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14753236 No.14753236 [Reply] [Original]

Really? Nurses need to make the new edition-edition?

Old:>>14710660

>> No.14753396

Just heard that a med student girl just committed suicide; apparently, she was really burned out and was raped and abused to top it all - family was completely destroyed. The rest of the class is completely depressed too. Many don't even make it through the bloody expensive exams without at least some years studying outside of school.

It's like these people don't even develop some kind of personality. They just go straight to medschool / work. They know nothing outside of the bibliography of the curriculum or outside of globalized consumerism.

It is almost the same as Phds with suicidal ideation. Academia is a massive clusterfuck and there's very little standardisation. It's hard to make judgements about anyone's circumstances beyond your own. Nepotism is also undoubtedly a factor in many places. Well, it is 50-50, but you can clearly see that these people are depressed and anxious.

Legit can't understand this. I mean at best (I'm not even considering the opportunity cost) a PhD increases a little bit your starting salary. Why the fuck, excluding people hellbent on trying to get tenureship, do people put so fucking effort to get a PhD. Like 2 years at the very last working hard at hs + 4 years working extremely hard at Undergrad + 5 years working extremely hard in a "prestigious" PhD = 11 years. Not to mention the life-time road of studies inside academia.

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>>14753396
I really respect doctors. It seems so tough

>> No.14753784

I want to claim to be a med school dropout. Not to claim to have a medical degree, just to claim to have dropped out of med school.

What are some textbooks I should read to know the absolute most basic shit that a first year medical student would know?

I'm fascinated by nutrition and psychotropic drugs, but my knowledge is mostly limited to what I've picked up reading papers on PubMed (usually skipping to the conclusion). The vocabulary comes easy to me because I've had some Latin and Greek education (mostly Latin). The expression "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing" comes to mind, and even if I didn't plan to trick people, I would want a firmer understanding of the body so that I don't look ignorant when asked a question about something that didn't interest me enough to read about on my own steam.

>> No.14753815

>>14753236
I dont think those are nurses, real nurses twerk on tik tok.

>> No.14753825

>>14753396
>Legit can't understand this
>a PhD increases a little bit your starting salary
>excluding people hellbent on trying to get tenureship
It's really not that difficult, people are driven into academia by ambition. Once you've made a big enough name for yourself, university hospitals will offer you your own little kingdom to rule in exchange for bringing in research grants, that and the prospect of recognition and status is an enticing offer for the striver types. Naturally the competition is retarded and you can kiss any semblance of work life balance goodbye, but that's what they sign up for and they know it. It's not that different to pro sports, for every pro athlete there are hundreds that tried and failed. Anything with high enough stakes to draw in the ambitious type is bound to turn into a clusterfuck as they tend to take things to retarded extremes to succeed.

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14753889

>anon comes in imposter syndrome
>give him a lethal dose of morphine

>> No.14753891

>>14753784
Kreb's cycle. Basic anatomy. basic heart physiology, basic lung physiology.

>> No.14753892

>>14753784
get an open source textbook on anatomy and physiology.
Then buy a drug reference manual and learn how to use it.

>> No.14753954

anaesthesia bros, what's the job like?
about to finish pre-clinical years in med school and still have no idea what I want to do

>> No.14753960

>>14753889
>anon comes in imposter syndrome
You're slipping, old man. Might have to retire you unless you up your game.

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>>14753960
>anon comes in with delusions of grandeur

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https://youtu.be/8RhnHrfTr_Y
how do you guys distinguish between the nerves, to me they all look the same and there's so much stuff between. i have only read about the cervical plexus and seen drawings, but this is so confusing. do students learn this from examining a cadaver? are there better videos with a voice like this, where someone explains the anatomy while doing a surgery on youtube? will i be able to learn anatomy without ever seeing a cadaver or going to university? also, isn't it really easy to accidentally cut a nerve with those scissors?

>> No.14754017

>>14754012

>> No.14754021

>>14753995
i found a great channel with good guides hosted by a fine Canadian
https://youtu.be/crXC7FwoSe4

>> No.14754027

>>14754017
shots give your cells instructions to create antibodies
takes a little bit for your body to create lots of antibodies when faced with the real infection
much faster than without shot so fewer complications

>> No.14754037 [DELETED] 

>>14753396
Just man up you little bitch
The world doesn't revolve around you

>> No.14754059

>>14753980
Am I the only patient you didn't kill with morphine?
I love you too, haroldposter.

>> No.14754074

>>14753995
It's about knowing the anatomical landmarks, for the cervical plexus it's just knowing the nerves, knowing that they emerge superficially at the punctum nervosum and their sites of innervation, and it is easier to learn it from working on cadavers, but you still need to study the anatomy thoroughly. Most doctors have comparativley little anatomical knowledge, beyond internal organs, major nerves and the major blood vessels used for clinical procedeurs. Surgeons and radiologists are probably the only specs with a good grasp of anatomy

>will i be able to learn anatomy without ever seeing a cadaver or going to university?
I've worked a lot with cadavers and supervised students during cadavers courses and I'd say to a degree sure, but to get a practical understanding of anatomy it's pretty important to work on cadavers, it's difficult to get a feel for the spacial relation of the body without it. But it depends on what you want to learn anatomy for.

>isn't it really easy to accidentally cut a nerve with those scissors?
You don't use the scissors to cut, but the spread the tissue appart, that way you can separate the soft fat and connective tissue from nerves and blood vessels without damaging them.

>> No.14754079

>>14753236
Thank you for your service, nurses

>> No.14754089

>>14754074
do you think i can pay a professor to give me in depth lessons on cadavers? or if it's illegal, bribe him?
i wish instead of all those violin lessons i had growing up i instead learned about the body. it's insane how most of us have no idea what's even between our ears

>> No.14754098

>>14754089
>do you think i can pay a professor to give me in depth lessons on cadavers?
What for? Practical anatomy is useless if you're not going to perform procedures. If you just want to look at cadavers go visit body worlds or bribe the guys that handle the cadavers at universities or something

>> No.14754115

>>14754098
because i'm not some hylic who doesn't care how the absolute magnificience that is the mammal body works, i want to see and know every artery, nerve and muscle by name

>> No.14754131

>>14754115
You sure sound like an autistic somatic to me, but if it's elegant magnificience you're after, just stick to physiology, anatomy, especially on cadavers which are exclusively old people, is a messy affair, often packed with abberations and whatever damages they've amassed throughout their lifes

>> No.14754160

>>14754131
do slaughterhouses offer tours, is there a market for that? i am afraid of vivisections because of the smell though, cadavers seem more comfy

>> No.14754164

oh god im so fucking alone

you people are so painfully stupid that theres no reaching the shallow corners of your mind

>> No.14754169

>>14753396
>med student girl just committed suicide
Good news. Currently rotating at pediatric anesthesia and all attendings are women. Things are not better for the upcoming generation of physicians. Back at my hospital there are med students just piddling around taking classes and shit. out of a 30/40 group about 3 or 4 of them students are male, with 3 of them being homos. Deadass.
Dark days come for this profession.

>> No.14754174

>>14754131
also why are cadavers only old people, is that a shartistan thing or does that apply everywhere? don't young people also donate themselves? wouldn't that be really useful for baby surgery? what moralfaggotry is this

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>>14753954
>what's the job like?
It depends. If you live in the american continent then it's all about raping throats, shanking backs and patients been grateful to the surgical nigger instead of you. If you happen to live in the rest of the world then it is a 4 year spec that includes the american experience+ ICU shit, which IMO, is the more complete program.
>still have no idea what I want to do
Congratulations. That is the first requirement. Very few of my residents wanted to do anesthesia since they were fetuses.
T. 2nd year anesthesia resident

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14754205

A moment of silence for psychiatry, for the psychiatrists who do more good than any other medical specialty. Also fuck nurses

>> No.14754216

>>14754174
>what moralfaggotry is this
They have to be old enough to be disqualified as organ donors and old people tend to die at a more reliable rate than young ones, which is what university hospitals need to have a steady supply of cadavers for their courses. There are some specimen pieces from younger people that donated their body, but usually not full cadavers

>> No.14754248

>>14753716
>Remember. Out of all the people applying, the people who have made it far enough and think their app is good enough to justify spending thousands of dollars on app fees- only about a third of them get into a single school.
That's honestly pretty frightening. I'm probably going to apply to a lot of DO schools considering that the requirements for MD schools are getting pretty high and I don't really want to apply again.

