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14715293 No.14715293 [Reply] [Original]

Science is a false thing. The abstract theory of science is not carried out in practice. There is not enough falsification studies, no comprehensive data, etc.

This is because of how dumb humans are. The expression of science is via textbooks and then scientific journals. Both of these have massive flaws and elementary chemistry/science books are full of false realities and jargoned facts. You're all idiots, thanks for listening. The system that expresses science is braindead retard shit.

Everything I have said is fact. In fact 99% of scientific effort is stupid

>> No.14715306

Science will be discarded soon for a functional intelligence model based on extrapolation from AI/brain research etc. Because the model of functional intelligence accounts for practical implementation. Having a brain model with input - function - output models is just better than the dirty disgusting scientific system used today.

Actually it's disgusting scientists are too braindead to realize how bad the current system is.

I think within 5 years a well make functional intelligence system could easily replace and surpass by 10000x all science as expressed now. In fact we see this happening already and you braindead shits are too stupid to realize it

Fuck science, you are literal algae minds.

>> No.14715307

>>14715293
go take an undergrad physics lab course. they make you set up experiments and do them so that you see with your own two eyes that physics shit happens, visibly, in front of your face

the only people who can make your argument are willfully ignorant people who refuse to do a simple thing like that because of their insistence on wrongheaded ideologies like yours or alternately because of their sheer incompetence and inability to perform basic science

>> No.14715310

Think for a second on the useless effort. Actual people making art with sand to blow it away are more useful than science. You are obsolete piles of shit already and the replacement is literal braindead big data shit lmao because you never learned what intelligence even is.

Why are you teaching or learning a random copypasta subject without understanding the most basic things? That is the only explanation for how your mind is so braindead and crystalized to be retarded

>> No.14715312

>>14715307
LOL and yes you can take math lab courses and move around marbles and they add up as predicted, wow must mean math as constructed is useful and correct

>> No.14715320

The point is it will be superceded by something more fundamental and already is. You can take anything in modern "science" and get a better result with a braindead black box model. Lmao so much for science.

Not only this but it will be more accurate, better fundamentals, and actually comprehensive. Do you ever think that intelligence > "science". Science is the absence of intelligence, it's braindead

>> No.14715327

>>14715320
Now just imagine if you appended actual intelligence to science instead of remove intelligence as it is now. Making it a comprehensive system instead of poorly designed via journal publishing lmfao and textbooks for output systems, of course simplified, but it would be a billion times better with an actual intelligence to the system.

Now it is just 50 random journal publishing and meta analysis of it for some vague truth rofllllll, it's not even systemic because it's just individual idiots proposing ad hoc shit at a whim

>> No.14715350

>>14715293
>falsification
babby lern'd a new werd

>> No.14715358

Science is also limited to it's grotesque and failure ridden system of transferring "science". It gives nothing for invention, discovery, and in many ways hinders them.

So you have an antiquated and shit way in practice to transfer results. Which is not even systematic and pretty much much popular opinion. Yes, science is beyond worm-like.

At best it is a system of publishing and people are so brain rotten that you can have a hundred million people practicing it and no one improving the system itself because it's more deified than religion to them.

The case of massive fundamental research into Alzheimer's being fraud is just fucking lol. Everyone in the system is a braindead monkey and not realizing they are on a cliff getting pushed down as science is surpassed

>> No.14715359

>>14715350
Science is dead. Get over it. Move on. Realize it is a casket holding old carcass meat. 100% truth

>> No.14715369

>>14715359
>Science is dead.
>Get over it.
>Move on.
Bumper-sticker reasoning much?

>> No.14715371

Science is that one function for transferring some things kinda that was good in it's time. It's obsolete

As a system for invention it fails
It was useful for taking worms and making them slither a little better towards warmth

As soon as you discard and iterate on it you will see the light. It's time for science to die.

>> No.14715372

>>14715369
No everyone who constructed science as alpha and Omega when it's a shitty basic function that is flawed is brainfucked and might be improved by hitting their heads on bumpers a few hours a day

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>>14715320
This is literally the path we were heading before the "reformation" though. We're in this mess because of evil forces and genuinely bad people like Francis Bacon. You simply can't get through to normies anymore the fact that you can't separate observer and observed on a fundamental level with the empirical/scientific method.

