/sci/ - Science & Math

>>14767137
FTS Archive
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KCJBL632oieD1r6JOh_5Eg9NTcf_-hH8?usp=sharing

aeiou

Spacewalk terminated

How hard does Souyz impact the ground?

The Nork Capsule hits Mars hard enough to kill one of the Norkonauts. Yet is still air tight and intact.

>>14767161
John Madden. John Madden.

>>14767041
NGL SLS is pretty aesthetic.

>>14767149
Something special came in the mail today; two letters and a bunch of stamps
This special letter was issued after Sputnik 2, and had its own stamp line too, which is in the bunch that came in today

>>14767201
And here's the second one, 5 years since the first satellite around Earth

>>14767185
based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovcTKHupdxo

>>14767213
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGMed45J48w

>>14767161
adiou

>they forgot to charge oleg's suit battery

>>14767257
Eric knows how to twist words to say something which was never said. He is a snake.

>>14767257
Or did it pull one of those moments when you check your phone in the morning and find it at 4% because the charger just decided to not work

>>14767264
the original tweet said that it was possible the battery hadn't been fully charged and berger said he found that hard to believe. stop being paranoid.

>>14767277
Or the batteries could just be old and fried. None of the EVA suits on the station are anything close to new.

>>14767297
you know what wrose than snake?
A snake supporter

Good. More incidents on the ISS, the faster it will be retired and the faster we get commercial stations.
We should celebrate this.
Else the tards will extend ISS till 2040

The Polish government is planning a manned space mission to the sun. When asked if they are afraid the mission will end in disaster, they responded, “no, we are not worried, we are going at night “.

If Elon Musk's space company establishes a Mars colony, and you have a girlfriend on mars, but later break up because of long distance, she'd be your....
Space x.

In space, two aliens are talking to each other.
The first alien says, "The dominant life forms on the Earth planet have developed satellite-based nuclear weapons."

The second alien asks, "Are they an emerging intelligence?"

The first alien says, "I don't think so, they have aimed at themselves"

>>14767313
>>14767319
>>14767327

Nasa was experimenting with different animals in space.
Monkeys were an obvious choice, but they had no patience. Mice chewed all the cables, dogs were too stupid and chickens were always scared. It seemed the only animal that could cope with the intense stress of space travel was a chilled out alley cat.

After a few months of testing and training, he was ready for his first mission. The cat was to embark on a journey to Saturn's moon, Titan, to discover if life would be sustainable...

The rocket prepares for take off.

5...

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4...

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3...

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2...

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1...

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BLAST OFF!!

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UP

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UP

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Up

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up

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up

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up

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up

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...and POW the cat bursts through Earth's atmosphere and begins his journey as the first feline in outer space.

A few weeks go by, and after a while the cat starts to get bored. He spots a red planet nearby, and although he tries to resist the temptation, he sets the shuttle on a new course. Before Houston could stop him, he lands on Mars.

Houston sends a probe to investigate what the h*** the cat was up to and why he decided to venture so far off course.

The probe gets to Mars and finds tracks, which lead it to an area of wreckage and signs of a fight.

The cat is dead, flat as a pancake on the ground and a robot, once sent to explore Mars, had cat remains trodden into its tracks.

It was clear... Curiosity killed the cat.

those are some real knee slappers right there

Astronaut 1: hey I can't find any milk for my coffee

Astronaut 2: In space, no one can. Here, use cream.

What kind of new autism is this?

Q: What does NASA stand for?
A: Need Another Seven Astronauts

Stop or I will report you

>>14767354
why would you? i think his jokes are out of this world

Vladimir Putin has boasted that Russia is planning to build a base on the moon. The idea is that astronauts will live there permanently. When they were asked if they really wanted to spend the rest of their lives in a barren, lifeless, empty landscape, the Russians said...
"No. That's why we want to go to the moon."

God damn how many of these does he have?

What do you call a black man in a space suit?
An astronaut, you f***ing racist

>>14767370
how do you organize an all-out good1 assault on /sfg/? you planet!

>>14767375

>>14767332
man what a long buildup, feels like I'm reading some shitty webcomic

>>14767353
what does the SLS stand for?

Did you hear about the new restaurant in space?
The food was pretty good but it felt like there was no atmosphere.

Why did NASA delay Psyche indefinitely?
They have no comet-ment!

First for Starship Station

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iwQERHgqco&t=373s

Why did OSIRIS-REx leave Bennu so fast?
It didn't want to run up the parking meteor!

It’s 1961. A Nasa scientist and a soviet scientist have a meeting..
…Nasa scientist:“Well now that we are alone we can speak german to each other.

>>14767402
lol

Why arent you excited?

Why haven't Aliens visited our Solar System yet?
They looked at the reviews... Only 1 star.

>stage thread
>at T+ 00:35:48 thread takes massive nosedive
We must figure out this anomaly

>>14767419
A technician installed an inertial guidance sensor upside down, as a joke

How do you know aliens are not vegan?

Because they haven't contacted us to say it.

>>14767409
we can't let nasa manipulate an innocent young vtuber like clear-chan into liking sls. we have to save her.

Since this thread is already so haha funny might as well share some progress on this project I’ve been working on. What’s your opinion on having a little joke on these cards or is it too distracting from the game?

When the US went to the moon....

...they planted the American Flag. After all these years the radiation from the Sun will have bleached it completely white, so now if Aliens find it they are going to think the French were there first.

If I only had one asteroid to drop on this joker's house or the FAA Headquarters, well, I'd have to really, really think about it.

Russian cosmonaut on American vehicle

>>14767456
What do you call a Russian cosmonaut on an American vehicle?
Cosmo not!

>>14767439
i'd have to know how good the game is to know if i want to be distracted from it by some spacex simping. but the new dicaprio line is a good1.

>>14767430
>innocent
>young
>her
How did you get everything wrong in a single sentence?

https://nitter.kavin.rocks/SciGuySpace/status/1559655578754060298

ESA possibly plans on leveraging Starship in the future

>>14767468
i'm impressed that they managed to come up with an energy plan less cost-effective than shutting down operational nuclear plants because of a tsunami in japan.

>>14767468
>UK firm Frazer-Nash
Man just build more nuclear power plants, stop with this space-based solar bullshit

>>14767476
The EUSSR is intentionally trying to degrade its standard of living so they can implement Communism and seize sovereignty from member states.

Knock knock
Who's there
Gus Grissom
Why you knock
It's hot in here

/Artemis/ General now on /pol/
>>>/pol/391487430

Q) Where did Christa McAuliffe spend her vacation?

A) All over Florida.

>>14767439
Depends on what kind of game it is, but probably distracting

>>14767302
the serpent in Genesis didn't lie

>>14767468
casey handmer tore it apart
basically they make a bunch of ridiculous assumptions and even with that, its entirely dependent on goverment subsidizing it
nothing in there that makes space based solar seem more plausible as a way to generate power for earth

>>14767468
You know what would be great? If China's SBSP demo mission actually works and everyone realizes it isn't science fiction anymore

>>14767402
that's actually pretty fucking funny

>>14767506
the question has never been about it "working", its if its cost effective compared to the alternatives like simple solar on earth

>>14767509
S T O R A G E

>>14767353
kek

>>14767467
have you listened to her singing voice? she is total pure

>>14767409
Who says I'm not? I've been waiting 20ish years and severla billion dollars to see it blow up.

>>14767468
>space based solar
as if they couldnt get any more retarded

>>14767516
yes you can add that to the cost of solar, still probably many orders of magnitude more expensive even with the most optimistic assumptions
some ultrathin film solar panels could change this somewhere in the future perhaps but that is completely speculative at this point

If William Shatner really wanted to go “where no man had gone before”, He should have just used the associates bathroom At the Amazon distribution center.

the first girl on the moon should be hot

REPORT
Canada just announced that they are launching their first manned moon next decade.
They are calling it the Apollo-G.