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sus

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>>14754248
if this literal retard who thinks plurals are constructed with apostrophes can become an anatomist, so can you

>> No.14754312

>>14754302
Hopefully. I still need to take the MCAT to see where I stand. MD MCAT accepted averages are around the 90th percentile so that's a little daunting.

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14754313

>the absolute state of medcels

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14754430

Medstudent here, just read House of God. How relevant/factual is the information provided in the book? Also is lasix = age + bun true?

>> No.14754895

You DID take the Hippocratic Oath right? You WILL never do an abortion or administer euthanasia/SSRIs (poison), and you DO treat your professor like your father? Right?

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>>14754895
i never took that oath
my country(denmark) has a worse version of the oath where all the stuff about treating colleagues as your blood family is cut out
And because of covid we had to basically sign a pdf file instead of saying the words. What a joke
also in our outh the lines goes "i'll never harm my patient and society" which is an absurd addition

and honestly 95% of doctor colleagues especially my age are people I would never call brothers and especially sisters and I sense it's mutual
oaths and words in general mean nothing in this day and age but I'm still thankful I never had to say the words or take an actual oath because it would be meaningless and that's not OK

>> No.14755568

>>14754895
>Taking oaths seriously.
Damn, you're an NPC, but what can you expect from an amerimutt.

>> No.14755739
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>>14754169
Women are ruining medicine, much like they ruin everything else they touch.

>> No.14755751

>>14752784
They have studied it, doctor triage outperforms nurse triage and nurse triage can bias a doctor's opinion since the triage promotes premature closure on diagnosis. My opinion is that emergency medicine shouldn't exist anyway, family physicians should be staffing emergency rooms and making the appropriate referrals to hospitalists/surgeons. Surgeons, anesthetists, critical care specialists can all do the emergency procedures/intubation/organ support if needed.

Emergency specialists are outclassed by everyone else in any skill you can think of, even family physicians are better diagnosticians since they don't usually have unlimited and immediate access to investigations yet still manage to know if something is serious or not.

>> No.14755760

>>14753954
Murder here. Did some procedural stuff last year. From observations the toughest part about anesthesiology is staying awake.

>> No.14755766

>>14753206
>We all understand this dilemma though, ordering too many tests when the push from the top is to limit and save costs.
Thanks anon. Our team also had to butt heads with radiology who is incredibly short on staff and cry all the time about "should we really irradiate this 50 year old guy? He can get the cancerr!!" shit excuse. It was a learning experience even if it turned out real bad.

>> No.14755923

>>14753236

Oops.

They weren't kidding about a Great Reset.

>TL;DR: The spike protein from COVID-19 and the injections cause auto-immune disease. Everyone has AIDS.

>"On Tuesday, a real zinger was dropped onto the medRxiv preprint server that could potentially explain many of the commonly observed pathogenic features of SARS-CoV-2. The authors provide solid evidence that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein activates the envelope (ENV) protein encoded by HERV-W in blood cells, which is in turn directly responsible for many pathological features of the disease."

>https://phys.org/news/2022-01-sars-cov-spike-protein-human-endogenous.html

>https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.18.21266111v2

>https://www.thelancet.com/journals/ebiom/article/PIIS2352-3964(21)00134-1/fulltext

>http://www.geneuro.com/en/COVID-19/copy-of-herv-in-covid-19

>https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/358982609/#358982609

>https://youtu.be/jtlWCux2dJg

>https://youtu.be/Prhi3_Nvt3U

>https://youtu.be/lV81IUQS9w0

>> No.14755933

>>14755923
How I hate you retarded low IQ amerimutt conspiracy faggots.

>> No.14756004

>>14755456
>>14755568
Also you will never cut someone with a knife? You won't cut off genitalia, or god forbid reduce the amount of large mammary glands in this world?

>> No.14756147

>>14754187
I'm Australian. I assume the lifestyle is shit though? How competitive is it? Anything else you recommend I do to get in except trying to get some research done in the area, doing good to get refs and sucking up to anaesthesia?
>>14755760
>murder here
does that mean it's horrible? where are you?
What do you do during observations (which I assume is when you are looking at vitals during surgery?) to pass the time? Could you write or read something? Or is that unprofessional?

>> No.14756170

>>14754430
None of it is. Most Jewish thing I have ever read.

>> No.14756239

thoughts on dentists who call themselves doctors?

>> No.14756314

Best place to read up about what different specialties are like day to day?

>> No.14756401

>>14755739
You want trannies? because this is how you create more trannies

>> No.14756539
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14756539

>>14756401
women are the head of the tranny movement and tranny acceptance because they can't accept that only the most mentally deranged and sick men would actually want to be women

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https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/254426#1
what is the cause of this? how could it be prevented?

>> No.14756750

>>14756147
Lol that was supposed to be murse.

>> No.14756776

>>14756147
Sometimes I would see them reading a book or running in place or literally dozing off. I had considered becoming a CRNA until I witnessed how boring anesthesia is. Becoming an -ologist and doing trauma or organ transplant cases would probably be more exciting, but at the end of the day you're still just placing tunes and passing gas.

>> No.14756808

>>14756776
*tubes

>> No.14757155

>>14756147
>lifestyle is shit though?
As a resident, in my experience, it has been absolute dogshit. However if you have an institutional job+private practice you can make good ass money while doing the minimal effort.
Some of my attendings have like 3 jobs and earn so much buck they have to pay an accountant to waste/invest their money so they don't get buttraped by taxes. Drawback is obviously that they don't even have a time of their own. But yeah, as an attending you get to set the bar on how much you time is worth.
>How competitive is it?
In my experience anesthesia was easy to get in, but as you progress it gets more and more difficult to stay. We walk hand in hand with the big pharma and tech companies so we have to stay updated on the last trends and discoveries.
Also, if you happen to be a heterosexual male you wont be as desirable to the market because cumbrain surgical niggers would rather have an eyecandy braindead female anesthesiologist than an actually competent gas monkey. Females for some reason are the majority of anesthesiologists here so you will have to deal with idiotic drama, tantrums and hurting egos.
>Anything else you recommend
Only apply anesthesia if you have cold blood and can think quickly when the monitor starts going apeshit. If you dominate this you'd already be an above average anesthesiologist.

>> No.14757639

>>14754313
Eric Strong is good people

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>>14757155
Thanks for the great answers, anaesthesia bro!
Wishing you all the best with your career

>> No.14758893

>>14756609
>what is the cause of this?
limited time
constant interruptions - pager, phone, nurse, colleagues
too much work
several situations going on simultaneously
alarm fatigue
and lastly - the human factor
> how could it be prevented?
it couldn't

>> No.14759143

TO EVERYONE OF /SCI/
I PROPOSE WE USE TRIPS TO SHIT UP THE MED BOARD AND GET THESE LOSERS TO FUCK OFF

AS A POINT ABOUT BETAS AND WASTING TIME ETC

JUST JOIN ME IN SHITTING UP THEIR BOARD

>> No.14759147

I think I randomly got tinnitus this weekend. I was sitting at my computer in the afternoon and all of a sudden a high pitched whine started in my head. It's been over 24 hours and hasn't stopped. Nothing strange or different happened leading up to it. I might kill myself because this is horrible. Any medical advice?

>> No.14759162

>>14759143
The Board and these customary threads are already all fucked. Any serious conversation can't even take place. It really is just another outlet for braindeads, liars and minors.

>> No.14759440

>>14753396
>Babbys first med suicide
What a clusterfuck is academia in the US. anyways, people take the path of least resistance, once they pick med school on a flimsy wish they must stick with it to the very end since starting over would require knowing nothing over again and the unsurmountable effort of keeping up pace with your generation who started earlier in that alternative field. Thus people have no choice but to keep going on.

