozone layer.

>>14784751
>muh ozone layer
DID YOU KNOW
THAT BURNING EXPENDABLE ROCKET BODIES
POLLUTE WAY MORE THAN CLEAN CRYOGENIC EXHAUST

Starship lost the space race. Upvote if you agree

>>14784787
>787
MACS typed this post

it doesnt matter wat anyone or the trolls say. starship is better and elon musk is a hero

>>14784799
You must be 18 or older

>>14784799
https://youtu.be/Kfmap8XNo5U
Get ready to start crying you faggot fuck

>>14784799
based

I just met a guy who tested piloting Apollo capsule sims for the project. He's a cool guy.

>>14784787
What race? Race to launch first?

Outer 20 Raptors have new QD plates for the methane voonts. Probably another temporary solution instead modifying existing QD and replacing the extending arms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7F64jXHrh0
T-5:00
Wallops is sounding

https://twitter.com/SpcPlcyOnline/status/1562161422003589121

LEAG meeting shares what I *think* is a new photo of the SpaceX HLS elevator prototype.

>>14784867
>what I *think* is a new photo of the SpaceX HLS elevator prototype.
we have never seen any HLS prototype hardware before other than the white nosecone.

>>14784867
https://twitter.com/we_martians/status/1562162313972666371

>>14784869
forgot to imply the implications.

>>14784870
fraud&scam

>>14784867
I hate fat women. They're always assholes.

>>14784751
If you've found a retard willing to listen to an explanation as to why they're wrong about reusability using up >10% of a LV's fuel, first of all lol you haven't, but just for fun here's a preschool level explanation:
We'll give each second an engine fires a "fuel point"
For example, Falcon 9, fires all 9 of it's engines for ~2:30 on initial ascent, so 9 x 150 = 1350
Re-entry burn, 3 x 25 = 75
Landing burn, 1 x 30 = 30
Total reusability related fuel consumption is 105 fuel points, around 7%

>>14784892
this is so simple yet is highly accurate.
super heavy will not be doing a reentry burn but a boostback. how long are those?

>>14784899
>super heavy will not be doing a reentry burn but a boostback.
It'll be doing both like F9 does on RTLS. They're designed to stage at the same speed (~2km/s).

>>14784907
nope. super heavy will not be doing a reentry burn

>>14784584
aerocovers with COPVs underneith

>>14784101
As someone who has been shilling NTP this video is like watching 20 minutes of nothing of value being said.

He also fucks up why the RL10 has such high ISP, it's because it is an expander cycle not because of hydrolox.

>>14784867
Why do they need an elevator? Can't they just huck down a rope?

Can that be the backup if the elevator breaks?

>>14784892
>Noooo thunderfoot said that half the fuel was for landing!
> what about overly complicated ISP calculations with exact fuel measurements that make the results skewed towards whatever way you want you can't just time how long an engine fires

>>14784924
>Can that be the backup if the elevator breaks?
it will be. unless the nasa soi twigs decide that an astronaut COULDN'T POSSIBLY climb a rope in an eva suit.

>>14784932
Climb a rope in an eva suit IN LOW GRAVITY nonetheless.

>>14784926
7% is actually an overestimation. The Merlin 1Ds are firing at 100% power on ascent but the center engine could dial it down as low as 40% for the landing burn.

>>14784932
Isn't HLS going to have a redundant elevator? I remember hearing something about it having doors on either side of the ship.

>>14784932
Anon you do realize they can't use their legs to support themselves on the rope? The EVA suits don't have that much maneuverability.
Also the rotating waist piece would probably get in the way.
So why not just do something like a winch with a boot loop and a wrist band that lifts the astronaut up incase of emergencies?

>>14784937
>The Merlin 1Ds are firing at 100% power on ascent but the center engine could dial it down as low as 40% for the landing burn
it's a huge waste and the only reason they would ever do that is to increase margins to account for wind and waves.
i expect for RTLS and super heavy they'll be close to 100% throttle all the way down.

>>14784703
>2x performance per transfer doesn't matter if the cost per transfer goes up 10x

It does if that 2x performance is needed to make the transfer in an acceptable amount of time.