>>14767578
NASA decides to send up an all-female crew for their next Artemis mission...
"Houston, we have a problem."

"What's the problem?"

"Nothing. Nevermind."

"Repeat, what is the nature of the problem?"

"It's fine, whatever."

>>14767504
>>14767545
he's a dumb faggot & so are you

>>14767592
>the solar nigger lashes out in confusion
dont be jealous of others' intelligence, anon. it's not attractive

>>14767599
The mona lisa smile

>>14767587
kek

>>14767599
she looks like a british politician, and i mean that in the harshest way possible

>>14767587
i've seen this joke a million times going all the way back to the shuttle era

>>14767599
solarfag loves casey handjob you shitbird

>>14767487
I'm proud of you.

>What was the first animal into space? The cow that jumped over the moon...
>Einstein developed a theory about space, and about time too!
>What did the astronaut look for after parking his spaceship in orbit? A parking meteor!
>What is E.T. short for? Because he has small legs...
>Well what do they say about the space restaurant? I hear their food is out of this world!
>I love the way the Earth rotates, it really makes my day.
>Why didn't The Sun go to college? Because it already had a million degrees!
>Why don’t aliens eat clowns? Because they taste funny.
>Why is Saturn so rich? Because it has lots of rings!
>What dance do all astronauts know? The moonwalk.
>How do you throw a party in space? You have to plan-et.
>How do you know when the moon is going broke? When it's down to its last quarter.
>If an athlete gets athlete's foot, do astronauts get missiletoe?
>Why don’t astronauts keep their jobs for very long? Because as soon as they start they get fired!
>What does an astronaut do when he gets angry? He blasts off!
>Why are astronauts successful people? Because they always go up in the world!
>Why did The Sun go to school? To get brighter!
>If you were in space no one can hear you scream. That’s understandable as you’d be hundreds of miles away...
>What’s a light-year? The same as a regular year, but with fewer calories...
>What is an astronauts favourite chocolate? A Mars bar of course!
>What did the astronaut say when he crashed into the moon? I Apollo-gize.
>I want to be an astronaut when I grow up. You could say I have high hopes...
>What is an astronaut's favourite place on a computer? The space bar...
>Why didn’t the Dog Star laugh at the joke? It was too Sirius...
>Why did the star get arrested? Because it was a shooting star!
>What did Mars say to Saturn? Give me a ring sometime!
>What do moon people do when they get married? They go off on their honeyearth!
>I was up all night wondering where The Sun had gone, then it dawned on me...
XD

>>14767623
For the record, this is not me.
Even I found this too cringe

>>14767487
Oh boy can't wait to get more retards in this general who just want to suck off trump and cry about biden. Did we learn nothing from last time?

>>14767509
How do you get the solar power from space? It's not legit to say Lazer beam back the amount of energy to power cities, back to earth safely and securely

>>14767516
Why is storage such a problem

"We have much much too much energy" should never be a problem or a bad thing.

If socialism existed it wouldnt be a problem, the problem is only we have an extremely abundant extremely in demand resource, but we can't store enough of it to highly profit enough

>>14767643
It pretty much has to be a laser because clouds absorb microwaves (which is why your microwave heats food).

>>14767652
not all microwave frequencies are adsorbed by water dumbass

>>14767468
Ok but how does this solve the intermittent problem? This doesn't work at night right?.

>>14767652
my food is made of clouds!?

I'm really enjoying the positive vibes in this thread guys. heartfelt chuckles were had. Here's another to toss on the fire

Why did SpaceX go to Mars?
>Becuase SpaceY already went to Uranus!

>>14767659
Maybe we could add batteries to the satellites and use that power to beam down at night?
That would solve the problem imo

>>14767661
Food contains dihydrogen mono oxide which has the same resonance frequency

>>14767652
What have experiments been like beaming energy from lasers to recievers?

And this avoids the storage problem, by when you need a lot of energy all the sudden to turn the satelite solar laser beamers on to beam energy down?

>>14767680
iirc they've proven it at kilowatts over kilometers so it's not a huge qualitative change to do megawatts from orbit

>>14767628
They were actually pretty good, kys

do all of the retards hoping for SLS to explode realize how far back that would set spaceflight as a whole? morons

>14767716

>>14767468
>500 average launches/year

>>14767725
when nasa was selling the general public on the space shuttle they promised 1000 launches by the end of the 1980s. they reuse the same lies over and over again because they are too low iq to create OC.

https://nspires.nasaprs.com/external/viewrepositorydocument/cmdocumentid=893907/solicitationId=%7B3EB0D5BE-0468-3426-A3CA-29585EE5BA38%7D/viewSolicitationDocument=1/Reformatted%20Nuclear%20RFI_NRESS%2008-16-22.pdf

NASA is doing a nuclear power survey, but they aren't asking the DOE... how very curious

>>14767516
make hydrocarbons as storage. it's so easy

SBSP is orders of magnitude worse than putting panels on the ground

>>14767137
>Make a giant inflatable mylar ball
>launch it into space and bounce radio off it
This shit is the coolest looking satellite ever sent into orbit, weird nobody ever talks about them.

>>14767439
I feel like they should be semi-believable trivia and made up factoids, not your personal feelings and personal stories (don't start with "I...")
read KSP part descriptions for inspiration

something like these:
>Originally envisioned as part of a joint venture with Roscosmos. The "Project Atom" ultimately went nowhere when UPS failed to deliver Russia's Proton rockets to New Zealand in one piece.
>Falcon 9 landing legs were constructed out of balsa wood to provide buoyancy, should it miss the drone ship.
>Jeff Bezos, a well-known swing-jazz enthusiast named the rocket after his idol, Glenn Miller. Rumours say the next rocket will be named after Luis Armstrong.
>Until its inaugural flight, the spacecraft was dismissed as "obviously just a water tower" by spaceflight expert community at large.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1559691922725281800
>Also, I’m buying Manchester United ur welcome
why can't he just buy blue origin?

>>14767828
I'm a proponent of inflatable sunshields for space telescopes. You could also use inflatable balloons to make things deorbit much faster, for example the service module

>>14767137
So what happens now that Lambda-CDM and QI are bust?
What could the next answer be?

>>14767885
fear not

wasn't a booster static supposed to happen today

>>14767911
2 weeks

>>14767911
They haven't rolled out. The engines and booster are obviously still too complicated.
They might also be waiting for modifications to the OLM to reach a certain point.

>>14767885
>and QI
That paper "deboonking" QI was pre-JWST and assumed a big bang. The new data changes everything.

>>14767885
>So what happens now that Lambda-CDM and QI are bust?
astroanon is going to clown on you for saying that

>>14767930
>QI gives you efficient STL starships but not FTL ones
I'd rather Heim theory was winning

>>14767950
QI leaves open the possibility of FTL jump gates that delete space in front of a ship. Ironically, you'd need a reaction drive to move across a horizon inside one rather than more QI thrusters, so chemical rockets would be used for FTL.

>>14767957
Aren't those way way more difficult than something like a warp drive?

>>14767716
Oh no, we couldn't have a couple moon factoid generators deployed this year. We might even have to wait until 2024! What an irreplaceable loss! The horror!

>>14767968
It depends on which is physically possible which depends in turn upon which theory is right. Warp drives are completely nonphysical if QI is right because it means space doesn't bend. If space does bend then obviously warpdrives are the way to go.

>>14767974
In the scenario where QI is right how difficult is it to build a jump drive compared to a scenario where space is bent and how difficult it is to build a warp drive in that one?

>>14767640
gonna cry?