I'm at the same dilemma actually. Fucking hate this makeshift ped residency, yesterday I had a kid almost die on me, i know fucking nothing and had no supervision, besides all the fucking kids came at the same time so i had like 6 of them queuing while doing all the paperwork for the critical kid. He had pulmonary bronchodisplasia and it seemed to me like community acquired pneumonia, wasted a lot of time just watching and wondering what to do. Administration only cares about attention times so i'm absolutely fucked either way.

>> No.14759444

>>14754089
Violin lessons are a lot more fucking valuable than anything medicine related. Besides, it's just fucking baby's first anatomy, the fuck are you worrying about? You never use that shit.

>> No.14759449

>>14754115
Medicine is not for you buddy. Go study biology or some shit. Speaking honestly here, this field is not about knowing everything, there's too much shit, you only pick up the tools you will use.

>> No.14759462

>>14756239
Doctor here. Nobody should call themselves doctors. Fuck all this pretentious paraphernalia.

>> No.14759465

>>14756314
Go to a hospital at night and ask the overworked residents what their life is like. You will never read on anything like that anywhere.

>> No.14759471

>>14756609
Simple. Hire more people. I.e. it will never be solved.

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>>14759143
God you're retarded

>> No.14759524

>>14759147
If it's that sudden it's either just really temporary or something physical
T. licensed neetologist

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>>14759444
So no doctor has any clue what's behind our skin? The surgeons just know what's physically there and have barely any idea how it works, while physicians or pharmacists know how it works but have no mental map of the nervous system? My ignorance of my own body, the very thing I have controlled, nay, have controlled ME for the past two decades, caused an existential crisis, and as I am drawing maps of nerve plexi, memorizing the functions of the organs and watching dozens of dissection videos every day, on cadavers and live people, I sense a euphoria I have never felt. All these millions of years of death and reproduction have created something more spectacular than we could ever achieve. I've even started flossing and being even more disciplined with my health because of my respect for the body

>> No.14759834

>>14759541
It's very simple: we use what is necessary for our role and any extra stuff is a bonus. If you want to be armchair superdoc, go ahead.

>> No.14760392

I developed a bad addiction to comfort food in the last few years of med school /med/ . The years of bad nutrition is finally destroying my brain. I just don't have the energy anymore years of rotations/thesis work and assignments. I don't feel like i'm going to make it to the end anymore, and think about killing myself every day. I miss my 4chan neet days

>> No.14760402

>>14760392
>I miss my 4chan neet days
I want to hear how you became a NEET to becoming a medical student, please.

>> No.14760414

>>14760402
My country just has an entrance exam for med school, no other requirements. So once i made up my mind to do something different in life i studied and somehow passed. I still really feel like an imposter here, pretty much everyone else is so socially well adjusted in life compared to me.

>> No.14760644

>>14753825
Problem is many students do t actually know what they’re getting into and are actively tricked by faculty and their professors. Promises of fame and a tenure-ship are given to everyone but the harsh reality is that it’s not possible for 99% of people in the program.

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14761014

Give me one good reason I shouldn't go into nephrology

>> No.14761025

Currently applying to med school

I am in the process of getting a publication with a well known doctor if I play my cards right

Have any of you gotten publications before applying? How hard is it?

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Would you guys flirt/date a patient from a practice, where you're doing a one month or two weeks internship?

>> No.14761158

>>14761014
it's boring ?

>> No.14761458

>>14761104
No, never. It's fucking stupid to date patients as a doctor, no woman is worth giving your medical license up for. It's not like it's hard to get a date if you put it in your tinder profile.

>> No.14761692

>>14753236
Anyone know whats wrong with me? I suddenly lost the ability to feel hunger two weeks ago but I have no other symptoms. I can still eat normaly. Could it be a brain tumor? I cant afford to see a doctor.

>> No.14761919

>>14761104
Why would I date someone who is seeing me because there's something wrong with them. I only date flawless specimens.

>> No.14762240

>>14761692
Dude you're just thirteen everyone experiences that at that age

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>>14761014
I can't, nephrology is the last true internal medical specialty

>> No.14763310

>>14753995
i literally don't remember a single nerve that belongs to the brachial plexus

t. internist

>> No.14763422

>take blood pressure
>wait a minute or two
>take blood pressure again
>systolic and diastolic are both lower by about 8 mmHg
>wait another minute
>take blood pressure again
>this time blood pressure is almost the same as the second time
What gives?

>> No.14763426

Were vaccines by design never meant to be a magic force field and the idea that they make you impervious to infection was always a problem?

>> No.14763650

>>14763426
>Were vaccines by design never meant to be a magic force field and the idea that they make you impervious to infection was always a problem?
Some induce sterilizing immunity for viral infections that show a consistent genetic stability like Measles or Hepatitis B, when you're vaccinated for those you won't catch the disease unless your immunesystem is completely fucked. Other species of viruses like influenca are far less genetically stable, hence why flu vaccines have to be updated yearly and come with a generally lower efficacy as the pharmaceutical companies essentially have to make a educated guess as to which strains will become dominant during the next flu season and design their vaccines accordingly, which sometimes doesn't work. We got rid of some very nasty communal disease through vaccination, but they're not a silver bullet that works for everything.

>> No.14764330

>>14763422
were you nervous on the first measurement?

>> No.14764438

>>14764330
No. This is a pattern I've noticed over three weeks of taking my own blood pressure.

>> No.14764539

>>14754430
That book is a bunch of nonsense. I had to put it down because it was so retarded. Read The Tennis Partner

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looking for good books in regards exercises for fixing posture, kyphotic lordosis in particular. I know about zlibrary so I just need the names of books. pretty plz.

>> No.14764967

>>14760414
Kek, I'm the same. Dude, let me give you important advice. Drop out as soon as you fucking can. You already finished? Go work in a call center, go on a trip, learn to code, do anything under God's good earth but medicine.

This fucking field is not for smart guys, on the contrary it eats away your intellect thanks to all the fucking night shifts and work overload. The challenges of medicine are purely based on volume, it's not hard to learn, it's difficult to keep up. Don't go into residence or you'll be deep in shit over again.

>> No.14764972

>>14761014
The smell of piss and dialisite.

>> No.14764981

>>14761025
Imagine if the world was filled with garbage publications made by kids trying to get into a school. Their goal is to get a job and fucking eat, but they still have to shit out a publication somehow. Who reads that shit? Who do they write it for?

>> No.14765000

>>14763310
Brachial plexus is neonatologist turf.

>> No.14765003

>>14764587
Just go to Elsevier's site, type in "physical therapy" and steal whatever.

>> No.14765005

>>14754187
from your perspective, what does a nurse anesthetist do?

>> No.14765041

>>14764967
>Kek, I'm the same. Dude, let me give you important advice. Drop out as soon as you fucking can.
Why haven't you dropped out then?

>> No.14765448

>>14765041
Because i'm fucking stupid and slow. I already wasted 10 years of my life in this shit. I feel so incompetent i don't believe i can simply start over and study something else, how would I compete with people who are already in those fields? I have a doctor degree, but the pay is still miserable, the only road from here on is keep going deeper into the shit with residency etc. I don't want to feel like I lost, and that's wrong, losing or winning has nothing to do with achieving happiness.

>> No.14765455

Do MD schools even accept White and Asian men anymore?
Will osteopaths lose the stigma since so many more doctors (and qualified people who didn't get into MD schools) are DO?
Can I get into a gen surg residency as an osteopath?
I really want to get into medschool straight out of undergrad but this shit is ridiculous.
I have about a 3.6 GPA, research experience, years of clinical experience, leadership, clinical leadership, etc, etc I just wish my GPA was a little higher but fuck if I don't get in it's like who the fuck can

>> No.14765461

>>14765448
give me advice then please
>>14765455

>> No.14765488

>>14753396
The whole of societ is becoming highly anxitous.
It is just the collective subconcious waking up to the imminent reckoning.