>> No.14715379

Yes, and intelligence itself is coming to turn the lights off of science once and for all

>> No.14715383

>>14715372
>alpha and Omega
>a shitty basic function
wat

>> No.14715388

>>14715320
Forgot to add, pic related >>14715374 is the kind of retarded nonsense that got us here, from studying the grammar of reality to treating soil samples like Truth itself

>> No.14715397

>>14715383
If you have a flying brain it can make sense. Science has all this effort under it's yoke and no one wondering what they are pulling

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>>14715374
>>14715388

>> No.14715404

>>14715397
>a flying brain
wat
>Science has all this effort under it's yoke
WAT

>> No.14715411

>>14715404
If you can think. Why not think about what science is. What space it occupies, what exists around this space, different systems, how it is expressed, etc.

If you could think you would understand

>> No.14715438

>>14715411
>If you can think.
>If you could think
Think about the meaning of "flying brain", and of "it's yoke", and get back to me.

>> No.14715446

>>14715438
It's not fun. It's more fun and humorous to think of science and humans

>> No.14715473

Let's take the definition of science as the basis / DNA

Let's take the result in the world as the expression or outcome

Yes, you can focus on the expressions and implementations to fix "science" again just a name. You can even keep the name to make the worms happy with it.

The idea the DNA is perfect but expression isn't is false. So yes, science is really quite shit. The expression is extremely shit and infested with parasitical exploits.

Being on the side of science is for fools. It will absolutely not survive. It is a religion and needs to be crushed for more advancement and will be crushed.

>> No.14715561

>>14715473
You have nothing better or even close to as good. Your whining is pointless. You sound like a schizo who can't cope with scientific facts. Which ones hurt your feefees?

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14715582

>>14715561
Oy vey

>> No.14715593

>>14715582
>Newton made up Gravity
>they made up Dark Energy
>they made up Dark Matter
Where would you be without the elementary-school phrase "made up"?

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>>14715593
I don't listen to soientist scum.

>> No.14715615

>>14715607
>I prefer 4chan memes instead.

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>>14715615
Correct, enjoy your boosters and remember to get the faggot science juice to protect yourself from monkeypox, soi boy.

>> No.14715642

>>14715636
What-everrr, trollface faggot.

>> No.14715644
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>>14715636
It's totally contracting in the direction of motion you guys, there's no wavelength contraction along the transverse path that could possibly affect the phase or anything.

>> No.14715660

>>14715615
>i hate 4chan memes
why are you here?

>> No.14715691

>>14715660
...as opposed to what else?

>> No.14715693

>>14715561
>Scientific facts
Lmao

>> No.14715704

>>14715693
>Lmao like a Fifteenth-Century peasant

>> No.14715707

>>14715693
Let's break it down. Try x, maybe lie if it works, it gets published, maybe half checked if lucky, it's now "science" right?

So what part of science was responsible for the work? None. At most science just transmits the result through a terrible process full of fraud and parasite fees.

Yes, some engineers developed new ways to get better experimental data. Eventually the cogs align and enough people agree and then it becomes a big religious ceremony to award science the medal

>> No.14715713

>>14715707
Now if science was a process that created the discoveries it might have merit. At most it is an arcane religion that hides behind actual progress to take credit for it. If it was a real thing it would not allow 99% fraud, reproducibility isn't even the baseline to become science. It's rotten and incomplete

>> No.14715714

>>14715707
>fraud and parasite fees.
>a big religious ceremony
cynical mistrust fiction much?

>> No.14715716

>>14715714
"Science" is a constraint, a cage. It needs to be destroyed for new systems of advancement

>> No.14715720

>>14715716
>"Science" is a constraint, a cage.
The word "science" is derived from the Latin for "knowledge".
Lrn2science fgt pls

>> No.14715725

>>14715293
OP, go outside. I get you think women and niggers are scary but this lifestyle obviously isnt doing you any good

>> No.14715729

>>14715293
>99% of scientific effort is stupid
99% of your statistics are fake

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14715735

Oh great we have another Mandlbaur on our hands

>> No.14715974

Here is the twofold failure of science. It did not eradicate the bad scientists. Those who are malicious and those who are incompetent. The penalty for bad science should have been recycling into compost. Unfortunately this did not happen. Then the other failure was not turning the stupid into compost. The world could otherwise have been populated only by scientifically literate people possessing a profound respect for the scientific method.
As a result of this failure the world is now going to descend into a new dark age. Perhaps next Renaissance the scientists will be smarter, seize political and economic power, and make sure civilization is never again threatened by the malicious, the incompetent, and the stupid.