>>14784937
Yeah I realized that the landing burn probably used less fuel than a full throttle engine for the whole time, but I kept it simple because there's a throttle down for max Q on accent, and it probably evens out, considering that the acceleration at max Q barley changes

>>14784923
It's a bit of both. Even a gas generator hydrolox engine can pull ~425s of Isp. The RS-25 is FRSC but still has 80s better Isp (~450s vs. ~380s) than the FFSC RVac because of the propellant difference.

>>14784876
AlrightDave is someone who thinks SLS will drop from $4 billion to $800 million per flight.

>>14784945
>make the transfer in an acceptable amount of time
so not mars because 6 months is not an issue.

>>14784953
It starts mattering a lot more for the gas giants.

>>14784952
AlrightDave probably isn't aware of SLS because thunderfoot hasn't talked about it for some reason

I don't give a FUCK about what some niggers on twitter think

>the MMR launch system lives rent free in their heads
chuds can't cope

>>14784937
>>14784939
on second thought if they really have two elevators i can see them not having a safety rope.
i imagine the rope interfering with the elevator mechanism would be a big concern it can't just be dangling, there would have to be a whole spool thing on the elevator cart to pull it taut during normal operation.

>>14784946
The 'fuel point' idea is probably the best simplification for explaining it. It's hard enough to find fuel consumption data for when an engine is firing at full power, let alone when its varying the throttle. All I know is that 40% throttle doesn't have to correspond to 40% fuel consumption.

>>14784943
Given how light a rocket can be after its burned off most of its fuel lighting even a few of the engines at 100% could be enough thrust to make it start going back up again. You can get away with a 100% burn but your timing has to be very, very good.

>>14783977
I like how they conveniantly forget about the impact Elon has on reducing emissions to counter these hops (which every plane does btw)

Average annual footprint in the US is 16 tons, so let's be generous and triple this for Elon which makes 48 tons annually.
In 2020 the amount of Teslas sold reduced the average annual emissions by roughly 5 million tons.
With that Elon's annual carbon footprint lies somewhere around -4,952,000 tons. Add to that SpaceX's annual pollution (425 tons in 2020), which makes a -4,127,000 metric ton carbon footprint. These are the figures from two years ago and Tesla has only grown since then, and this is without accounting in the pollution reduced by Tesla batteries and solar cells (~1.6 million tons)

Fags need to find something else to seethe about

>>14784869
We’ve seen elevator hardware before—lurk more

>>14784986
>conveniantly
stopped reading right there

>>14784991
is elon's son a total retard?

>>14784990
by golly you're right

>>14784991
ok

>>14784996
pretty sure one of them is a tranny

>>14784999
told you :)
As a side note I wonder if Moonship really WAS the least risky option. Obv spacex was a better choice over blue who and dynetics (not to mention the low cost and high capability) but overall it’s very, very dependent on Starship development as a whole. I just think it’s crazy that NASA thought they could get away with getting a lander from ANYONE in such a short time period. The difference in time between the selection and the first planned use of the lander is ball numbingly thin. I guess the plan was to just expect Boeing to win?

>>14785002
The man has like thirty kids. Once you starting going absolute quiverfull you're bound to get at least a few duds.

>>14785013
maybe when youre raised by...well...you know...a circus clown

>>14785013
I want to keep this on topic to the best of my ability so all I will say is that there are countless amounts of catholic families with like 20 children, all of whom are straight edge and don’t go tranny
This will obviously be applicable for something like an off world colony where you need large families. Grow them as secular scientism söys and you are bound to get a lot more basket cases in the gene pool versus raising a colony with some sort of traditional religious foundation. Better to have a few loose screws who focus their autism on theology versus ones who cut appendages off and refuse to work

>>14785022
>some sort of traditional religious foundation
like a spacer religion perhaps?

>>14785022
>>14785025
he's well aware

>>14785025
mormonism is cosmic

>>14785025
sovl

>>14785031
mormonism is early-TNG-weird-colony-with-dark-secret-episode

>>14784723
>Op-Ed by Virginia (Ginger) Barnes
>Virginia (Ginger) Barnes retired from The Boeing Company as Vice President of the Space.
>Also Boeing's SLS Program Manager
One's a journalist

Another's a PR fluff from the program manager at the defense corporate headquarters

>>14785010
The Boeing design wouldn't have been a bad lunar lander. It's shockingly boring in how conventional it is, but not trying anything new or exciting meant that it should have been safer and more reliable than Dynetics's drop tanks, the National Team's in-orbit assembly, or SpaceX deciding to go full fucking Flash Gordon. The only real flaw was that it needed an SLS 1b launch all to itself, and the only way that ever going to happen was if Orion got canceled and its job was handed off to a Lunar Dragon/Falcon Heavy.