>> No.14765504

>>14755739
The whole women ruin everything argument is total bs lads.
There are plenty of weak narcissistic men who actively try to ruin a good thing out of pure jealously.

>> No.14766187

>>14765504
>t. woman

>> No.14766304

>>14765455
>Do MD schools even accept White and Asian men anymore?
Whites are Asians are the majority in medical school. Get better.

>> No.14766321

>>14766304
>Whites are Asians
Hmmm.

>> No.14766342

>>14766321
Whites and Asians*

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>>14766187
Your recoking will come, just be patient.

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>>14753236
What do you do when even docs tell you your condition can't be cured? Fuck cheilitis. Sunlight isn't helping me, diet isn't helping, seems like there's no hope and it's been 5 years. Dermatologist just sent me home and said: "You'll have to manage it, good luck."

>> No.14766745

>>14753891
>Kreb's cycle
Kek

>> No.14767908

>>14760414
>>14764967
Where the hell do you guys live? Brazil?

>> No.14768027

>>14767908
El Salvador

>> No.14768038

>>14766656
>have a problem
>go to doctors
>the problem is now worse

>> No.14768343

>>14757155
Are you worried about NPs and PAs encroaching on your work?

>> No.14768379

>>14761014
cause it's for fags and midwits

>> No.14768381

>>14768343
no because they're retarded and can't think. if they have encroached on a physician's job it's because that physician is retarded

>> No.14768415

How did you study for MCAT? It is the only thing I don't know where to start. Any tips?

>> No.14768433

>>14768415
Don't go into medicine, how many times must I tell you? Fuck off, go figure out what other people do for a living.

>> No.14768444

>>14768433
I will go into your mom's cunt if I want, STFU nigger. Either answer or fuck off.

>> No.14768446

med student starting 2nd year here, everything is going so fine, I'm already mingling very well with my classmates plus I feel my performance studying has increased.

Any tips?

>> No.14768452

>>14764967
if you let the career "eat away your intellect" maybe you weren't even intelligent to begin with, fucking retarded kys

>> No.14768453

>>14765005
>>14768343
Those do not exist in my country lol. We have anesthesia techs whose only job is to tune my machine, change the circuit's tubes and hand me the local anesthetic whenever I am doing a block.

>> No.14768470

>>14768453
Canadian, British or Australian?
iirc continentals and americans have CRNAs
do you think there is any chance that america may export its CRNA bs?

>> No.14768772

i like watching youtube videos teaching techniques like how to apply dressings or how to put on gloves using sterile technique, link some /med/

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>>14768772
That's kinda weird, man.

>> No.14769376

>>14766656
>Dermatologist just sent me home and said: "You'll have to manage it, good luck."
Outpatient care is retard in the sense that it's supposed to manage chronic conditions, but then not all chronic conditions are profitable, so you get fucked. Look for specialists, whatever country you're in most likely has a national association of various specialties, see if one of the higher ups is in your region and try to get an appointment at his clinic, even if you can't talk to them directly, you'll get a physician that reports to them and most likely is up to date on possible treatment options or research regarding treatment resistent cheilitis and can refere you if necessary. You'll have to wait a while, but it's probably a better strategy than taking shots in the dark with other Dermatologists in private practice

>> No.14769385

>>14753236
>50 y.o. Patient with thyroid cancer
>Needs a feeding tube
>Some retard places his feeding tube in inferior lobe of his left lung
>Nobody notices, gets "feed" through it for a week
>Entire inferior lobe has now been destroyed by a gigantic abscess
I sure wonder who placed his feeding tube, it must have been a qualified physician taking all the necessary precautions

>> No.14769391

>>14769385
What country? Do you guys not confirm with stethoscope or xray?

>> No.14769427

>>14769376
Thanks for giving me some hope anon, I'll take a look. I'm in Germany and it's generally very hard to get appointments. Fuck this condition.

>> No.14769431

>>14769391
Big hospital in central europe, at the very least you're supposed to inject air and listen for bubbeling in the stomach. My best guess is it was some nurse in rehab or a retarded intern without supervision, in any case it's an insane fuck up, but my countries laws are pretty reluctant when it comes to compensation for medical errors, so even if they can somehow proof negligence, at best he'll get maybe 50.000 euros

>> No.14769482

>>14769427
>I'm in Germany and it's generally very hard to get appointments
That explains it, if you're covered by public insurance, private practice gets terrible reimbursments for repeat visits, it simply isn't profitable for a dermatologist to actually put effort into your treatment if the first and second line treatment didn't deliver results, hence why you were politely told to fuck off. Beyond that derm is a difficult speciality to get into, and the doctors that made it to private practice make most of their money with asthetic procedures. Look for public clinics, you should get an appointment with a referal from your family doctor and the doctors there aren't as fixated on their own bottom line as the ones in private practice are. The same applies for pretty much any medical problem, if private practice care can't deliver results in a reasonable timeframe, you should try getting a referal to a clinic, some doctors will refere you themselves if they exhausted their treatment options, but many will just tell you to fuck off.

>> No.14769707

>>14769385
how do you even do that wtf

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>>14754294
amogus

>> No.14769974

>>14753784
gray's anatomy & lehninger's biochemistry
katzung's pharma for drugs
good luck schizo

>> No.14770626

>>14769385
>>14769431
Ah come on, fuck off and gift the poor doomed patient a fucking euthanasia already

>> No.14770705

My mother was admitted to the local hospital and was diagnosed with a stroke. She went back to the hospital less than a week later because her condition worsened and was airlifted to a much better hospital about an hour away where she was eventually diagnosed with an infection in her that traveled to the rest of her organs and caused major damage and eventually led to her death. The doctors at this other hospital believe the infection is what caused her stroke symptoms. Do I have a case for medical malpractice? Is checking for an infection something routine that doctors that doctors should do that her original doctors didn't perform?

>> No.14770709

I think my dad has a cluster B personality disorder, what do to get him seen by an actual psychiatrist cuz I'm just a junior doctor?

>> No.14770806

I exercise normally but my cardiovascular performance and stamina (say for jogging) has been deteriorating. 32 years old, healthy, good diet, no vax, did a bunch of blood tests including heavy metals and stuff. I'm Canadian so health care for something like this is basically useless.

What could it be?

>> No.14770842

>>14770709
Never try to treat your direct relatives/close friends/family.

>> No.14771006

>>14768470
>Canadian, British or Australian?
Mexico lol
>do you think there is any chance that america may export its CRNA bs?
Not in my country. In here the nurses do not seem as skilled/intellectual as in other countries. Aldoe a lot of them share the same traits as with other country's nurses like being single mothers, being slaves to gossip and forming mafia-like lobbies inside hospitals.

>> No.14771015

>>14770705
First off, sorry for your loss. Second off, I am not familiar with your mother's clinical history or the circumstances involving her illness.
Third and most important, ain't no way in hell I am snitching on a fellow practitioner that I don't know/may like.

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Blackpill me on CAA, bros. Is it really too good to be true?

>> No.14771273

Anyone else become racist through medicine?

>> No.14771504
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>medicine doesn't even know the pathogenesis of white matter hyperintensities

god

why

Why is everything so fucking SHIT.

Some government needs to pass a law that the state owns all bodies, we give everyone an MRI and we autopsy anyone of interest

>> No.14771508

>>14771504
Fuck you, commie. Also I don't think we have enough machines to scan the dregs of society.

>> No.14771511

>>14771504
>white matter hyperintensities
genuine question, do we still know so little about these?

>> No.14771673

>s-stress can make you sweat while you're a-asleep, r-really!
what a load of shit

>> No.14771674

>>14771504
Medicine may not know, but Industry does.

