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14753802 No.14753802 [Reply] [Original]

In science, we decide which theory is correct by experiment. We measure a typical ball on a string demonstration and accept that it does 1200 rpm and so COAE is accurate and it does not do 12000 rpm, so COAM is false.

>> No.14753808

>>14753802
>basic school experiment doesnt scale to particle accelerator speeds
Weewoo retard alert

>> No.14753837

>>14753808
Basic school experiment which falsifies about half of all published physics papers.

>> No.14753847

>>14753837
>take two clocks
>send one on train
>measure drift
>its zero
Holy shit i just falsified relativity

>> No.14753869

>>14753847
Spin a ball on a string and pull the string in to reduce the radius and it spins faster because angular energy is conserved and students are still being lied to about that and everyone seems to be afraid to accept the simple fact that it does not do 12000 rpm, so by the scientific method is false.

>> No.14753898

>>14753869
Take your head smash it on the wall. Observe no fusion.

>> No.14753900

>>14753898
Keep your head firmly up your ass retard. That is the new scientific method. We refuse to measure anything which might falsify COAM because … tradition.

>> No.14753904

>>14753802
Do the experiment yourself. Take a video of the spinning string from the top and figure out the radius the ball is spinning from the pixel distance in the video and the known diameter of the ball. This lets you figure out speed vs radius.

If it's the type of experiment where you're pulling the string in order to reduce the radius, the energy will not be conserved but the angular momentum very nearly will. Test your theory if you're going to mouth off about experiment.

>> No.14753905

I've been watching this argument on /sci/ for a while now and I keep wondering why nobody is actually calculating the increased air resistance (gets higher as your speed goes up) and figuring out just how much of a role that plays. Or why nobody is attempting to demonstrate the experiment in a vacuum with as reduced friction as possible.

This has got to be the most easily experimentally demonstrated thing I've seen people spaz about on /sci/ and yet it's always just words words words.

>> No.14753914

>>14753905
It's not "people" it is one person

>> No.14753931

>>14753914
Are you honestly claiming that I am busy insulting myself using fake characters or what?

Delusional retard.

I have presented the measurements and everyone is literally neglecting the evidence like flat earthers and shitting themselves to measure anything and making excuses and insulting me instead.

>> No.14753935

>>14753905
Absolutely.

It has also been independently and blindly confined one experiment that COAE makes accurate predictions.

See the LabRat’s example 2 here : http://www.baur-research.com/Physics/measure.html

Not only do they refuse to perform any experiment unbiased but they refuse to acknowledge that it is literally confirmed by overwhelming independent experimental evidence.

There is not a single counter experiment offered, so the single result is objectively overwhelming.

>> No.14753939

>>14753904
I discovered this through experiment, retard. There is no other way to make a discovery, moron.
My proof is to show that if you actually calculate the prediction for a ball on a string instead of lying to yourself about how much “it spins faster”, the existing establishment example falsifies conservation of angular momentum. Stop being nasty and understand the mistake.

>> No.14753957

>>14753939
You have never done an experiment in your life. You just plugged some numbers into a formula and got completely carried away.

>> No.14753979

>>14753957
No. I discovered through my experimental prototypes that we’re intentionally designed to conserve angular momentum to extremes, that angular momentum is not conserved.
You have never measured conservation of angular momentum in your life you delusional “it spins faster” retard. Now be reasonable or fuck off.

>> No.14754094

I'm in a good mood today everyone. I am caffeinated. I will still call you creeps retards when necessary. But you just don't know how good it feels to have your prostate stimulated. And let me tell you, the talent here in South America is great. COAM may be falsified but I'll tell you what. The cum in my tight asshole is verified.

>> No.14754111

>>14754094
Fuck off you impersonating creep. I do not use my real name on an anonymous forum.
This is literally criminal behavior.
STOP IMPERSONATING ME YOU STINKING PIECE OF SHIT.

>> No.14754125
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>>14754111
You are the one impersonating me sir. I share my name on 4chan all the time when I link to my personal website and my research. You are the one impersonating me. There is nothing wrong with liking your prostate stimulated. If COAM were true I wouldn't have a prostate anymore since the penis would rotate at 12000 rpm. Thank Jesus COAM falsified!

>> No.14754132

>>14754125
Stop impersonating me you fucking psychotic piece of shit. Wtf.
What are you trying to achieve?
You have a serious mental problem, retard.

I WILL NEVER USE MY REAL NAME ON AN ANONYMOUS FORUM.

IF THERE IS ANYONE WHO CAN HELP ME TRACK DOWN WHO THIS PIECE OF SHIT IS, PLEASE HELP?

>> No.14754135

>>14754111
Anonymous people can't be impersonated, you vile turd.

>> No.14754139

>>14754132
Woah, calm down, John.

>> No.14754140

>>14754135
A person who is using my real name and posting personal information about me and pretending that he is me, is impersonating me. Fuckwit.