>>14767980
If QI is right then building a jump gate is in principle just a matter of finding the right QI device geometry to apply the information-deletion effect to remove space in front of a ship instead of applying thrust. It may not require exotic physics beyond QI, or even superconductors. Warp drives by contrast involve lots of handwaving about absolute negative energy density and there are questions about whether or not this would induce false vacuum decay if it did work.

>>14767992
Fuck, I don't want to hope for QI. But it seems like there aren't any downsides to it.

>>14767992
>apply the information-deletion effect to remove space in front of a ship
this sounds like a terrifying superweapon

QI was already debunked irrespective of the big bang/relativity/dark matter/etc.

>>14768001
It's entirely frame dependent though. Someone sitting on the destination planet would observe no change. The more worrying thing is that information deletion is often expressed as *heat* in computers.

>>14768005
Did you actually read the paper? He never tested QI-as-such, he tested a bunch of other MOND-ish models and then said it was inconclusive.

>>14768012
QI was debunked by dwarf galaxies.

>>14768014
No it wasn't.

>>14768015
Dwarf galaxies that spin like we'd expect them to without dark matter are easily explained by lack of dark matter. QI has to do all sorts of gymnastics to compensate for them.

>>14768005
>>14768012
>>14768014
>>14768015
When it comes to galactic dynamics QI is really just MOND without the external field effect. There are many results which rule such models out.
https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2019MNRAS.488.4740P/abstract

>>14767885
LCDM is doing fine. QI is still not a real cosmology, since predictions can only be derived by asking the author and seeing what he thinks.
>>14767930
What paper? Most tests of gravity have nothing to do with JWST.

>>14768026
I've read that paper. It's a massive case of cherry picking. The data set excludes anything that doesn't behave like a wide binary according to the standard model and then claims it proves the standard model in regards to wide binaries.

>>14768034
>LCDM is doing fine.
Where's the anon who always posts the copium pics? This is the one time he's needed.

>>14768034
>LCDM is doing fine.
[laughs in JWST dataset]

>>14768035
They select binaries by a cut in projected separation and radial velocity, with some further quality cuts. How is that assuming a standard model?
Secondly their model comparison simulates the same selection, so it's a completely irrelevant point. All that matters is that it's consistent.

>>14768046
>They select binaries by a cut in projected separation and radial velocity, with some further quality cuts. How is that assuming a standard model?
The cut excludes binaries that don't fit the expected parameters. It should have been run on the complete data set.

>>14768037
>>14768039
JWST has not ruled out LCDM. Cosmologies don't get overturned by unconfirmed high redshift candidates. Not to mention the fact that these objects test LCDM+galaxy formation, not purely the former.

>>14768055
Pushing back the date of the beginning by necessity breaks LCDM.

>>14768055
>Based on the published literature, right now the Big Bang makes 16 wrong predictions and only one right one—the abundance of deuterium, an isotope of hydrogen.
>"JWST has not ruled out LCDM."

>>14768051
If they ran it on every star in Gaia you would learn nothing, because pairs would just be random projections and not actual binaries. It would tell you nothing about gravity.

>>14768058
Don't quote Lerner if you're trying to make a serious argument. His arguments are total crap. It's entirely based on unconfirmed candidate galaxies, which he takes as fact. And when there is a logical gap between the data and his preconceived solution he just fills it in with his own assumptions. That's why he's making these claims on a random blog and not in a paper.

>>14768057
No it doesn't. LCDM doesn't even predict the "first galaxies", it needs to be combined with a model of galaxy formation. There dozens of those and none of them are a complete description.

>Whenever you tried to attack Lambda cold dark matter, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. Gradually I began to hate it.

>>14768026
>without the external field effect
what does this mean if I may ask?

>>14768156
extra scalar and vector fields that have to be added to the "normal" tensor fields that are in general relativity, apparently this makes it even more complicated

https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/605621/how-is-the-external-field-effect-in-mond-conceptually-distinct-from-newtonian-gr

>>14768156
In MOND a System leaves the Newtonian regime and feels the modification when the acceleration is below a0. You can have situations where a system is below a0, but there is some external field (e.g. the Galaxy) where the local acceleration is above a0. In these cases the external field keeps the system Newtonian.

http://astroweb.case.edu/ssm/mond/EFE.html

It is needed to explain several observations, including experiments on Earth and galaxies lacking a dark matter effect. The fact that QI doesn’t have an EFE means it conflicts with lots of things.

Is this thing actually going to lift off on Monday?

>>14768322
Briefly.

>>14768322
IT GAAN

>kodiak drift was less than a year ago
wtf

I heard NASA earned their 2023 budget of $25,000,000,000.05 by sucking the dicks of congressmen.

>>14768322
>monday august 22nd
Off-nominal

It's launch day for SLS. The sparkers ignite the RS-25 engines and the huge orange rocket lumbers off the pad. Thirty-five seconds into flight an anomaly occurs, resulting in total destruction of the vehicle. The excitation of the launch dissipates as everyone stares at the fireball hanging in the sky that constitutes the loss of billions of dollars.
What does NASA do next? What's the government's response? Would they even be able to cobble another SLS together for a 2nd attempt?

>>14768369
Yes they'll keep going, free money for their pockets.

ass eating shuttles

>>14768369
>What's the government's response?
Immediate statement from the FAA, which after careful examination, now requires a full environmental impact statement. Also, the NTSB steps in, dictating new safety rules and major modifications of the launch pad and ground equipment. Human spaceflight, whether carried by private entities or not, will be heavily regulated from now on. Moreover, the entire Starbase facility will be subjected to daily drug testing for its entire personnel.

>>14768369
>The sparkers ignite the RS-25 engines

>>14768406
Yeah, that would probably result in something bad.

They could have saved so much fucking work on the OLT if they had made Raptor boostrap.

>>14767439
I'd argue neutron if it works is a higher tier reusable launch vehicle than F9, as neutron uses methane and should be cheaper overall. The only issue is that by the time neutron is ready, starship will be fully operational.

>>14767509
It's not about it being "cost effective", it's a ridiculously OP weapon not explicitly banned by existing treaties, that doubles as energy production or an excellent method of high speed propulsion. Maybe ESA has some illusion about it saving the planet, the Chinese do not.

>>14768426
Neutron is going to destroy the "not SpaceX" market for everyone else unless the Terran R gets full reusability working.

>>14768431
cringe.

They're printing significant parts of Aeon R with the laser noodle welder.

>>14768406
/sfg/ moment

Went out with a pair of binoculars this night. Mars and Jupiter are clearly visible, with Uranus and Neptune in this image as well.
Uranus is between Mars and the Moon, Neptune is to the right of Jupiter, which I couldn't find due to how dim it is. I might have seen Uranus but it's likely it was just a star, Uranus being outshined by the Moon's brightness.

Also drew a crude picture of what Jupiter looked like. Not too sure if I saw Io or just the brightness of Jupiter caused a bloom.
Also saw Mars' moon Phobos

>>14767409
Pedophile

>>14768357
Which one gave them the $23 billion?

>>14768461
Tried to get atleast some kind of image of Jupiter and its moons, this crusty-ass gif is all I could salvage. I might need a real telescope to get anything better than this.

All other moons are too faint to see with an iPhone camera, they're faint for human eyes too. Interestingly the only moon you can see is Europa, which is completely covered in ice and so reflects most of the light hitting it.

>>14768425
Would've added useless mass to the booster

>>14768461
>>14768473
wow this is so cool. i haven't ever bothered to look at the sky with binoculars.

>>14767659
They would work at night though; you just spread them out evenly in orbit so that power output remains roughly constant during a 24 hour day.

>>14768476
You should try it sometime, things are surprisingly visible even with shitty gear
I used a 10x50 5° FOV bird watching binos, with even a low end 100$ telescope you'll probably get much better results

>>14768461
Get camera

>>14767992
>>14767957
Once you move across that horizon you're going to find that you've gone much, much further then just to another star...