>> No.14771675

>>14769431
>central europe
so poland

>> No.14772027

>>14771675
Worse G*rmoney

>> No.14773219

>female, ~28 years
>bacterial vaginosis (being locally treated) since a week back, no systemic antibiotics
>debilitating bilateral lower back pain since a day back
>can't rotate or extend the back without extreme pain
>positive Murphy's sign
>no fever, nausea, or vomiting
>slightly elevated CRP

???
it would be much easier if all the signs of pyelonephritis were there

>> No.14773228

>>14773219 (also neg for nitrites using dipstick)

>> No.14773363

I am SICK of all these FAGGOT students and faculty prattling about "self-care" and other such bullshit. Just fuck off and let me study

>> No.14773430

>>14769385
Don't nurses or interns do that kind of work? Pretty fucking dumb to place a thing without testing, and quite unlucky for it to go through the trachea when even intubating intentionally is a pain in the ass.

>> No.14773441

>>14770705
>Do I have a casenfor medical malpractice?
Don't be an asshole. From the way you talk it also seems you probably didn't even love your mother anyways.

It's not like figuring out whether a patient has an infection is easy either, you need at least a couple of days with fever to even consider the possibility of blood tests. When a patient comes in critical condition you just give them antibiotics in a spray and pray style because the condition has already set in for whatever risk factors the patient had. Besides, it's pretty dubious for the new hospital to claim the stroke was caused by an infection. Plenty of other possible causes.

And the other guy is right. Why would we snitch on other medics? You already have a profession dedicated for that, and the reaction to jerk practices like that are insurance companies leveling the field and artificial inflation rising in a positive feedback loop.

>> No.14773445

>>14770709
meet with them in a public space and talk about stuff, get your dad to build rapport with the psychiatrist and let him talk his heart out.

>> No.14773452

>>14773219
>positive murphy sign
Cholelithiasis, but i doubt you're even doing Murphy's sign right. run a urine test (not fucking dipstick), check for blood, could be kidney stones or whatever. If negative take a spine Xray and check for shit.

>> No.14773819

>>14765455
mcat score? also hope you have a great personal statement and letters of rec

>> No.14773868

>>14773452
This. Had a similar case about 4 weeks ago. Urine stick clean, acute abdomen screen negative. Xray showed a gall bladder full of stones. CT abdo also gave us a >5cm large ovarian cyst, and hemoperitoneum.

>> No.14773879

>>14771508
>nooo, not the MRI scanerinoooo
fuck off. Contarianism is genuine autism.

>> No.14774024

>>14773452
>Cholelithiasis
Absence of fever and vomiting though, and no mention of abdominal pain. Also any back pain would be more superior than "lower back".
2nding the "if you use a dipstick, you're a dipshit" sentiment though

>> No.14774497

>>14774024
>>14773452

>No abdominal pain
>Positive murphy (!)
>Cholelitiasis
>Fever, murphy +
>Expecting serious answers with that dogshit description of a patient
>Giving serious answers with that dogshit description of a patient

ISHYGDDT

>> No.14774510

have had covid for 5 days. got conjunctivitis on both eyes since yesterday: bloodshot eyes, soreness, ackumulation of pus, blurry vision until I've cleaned it out, et c. have started cleaning using saline solution, and will start using a 5% bibrocathole cream (Noviform) in a few hours. anything else I should use?

(sorry for asking about this here, there's a free medical hotline in my country but I have a really hard time speaking right now)

>> No.14774521

>>14774510
If your situation genuinely worries you, go see a doctor.

No actual medical advice is offered here.
Please excuse the absolute gay monkeypox infested nigger (OP) who made the thread and forgot to note that. He doesn't know any better.

>> No.14774524

>Male, 21
>History of childhood ITP
>Treated with rituximab in the past, worked fine until infection
>platelets 3,000
>Beta-2 Glycoprotein 1 IgG 74 SGU (high)
> Antinuclear Antibody, IFA <40 TITER (normal)
> Anticardiolipin IgG 113 GPL (HIGH)

how do you even fix this shit, nothing works

>> No.14774529

>>14774521
bullshit, actual medical advice is offered here all the time. there's ofc shitposting too. many here have a serious case of oneuppitis when it comes to diagnosing posters too

>> No.14774532

>>14774529
You seem to be confused. If you take anything written here seriously you are a retard, as no serious diagnosis can be made through an image board post.

Diagnosis: Profound mental retardation.
Treatment: Go get those eyes checked you melon.

>> No.14774534

>>14774524

Is he hemodynamically stable?

If not, call the ICU.
If yes, call hematology.
If you are one of the aforementioned specialists/resident, ask your betters and git gud.

>> No.14774536

>>14774532
you seem to be confused.
"actual medical advice is offered here all the time" isnt incompatible with "no serious diagnosis can be made through an image board post".

>> No.14774540

>>14774536
im not the one with fucked up eyes faggot

>> No.14774547

Are all you med students looking forward to becoming part of the corporate medical establishment and murdering people with deadly drug 'treatments' purely because a sales rep told you he'd get you tickets to a Swiss conference if you pushed his drugs instead of other older ones which actually work but are no longer covered by patent?

>> No.14774550

>>14774547
yes, i am.

>> No.14774552

>>14774540
Well, that makes two us of us.
There are 84 posters ITT, Anon...

>> No.14774559

>>14774547
I'm a resident looking forward to hitting it big in a meme stock, shitcoin or dog race in order to make the pain stop.
Sales reps don't pay me any attention because I do not prescribe statins on a daily basis, but jokes on them because I am very easy to bribe, and I would really enjoy drinking hot cocoa in a nice hotel room overlooking the idyllic Swiss scenery.

>> No.14774570

>>14774552
Glad your eyes are OK my friend.
You know what I meant. Im not trusting any retards description of the situation if I can't see him.

>> No.14774585

>>14774570
Yeah, that's fair

>> No.14774696

Why can't people over 60 eat almost anything w/o complaining about liver or whatever the fuck it is? I see otherwise perfectly healthy geezers getting beaten down into submission by fats and spices left and right, what's the cause of this and does healthy living and/or eating clean prevent it?

>> No.14775444

>>14772027
germany is western europe sweetie only slavs cope with central europe
please tell me it wasn't the french one in berlin

>> No.14775454

switzerland is badnorway by the way for you amerimutts

>> No.14775586

>>14771273
I was already racist before medicine and had to pretend I was "antiracist" to get in.

>> No.14775621

>>14775586
What happens when you have patients of the race you hate?
>had to pretend I was "antiracist" to get in.
Elaborate.

>> No.14775647

>>14771273
you're posting this every thread, what's the endgame here?

>> No.14775790

>>14775444
It's the Germans who came up with Central Europe, historylet

>> No.14775802

>>14775647
I'm very curious if this is normal. I sometimes view Black/Hispanic patients with contempt but I also sometimes feel guilty about feeling that way and I want to hear how racist doctors see patients they don't like because of their race.

>> No.14775827

>>14774534
prescribed prednisone, platelet count jumped to 22k

patient is hemodynamically stable, hematocrit is also normal

I don't think there is an actual cure for this disease, some rheumatologists here who are looking into it said everything has been tried and the patient will most likely be forced to be on prednisone for a long time.

WBC was elevated due to infection, now its at 9.4

>> No.14775833

>>14775621
Nothing? I don't have to actually like my patients to do my job

>> No.14775843

>>14775790
back when germany included those lands anod the fake non-justified shithole of poland created b y the soviets to weaken krauts

>> No.14775851

>>14755933
I genuinely wish they would just be permanently range banned already.
Fucking ruining every thread they can or are at least trying to.

>> No.14775865

>>14775843
that's a lot of irrelevant pseud sputtering, try "sorry, I was wrong" next time

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Practicing FUE on yourself is FUN

>> No.14775912

>>14775865
cope on jakub

>> No.14775916

>>14775889
does it hurt?

>> No.14775928

>>14775916
sure, especially when you twist the needle/punch and pull the follicular unit out. more painful on the scalp than on the shins though. usually lidocaine et c is injected ofc.

>> No.14775953

>>14775912
back to wakanda

>> No.14775969

>>14775953
haha you're polish ahah

>> No.14775970

Is there anything stronger than Dexamethasone for pain on the back of the mouth when swallowing.

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>>14753889
Came across this in one of my lectures. The legacy lives on, Shipbros.

