/sci/ - Science & Math

Forgot to wait for staging.
A piece of dragon suspected to be from the crew-1 mission landed in an australian farm:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-29/space-junk-found-in-nsw-snowy-mountains-paddocks-/101277542

>>14712429
>"There could even be issues with it damaging the ozone layer, so we need to do more research in this area."
what

>>14712433
People will say anything for the sake of shitting on SpaceX and Elon Musk, no matter how retarded it is.

I think it’s pretty understated how superior the US space industry has become this decade from our private sector.
We will have TWO super heavy lift rockets, we will soon have 5+ reusable medium-heavy lift rockets (falcon 9, new Glenn, Terran R, Starship, Neutron)

No other country has fielded reusable rockets, which will make interplanetary exploration incredibly expensive

China won’t have a starship clone until 2035, Russia might not even have a space industry then

Russia is pulling out from the ISS meanwhile the US has 4 different space stations under construction, Axioms first module is almost halfway to completion

We will soon have five crew rated space vehicles by the middle of the decade, 8 if Neutron, Terran R and New Glenn get crew rating

What the fuck went so right? America stagnated for so long, now starship alone will make entire space programs obsolete . JAXA and ESA don’t have a starship like reusable rocket planned until the 2040s

>>14712429
It's a fucking emu

>>14712443
Key driver is Musk/SpaceX. He saw a small opportunity and had a large dream.

the space station freedom hangars look like somebody sent up some shipping containers in the payload bay

>>14712443
An entire generation that grew up watching the shuttle and wondering "why aren't we doing anything more than this?"

Also, and perhaps the most important part about all this, is that none of the companies driving the new designs are defense contractors. I'd be thinking long and hard about why they can't seem to get anything done in the timescale and budget the new guys can.

>>14712448
>>14712443
Riding on SpaceX's success really. Just like the others in EV space are riding on Tesla's successes.

>>14712443
>JAXA and ESA don’t have a starship like reusable rocket planned until the 2040s
The utter lack of ambition is really incredible. You have dozens of countries capable of doing great and extraordinary things in the space industry with their basically unlimited resources yet they do nothing. Thank goodness Musk was born, a single autist humiliating all the other space agencies combined, frankly quite embarrassing.

>>14712443
1) Private companies can source screwdrivers that dont cost $5000 each
2) Private companies can avoid the worse of diversity hires.
3) Private companies dont half their workforce comprised of Chinese spies.
4) Private companies have CEOs not administrators
5) Private companies have little or no public accountability.

Why do some galaxies have spiral structures and other do not ( like they are just big dlobs of stars)?

>>14712540
>1) Private companies can source screwdrivers that dont cost $5000 each
Reminder of that time NASA was building the hydrogen sparklers for the Shuttle
https://hall.spacewalkoffame.org/workers/j-harvey-leblanc
>The engine supplier said to correct the problem would require changes to the start sequence and very extensive testing to certify that it was safe. Total cost to NASA was going to be a little over $9 million!!
>Shortly after this I was doing fireworks with my son Jason on a 4th of July when I got this brilliant idea. I needed a device to shoot sparks which would burn the hydrogen at the exit of the engine nozzle during start. This would keep the hydrogen from forming a large cloud and therefore prevent the explosion from occurring.
>Next day I went to work and called Disneyland to find out the name of their pyrotechnic supplier for their nightly shows. I called the company and explained to them that I needed a device that would shoot sparks about 30 feet at a temperature of 1200 degrees. They told me…no problem, they made that kind of sparkler for the movie industry all the time. The salesman told me that they sold for $9.85 each!!
>I should mention however, NASA would not certify my supplier to produce the $9.85 sparklers and the new supplier selected provides the same basic item for about $1200 each…… but they can meet all the required NASA specs!!!

>>14712554
God spun some of 'em but he missed a lot

>>14712554
This is one of the questions dark matter was invented as an answer for

>>14712540
>Private companies can source screwdrivers that dont cost $5000 each
Private companies can exist without being made to serve a secondary role as an accounting smokescreen for government black projects, you mean

DOD SDA chart

>>14712576
Why do you hate good paying union jobs?

>>14712587
I wonder when they decided to pivot to megaconstellations in response to ASAT capability

>>14712593
After Biden gets removed and we get a new president. Current political leadership does not like Musk and its stalling everything.

>>14712587
none of this will ever happen because congress won't fund SDA

>>14712554
The spiral ones have not had their inertia harvested by a certain Kardashev type 3 civilization.

Yet.

It is time

>>14712517
>be aspie
>be rich
>single handedly push humanity into a new space age

>>14712429
Australian monolith

>>14712607
>be aspie
>single handedly push humanity into a new space age
>become rich

>>14712517
Really highlights the power of the uniqueness of individuality. Einstein, newton, all other great figures and champions of science and invention and human history. There has been enough examples it should come as no surprise the extra ordinary powers of the specially unique individual

If Russia didn't chimp out SpaceX might have failed.

What’s the best subject to study to work in the space industry? I started with the goal of aerospace engineering but using solidworks made me want to kms. Computer science maybe?