The institutional expectation is almost always that the inside will win

>>14785022
Fertile tradcath space waifu WHEEEEEEEN AAAAAAAHHH

>>14784957
>for some reason

>>14785050
i would unironically not hate the SLS if it had a proper upper stage and was fixed price.

>>14785051
the CGI from jimmy neutron has aged surprisingly well, truth be told

>>14785031
Mormonism is so deep into christian heresy territory that they're three pubes away from being Scientologists.

>>14785050
I really want to hate this rocket. There were so many better ways they could have designed it, even if they were going to be stuck using legacy contractor tech.

>>14785054
It's what happens when you stylized something. Anything can look good if its styled well.

the utter disbelief when mars society hosts beheld starship-chan live will go down as one of the cringiest moments in spaceflight. the guy didnt know he was meant to see it. "uh i think youre on the wrong slide...uhh we just see an anime girl on screen"

>>14785031
>>14785037
iirc the Mormon church has already stated or implied interest in setting up their own Mars colony once starship is rolling
their deep fucking coffers from tithes will surely help bankroll it

>>14785065
powerful

>>14785066
I work with a lot of Mormons and every time I ask about the Mars colony they never give me a straight answer

>>14785065
I remember watching that live, Jesus Christ.

>>14785065
when was this lmao

>>14785055
>I really want to hate this rocket. There were so many better ways they could have designed it, even if they were going to be stuck using legacy contractor tech.
It really feels stagnant. Oh, you trimmed down the shuttle and stuck it on top of the orange tank? That's the only change in 50 years?

An SLS heavy - SLLLS or SSLSS - even an SSS would be amazing to watch.

>>14785065
>>14785078
I'd like to take a look at the thread, the livestream was on 14.10.2021, but fireden is complete shit and doesn't actually work anymore as an archive

the most advanced rocket engine ever built looks like a dilapidated piece of third world cookware

>>14785093
this baby can hold so much naan

>>14785095
THREE NAAN? ARE YOU INSANE?

>>14784518
It tough living on hand me downs.

>>14785103
>british humor

>>14785115
>british humor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THNPmhBl-8I

>>14785115
>british humor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG-k6iSVx68

>>14785121
it's funny because it's true! this and SNL still the pinnacle of funny

>>14783594
Is that Romanon's tomboy waifu?

>>14785081
If you went with an SSLSS you could fly it like the largest Titan: nothing but boosters at launch with an air-started core.

>>14784214
>Venus didn't turn out to be a permanently clouded steamy jungle planet populated with amazonian vixens
We were robbed

>>14783953
>the capsule is designed for 21 days with astronauts on board.
what the fuck

>>14784133
I would buy 10 more jets and have them fly around the world constantly at random so nobody could ever guess which jet I was using.

>>14783953
>>14784710
? Apollo missions lasted <2 weeks each. If they're spending more than 3 weeks to transfer to the Moon then there's some kind of major fuckup.

>>14785173
The cosmic silence is the greatest disappointment of space exploration efforts to date.

>>14785093
That piece is shit is going to shake itself apart in less than 5 seconds.

>>14785249
You think it'd be better if we were forced to respond to aliens? If their ships were bearing down on our recklessly broadcast radio signals?

>>14785291
It'd get shit moving quick that's for sure.
Imminent danger is the second best motivator right after pussy

>>14785291
Verbally? Not really. Technologically? You bet your ass.

>>14785173
Hnggggggg I’m off topic but there’s a reason fox is a synonym for sexy

>>14785303
Are you some sort of zoophile?

>>14785308
Only for things with hooves.

One of the SLS VP's wrote an oped in spacenews:
https://spacenews.com/op-ed-the-space-launch-system-is-americas-space-program/

Am I just too deep in the muskrat koolaid or is this woman living in some parallel universse? How can people be so willfully delusional about the reality of SLS - a dinosaur of a rocket that's been holding us back for years?? I want to yell unspeakable obscenities at this person

>>14783637
no, just like you can have an erection on earth while lying down just fine. those who say it's impossible in zero-g because blood doesn't flow down towards your legs either have negative iq or erectile dysfunction.