>> No.14776732

>>14774024
Cholelithiasis is not CholeDOCOlithiasis dumbass. You get all those fucking symptoms from blocked drainage inflamming the duct before it fucking explodes, not from just having stupid stones and sludge in your gallbladder. Besides, what dogshit description? Have you even met a fucking patient in real life? People consult with 6 hours of fever and no other fucking symptoms, sometimes they come with an innocent abdominal pain that persists for two weeks. You have to start looking for shit somewhere and the patient expects you to relieve them not caring the cause. It's the healthiest patient the most difficult to treat, but what would a smug premed dipshit know? We used to call people like you Hangnails.

>> No.14777000

>>14775970
Please i want to shoot myself with a shotgun

>> No.14777220

>>14776732
>Besides, what dogshit description?
that was in another comment I think, anon

>> No.14777647

I have received an offer to study MD, yet I am still unsure whether I want to pursue being a physician or not. I know it's a privileged thing, and probably one of the hardest things is to get accepted into an MD program. But honestly, after reading this board countless times, it seems that going into an MD program to help people isn't something of reality anymore. From what I understood primarily due to bureaucracy.

What was your reason for entering into MD program?

>> No.14777657

>>14777647
>What was your reason for entering into MD program?
pussy(that didn't work out)
reliable job, you can always be employed (a misleading truth)
prestige (there is none)
money(the money is really meh)
everything else is shittier in comparison(i think this is the best reason)

honestly the job is kinda interesting if you enter the field that matches your personality which I did.
so that's the reason i'm a doctor now without hating it
I suggest you go for it

>> No.14777744

>>14777000
Depends on the cause, get ibuprofen and get checked.

>> No.14777756

>>14777647
>I am unsure
Then don't. You don't know what the field is about or what it's like. This is way too much of an investment of both time and money, it's not challenging, it's just endless work. If you're a dumbfuck with great resilience, medicine is for you.

>it's a privileged thing
It's not
>hardest
it's not. The hard part is getting admitted into a residency program since at the end of the road is a bottleneck you'll need money to waste on applications and a solid network of corruption.

>my reason
My dad was a doctor, I liked physiology, and I was too lazy to look into other fields, now i'm stuck with this shit and my life is going to a waste.

>> No.14777760

>>14777647
There are about three reasons to do it, and most peoples reason are a mix of those three in my experience
>masochism
"I'll sacrifice myself to do this shitty job because someones gotta do it, and I'm a better choice than the next guy"
>sadism
"I want power over the human body, I want to know how it works and how to make it do what I want it to do"
>Prestige
"I want people to be in awe of my abilites, I want to be superior to those peons I treat"
For me it's masochsim, it can be a pretty shitty job, but someone has to do it and ideally properly, plus I like the good parts a lot and I haven't fully succumb to cynicism yet

>> No.14777769

>>14777760
>"I want power over the human body, I want to know how it works and how to make it do what I want it to do"
>body always ends up healing itself, nobody knows how drugs work, only that they work

>> No.14777778

>>14777769
>medicine is just pushing pills
wrong
>body always ends up healing itself
wrong

>> No.14777807

>>14777760
that's not sadism, anon. that's just control and dominance.

>> No.14777814

... also that's not masochism either

>> No.14777841

>>14777778
He's a naturopathfag. What did you expect?

>> No.14778197

>>14753784
First learn normal anatomy and physiology. Then learn pathology and how all those things can get fucked up. Then learn pharmacology and how all those fucked up things get treated. Know at least the 200 most common medications.

>> No.14778674

>>14777647
>I have received an offer to study MD, yet I am still unsure whether I want to pursue being a physician or not.
Assuming you're an American, you jumped through so many hoops to get accepted and you're still unsure?

>> No.14779103

>>14777647
The symbols contained within the human body allow me to do spiritual exercise and rites as I practice, meaning I can deepen my knowledge of metaphysics and undergo self-initiation in the forgotten collegia of medicine in Rome. But you have to be a schizo like me to use that as your reason.

>> No.14779382

>>14778674
It must be a shitpost, the school year has already started

>> No.14779773

>>14777807
I'd say those are aspects of sadism, but sure, not really textbook
>>14777814
Deriving pleasure and meaning from torturing yourself by working in some shitty enviroment for "the greater good" is very much masochism

>> No.14779955

>>14777760
>I'll sacrifice myself to do this shitty job because someones gotta do it
>"I want power over the human body
>"I want people to be in awe of my abilites
No one's in medicine for these bullshit reasons lmao

>> No.14779959

>>14756147
>What do you do during observations (which I assume is when you are looking at vitals during surgery?) to pass the time?
Post on 4chan

>> No.14779962

>>14769431
>at the very least you're supposed to inject air and listen for bubbeling in the stomach.
It's not even that, the patient is gonna cough as all hell while you're shoving the tube through his trachea and then you're gonna hear breathing and see breathing moisture on the tube kek

>> No.14779964

>>14771273
No, but I became pro-eugenics and mandatory euthanasia for the mentally ill and obese

>> No.14779965

>>14774547
Yeah, triggering schizos is the best part

>> No.14779966

>>14779773
>not really textbook
yeah, you could say that again

>Deriving pleasure and meaning from torturing yourself [...] is very much masochism
indeed. that's not what the post above said though, so. adding in "for the greater good" just makes it altruistic without it needing to be masochistic

(sorry, unironically autistic. should do something better than discussing semantics)

>> No.14779971

>>14777647
>What was your reason for entering into MD program?
Biology and chemistry were my favourite subjects and school, and I wanted something more practical/with manual skills involved than pure bio/chem research science
That's it
Although medical uni in my country is straight after school, not jumping through 5 different diplomas like the US

>> No.14780040

>>14753396
I wouldn't mix the struggles of medschool with academia. Two different beasts. I graduated medical school three years ago and almost went down the same path.
The thing is that medical school is not a real academic course, it is an overglorified professional polytechnic school. Some decades ago it was part of real academia, where you learned a valuable science and gained qualifications to do many different things. Clinic? Admin? Research? Consulting? You got it, all possible. That is why there were so many Nobel prize winners who were doctors by training. Now, you are streamlined to the first medical position available and you'll be stuck with it for close to a decade before you can leave. After that, you'll be qualified to do one thing only, and you'll be utterly useless for anything else. Medical school is a factory for the mass-production of medical slaves. You'll be unqualified for anything other than being a hospital monkey, following guidelines made by someone else and utilizing your google-fu. Any alternative career path means having to go back to school and redoing everything, and shitting on your medical education and the money invested in it. You want to explore alternative paths? You can't. Every year outside of the hospital will be its own "kiss of death", good luck explaining that to any future clinical employer that expects you to be a one-trick-monkey slave with no further ambitions.
Anyone considering medical school should really, really think about this and ask themselves if they have any ambitions, any at all, that are not spending your entire days at the hospital, possibly in a specialty you don't even like.

>> No.14780048

>>14768452
People who get big mad when hearing the truth are always the brainlets who struggled in medschool. Yes, it eats away at your intellect. Med school isn't "hard" by any metric except volume, and you don't really have to think much in your daily work.
t. ex-doctor neuroscientist

>> No.14780058

>>14772027
it was at the charite wasn't it? shit supervision, the residents are thrown to thee wolves

>> No.14780128

Can I count on getting pass for assissted suicide if I hate any form of work, because my subconscious interprets that as pain? I can't work for longer than few months before I "burnout" and become chronically fatigued, I lose any will to keep going and feel generally shit even if work I'm given is easy, relatively stress free and pays well

>> No.14780404

>>14780048
Nothing is hard. Anyone who tells you that stuff is hard is a coping retard. I came from a mathematics degree and med school has the same level of difficulty. The only activities that are intellectually difficult are being done by luminaries and experts in their respective fields, whether that field is mathematics, physics, computer science, philosophy, biology, chemistry or medicine.

>> No.14780736

>>14780404
>I came from a mathematics degree and med school has the same level of difficulty
I know for a fact med school is easy as fuck. It's literally just memorization and training your patience and self-restraint when being abused by asshole superiors. If you're saying mathematics was just as easy then very well, it doesn't negate the fact that any retard could finish medical school.