>> No.14754142

>>14754139
Fuck you you selfish cunt.
You would be squealing like a stuck pig if it happened to you asshole. Go fuck yourself.

>> No.14754143

>>14754140
>I wll never use my real name on an anonymous forum
How come he knows your name then, retard? You probably fake-doxxed yourself to stir shit and throw a pity party for yourself. Schizo.

>> No.14754171

>>14754143
He knows my real name because of my papers you moron. Do you think that it is reasonable scientific behavior to start impersonating the person who’s paper you can’t defeat?

Retard.

>> No.14754191

Someone needs to make a deep-dive video on John. Hell, if I can manage to get some downtime, I'll do it. Keep it coming, John!

>> No.14754195

>>14754132
Sir, please calm down. Your outbursts do not verify COAM. You seem high strung. I highly recommend a prostate massage.

>> No.14754196

>>14754171
>I don't use my real name on anonymous forums
>But I post links to my papers
Are you thick, John?

>> No.14754197

>>14754196
My penis is not very thick. Thankfully I have fat fingers to stimulate other men's anuses.

>> No.14754214

What is the difference between angular momentum and angular energy?

What is this theory about, you make a radius shorter and it loses energy?

John explain in simple steps what you are talking about. What is not conserved? How? Whats with the 12000 number, why not 11,999

>> No.14754280

>>14754214
My argument is detailed in my paper. http://www.baur-research.com/Physics/MPS.pdf

>> No.14754284

>>14754214
A typical example of the demonstration conducted by professor Young can be seen in example 4 : http://www.baur-research.com/Physics/measure.html

>> No.14754288

>>14754280
>>14754284
I don't wanna read all that brother. Just give me the quick jist.

What is the difference in meaning between angular momentum and angular energy?

Is the theory only of conservation in vacuum?

>> No.14754318

>>14754280
>>14754284
Stop impersonating me you glory hog. Glory holes are more fun.

>> No.14754323

>>14753802
See https://youtu.be/vhl__wx18Qg
See >>14751853

>> No.14754329

>>14753869
>>14753898
>>14753914
>>14753905
>>14753904
>>14753957
>>14754171
>>14754280
>>14754284
See https://youtu.be/vhl__wx18Qg
See >>14751853

>> No.14754340

>>14754191
Don't bother. You could provide the perfect video and he won't watch it.
He can't run the risk of something completing that connection in his brain, showing him how wrong he has been for years. He d doesn't have the strength to survive.

>> No.14754379

>>14754288
Fuck off retard. I am not here to teach you basic physics.

>> No.14754382

>>14754323
Are you retarded or something Anon. Presenting the same defeated appeal to tradition logical fallacy argument over and over in circles does not justify neglecting the fact that 12000 rpm objectively falsifies COAM.

>> No.14754390

>>14754382
See https://youtu.be/vhl__wx18Qg [Embed]
See >>14751853

>> No.14754398

>>14753802
>In science, we decide which theory is correct by experiment. We measure the count of marbles in a jar and take some out and the count is conserved and when we do it to dry ice cubes on a hot day it does not conserve count, therefore counting is false. t

>> No.14754404

>>14754382
Is this only in vacuum? Or does air resistance sap the energy?

>> No.14754414

>>14754404
Don't respond to this troll.
The energy is dissipated through the fulcrum by being the opposing force to pulling the string in. If You contain the system, as in a spinning skater pulling their arms in, the angular momentum is conserved because it is contained in the skater's energy system, minus whatever is lost due to friction.

This asshole has been told this a thousand times but continues with these threads because he is a lonely loser who craves attention.

>> No.14754483

>>14754390
Appeal to tradition logical fallacy does not become valid just because you repeat the stupidity enough times, retard. 12000 rpm falsifies COAM. Face reality and stop this idiotic nonsense

>> No.14754485

>>14754483
>See https://youtu.be/vhl__wx18Qg [Embed] [Embed]
>See >>14751853

>> No.14754486

>>14754398
How old are you? Retard

>> No.14754490

>>14754404
A ball on a string demonstration takes place in open air in the wobbling hands of an old professor and physicists have for centuries assumed friction negligible in this demonstration.

>> No.14754495

>>14754414
Fuck you and your ad hominem you disgusting piece of stinky shit.

>> No.14754499

>>14754490
See https://youtu.be/vhl__wx18Qg
See >>14751853

>> No.14754507

>>14754499
Fuck you.
COAM is false.

>> No.14754517

>>14754507
See https://youtu.be/vhl__wx18Qg
See >>14751853

>> No.14754617

>>14754517
COAM is falsified and your logical fallacy is called appeal to tradition. Stop harassing me in fuckjng circles, retard.

>> No.14754746

>>14754617
what logical fallacy? you fail at every turn to point it out.
what appeal to tradition, here too you fail to point it out.
See https://youtu.be/vhl__wx18Qg
See >>14751853

>> No.14754788
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14754788

>>14753802
>In science, we decide which theory is correct by experiment.