>>14768484
I think I do have my dad's old camera that he doesn't use somewhere in their house.
Imaging anything smaller will require said telescope and a camera mount to it.
Is an older DLSR good enough to image something like a large nebula or maybe a comet?

>>14767456
Gotta be frustrating for them

>>14768492
That pic is from my Nikon D3400 with a 300mm Tamron lens, of the NEOWISE comet. Here's Jupiter and I think Saturn. You can always mount to a telescope as you said.

>>14768463
cant say you wouldnt fuck her too ;)

>>14767402
kek

>>14768404
>Immediate statement from the FAA
>"We need a careful re-examination of all heavy lift rockets, not just SLS."

>>14768322
It'll be a miracle if it doesn't explode mid flight.

>>14768645
it's true. think of it like boeing's first rocket. you expect astra and firefly and even spacex to fail on theur first launch. SLS is no different. it's a miracle STS-1 didnt fucking explode, and after decades of oldspace stagnation it would be 100x more miraculous if SLS succeeds. another funny thing is Artemis 2 requires an entirely new rocket with no heritage engines/boosters. so it's like starting from zero

Working on a project to estimate stable/periodic orbits around irregular space objects, its a complete cluster fuck to figure this out without brute force and orbit propagators. Thinking of going down the path of non-linear dynamics, using attractor basins or something.

>>14767579
: >

>next closer Monday

Looks like they are having problems with booster 7. Its over glaze lads.

>>14767508
Star ship really needs to be enjoyed from a distance. Some of the steel and tiles look terrible

SpaceXbros....

>>14768842
>Elon: pls no Biden-coon let me launch I promise it's ready this time for sure

>>14768482
It's astonishingly difficult to get a telescope these days

A ton of people out here took up stargazing during the plague years

>>14768747
Cursed Matlab code

Imagine how expired those SRBs are by now...

>>14768369
>The sparkers ignite the RS-25 engines
Retard.

>>14768939
>yfw the o-rings fail at exactly T+72

>>14768965
I want it to nuke the billion dollar tower instead

looks like booster 7 is waiting for the OLM not the other way around. the fix they did for the explosion was only a temporary hack that has been removed and is now being done proper.

>>14768970
Tower is being scrapped after this launch anyway.

>>14768974
EXPENDABLE LAUNCH TOWERS

>>14768939
They make ICBMs out of these, and those sit in silos for decades

>>14769001
The ICBMs don't have O-rings.

>>14769001
silos are underground with perfectly stable temperature
I'd imagine a big shed in Florida has a less optimal microclimate

>>14769040
the VAB is perfectly climate controlled of course

Depict in 4D:
The Sun forcing The Gravity Field to force The Planets to orbit The Sun

>>14768974
>ML1
>Scrapped

It's being modified after Artemis III because it's too puny for SLS Block 1B / 2. And it's going to take three years. They're banking everything on ML-2 being completed on time.

>>14768461
>saw Mars' moon Phobos
not with binocs you didnt

>>14768461
Bruh phobos is an asteroid

>>14769125
not anymore

Starship to launch SKY Perfect JSAT in 2024

https://www.skyperfectjsat.space/en/news/detail/sky_perfect_jsat_signed_launch_service_contract_for_superbird-9_satellite_with_spacex.html

>>14769140
very strange how few have signed contracts on starship considering how far in advance niggers book these flights

>>14769147
has the starship payload deployment method been finalized?
i imagine people would want to know for sure how payloads are gonna be put in and deployed in a novel system like starship before they commit

>>14769102
Could we move phobos into geosyncronous orbit with mars and then build a SPACE BRIDGE???

>>14769204
you could probably think up a momentum transfer scheme with Deimos that would move Phobos into synchronous orbit, yeah. it would take a while though

lol

>>14769195
Simply hope for the best

>>14769250
Poe's Law

>>14769258
it must be satire . i hope

/sfg/ is dead, SLS killed it

Space turtles.

space beetles

AN EARTHER

HES AN EARTHER

>>14769362
Lmao

SpaceX is launching the Superbird-9 satellite in Starship in 2024. This is Starship’s first commercial contract.
>Superbird-9 will be launched by SpaceX’s Starship launch vehicle in 2024 to geosynchronous transfer orbit. SpaceX’s Starship is a fully reusable transportation system that will be the world’s most powerful launch vehicle.
Realistically, we can estimate a higher end of launch costs at $100 million or so. This bodes well for the vehicle.

https://www.skyperfectjsat.space/en/news/detail/sky_perfect_jsat_signed_launch_service_contract_for_superbird-9_satellite_with_spacex.html

>>14769505
>launching […] Starship in 2024
no they're not lmao

>>14769545
that's a 2-ish years window
it's doable

>>14769545
Starship is probably flying before the end of the year. And there’s a good chance it flies 5-10 times in 2022. They have approval for 24 launches from the Cape.

>>14769545
>>14769565
Maybe I'm crazy, but launching Starship + Superheavy seems not really all that hard. Assuming the Raptors work, it's a huge but fairly conservative design. Now, AFTER it delivers a payload to orbit, I fully expect Starship to tumble into the ground as Superheavy tokyo-drifts into the launch tower, but I feel like launching a payload isn't too far away. At least, as long as there is no unforseen catastrophic design flaw.

>>14769565
two weeks is still two weeks away in two years

>>14769584
Raptor has perfect reliability on ascent (although SN11 and SN15 had some engine issues going up). At the very least, I’m not too worried about Raptor reliability.

>>14769585
>(you)

>>14769102
>>14769125
Phobos can be seen as an extremely faint dot next to Mars, since Mars is close to Earth and Phobos is much larger than you think
I didn't say that I saw it clearly, it was visible only in the unlit part of the park, everywhere else the streetlamps drowned it out

Which one of you posted this?

>>14769650
Go back.

>>14769617
Aight. You win

>>14769650
I'm all for keeping /pol/aks out of /sfg/, if they think they have the only one they should also attack most newfags keeping them out of here.

>>14769661
whole site is /pol/ and always has been, r*dditor.

>>14769686
fuck off, election tourist

>>14769692
Been here since '09, loser.

>>14769686
>always has been
Post 2015 newfag.

>>14769686
this is what poltards really believe. gtfo newfag

>>14769694
Then you know you are lying.

>>14769697
Eh, I might be remembering wrong - but I'm not lying.

>>14769695
>>14769696
return to discord

>>14769677
Heil hitler you fucking loser

>>14769677
Atlas’ naming scheme is so fucking weird. Different Atlas first stages were swapped around with different upper stages, which had their own different variants. “Atlas Centaur” could use an Atlas E first stage, and a Centaur D or A second stage. Sometimes an Atlas Agena would have a centaur fairing like pic related which meant it used the fatter Atlas core on Centaur launches. Etc. I don’t think anyone ever made a good way to track the dozens of one-off strange vintage Atlas variants.
The final Atlas Agena launch used an Atlas E/F core with an Agena D.

>>14769686
The absolute fucking state

>>14769704
I like national socialism but I fucking hate /pol/.

>>14769709
/pol/ falls from contrarian syndrome. They have no beliefs except the opposite of what the mainstream is

>>14769718
Okay, come on, now. This is a reddit comment.

>>14769722
It’s true and you know it

>>14767401

>>14769650
this was a purely organic post ;)

>>14769617
you didn't see it with your 10x50s anon, Asaph Hall had to use picrel to discover it in the dark skies of 1877

Opinion on Delta III?

at what point did you realize the greatest threat to humanist is ants?
if they decided to attack us tomorrow we would be screwed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqECNYmM23A

>>14767401
>could be used as part of a permanent fuel depo
REFUELLING STATIOOOOOOOOON

>>14769147
Has starship made it to orbit yet?