>> No.14781274

>>14761014
why would you want to spend the rest of your life caring about people piss and shit

>> No.14781284

>>14779955
you are in for a surprise

>> No.14781646

>>14781284
maybe you are, when you finally stop larping based on pop culture cliches about medicine and realize that 99% of the people in it are just
>idk, my [relative] was a medfag so i'm a medfag
>it's good stable money man
>i just like biochem bro :)
not some fucking House MD or dr strange depiction of physicians

>> No.14781736

>>14781646
How come you can't say this stuff in interviews? I feel like admissions officers always want some weird dramatic reason.

>> No.14781930

>>14781736
because everyone says those things. in interviews, you always want to stand out.

>> No.14782222

>>14780404
>nothing is hard
Is there a point to generalizing stuff you know nothing about? It's very obvious there's a difference between the work of a doctor than the work of say, a software engineer. You may underestimate either and see things from a point of view that isn't even your own and say both are piece of cake, but some people are not qualified to do one or the other. In fact, the nature of the work is completely different, in one you must come up with a way to solve something, the other you must literally remember a guideline and your thought process ends at recognizing the problem.

Also, mathematics really isn't easy. It's as simple as to take a look at statistics to understand this. Really can't understand how you don't get it unless you really have some autistic condition.

>> No.14782239

Bros. I fucking hate medicine.

Fuck this job, fuck this work.

>> No.14782244

Do I need organic chem to learn biochem?

>> No.14782312

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A41WX-Xamf4
Ausbros, what the fuck is going on over there?

>> No.14782334

>>14782244
No. You don't even need to learn chem. The only thing about orgo you will need is the definition of a Lewis acid, the way double bonds mix together, cant remember what that was called, and the fact that free radicals will stick to whatever and fuck everything up.

Next biochem is just boring pathways, all of it unimportant, the only key thing is whether an enzyme is affected by a drug or a disease and its consequences.

>> No.14782355

>>14754089
I have a pretty good idea what's between your ears anon.

>> No.14782404

>>14782334
Cheers

>> No.14782476

I'm a med student about one year away from graduating and I just want to say I fucking hate doctors so much.
They're all big ego narcissists. I hope I never end up like this.

>> No.14782489

>>14782476
The fact that you don't think you're a big ego narcissist reeks of grandiosity and a god complex. Stop being a contrarian big ego narcissist.

>> No.14782497
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14782497

shalom, fellow cosmetic surgeons! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A41WX-Xamf4

>> No.14782499

>>14782489
suck my dick, nigger.

>> No.14782500

>>14782312
of course I see this post right after posing mine

>> No.14782511

>>14753236
How come people who don’t have ADHD become addicted to adderall and build up a tolerance but I have taken it daily for 4 years, get the same effect as I did from the same dose on the first day I took it, and am so unattached to it that I can easily forget to take it?

>> No.14782541

>>14782500
lol it is an interesting story.
>mfw that one doctor fled to Israel after getting called out by the media

>> No.14782687

>>14782312
>>14782497
why is a video by 60 minutes australia blocked for australians? fuck this gay country

>> No.14782821

>>14782222
>software engineering
Lmfao that’s how I know you’re a retard, I know what you code monkeys do all day

>> No.14782841

Do large doses of vitamin D call for correspondingly big K2 intakes or does one size fit all?

>> No.14783052

>>14782476
They're not big ego narcissists, they're just sick to death of (you) retarded zoomer students with inflated career dreams

>> No.14783058

>>14781736
They're testing your bullshitting skills for when you're gonna have to bullshit patients to sell a procedure or cover up mistakes

>> No.14783061

>>14771273
I was already a bit racist, but dealing with entitled black patients and drug-seekers didn't help

>> No.14783063

>>14782222
>in one you must come up with a way to solve something, the other you must literally remember a guideline and your thought process ends at recognizing the problem
code monkey cope kek
how come you haven't coded a doctore AI then if it's just recognize->follow protocol

>> No.14783065

>>14782244
what he said >>14782334
you only need to know chemistry if you're going for a pharma degree/job; but knowing chemistry will make studying easier because you'll be able to figure stuff out and the underlying mechanisms rather than just memorizing it

>> No.14783069

>>14782497
>>14782312
>'cosmetic surgeon' is separate from plastic surgeon and doesn't require actual surgeon training
weird model

>> No.14783102

>>14783063
Because an AI can't deal with the social/human part of medicine. That is literally it.

>> No.14783135

>>14783069
GPs here can perform surgery, they call themselves cosmetic surgeons because plastic surgery is a recognised RACS subspecialty.
Most GP surgeons are reasonable in my experience and do a lot of minor procedures. GP-subspecialists are a good way to repel the noctor menace too.

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14783943

I watch 60 Minutes Australia for the qts

>> No.14783949

>>14783052
how bad is it

>> No.14783976

Is 105 IQ enough to be a doctor? Seems like you need at least 110

>> No.14784234

>>14753396
This is all just a soulless hell hole where we slowly watch everything we love and we are powerless to stop it. Well then I want it fucking over with already I want to die too so I can stop missing people

>> No.14784391

>>14783976
What you need is dedication

>> No.14784402

>>14783052
>inflated career dreams
I don't think wanting a job is an inflated career dream but okay

>> No.14784407

>>14783976
asking for yourself or for a friend? EQ matters just as much as IQ in medicine

>> No.14784553

Got Lindsay's (half and half) nails on nearly every finger except my thumbs and left index finger. No liver, kidney or thyroid problems. No other symptoms. Read it could be zinc deficiency, so been taking supplements for a week or so by now.
Am I fucked?

>> No.14784651
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14784651

Is dentistry worth it as a career?

>> No.14784682

>>14783976
Average IQ for physicians is 130. Average college student's IQ is 110.

You could probably do it, but the amount of extra effort you'd have to put in to even pass would be brutal.

>> No.14784834

Is there any network where I can see a large list of companies that sell clinical remnants? I know that there are companies like iSpecimen and Boca Biolistics who do this, but I feel like there have to be hundreds of American companies who do.

>> No.14784841

>>14753236
Egyptian broken bones
Linux MRI

>> No.14784857

>>14784651
Moreso than medicine, actually rewarding, simple job without any of the dogshit culture about hierarchies and modern slavery.

>> No.14784919
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14784919

>>14784857
I’ve recently been considering it over medical school. It actually seems fairly viable given how terrible the average american’s dental hygiene is

>> No.14784947

how safe is cialis

>> No.14785196

How hard is it to get a heart transplant if someone is young, has a family, has a good job that actually provides value to society, and doesn't smoke or drink?'
How close are we to other solutions, like growing hearts in a lab or artificial/mechanical?

>> No.14785216

>>14784919
But you have to look in people's mouths.

>> No.14785256

Clearly the solution to many of your problems is more doctors
More doctors means each doctor isn’t loaded down and slowly burnt out
More docs means a wider range of personalities escaping the issues you have brought up
More doctors means more opinions to diagnose a problem
The downside is less pay
However what are you going to do with the money when you hardly have free time to enjoy it
This whole field needs to be reimagined and I don’t expect it to be
But what you’ve got going on isn’t it

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14785625

Can someone identify what this thing is. Basically it's like a hair follicle or some shit, but it's not really a pimple, it's like a red protruding slim thing. I'm p. sure if I were to cut it off it would bleed and it would scar. I have a few in areas that I shave, but now a new one appeared and it's on my face so need to find out what it is to know to possibly remove it.

>> No.14785707

>>14785256
It's not the doctor's call to hire other doctors.

>> No.14785786

>>14785625
Are you black?

>> No.14785954

>>14785786
white

>> No.14786205

>>14784947
Don't take it with nitrates. May help prevent dementia.

>> No.14786490

>>14763422
Wait five minutes instead, you may be altering the pressure, I made a test for repeated takes and pressure raised to 180/110 from 120/90

>> No.14786774 [DELETED] 

>>14780404
>I came from a mathematics degree
That isn't how it works, sweetheart. You can't use sentences like that and believe people will believe you that you completed some math degree, rather than being filtered out in the first semester. Learn to talk deceptively, if you need it.