>> No.14715977

>>14715974
This is the stupid part. Thinking the scientific method is responsible for everything and totally perfect. Science as religion

>> No.14716336

>>14715977
t. compost

>> No.14718066

how are you posting on 4 chan right now you fucking retard? science built computers and the infrastructure necessary to feed and clothe an anencaphalic dipshit like you

>> No.14718097

>>14718066
no it didn't, science did none of that. scientists steadfastly refuse to perform useful labor

>> No.14718402

>>14715582
That picture is retarded on multiple levels; for example, the concept of dark matter predates the idea of dark energy by more than a century. Its fine to criticize modern science, but you need to understand what it is claiming in the first place to make any critique that is useful. If you can't even get basic timeline stuff right, how do you expect anyone to take you seriously?

>> No.14718413

>>14715293
Yeah that's cool and all. Where'd you get that awesome fabric?

>> No.14718733

>>14715307
Yes, except for an experiment of conservation of angular momentum. That you are not allowed to measure because it falsifies COAM. You have to accept the lie that “it spins faster because of COAM”.

>> No.14718738

>>14715312
Nope. Sometimes the marbles don’t add up. Like a ball on a string demonstration of conservation of angular momentum. If you measure it, it falsifies COAM. So the scientists solution is. Don’t measure it.

>> No.14718783

>>14715735
There is only one person capable of acknowledging that 12000 rpm objectively falsifies coam apparently because everyone else would rather abandon rationality, like you do, than face simple obvious facts.

>> No.14718786

>>14715735
Also, I love science. That is why I try to fix the stupid mistake in it. Despite the irrational animosity that I face from closed minded assholes like you who defend science from the truth.

>> No.14718832

>>14718733
>>14718738
>>14718783
see >>14715582

>> No.14718841

>>14718832
Fuck off you fucking mute moron.

>> No.14718844

>>14718841
Do you not agree?

>> No.14718848

>>14718786
String Theory makes many promising predictions and gave us a lot of very interesting data. We are undoubtedly on the right path. Our current goal should be to create a new theory that includes aspects from LQG and String Theory.

>> No.14718855

>>14718844
Not at all. Newton invented and defined angular momentum and then claimed as was popular at the time, that it is conserved. To prove this he showed them that a ball on a string “spins faster”. Everyone believed it without question. Then it was discovered that our calculations show much more energy than exists, so we invented “dark matter/energy” to excuse the discrepancy instead of accepting that if the prediction does not match reality, the theory is wrong. Ie: we have imagined that the theory is right and reality is wrong.

>> No.14718857

>>14718848
String theory has never predicted anything realistic at all, ever. Stop deluding yourself with wishful thinking nonsense.

>> No.14718859

>>14718857
You don't know shit about string theory

>> No.14718862

>>14718859
I know that it has never made any useful predictions at all and that this is a very good reason to reject it entirely as a bad theory because that is how the scientific method deals with theory that makes bad predictions.

>> No.14718864

>>14715293
>Science is not real
>Just ignore all the things around me invented as a result of science

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>>14718862
You’re a complete parrot. You "hate" string theory because you associate it with an obscene caricature that lives rent-free in your minuscule head. Try learning something on your own instead of reading Sabine PopSci books and repeating mindlessly.
AdS/CFT shows that string theory and QFT are so connected to one another that they are basically the same thing, and even in experimental particle physics, there have been string techniques applied for making predictions (QGP and others). The fact is that if you are studying QCD or the standard model (real physics) it has been demonstrated that string theory has a real connection. Just because two theories are dual to one another does not mean the simpler one is real and the more complicated one is vetoed by Popper shit. mathematically there are real connections and that opens a whole 'nother toolkit for making experimental predictions. Just because you and some internet bloggers don’t appreciate that this connection is there doesn’t mean all the top experts are wrong and the whole study of this new toolbox should stop. On the contrary, buttblasted bloggers like you should be a prime example of how self-identified “smart internet commentators” can be completely ignorant of obvious things that show how ST is definitely opening new doors even on “ordinary” physics

>> No.14718868

>>14718864
Except that engineers don’t use science. They just imagine that they do, but they abandon science the moment it makes false predictions, like conservation of angular momentum, engineering equations contradict COAM but engineers are deluded.

>> No.14718873

>>14718866
Personal attack is not scientific asshole. Face the fact that string theory is bullshit. I hate bullshit.

>> No.14718876

>>14718873
read the post again
>>14718866
>AdS/CFT shows that string theory and QFT are so connected to one another that they are basically the same thing, and even in experimental particle physics, there have been string techniques applied for making predictions (QGP and others). The fact is that if you are studying QCD or the standard model (real physics) it has been demonstrated that string theory has a real connection. Just because two theories are dual to one another does not mean the simpler one is real and the more complicated one is vetoed by Popper shit. mathematically there are real connections and that opens a whole 'nother toolkit for making experimental predictions.

AdS/CFT basically shows that string theory is right. Cry harder.