>>14712699
Electrical engineering to design all the specialized pcbs

>>14712699
Even if you go in CS you'll need a ton of experience before qualifying for a space job, EE seems easier from the job listings I've seen

>We received many qualified applicants and have decided to move ahead with another candidate who we feel is a better match for this particular position.

>>14712699
>What’s the best subject to study to work in the space industry?
Anything dealing with advanced metallurgy

>>14712716
I can get the experience, I’m about to enlist in the space force so that should help too

Found a Chinese space-focused YouTube channel run by a white dude.
> https://youtu.be/aD8FNTtVQ3o

>>14712732
>white dude
>Dongfang hour

>>14712735
Look at him he’s a cracker. I respect CNSA a little but I hate paid Chinese shills or just Chinese shills in general

>>14712740
He's got a hafu face

>>14712747
Based on what?

>>14712742
Homie is obsessed with being pro-China and he doesnt appear to have an an accent. What’s his problem?

>>14712747
>in a few years

>>14712747
cringe

>>14712732
Must be what the chinks call "white monkeys"

>>14712751
Dude is definitely getting paid.

>>14712443
>>14712517
If I might post some eurocpe. America is the largest functioning country, very wealthy, tons of space, and enough motivated people to get it done. No European country on its own could mach any of that, they're all just too small. Even now that we're working together, ESA is a convoluted and inefficient mess. I wish it were different but I don't know how Euro countries would be able to work together in a better way.

Post-war Europe was quite late to rocketry as well, with most smaller countries never even developing their own ballistic missiles, let alone anything bigger beyond those. So you end up with France doing most of the work and everyone else supplying some parts. That's just not going to match what you guys can do ever there. There are some new space companies here now though, thankfully. Looking at my own tiny country, I can't imagine someone setting up some sort of Starbase here, simply the lack of space would make it near impossible, and there would be nowhere to launch from.
I hope companies like RFA do well and I hope to be able to see them launch from Norway or Scotland in the future.

(sorry for bad english)

I rewatched Avatar a few days ago for the first time since I saw it in theaters. (I miss abatab). Anyway. They use a shuttle-derived spacecraft in the movie to get people and supplies from their larger craft that stays in orbit. We all know they did this because in every normies brain: space shuttle = space ship. Hence why we still keep seeing movies set in the future where the space shuttle is still being used. Anyway, I am mentioning this because afterward I watched the trailer and noticed that the main antagonist from the first movie is back in an Avatar body. I'm mentioning all this because I am willing to bet money on the sequel using a vehicle reminiscent of Starship to transport the mercenaries that work for the company down to the planet because of the military's interest in using Starship to transport soldiers and the first movie being explicitly anti-American Colonialism, as well as being anti-commercialization of space, and I suspect (based on nothing) that Cameron prolly doesn't like Musk.

>>14712796
Avatar was made in 2009 about anti-American/anti-colonialism/anti-corporations/etc. Its the typical hollywood brainwashing propaganda movie.

>>14712796
Colonialism is wrong and America is Satan. SpaceX is the only good thing to come out of this shithole I live in.

>>14712801
>>14712796
Avatar sucked ass but it’s message isn’t that bad. Think of all the useless wars the US started for its own interests that got innocent people killed (Vietnam, Iraq, etc.). Or all the shitty companies in the US that abuse people for profit (Amazon, Big Pharma). And of course it’s an allegory for native Americans, who got dealt a pretty shite hand by the US government over the years. A good American is one who realizes that their country has done some fucked up things before. I’d argue we’re only marginally better than China or Russia.

Opinion on Soyuz-2?

>>14712748
On Moon

>>14712747
ngl I look forward to seeing a lunar base being built
I wonder how they'll cope with all the lunar dust

>>14712829
They will run low currents on the outside of space suits and shit that will repel the static charge of the lunar dust

>>14712443
Yeah, SpaceX saved spaceflight and US has better private business opportunity. Without Elon you would be just as awful as we are now.
But I'm cautiously optimistic about this decade for European spaceflight (not so much for Russian)

There are at least 11 different launch vehicle start-ups (excluding Arianespace and Avio) all over Europe with fist flights scheduled around 2023-2025
about half of them are planned to be reusable (the other half are Astra-tier tiny rockets to begin with)
after that there will be next round with medium launchers and crew modules

does this mean we will have 11 different operating launch vehicles? certainly not
but if we eventually have 3 companies that are European equivalent of SpaceX, BO and Rocketlab, in addition to Arianespace, that's more than enough

calling Axiom American is kinda funny, given the fact the modules are made by Thales Alenia

>>14712858
Europe just doesn't have the the benefits the US has in regards to spaceflight. Bad geographic location, much harder to gather resources and competence in one place because of individual countries with their own interests and a rather lacking history in rocketry.

I expect we will only see one or two micro launchers launching from northern Europe at best.

>>14712885
We're not that far from giving zero fucks about dropping spent stages on Russia.

>>14712885
Europe has French Guiana, which is almost the perfect launch location. It also has the means to succeed in space exploration. We have both (heavy lift) launch providers like Ariane, manufacturers of station modules and many other companies making satellites.
It's not like Europe can't afford a decent space program, because it can, but there's just no desire to do anything.

