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So they want us to believe that vegans have higher testosterone levels than meat eaters, despite experiencing more anxiety and depression than meat eaters? How come google only shows studies published post 2020 now? And why are recent scientific studies always in alignment with current sociopolitical attitudes? Like now all of a sudden studies will say stuff like “anal sex has no consequences”, soon there will be a study saying obesity and heart disease aren’t correlated. Help an uneducated person understand this. Isn’t science supposed to be science?

>> No.14781190

>>14781182
Can’t even post the studies because 4chan thinks it’s spam.

>> No.14781192

>>14781182
What is even the point of these threads? Most people already agree with you that soience has gone off the rails, and the ones who disagree are so profoundly brainwashed they can't be reasoned with and they will go out of their way to show it.

>> No.14781200

>>14781190
It's the nature ones
Post the title and author

>> No.14781209

>>14781192
Because my gen z friends think I’m fucking crazy for having opinions that came from studied that were published before 2010, and nobody can even find those studies anymore and it’s causing psychosis and I feel like the world is caving in on me and desperately need to be told either A) I’ve always been wrong and need help understanding or B) there really is something going on in the science department

>> No.14781210

>>14781192
This. “Scientists” all get paid by somebody..

>> No.14781217

>>14781209
B obviously. “Trust the scientists!”
Always do the opposite of what you are told anon.

>> No.14781223

>>14781200
Do what normies do and Google it. “Do vegan diets decrease testosterone levels l? What comes up first? Either “Vegan diet increases testosterone by 13%” or “plant based diets have no effect on testosterone levels”.

>> No.14781224

>>14781209
>my gen z friends think I’m fucking crazy for having opinions that came from studied that were published before 2010
Find better friends? You probably don't wanna be associated with such people anyway when the boogaloo happens.

>> No.14781237

>>14781209
>Because my gen z friends think I’m fucking crazy for having opinions that came from studied that were published before 2010
what do you mean? The dates of studies don't matter at all.

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14781240

>>14781237
Based and science-pilled. Personally, I prefer to quote studies from the early 19th century.

>> No.14781245

>>14781240
I mean Early 20th century* but I guess 19th century works, too, since dates don't matter to white male science.

>> No.14781248

Obesity doesn’t increase risk of morality apparently

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/07/180712114440.htm

>> No.14781289

>>14781209
>nobody can even find those studies anymore
use other search enginers like brave, ddg, searx, etc.

>> No.14781338

>>14781248
>We found that a person of normal weight with no other metabolic risk factors is just as likely to die as the person with obesity and no other risk factors
>as the person with obesity and no other risk factors
Meanwhile,
>Researchers found that 1 out of 20 individuals with obesity had no other metabolic abnormalities.
...

>> No.14781355

>>14781182
It's easy, kiddo.

Ignore all the epidemiological studies.

Learn some biochemistry. (eg. phytates, how the brain needs DHA.)

Bonus: Learn some evolution theory regarding the homo sapiens and how hunter gatherers eat in times of abundance (hint: it's not vegan).

>> No.14781436

The science has changed and those pre-2020 studies are now invalid so there's no reason for you to see them.

>> No.14781445

>>14781210
Don't you?

>> No.14781455

>>14781445
Yes, I do. And on that note, let me tell you why all the studies show that my company's products are good for your health. :^)

>> No.14781631

>>14781182
>obesity and heart disease aren't correlated
But they literally aren't.

>> No.14781745

>>14781182
> vegans have higher testosterone levels than meat eaters
not hard to believe,
since being a fat fuck (most meat eaters in the US) leads to lower T levels

>> No.14781747

>>14781182
>So they want us to believe that vegans have higher testosterone levels than meat eaters
Literally no one claims that.

>> No.14781753

>>14781445
Are you saying there's no bias? That a company spends large amounts of money to possibly reveal they aren't ethical ect.? It's becoming pretty obvious people with all the money see common folk as livestock.

>> No.14781758

>>14781182
Why would you want high testosterone?
>hair loss
>bad skin
>hairy body
>makes you aggressive
>die earlier
I'm virtually vegan and I do not approve.

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14781878

>>14781745
>not hard to believe,
>since being a fat fuck (most meat eaters in the US) leads to lower T levels
Of course those meat eaters are on a plant based diet

Would love to see test levels of hong Kong though
https://www.carnivoreisvegan.com/hong-kong-long-life-eat-meat/

>> No.14782157

>>14781758
Because my otherwise healthy vegan friend has crippling depression and wondered if he was low T from a vegan diet for 8 years. Perhaps eating meat would regulate his hormones, there should be no reason why a 6ft2 chad is an anxious mess