>>14784019
Why didn't they go for a integrated second stage crewed space plane?

>>14785308
>Fur-curious

>>14785193
Based deception artist

>>14785336
She knows. You only see pieces like this as damage control when a rival is overtaking a project. Nobody ever had to run one for the Saturn V or the F-4 Phantom or the Nimitz class.

>>14785010
Could they make it land upside down?
It shouldn't take much thrust to get it to a high enough altitude to allow it to flip and use its main engines

>>14785295
So you're saying if we moved all the women to Mars we'd be there in no time? Hmm, now how do we get all the women to Mars...

>>14785439
I call it the Mars-Pussy-Paradox, short MPP

>>14785438
meds

>>14785444
What if we convinced the world there was hot Martian pussy there, and they won't falsely accuse you of rape. Imagine the turn around!

>>14785447
You're just mad you didn't think of it first

What does the falsification of COAM and the advent of COAE mean for space flight?

>>14785485
What?

>>14785493
The falsification of conservation of angular momentum by John Mandlbaurs theoretical physics paper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkRsmjV1mfE

>>14785493
Don't reply again, you might not now him if you only visit /sfg/, but he's a very active schizo, and he will shit up any thread beyond recognition if you reply

>>14785516
Trust me, I've already realized.

>artemis is real
>we're actually on our way back to the moon
mild hype

>>14785291
why must dalmatians be so mean? they're very pretty.

>>14784932
The elevator is pretty simple, and it will probably have a manual crank option as a backup. Even if the elevator gets stuck somehow you could probably cut it lose and jury rig the cables to get up and down in a harness.
They'll probably have spare rope/cables around anyway though, as that's likely something you'd want for surface operations anyway.

>>14784932
>>14785545
They should give the astronauts spring boots so they can leap up.

>>14785552
They should leave the astronauts on the Moon.

>>14785577
there's just one problem with that idea: you can't jack off in a space suit.

In my opinion The best future we can hope for based on current trends is somewhere between For All Mankind and The expanse before the proto-molecule.

post more SLS pics

>>14785579
You can in that one.

Over 230 members of the Mars 2020 >Perseverance Rover Science Team gathered at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, CA during June 2022 for a week of in-person science discussions, rover operations, and instrument team meetings. For many, it had been over 3 years since we’d seen each other face-to-face.

>>14785607
What's happening here?

>>14785607
>no masks
based. maybe they left all the seething unironic communoids on the curiosity team
>>14785608
someone is pretending and failing to be a woman

>>14785620
>As the team gathered and prepared to head inside (masks required!) for 4 days of science presentations and discussions, joy and excitement were the dominant feelings.

>>14785626
>4 days
>in person
you're literally killing grandma

>>14785620
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the badly shopped dude with the cap on.

>>14785608
>>14785620
>>14785633
That's just a cardboard cutout of a dude with a headband.

>>14785633
>with the cap on
-3 credit wumao

>>14785633
>>14785638
behind the cardboard guy is a troon though

>>14783594
Fuck you

>>14785652
There is no reason to be upset.

>>14785646
Why are you taking my credits?
I need those

I wonder what janitorial duties are being performed right now.

>>14785670
picrel

>>14785675
Is that total days or days during their current stay?
Because 524 days seems pretty fucking hefty for one stay

>>14785679
kek neither, the site ist just wrong. ms-21 has been in space 159 days

>>14785692
all of the times are wrong. idk how you can fuck this up

>>14785275
Then they'll fix it again!

>>14785190
pretty good to be honest. This isn’t star trek where you get free food, free oxygen, free waste contamination, etc. out of thin air. Orion is basically like a big camping tent that can keep about a month’s worth of self-sufficient supplies in the event it needs to function without a destination that has cargo. It could probably be extended with modifications though

>>14785529
>Artemis is real, you've seen it down at Starbase

>>14785732
>a month
Imagine the smell

>isolated for a month alone with a cute space tomboy crewmate

>>14785843
>Children conceived on the Moon are mere years away
imagine

>>14785626
>>14785620
you mean you have people still wearing them?
I've been to an international conference almost half a year ago and the only people wearing those stupid things were Americans

>>14785874
No I don't. I just know what kind of people work at JPL on the Mars rovers.