>>14768369
do your homework anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgT9-oMXgCU

>>14769737
>at what point did you realize the greatest threat to humanist is ants?
When I watched Phase IV

>>14769737
They had billions of years to come up with iq. they're losers

Has anyone found the 4d depiction?

In all the years and press since GRs discovery, no students or researchers anywhere in the world made a 4d model of how gravity works? Of how the Sun makes the Planets orbit it by interacting with the gravity field?

All the animations and video games and simulations and student papers;
And depicting how the Sun interacts with the Gravity field to make the Planets orbit it, was not thought important or interesting enough?

>>14769750
According to this, the engines start by sparkler.

>>14769758
sparkler is to burn off excess hydrogen flowing through the engines so it doesn't accumulate on the pad, not to start main combustion in the combustion chamber

>>14769762
So they light the fuel coming out of the engine, but not the fuel coming out of the engine that makes it fly.
I abjectly refuse homework, this explanation is good enough for me and changes nothing about the initial post asking about SLS failure plans.

>>14769744
No but it has more flown hardware than Terran R, Neutron, and New Glenn. All of them now have commercial contracts

>>14769729
In that case it is possible it might have been a star right next to it, hard to tell

>>14769735
looks like something you build in KSP before upgrading VAB and bigger tanks
very cursed aesthetics
plus its record makes Rocket 3.3 look reliable in comparison

>>14769001
ICBMs are a lot shorter, which means there's much less weight pushing down on the bottom grain sections, which means less if any propellant sag. Also, since ICBMs are single-segment, there's much less associated risk from grain sag as there's no inter-sectional seals necessary to prevent the hot gasses from escaping the middle section of the grain and causing asymmetric burn (as well as potential burn-through of the casing).

>>14769584
Literally every hard part in Starship design and operations is associated with recovery, not launch. Launch is routine and SpaceX has a more experienced labor force than any other agency, due to having such high launch frequency over the last decade.

>>14767402
Is funny because is true

>>14769998
>xkcd
holy shit, kill yourself

>>14770009
>implying that one isn't funny
You are probably the kind of person that claims to hate reddit but doesn't understand the ideological reason it's disliked by oldfags.

>>14770022
no, that one isn't funny, just like 100% of xkcd comics i've ever seen

>>14767149
koreans vape in space?
bussin

>>14769964
So how do icbms adjust the burn time being solid? Do they have internal fire extinguishers, or do they blow the exhaust sideways?

>>14770055
I know some vent gas forward to cancel out what's still coming out the back.

>>14770055
You can't extinguish an SRB in any way, so to limit the burn time they must have some method of effectively cutting off the thrust of the motor while the propellant still burns. This could be accomplished by using burst vents to greatly reduce the chamber pressure and therefore thrust output. Alternatively, the missiles could be steered to targets closer than their maximum range by adjusting their trajectory and burn angle, instead of burn time. A missile that burns for 2 minutes in a perfect gravity turn will go much farther than a missile that keeps its nose up for two minutes, though the latter missile will go higher. Basically, targeting is accomplished through math instead of throttle.

>>14770055
Reminded me of these energy shedding maneuvers. Something that ICBMs don't do. At least not so spectacularly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awlHjed5FI8

>>14769998
This is arguably true up to explorer 1, but saying the Saturn V was built entirely by nazis is hilariously misinformed.

>>14770112
>hilariously misinformed
it's a joke you absolute autist
holy shit

Starship will never be human-rated unless Musk develops a winged shuttle variant that can land on runways.

>>14770150
easier to put a pod with parachutes into the cargo hold

>>14769744
Falcon 1 had 10 contracts before flight 1

>>14770150
He should just suck it up and go with an F-111 style ejected cockpit.

>>14770150
>implying that's safer

>>14770150
takeoff doesn't need to be human rated

THE EARTH IS ROUGHLY A SPHERE.

IMAGINE LARGER AND LARGER CONCENTRIC SPHERES.

IMAGINE A SPHERE TWICE AS LARGE AS EARTH. 4 TIMES, 8 TIMES, 10 TIMES.

IMAGINE A SPHERE SHARING THE CENTER OF EARTH 10 TIMES AS BIG AS EARTH.

THE EARTHS ATMOSPHERE AND MAGNETOSPHERE AND OTHER OSPHERES ENDS,

AND THIS INVISIBLE 10X SPHERE KEEPS GOING;

AND IT IS IN THIS SPHERE WHERE EARTHLY ORBITS OCCUR.

WHAT PERCENT, IN THE PORTION THAT CONTAINS NO PART OF EARTH IN THE 10X SPHERE, IS GRAVITY FIELD/GRAVITONS/GRAVITY SUBSTANCE, AND WHAT PERCENT IS PURE ABSOLUTE NOTHING?


TO BE MORE CLEAR;
WHAT PERCENT OF THE ISS'S BODY IS BEING TOUCHED BY GRAVITY FIELD/GRAVITONS, WHAT PERCENT OF THE ISS'S BODY IS BEING TOUCHED BY EM FIELD, WHAT PERCENT OF THE ISS'S BODY IS BEING TOUCHED BY ABSOLUTE PURE NOTHING?

>>14770167
>>14770169

NASA's decadal survey response going on now
Where we at bros

>>14770213
Have a link? I'll watch / read it. Really hope we get some ambitious outer planets stuff.

>>14770217
It's a webex call
https://science.nasa.gov/researchers/virtual-townhall

>>14770201
Depict in 4D:
The Sun forcing The Gravity Field to force The Planets to orbit The Sun


So The Sun forces The Gravity Field to force The Earth to follow The Sun:

Depict that in 4D, it should take an above average Theoretical Physicist who specializes in Fundamental Gravity, and an above average Computer Animation Simulationist, working well together 7 to 8 hours max to depict how The Sun Forces The Gravity Field to Force The Planets to orbit The Sun

From this you can apply particle dynamics to find candidates of variables that produce observations
In all the years and press since GRs discovery, no students or researchers anywhere in the world made a 4d model of how gravity works? Of how the Sun makes the Planets orbit it by interacting with the gravity field?

All the animations and video games and simulations and student papers;
And depicting how the Sun interacts with the Gravity field to make the Planets orbit it, was not thought important or interesting enough?


MAKE A 4D MODEL DEPICTING HOW THE SUNS CONSTANT VELOCITY AND ROTATION INTERACTS WITH THE GRAVITY FIELD IN SUCH A WAY THAT THE PLANETS FOLLOW THE SUN

https://www.sierraspace.com/newsroom/press-releases/sierra-space-completes-successful-nasa-test-readiness-review-for-lunar-oxygen-extraction-system/

DOES THE ISS HAVE PARTICLE DETECTORS ON ITS OUTSIDE? DOES FLOATING ASTRONAUT HOLD PARTICLE DETECTORS?

THEY DETECT PARTICLE, PARTICLE, NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING, PARTICLE...

DOES THAT MEAN REALLY NOTHING EXISTS?
OR ARE ALL POSSIBLE CURRENT OR FOREVER PARTICLE, SOMETHING, DETECTORS SEVERLY LACKING?

LIKE CAVEMEN FLOATING DOWN A RIVER TRYING TO DETECT H20 MOLECULES.

SPACE IS AN OCEAN, MADE DIRECTIONAL RIVERS AND WHIRPOOLS BY MASSES TRAVELS AND ROTATIONS.

FLOATING ASTRONAUTS HAVE THEIR BODIES CARRIED BY GRAVITY FIELD GRAVITONS RIVER, PURE NOTHING, OR SOME MIXTURE OF BOTH.

SPACE IS LIKELY FULL OF SUBSTANCE WE CAN'T DETECT, OR ELSE GRAVITY AND LIGHT AND MAGNETISM WOULD NOT FUNCTION.

ITS JUST A MATTER OF WHAT PERCENTAGE IS FULL OF NOTHING AND UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS.