WRONG.
The outcome has been predetermined, if you disagree you are a RACIST !

>> No.14754790

>>14754746
Presenting a link to a lecture is appealing to tradition logical fallacy. You have to falsify my maths or accept the conclusion to address my proof.

>> No.14754794

>>14754790
See https://youtu.be/vhl__wx18Qg
See >>14751853

>> No.14754951

Please address me by my pronouns they/them. Thank you.

>> No.14755392

>>14754794
Why does John think what he thinks, are you aware of the steps of his reasoning?

>>14754617
I'm not reading your long ass paper to find a kernal of fruitful information that can be explained in 3 sentences, spill the beans, get to the point, spit it out, just say it, what the fuck are you actually talking about and getting at.

You make a spinning string ball radius tighter, at some point of rpm while increasing rpm, it is no longer physically possible to increase rpm anymore? Or it cannot be maintained at a certain speed? Or the surroundings detect more energy?

In the real world angular momentum is conserved in the system of the world or universe, not nessecarilly the object in question, it loses its angular momentum by friction with air and gravity

>> No.14755403

Hello everyone, John here. I redid the experiment, turns out that angular momentum was being conserved, I was just measuring incorrectly. Sorry for the inconvenience.

>> No.14755455

>>14755392
>Why does John think what he thinks, are you aware of the steps of his reasoning?
His replies lay it all out for all to read. What he says, what he doesn't say, what he ignores, etc.

>> No.14755530

>>14755392
>>14754617
If you make a ball on string radius shorter it will slow down, speed up, or remain the same, and will be effect by how fast and how taugtly you pull the string, but then it may only require a bit of energy in the swinging of wrist or arms to regain fast orbit, but let's say a mechanical robot arm is doing this, it still will need to apply energy, or else it will just fall to the ground. It is like the action of hoola hooping

>> No.14755624

>>14755403
Stop impersonating me creep. I would never admit such horseshit. COAM is falsified. I wish it weren't since I could get more vibrations per minute in my asshole.

>> No.14755832

>>14754790
low iq post

>> No.14755863

>>14755530
>If you make a ball on string radius shorter it will slow down, speed up, or remain the same, and will be effect by how fast and how taugtly you pull the string, but then it may only require a bit of energy in the swinging of wrist or arms to regain fast orbit, but let's say a mechanical robot arm is doing this, it still will need to apply energy, or else it will just fall to the ground. It is like the action of hoola hooping
Respond to this please.

Energy needs to be put into the system to keep it rotating;

When energy is halted from system, what causes the loss of angular momentum?

Gravity?
In vacuum the ball will continue to rotate? Because no gravity or air to recieve it's energy

>> No.14756103

>>14755530
If you perform a ball on a string demonstration, the ball’s speed remains constant as is confirmed independently by the LabRat.

>> No.14756105

>>14755863
>> 14756103

>> No.14756110

>>14755392
My paper is 4 pages long and literally takes 3 minutes to read.
http://www.baur-research.com/Physics/MPS.pdf

>> No.14756125

>>14756110
taking a picture of the angular momentum page and posting it here takes 2 minutes

>> No.14756134

>>14756125
My paper is a proof and posting traditional beliefs does not address a proof.

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>> No.14756159

>>14756154
Retard.
Are you afraid to face the fact that COAM is false?

>> No.14756168

>>14756159
Shut up, transphobe.

>> No.14756172

>>14756168
I am not scared of mental people.

You are scared of the fact that COAM is false.

COAEphobe.

>> No.14756173

>>14756172
Go back to /b/.

>> No.14756177

>>14756173
Fuck you you psychotic veritaphobe.
Face the fact that 12000 rpm falsifies COAM and deal with reality and stop transferring your delusional ideas of your own sexuality.

>> No.14756204

>>14756177
im gonna pull your toenail off you maggot

>> No.14756218

>>14756204
Threats are bad science, faggot.
Face the fact that 12000 rpm objectively falsifies COAM and stop the veritaphobia.

>> No.14756224

>>14756218
When you formally apologize to the trans community, bigot.

>> No.14756229

>>14756224
I am really sorry for the trans community. You poor faggots have self mutilated because of your mental problems. While I am sorry for you, your problems are not my fault. Stop blaming me just because you have issues with truth.

Now face the fact that COAM is false and stop making unrelated demands. Retard.

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14756241

Hey John. Glad you made your own thread to contain yourself. Good to know you yourself know nobody wants to read your emasculated schizobabble.
Have a nice day.

>> No.14756278

>>14756241
STOP THE AD HOMINEM AND ADDRESS THE ARGUMENT YOU DISGUSTING PIECE OF STINKING SHIT.

12000 rpm falsified COAM. Face facts and drop the veritaphobia.