>>14783608
you should try the stable diffusion software from /g/ so you can post decent OCs. It would actually look pretty cool

>>14785969
elaborate

>>14785978
>>>/g/88273087
you can write a prompt or upload an sketch to improve it with ai stuff. There are several websites for that if you dont know/cant afford the hardware required.

is anything going to happen today?

>>14785996
maybe sf. maybe not.
is there a closure?

>>14785988
I can't get it to work with a prompt

>>14785988
>>14786017
This was my best attempt

>>14786017
>>14786018
Ignore the prompt stuff, you need to process your sketch with img2img. but anyway. lets see if someone from /g/ has the cpu power and good heart to help, i really want to see how would look like.
>>>/g/88274453

>>14784238
Leverage your experience and switch to designing domestic water heaters

>>14784238
If you live in EU, you will have more opportunities in the west.

>>14784751
does he think expendable first stages don't reenter the atmosphere?

>>14784751
this post is too informed to not know what he's talking about. an eloquently-crafted troll post

>>14783594
Do they have s*x in space?
I mean, in the name of science and research, this is something that must be clarified.
And, frankly, i think this had come to the mind of literally everyone involved at nasa

so did no one here posted how perseverance found life on mars huh? shame on you

>>14786191
If it happens, none of the astronauts have admitted to it

>>14786197
are they bashful?

>>14786200
Considering they're within view of a camera 99% of their time in space? Yeah

>>14786204
You never know with women. Lots of them are exhibitionist sluts

>>14786204
Just stick some tape over the lens like everybody with a laptop does.
>"Station, please uncover Zvesda camera #5"
>no
>"Station, please-"
>make us, faggot

>>14786207
*starves you of oxygen*

>>14786215
ground control has no power in the sky

>>14786217
enjoy eating eachother

>>14786220
Enjoy the empty ISS deorbiting out of control over a major capitol.

>>14786231
nah we'll just crash a dragon into it and be just fine, bye bye space janitors!

>>14786236
i would just go to the chinese station. it's cleaner and more roomy

>>14785732
What was the plan for that obama era asteroid redirect mission? A hab module?

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1562477813613047811

>>14785607
Why are there so many women?

>>14786266
lol i hate T mobile, but whatever. more $$$ for spacex

>>14786275
It's ok anon, I know you haven't seen one in a long while but just act normal and it'll all be fine.

>>14786275
All the useful employees are inside doing their jobs.

>>14785308
it comes from the japs, and they're strictly into humanized monstergirls, as god intended

>>14786277
S1mp
There really shouldn't be that many women in a stem job unless they weren't hired on merit

>>14786275
It's mostly men. It just looks like there's a lot of women because they all crowded to the front of the group. Some of that is because they are statistically shorter, but there are more than a few that are slaves to the feminine impulse to seek out any form of attention or validation.

>>14785874
you see masks anywhere where there's still terrorized goycattle
its how you know who to not consider worth talking to

https://youtu.be/Qzli-Ww26Qs

>>14786307
Is Clear streaming this?

>>14786297
Common retard cope.

>>14786193
Mars Guy said desert varnish is inconclusive.

you shouldn't keep her waiting, /sfg/

>>14786326
She's kept us waiting, delay after delay after delay

>>14786326
Oh, I didn't realize I was a leak in the hydrogen GSE.

>>14786325
Nigger scientists would say aliens are inconclusive if they saw one fucking their wife

>>14786326
She looks angry, like she's ready to... explode?

>>14786356
What did you do to anger her so?

>>14786326
how much does it cost to pay some artist to draw a burnt corpse of her when SLS explodes on the first fly test?

NASA has come a long way since the Apollo program when there was only one woman — JoAnn Morgan — working in Firing Room 1 of Kennedy Space Center’s Launch Control Center. Now, about 30% of the staff responsible for launching and monitoring the Space Launch System (SLS) rocket and Orion spacecraft for the Artemis program are women. Under the Artemis program, NASA will launch the first woman and next man to the lunar surface, using the Moon as a testing ground before venturing on to Mars.