>One of the first heat-stable explosives was hexanitrostilbene, or HNS. On May 5, 1964, Kathryn G. Shipp of the Naval Ordnance Laboratory in White Oak, Maryland, filed a patent for the molecule, where her synthesis consisted of adding TNT to Clorox bleach. This explosive was vacuum tolerant and heat insensitive and was used as an explosive on the moon by the Apollo missions to perform lunar seismometry.

>>14770238
>Through the use of seismology the internal structure of the Moon could be determined to several hundred feet underground. The ASE consisted of three major components. A set of three geophones was laid out in a line by an astronaut from the Central Station to detect the explosions.[5] A mortar package was designed to lob a set of four explosives from varying distances away from the ALSEP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Lunar_Surface_Experiments_Package#List_of_experiments
is there film of these Moon mortars firing and the detonations?

>>14770150
I would never fly in a fixed wing aircraft, it's far too dangerous.

>>14770174
>filename
kek

>>14770213
In terms of hope? All I want to see is continued support for a Uranus orbiter.
My dream would be a 100kW nuclear power source baselined for such a probe, with a total mass of 20+ tons and enough ion thruster propellant to supply ~20,000 m/s of delta V after arrival at the Uranian system. Such a large and highly maneuverable probe would be able to do such neato things as capturing at each main moon and spiral down to a very close polar orbit to map the surfaces in high resolution before spiraling back out to transfer to the next moon and so on, then go back into a Uranus-centered series of orbits to study the ice giant for a few decades until its inevitable end. I'm aware that this dream is very unlikely to be realized but dammit a man can want what he wants.

>>14770238
>her synthesis consisted of adding TNT to Clorox bleach
That bitch was crazy, but I fuck with that

>>14770320
also give it a design life of 30+ years so we can see the wild seasonal changes that whacky tilt causes. oh and high power, high resolution radar too pls

how has the schizo not been banned yet?

>>14770342
>high power, high resolution radar too pls
May as well use those 100,000 watts for something useful between ion burns, after all.

>>14770346
It's much easier to make that happen now that he's outright trolling the thread.

>>14770227
anon, you are genuinely retarded: depicting a 4d model on a 2d surface is equivalent to trying to depict a 3d model with only 1 dimension. it doesn't work, and if you try you end up with something so abstracted away from the original model it's impossible to intuit anything from it, and therefore the whole exercise is useless.

>>14770387
Do not engage with troll posts, please. He's been saying shit like that for weeks.

>>14770387
>depicting a 4d model on a 2d surface is equivalent to trying to
Computer Animation simulation graphics are very very sophisticated these days; this is called "state of the art"

Search on YouTube: 4D computer Animation simulation graphics

>>14770227
So someone responded with this:
>>>/ic/6218489

But by 4d showing the suns interaction and movement, I meant to show the sun moving, and to Depict the Gravity Field, being moved by the Sun.

So in that gif, which direction is the sun moving, and how does that change the depiction of the planets moving?

The Sun is not stationary. The planets don't just orbit in a circle. The planets are moving forward while circling. Depict this.

>>14770387

>>14770320
Remember what they took from you.
Frankly, if you're gonna do it, use the 200kW fission system and try to push the payload mass higher, 1,500kg science payload isn't really that impressive.

>>14770410
What, you mean like this?

>>14770387
But 4D I mean 3D and time.

Depict the Sun moving:

(Sun)--------------->

Depict the 3d/4d gravity field

3D = it exists

Gravity field
##########
##########
##########

4D = it exists and when mass passes through it, traveling mass makes it move

-------------------->#########
(Sun)------------->########
-------------------->#########
######*****************#####
###**(Venus)******************###
###*********************##########
##**************(Sun)-------------->***###
####********************##########
#######****************##########
########************##########

>>14770213
>>14770320
>100kW nuclear power source
> very unlikely to be realized
Perhaps a hot take here but that is why I don't support any NASA mission to Uranus or Neptune as it would almost certainly use RTGs for power and chemical propulsion, so even if launched on an Earth escape trajectory(probably using SLS, lol) it would still be very limited despite the high cost and it would have little practical value as that part of the solar system will be unreachable by men for decades to come.
>>14770426
Project Prometheus/JIMO was a period of temporary insanity, we don't have the technology that would allow a high power space reactor and a supercritical gas turbine to operate reliably without maintenance for 10+ years and we're not close. Kilopower addresses some of those concerns at the expense of higher mass and lower power output but a long-term flagship mission using it is also very unrealistic. It's over, unironically.

>>14770432
Yes, is that accurate? And though, include the depiction of the gravity field.

By simulating the gravity field
, And inputting random particle dynamics as the gravitons, could a computer simulation not brute force inputting quantities and qualities for gravitons making up the gravity field, until the simulation matched observation?

>low IQ schizos

>>14770436
Fuck off

>>14770387 #
But 4D I mean 3D and time.

Depict the Sun moving:

(Sun)--------------->

Depict the 3d/4d gravity field

3D = it exists

Gravity field
##########
##########
##########

4D = it exists and when mass passes through it, traveling mass makes it move

-------------------->#########
(Sun)------------->########
-------------------->#########
######*****************#####
###**(Venus)******************###
###*********************##########
##**************(Sun)-------------->***###
####********************##########
#######****************##########
########************##########

Mods do your jobs

>>14770442
>could a computer simulation not brute force inputting quantities and qualities for gravitons making up the gravity field, until the simulation matched observation?
We already know exactly what gravitons are and how they behave, they just have never been observed. They're a massless spin-2 boson. The simulations already match observations, that's why they're simulations. That's
the whole point.

>>14770449
>But 4D I mean 3D and time.
That's.... not what 4D is.

OOOOHH JANNNYYYYY
CLEAN IT UP JANNY

>>14770437
>little practical value
'Sir, of what good is a newborn baby?'

>>14770455
I beg of you, stop replying to him. He is trolling you.

I'm honestly considering throwing away my humanity and applying to become a janny just to police schizos that show up in /sfg/, that's how bad this has gotten

>>14768835
the hot plasma will notice those terrible tiles as well

>>14770465
We do these things not because they are easy, but because they are hard

>>14770466
Bumps on the tiles do not matter, gaps in the tiles do not matter. This is because Starship experiences less skin heating during reentry than Shuttle due to its different ballistic coefficient, and is not sensitive to heat leakage between tiles like Shuttle was due to having a steel rather than aluminum structure, plus there's a refractory blanket under the tiles as well.

>>14770466
This >>14770470
The boundary layer should be well away from the tiles so the irregularities should average out.

>>14770461
Well maybe if you cucks would ask questions about complex orbits I wouldn't have to respond to the schizo-poster

>>14770470
> pre-emptive sugarcoating
the tile trouble arc will crush you

>>14770470
so it will survive reentry? I personally think it will after reading your comment

>>14770479
>>14770481
The flaps are going to be tricky. The barrel and nose should do just fine unless the tiles literally peel off at max-q

>>14770477
iz dat sum frame dragging?

>>14770486
There do be some dragging (All these points are stationary)

>>14770477
>>14770487
based relativitychad

>>14770455
>That's.... not what 4D is.
It relatively generally is in fundamental theoretical gravitational astrophysics.


Is that gif an accurate representation?

Now add the gravity field into that gif.

I know the gravity field is not visible.

Make the gravity field visible in the representation.

Depicting how the sun, alters the shape of the gravity field, to make that gif true, would be very nice.

Ok, gravitons being massless is another photon thing, and maybe a large reason why you don't understand gravity fundamentally.

The gravity field actually exists in between planets, you dont call the gravity field gravitons.

Gravitons are only the gravity field that is touching the planets body;

BUT THE FORCE OF GRAVITY IS CONTAINED IN MORE THAN JUST THAT WHICH IS TOUCHING THE BODY.