>> No.14786849

How the fuck do you nerds work and then come home and talk about work?

>> No.14787021

mad how you're just slaves of the capitalism ssytem designed to keep goy mildly productive for your rulers. greeks, the people who invented the concept of healer, were just a collection of warring ethnostates devoid of foreign parasitic influence who then realized one day that their islands of extremely similar ethnostates were their allies and developed The West.

The only doctors who can be trusted are found in totalitarian anticapitalist systems. A true doctor knows Russian to read their texts. everything in english is basically just yiddish.

>> No.14787025

>>14787021
also Japanese (Unit 731 was the moon landing of medicine x 100) and for modernbois, Chinese. Nobody else advanced medicine. Germans did prior to '45

>> No.14787028

>>14785707
no that's the call of the Semitic man who rules your establishment

>> No.14787033

>>14759440
post country and i i'll rejudge flags
thinking you won't though

>> No.14787179

>>14786849
90% of posts are by pre-meds pretending.

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14787199

>Oi, m8 what's wrong wit ur jaw?

>> No.14787307

My gf is applying to med school right now and has one interview. Assuming she gets in I’ll have to move with her for 4 years + residency if I want to be with her. Can even of you true American med school bros give me the reality of what that’s going to be like? I like her and all but the commitment to stick it out through potentially 10 years of med school is daunting.

>> No.14787430

>>14787307
She'll be studying a bit but should still be able to spend time with you unless she's a retard or an uber gunner.
Depends mainly on how disruptive the move is going to be for your job and family/friends. If you're going to be moving though, you want to be sure she's the right one because that time commitment will land you in marriage/settle down territory.
Also finances etc. are you going to be supporting her with rent/food or is she going to be working part time?

>> No.14787570

>>14787430
Didn’t even think about the financial piece. Idk, her parents have money and she’s industrious.

>> No.14787831

I'm starting to believe that one anon was right that it was adhd not just BED....
>>14783976
IQ is irrelevant. I'm very much proof of that
>>14784391
This anon got it right

>> No.14787844

nords are better than meds

>> No.14788256

>>14786490
I just tried waiting five minutes. First measurement was 132/78, second was 120/74. I don't get it, which is correct?

>> No.14788278

>>14788256
Waited another five minutes and the third reading was 116/74.

>> No.14788285

>>14753784
If you want to claim to be a dropout you're going to end up studying stuff like physio and anatomy
It's painful even if there's a degree at the other side of the tunnel, for you it's going to be excruciating
t. euro med student

>> No.14788298

>>14784919
>>14785216
Looking into people's mouths? bruh that's the least of our problems, or perhaps more accurately, it's a problem for no one after the first year.
The practical, every day problem is mostly the dust that comes shooting from under the bur straight into your eyes and hair etc etc, we are vaxxed for a lot but you can't work without glasses and not expect HCV, HIV etc etc.
As if that wasn't enough, certain materials are irritating, f.e the NaOCl that's used to eradicate bacteria from eptied root canals and man do we breathe that stuff in every day
The second problem is the strain this profession puts on the body, the stationary and sedentary nature combined with having to make a lot of small precise moves makes our back and upper arm muscles tense, trapezius gets obliterated over the years
Also the patients who book a visit, confirm it and then don't come, man do I love wasting half an hour every day!

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14788419

So K2 mk4 and K2 mk7 are two different vitamins and people are fighting over which is better and if the later does anything for bone density? And mk7 doesn't go through the brain barrier???

I just don't want to die prematurely, the fuck...

>> No.14788986

>>14753396
>Academia is a massive clusterfuck and there's very little standardisation
Modern Academia is a joke and the replication crisis fits well with it

>> No.14789100

>>14773441
>>14771015
>ain't no way in hell I am snitching on a fellow practitioner
>And the other guy is right. Why would we snitch on other medics?
Mindsets like this combined with the Covid 'pandemic' have shown me I'm right in never trusting doctors or medical professionals. Simply a brotherhood of pharmashills who are desperate to cling to their degrees and careers at whatever cost

>> No.14789110

>>14789100
report it, faggot

>> No.14789115

>>14789110
No point in reporting it, you're the perfect useful idiots for the system they've wanted to create

>> No.14789120

>>14789115
ESL?

>> No.14789125

>>14789120
ASL* and I'm not telling you

>> No.14789136

What's the point in shitposting in a general just as it's about to die?

>> No.14789149

>>14789136
I found the discussion between medical professionals interesting until it turned in to exactly the kind of 'brotherhood' that would result in the entire global medical establishment pushing an experimental injection on kids

>> No.14789154

>>14789149
I don't see any similarities.

>> No.14789159

>>14789154
The real doctors are the ones that have had their licenses revoked since the beginning of the experimental injections

>> No.14789165

>>14789159
I don't know of any doctor who had his license revoked due to his medical opinion on an experimental injection.

>> No.14789168

>>14789165
That's right, you're a member of the brotherhood. Don't worry about what the real doctors are doing

>> No.14789179

>>14789168
Thank you for conceding on that point. It seems you don't want to discuss the issue at hand and rather shitpost. As such, I see no point in continuing this.

>> No.14789184

>>14789179
Thank you for conceding that you don't know every single doctor, and that you're not totally ignorant that many have had their licenses revoked

>> No.14789190

>>14789184
Some doctors have their licenses revoked. Some doctors are not acting in good faith. If you see medical malpractice, report it, just as I said. That's the best way to counteract this.
If your reports are not taken seriously, start protesting. Be forthright about your goal and cease the shitposting if getting rid of the "medical brotherhood" is your goal.

>> No.14789197

>>14789190
>and cease the shitposting if getting rid of the "medical brotherhood" is your goal.
Where did I say getting rid of it is my goal? I made a post pointing out the type of mindset present in this thread is evidence for the type of mindset that would allow mass experimental injections. If that upsets you that's fine, cops have a brotherhood with each other as well

>> No.14789206

>>14789197
What a silly post.

>> No.14789212

>>14770705
medical malpractice is difficult to prove, you can always sue, but unless someone actually did fuck up properly and left a papertrail, you're tough out of luck. It's not a black an white issue, you can do everything by the books and miss a diagnosis, nobody has infinite resources and things will fall through the cracks. We don't know your mothers clinical history or how she presented at the day she was admitted to the first hospital, it's simply impossible for us to say whether or not a they would've had a reason to rule out infection as an underlying cause for her symptoms.

>> No.14789219

>>14789206
>cops have a brotherhood with each other as well
How does it feel being on par with the people who will cover each others ass over doing what's right?
>I'm not going to advise you on malpractice because that might hurt someone from my brotherhood somewhere, fuck your mother

>> No.14789224

>>14789219
>>I'm not going to advise you on malpractice because that might hurt someone from my brotherhood somewhere
see what I said here
>>14789190
>If you see medical malpractice, report it

>> No.14789233

>>14789224
>>If you see medical malpractice, report it
>hey anons, my mom might have been messed up by malpractice do you think...
>>Third and most important, ain't no way in hell I am snitching on a fellow practitioner that I don't know
k

>> No.14789239

>>14789233
I'm not whoever you're quoting. Should be fairly obvious.

>> No.14789244

>>14789239
>And the other guy is right. Why would we snitch on other medics?
>Third and most important, ain't no way in hell I am snitching on a fellow practitioner that I don't know
Don't worry about this little incident Sheriff, we'll get you home so you can sober up

>> No.14789292

>>14753784
Guyton and Hall physiology, read it start to finish

>> No.14790903

>>14788298
I hadn’t considered that before. Would you still say it’s worth pursuing? I’ve always been interested in medical school after college but after doing some research I’m considering opting for dentistry instead. If my MCAT score’s not up to par I’d probably just try to pursue a DDS instead.

>> No.14791474

>>14769482
Might be late, but thanks again anon. I'll try but I think I'm on my own. Gonna eat well, sleep well, get sun every day, sport and live stress-free and hope I can find help. God willing, I'm lucky enough and it cures before my life is over.