>>14786388
as seen in Apollo 11 doc

>>14786307
At first I assumed this would be starlink thing, but I guess it would say so if it was.

>>14786388
>NASA will launch the first woman and next man to the lunar surface
You mean first woman and first basketball american on the moon

https://spacepolicyonline.com/news/skeleton-starship-lunar-lander-demo-not-required-to-lift-off-from-moon/

NASA is not requiring SpaceX to demonstrate that its Starship Human Landing System can take off from the lunar surface before using it for the Artemis III mission and the test vehicle will be a “skeleton” of the actual lander. NASA selected SpaceX to build the lander for Artemis III preceded by an uncrewed test flight, but the head of NASA’s HLS program said today the demo does not include liftoff. She also stressed that Starship is still in the design and development phase with many challenges ahead, not ready to go as some seem to believe.

>>14786409
Nope, not anymore

>>14786388
>make redundant or pointless job
>fill said jobs with women
Look how many womyns there are!

>>14786369
Get with the times; you can just feed that prompt into some AI.

>>14786414
Why not have a masculine presenting trans lesbian?
They could also have her be trans racial.

>>14786410
HLS is so fucking tall they don't need it to lift off. The astronauts can just jump to the Gateway.

>>14786410
>not ready to go as some seem to believe
No shit, we have yet to know if it actually will work.

>>14786414
So we're not going to get a minority on the moon until at least 2028? Yikes.

All 33 engines installed

Why germany is so behind the space race when they are famous for its engineering? Im learning german now so i was wondering

>>14786414
sorry jack
no darkies allowed

>>14786450
Germany was destroyed and her engineers looted away to foreign lands to grow their fruit there.

Are these people for real?
https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceLaunchSystem/comments/wwp3f7/what_do_you_like_most_about_the_sls_program/

>>14786458
stop shitting the thread with twitter/r3ddit shit you absolute nigger

>>14786450
Rockets are dual purpose with everyone developing them for offensive uses first.
That should answer your question.

>>14786458

soo... manned landing fukken when??

>>14786465
It's not that easy in shitpostery.

>>14786458
>>14786465
obvious troll ya morans

>>14786458
we know it's you, go back

>>14786470
How? He serious. Thinks rockets shouldn't be privately owned.

>>14786474
are you cognitively impaired?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKwoBudYIiI

>>14786481
WE

>>14786481

>>14786477
no, are you?
If not this might help :
https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/grammar

>>14786426
i hope sneed/sneem has an abortion live from the moon

>>14786466
Artemis III launches in 2025. Or maybe 2026. Maybe.

>>14785831
you lose your sense of smell when in space
you'll regret being alive once you land back on earth though

>>14786444
Getting tired of this stupid spectacle circus. launch it or fuck off, Elon

>>14786474
I have a friend who thinks that SpaceX should be forced to be a publicly owned company, because of how big it is, that its using NASA tech, it's government funded, and that it has such a large impact on the public without any responsibility to the public (like starlinks effect on the sky). Also that it's going to cause a Kessler syndrome.
Yes there are people that delusional.
He also linked me a Playlist from Adam something on "leaving the alt-right"

>>14785874
it became politicized in america, so leftists still wear them to "own" the right

>>14786481
>comments turned off
Kek

>>14786508
>I have a friend who thinks that SpaceX should be forced to be a publicly owned company, because of how big it is, that its using NASA tech, it's government funded, and that it has such a large impact on the public without any responsibility to the public (like starlinks effect on the sky).
I mean, he didn't say anything wrong.

>>14786509
how come death rate of leftists is much less than rightists?
right owned themselves.

>>14786508
you should probably listen to the play list

>>14786508
So, the government (which does not give a single shit about the public) should use authoritarian power to force SpaceX to be beholden to a bunch of wall street venture capitalists (who also do not give a single shit about the public) because that will somehow be "good for the public."

I hate to have to break this to you but I think your friend is a fucking moron.

>>14786481
YOU ARE READY

>>14786525
Kek
>>14786520
You really think companies like Blackrock should have a say in what SpaceX does. Starship would have never left the drawing board

>>14786523
because conservatives are almost all old people

>>14786508
Your friend is a giant shit-dribbling commie retard who doesn't understand the difference between a "public company" (ownership trades on the stock market) and nationalization.

SLS is outdated and it hasn't even flown yet
how long will they cling to it?