IF A 100 TON BOULDER WERE TO FALL ON YOU, IT WOULD BE LIKE CALLING THE SPACE JUST ON THE SURFACE OF THE ATOMS OF THE BOULDER AS THEIR SURFACE TOUCHES THE SURFACE OF YOUR BODY (OF COURSE POINTING TO TWO SURFACES TOUCHING AND SAYING, IM ONLY REFERRING TO THE 2 SURFACES TOUCHING WHEN I SAY THE TOUCH OF THOSE TWO SURFACES IS MASSLESS), BOULDERTONS AND SAYING THEY ARE MASSLESS FORCE MEDIATORS OF THE BOULDER FIELD.


SPACE IS AN OCEAN OF GRAVITY-CAUSING-SUBSTANCE: GRAVITY IS NOT MAGIC;

IT IS THE DIRECT RESULT OF CAUSAL REACTIONS BETWEEN SUBSTANCES AND TOUCHING BODIES.

WHEN THE SUN MOVES GRAVITY FIELD OUT OF THE WAY, IT IS THE TOTALITY OF THAT VOLUME OF GRAVITY FIELD THAT IS RESPONSIBLE AS A UNIT, FOR MOVING A PLANET;

THE PHOTON OF GRAVITY, THE GRAVITON, ONLY THE END OF THE CHAIN TOUCHING PARTICLE DOES NOT POSSESS THE TOTAL FORCE OF THE AUN ENACTED GRAVITY FIELD MOVEMENT;

THE SURFACE ATOMS OF A BOULDER DO NOT POSSESS AND TRANSMIT 100% OF THE MASS AND ENERGY OF THE BOULDER..... OH SHIT, DO THEY?

STILL EVEN IF THEY DO, THAT DOES NOT IRRELEVANTIZE THE REST OF THE EXISTING BOULDER THAT IF IT WERE NOT FOR, THE FORCE WOULD NOT BE TRANSFERED TO THE BODY

>>14770484
Why does reentry have to be so harsh, why can't you just glide down, caressing the brakes every so often

>>14770487
Now depict the gravity field itself in this gif, and depict that mass traveling the direction it would be traveling at a scale velocity, and rotating as it would be at a scale rotational velocity.

Once you see what is invisible, once you see the dynamics of the invisible gravity field, made visible, and you actually pay attention to reality (massive bodies are moving), things should get easier to figure out.

>>14770477
>To make a time-phone we would need to make a superheavy nucleus and strip all the electrons off it to be able to get at the dense, highly charged nucleus inside. Them, using whirling electric and magnetic fields, we would spin up the supernucleus like the rotor of a motor. The rapidly spinning, highly charged supernucleus will then create a north and south magnetic pole at its spin poles. A super-strong magnetic field can then pull or push on the magnetic poles until the nucleus is stretched out into a long spinning cylinder or spread out into the shape of a rapidly rotating ring. [See Figure 17.] These high density, highly charged, rapidly rotating objects would be time machines for nuclear-sized time travelers, extremely short pulses of gamma rays with wavelengths smaller than the time-transfer region.

What if Bob Lazar was right about being told that superheavy elements being needed for UFO sheeit but he was too ignorant to know why?

>>14770492
it doesn't have to be harsh at all see picrel

>>14770499
>nuclear_goatse.jpg

what if instead of starlinks satellites, starship just shoots giant Prinzen rolles into my mouth?

>>14770508
STS (Snack Transport System)

>>14770508
>eating objectively disgusting cookies just because they're filled with chocolate
at least it's not leibniz butterkeks

>>14770508
3D print one bro, you could probably make a few euros selling it as SpaceX swag

>>14770501
But reentry. It always shown lots of vibrating and glowing red hot and burning up, meteorites burning up.

What if you just slowly reenter? Like glide in at very obtuse angle.

The fear of reentry is you naturally free fall into the atoms of the atmosphere, it's like sprinting in the rain if the rain was made of bb balls.

So starship they are talking about potential belly flop, it's a big ship so lots of surface area to free fall into hitting lots of atoms

Reminder that the depict in 4d schizo has been making 30% of the posts since a few weeks.

>>14770477
He isn't asking a question, he is posting bait. He doesn't genuinely want to know anything, he wants to shit up the thread in a way which is difficult to classify as a bannable offense.

>>14770492
Entry is not aerodynamically harsh, it's just thermally harsh. Max Q occurs during ascent, and once launched there's no feasible way to repair chunks of missing heat shield in orbit.

>>14770487
Is there anywhere in the universe where the gravity field is absolutely stationary?

Or there is likely a relative equilbrium, in between galaxies.

Consider the ocean, is there any where in the ocean where the ocean is relatively stationary? On the surface at least, there is some average equilbrium of little tiny ripple turbulence waves, and then there is a large range of size of waves, frequencies, wavelengths.

Just as different masses in the gravity field causes different size effects of the gravity field.

It is largely the movement of the massive mass that largely moves the gravity field that largely moves the orbiting body.

The observed effects of gravity do not occur as they do without the movement of the bodies, moving the gravity field moving the bodies.

You do not move the floating ball 10 yards away in the pool, if you do not move your hand into the water field that is mediating the force of your hand into the water, the water into the ball

>>14770522
I hate you so much it's unreal.
Fictional media is not a source of information.

>>14770529
Poe's Law is a hell of a drug

>>14770526
Jannies won't ban him, has he found the new formula for trolling in the era 2022+? Asking the same retarded nonsensical questions over and over forever

>>14770544
All of his posts show such an incredible lack of any basic understanding of any topic that it's impossible that this human being would be capable of using a computer. However, the real point of evidence that shows he's trolling is that no matter what you pick to try to explain out of his posts, he will immediately begin an infinite series of followup questions which hint at even further, deeper, and more bizarre misunderstandings of basic physics and reality in general, and even worse, most of those questions would be instantly answered by a single google search's "most common answer" result.

>>14770489
>WHEN THE SUN MOVES GRAVITY FIELD OUT OF THE WAY, IT IS THE TOTALITY OF THAT VOLUME OF GRAVITY FIELD THAT IS RESPONSIBLE AS A UNIT, FOR MOVING A PLANET;
>THE PHOTON OF GRAVITY, THE GRAVITON, ONLY THE END OF THE CHAIN TOUCHING PARTICLE DOES NOT POSSESS THE TOTAL FORCE OF THE ****AUN**** ENACTED GRAVITY FIELD MOVEMENT;
>THE SURFACE ATOMS OF A BOULDER DO NOT POSSESS AND TRANSMIT 100% OF THE MASS AND ENERGY OF THE BOULDER..... OH SHIT, DO THEY?
>STILL EVEN IF THEY DO, THAT DOES NOT IRRELEVANTIZE THE REST OF THE EXISTING BOULDER THAT IF IT WERE NOT FOR, THE FORCE WOULD NOT BE TRANSFERED TO THE BODY
Typo. AUN = SUN

>>14770529
>He isn't asking a question
I am asking a question. What department field of science was responsible for creating the oft seen 2d depiction of a semi sphere grid bowl under a floating central sphere? And why have they not depicted: THE SUN MOVING AND SPINNING, AND HOW THIS MOVES THE GRAVITY FIELD INTO MOVING THE PLANETS CONTINOUSLY NEAR THE SUN

>>14770559
Ah, now it makes sense, thanks for clarifying.

I want to kill you. I want to hurt you as much as possible.

>>14770568
Not spaceflight related.

>>14770559
>>WHEN THE SUN MOVES GRAVITY FIELD OUT OF THE WAY, IT IS THE TOTALITY OF THAT VOLUME OF GRAVITY FIELD THAT IS RESPONSIBLE AS A UNIT, FOR MOVING A PLANET;
AHHHH NOW WE ARE GETTING SOMEWHERE FELLAS.