>>14786566
at least two voting terms after Starship's inaugural flight

>>14786563
ACTUALLY "publicly owned" can refer to state ownership or publicly traded. It's ambiguous.

>>14783953
I assume you are an Artemis tourist, it's not unusual to do a hotter re-entery than the mission profile would have to test it.
I don't think the extra time is a big deal assuming the fuel cells can handle it.

>>14786566
If they fly it once or twice it's looks like a complete failure, if they fly it 12 times over 20 years suddenly it's easier to sell to the public as a vital piece of history.
They will do the later because it's a purely political project and actually getting results for the spending is secondary to the PR spin.

oh yeah, speaking of the SLS- how is it so weak? according to the NASA website it has 15% more thrust than the saturn v, and weighs around 16% less. however, it has a lower payload capacity to both LEO and TLI, and travels significantly more slowly, taking 5 days to get to the moon while saturn v only took 68 hours.
how is this possible? how does a rocket with more thrust, that weighs less, end up weaker than a rocket with less thrust that weighs more?

>>14786602
SLS only has 2 stages to Saturn V's 3.

>>14786602
By being "low cost" and ditching the 3rd stage that finished the orbital insertion and handles the TLI.
Combine that with the terrible dV of the Orion CSM and they really did everything wrong.

>>14786617
>>14786621
it already costs more per launch than saturn v when adjusted for inflation, i don't get the point of gimping it to try and cut cost at the last second
if you're gonna make an overly expensive rocket you'd might as well not have it be underpowered

>>14786602
Shittle SRBs have lower specific impulse than the F-1 and the SLS upper stage is a SINGLE RL10.

>Artemis 2 2024 probably 2025
What will starship be by then?
Can it get crew rated in 3 years, or will it be like falcon where it will still be going through design changes every few months or so

>>14786602
They fell for the Hydrogen meme

>>14783875
>>14783878
I love this emergent aesthetic.
It's like a mix between steampunk and cyberpunk. Even if it has elements of the latter, it doesn't feel futuristic/"sci-fi", which is the point that makes it so visually interesting, but it still does not feel completely like current day regular industrial facilities either.
>inb4 just go look at a railroad bridge
Come on, I don't really have the words to explain how I find it looks better/different, I just get the impression. For example, the rounded beams and painted appearance.

>>14786639
humans won't be leaving LEO this decade
anyone saying otherwise is coping hard

the first person to step foot on the moon on artemis 3 will almost certainly be a woman. i can only hope she doesn't say any extremely cringey thing like "one small step for a woman, one giant leap for womankind", or some other unbearable feminist platitude.
it would completely poison a moment that has nothing to do with the petty political concerns of the day. it'd be like if neil armstrong after stepping off the lander had said something like "america should leave vietnam!". like, that's all well and good... but shut the fuck up, landing on the moon is more important than your pet political cause

>>14786650
I just hope some other nft scam lands people on the moon before nasa.
Would cringe 100x

>>14786650
When I land on the moon I'll have only 3 words to say
Soli Deo Gloria
What will you say?

>>14786665
Time for some good ol' reconquista

>>14786650
"Ladies and Hentlemen. *AHEM*. Fuck Earthers, and fuck space jannies. That is all"

>>14786650
>Before he took his final step off the moon, Cernan said, "America's challenge of today has forged man's destiny of tomorrow. And, as we leave the moon at Taurus-Littrow, we leave as we came and, God willing, as we shall return, with peace and hope for all mankind."
If there isn't any reference to this Apollo 17 quote I'm going to be very disappointed

>>14786650
>"I, Neil Armstrong, claim this world on behalf of the American nation and the white race that made this journey possible. No darkies, now and forever."

I was honestly hoping that the Starship HLS program would outrun Artemis so badly that dearMoon 2 could land people first. Then the first person off the elevator could be some cringe social media influencer. Artemis III could land a few months later and spout some "we come in peace for all womankind" and no one would notice, care, or remember.

>>14786650
The first words have to be "We're back."

>>14786650
>China has had secret moon rocket
>Launches before artemis 3
>land first woman after their first man
Her first words are "The age of Men is over. The time of the Bug has come"

>>14786695
kino

>>14786695
>The time of the Bug has come"
first beetle on the moon when?