THIS IS WHY ITS HARD TO PIN DOWN AND WHY GRAVITY FIELD IS SAID TO EXTEND INFINITLY FOR EVERY MASS;.

BECAUSE! THE SUN MOVES X AMOUNT OF GRAVITY FIELD EVERY SECOND, BUT ONLY X - Y OF THAT SUN-MOVED-GRAVITY FIELD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DIRECTLY MOVING THE PLANETS, AND HOW CAN YOU QUANTIFY HOW MUCH.

WHEN CONSIDERING THE OCEAN AS A WHOLE, AND A MASS MOVING IN THE OCEAN, OR A WAVE CRASHING INTO A BOAT, YOU SAY THE ENTIRE OCEAN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HITTING INTO THE BOAT

>>14770574
>Not spaceflight related
How is the complexity of gravity and it's still areas of fundamental mystery not relavant to space flight?

Did the Space Force murder this guy's cat or something? Holy schizoposting.

>>14770588
There is no mystery here, you're just a retard who can't intuit very basic concepts.

Jannies just nuke the thread please, give this schizo a nice permaban and allow us to go back to comfyposting

One of the worst sfg threads of all time

>>14770686
You say that every thread

discuss

>>14767149
12 new stamps from the USSR, four big stamps with their paper backgrounds still attached. Also five stamps from 1957, the first space stamps ever printed
Big stamps are Soyuz-3 stamp (1969), Interkosmos accomplishments stamp (1980), USSR-France Interkosmos stamp 4 (1982), and USSR-India Interkosmos stamp 4 (1984).

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16-nvCg64BM2l3osfUWVuSF-NhZXx8uD6?usp=sharing

>>14770759
One of the three 1986 Cosmonautics day stamps, other two are S. P. Korolev and Yu. A. Gagarin

>>14770763
And the 1980 Interkosmos accomplishments stamp.
The text on the stamp reads: "International flights under the Intercosmos program are a vivid example of effective cooperation between the countries of the socialist community"

>>14770758
Why have one pogo when you could have two

>>14770739
Okay but it's been a bad one for real this time

>>14770595
>you're just a retard who can't intuit very basic concepts.
You understand and can visualize the exact shapes the Sun makes in the Gravity Field so that the Planets orbit the Sun?

LET ME GEUSS, THE SUN MAKES A SIMPLE BOWL, AND ALL THE PLANETS ORBIT THE BOWL, BUT THE BOWL HAS LIKE 8 DIFFERENT LIP WALLS CONCENTRIC.

where can I find the ULA audio leaks

>>14770758
Find an image that isn't a phone-tier thumbnail.

SpaceX is bad imo, I don’t think they’ve really accomplished anything of great worth and I think the fetishization of Elon Musk is disgusting, because he’s a bad person. Also, maybe let’s not let corporations pounce on the opportunity of space industrialization. I think the most worth they have is being a middleman for NASA

>>14770788
There are no leaks. There is no conspiracy.

>>14770788
eric berger's soundcloud

>>14770508
It would be extremely painful.

>>14770796
You're all nazis and pedophiles how tf can you point at elon for being a swindler

>>14770595
Why couldn't you smart science geniuses just go in the smart science database of obvious things that should have been done 40 years ago and link me to the

DEPICTION OF THE SUN INTERACTING WITH THE GRAVITY FIELD IN (3D plus Time) 4D

THAT MAKES THE GRAVITY FIELD PUSH THE PLANETS AROUND THE SUN

Why couldn't someone just post this the first time I asked, I didn't want to ask once, I wanted to be shown this in 8th grade. Instead the smartest science space gravity nerds can't show me this, it sucks

>>14770809
1. Elon Musk is a known conman and swindler. He has been convicted of fraud in the past, and has been known to lie and cheat people out of their money.

2. Space X is a highly speculative venture, and Musk has been known to exaggerate the potential of his companies in order to raise funding.

3. Musk has a history of making grandiose promises that he has failed to deliver on. For example, he promised to send humans to Mars within 10 years, but has yet to do so.

4. Musk has been known to use questionable business practices in order to get ahead. For example, he has been accused of using government subsidies to benefit his businesses.

5. Musk is known for his ego and arrogance. He has been known to make careless statements and put his own interests ahead of those of his companies.

Elon Musk is a conman and rusty swindler because he created false promises about Space X. He said that Space X would be able to provide affordable, reliable, and safe transportation to space, but it has not been able to do so. Instead, Space X has had several accidents, including one that resulted in the death of a NASA astronaut.

Elon Musk has also been accused of using Space X to further his own personal agenda. For example, he has been accused of using Space X to transport his own personal belongings to Mars, while claiming that the company is working on a Mars colonization project.

Elon Musk has also been accused of using Space X to launder money. For example, he has been accused of using Space X to transport drugs and other illegal goods.

Elon Musk is a conman and rusty swindler because he has not been able to deliver on his promises. He has over-promised and under-delivered, and as a result, he has taken advantage of people's trust.

Jannies, clean up on aisle 6.

>>14770812
I don't care about most things but this one:

> Musk has a history of making grandiose promises that he has failed to deliver on

This is only a problem if you literally watched all his talks and took them seriously. I never paid much attention to him at all. It's a pleasant surprise when I see SpaceX landing these rockets, and I'm impressed because they do things I haven't seen before.

>>14770812
1. so?
2. so?
3. so? Also no, he said ten years ago that he'd have men on Mars in ten years best case, 15 to 20 years worst case. We are at the start of the estimated range he gave, not the end.
4. so?
5. so?

I wonder what board and general they came from

>>14770821
I have an inkling, but I'd only get RENT FREE replies and I'm going to bed instead.

So this is how sfg dies . . .

>>14770819
>>14770820

Elon Musk is a fraud and a crook! He's been accused of fraud and deception by the SEC, and he's been investigated by the FBI for potential ties to Russian intelligence. He's also been accused of sexual harassment by several women. And yet, he continues to be revered by many as a visionary and genius.

Musk is nothing more than a carnival barker, peddling false promises and lies. He's nothing more than a rusty swindler, preying on the gullible and the naive. And his space company, SpaceX, is nothing more than a money pit, bleeding cash and failing to live up to its grandiose promises.

Don't be fooled by Elon Musk. He's a fraud, a crook, and a danger to society.

>>14770825
>Elon Musk is a fraud and a crook! He's been accused of fraud and deception by the SEC, and he's been investigated by the FBI for potential ties to Russian intelligence. He's also been accused of sexual harassment by several women.
Good, send him more funding.

>>14770825
hey at least his crookedry gives me a fireworks show

>>14769505
>Realistically, we can estimate a higher end of launch costs at $100 million or so. This bodes well for the vehicle.
Why? Isn't the whole point of starship that it will retire Falcon 9 by offering cheaper costs? If they're going to price Starship similar to Falcon heavy that defeats the whole purpose of it.

>>14769545
How the fuck would SpaceX not be able to launch starship 2 years from now? Two years ago SN8 hadn't even launched.

You're a right rusty swindler, Elon Musk! Ye and yer Space X shite are nothing but a load of hot air! Ye've been stringing us all along for years and we're sick of it! Ye're nothing but a fraud and a liar! We're done with ye, do ye hear me? Done!

>>14769704
You don't have to be left wing or whatever to hate /pol/, I hate /pol/ because it is a shit hole filled with schizos, shills, and bots (not very different from reddit in many ways)

Hooked on phonics

>>14770803
For you

>>14770824
Not with a bang but with a whimper

I am not a rusty swindler. I am a successful entrepreneur and business executive. I have founded or co-founded numerous companies, including Tesla Motors, SpaceX, and SolarCity. I have also been involved in many other businesses, including PayPal and Zip2. I have a proven track record of success in the business world, and I will continue to be successful in the future.