Does NSF bot their view count? The main channel as 1.1k viewers at 5 AM Texas time and nothing per the bar is going to happen until Wednesday at a minimum. It's literally just bright lights on static machinery in the dark.

>>14712443
>>14712448
>>14712858
>>14712885
stop

>>14712973
stop talking about spaceflight?

>>14712967
bugs are watching to copy everything

>>14712429
probably not the launch angles don't add up. China or India would be better launch windows for droping shit on Australia.

>>14712967
Why did people stop watching Labpadre he only gets like 2 views now :(

>>14712717
I am sorry, anon. Where did you try? How was it?

>>14712732
>found the dongfang hour now and is bitching about it
Have you also heard about Main Engine CutOff?

>>14712852
I think regardless of magnetism etc. they will have to employ some heavy duty foam or other gunk to get this shit out of various construction joints like airlocks etc. Everything mechanically functional sitting outside will have to be shat on with some gel or whatnot to seal it when not used.

>>14712789
We will make it into space, eurobro.... don't lose hope

>>14712925
French Guiana has little going for it besides it being a good launch location. It's a fucking djungle across the fucking Atlantic.

>>14713054
And that is exactly what makes it perfect. What's your point? Launching straight from the middle of Lisboa to save on workplace commute time?

>>14713057
Are you retarded? You want all the production as close as possible to the fucking launch site. Now you have all the production in central Europe, then that shit needs to be shipped to Northern Sweden or French Guiana for testing, then it needs to be shipped back and do it all over again until the rocket is finished. It completely fucking kills the iteration speed. What would take Space X at Boca Chica a few days to do would take literal fucking months in Europe.

>>14713069
What's your plan for solving it? There's literally nowhere that they can go that has the same characteristics as French Guiana. Unless you want to literally launch from mainland Europe, there's no easy way of solving that problem. You can also take the Açorespill, but it's not much of an improvement over Kourou.
You are not getting a good launch site out of Sweden. It's just not happening.

>>14713076
I mean launching from Spain over Mediterranean or from Bulgaria/Romania over Black sea would be ok
it's still better latitude than Baikonur

I'm sure there's a viable spot somewhere along the coast

>>14713076
I'm saying French Guiana literally got nothing going for it other than being a good launch location. It being better than launching from Europe is not saying much when Europe is literally the single worst launch location on Earth.

French Guiana is not some massive plus that gives Europe an advantage. It only makes Europe able to launch shit at all. It's a djungle in buttfuck nowhere there neither industries nor the eggheads making the rockets wants to move to.

>>14712852
everything apart from space suits
just think about the plumbing in >>14712747
>>14713041
exactly

>>14713089
The technology used on the future spacesuits can be used elsewhere.

>>14713083
>Bulgaria/Romania
Dumitru quite literally tried to even test in the ocean and could not due to orks shitting the whole thing. That route will be very difficult before the region is stabilized.
Spain would be the next best, but even then it's not good for the correct inclinations that are good for launchers. With how the average european is stupid about rockets, you can be sure that they are not ever allowing you to even think near their precious beaches.
>>14713088
I 100% agree, but then again, what's the alternative? Europe is not behind due to things taking a few more weeks to do stuff. Even if the entire industry was relocated to Kourou it would not improve things on that regard.

>>14713088
>It's a djungle in buttfuck nowhere
And what is Starbase? With good funding, you can build a proper infrastructure literally anywhere and pay people to move there.

>>14713009
That's what I am wondering as well. I chalk it up to better SEO on NSF's end. I feel bad for the guy. It must have cost a fortune and still does to keep his equipment going.

>>14712112
in what way is his propulsively landing rocket suboptimal

>>14712732
filthy frank

>>14712747
he is not our guy

>>14713095
there are also plans to build spaceport on Azores or Canaries
but that idea has almost all the disadvantages of both Kourou and continental spaceport at the same time

>before the region is stabilised
now that you mention it, Black sea spaceport would be also easily accessible from/to Dnipro by a barge that can carry even superheavy rockets
if EU wants to be rebuilding Ukraine after the war, that's an excellent investment opportunity right there

Germany could build a Starship in a year if it really wanted to

>>14713098
You're fucking retarded if you think Starbase is fucking comparable.

Literally what the fuck was that Livestream? After the launch it said SpaceX update after some crypto bullshit.. That's fine I guess, I can wait. I check in 10 minutes later, crypto bullshit. 30 minutes later, crypto bullshit. 2.5 hours later, same crypto bullshit. It's like they were going in fucking circles trying to pump Bitcoin, where was the update?
>Inb4 scam
Seems that way

>>14713125
if they put some hundred billions of euros into it, sure.

>>14713164
You're such a retard.

>>14713164

>>14713125
Agree, if by Starship you mean a reusable vehicle and at least five years, not one.

>>14713172
>>14713168
m8s I'm a casual viewer, pls be nice. I didn't know what was happening. What was that about?

>>14713182(You)
>mfw it's still going
>Same shit
Ok, perhaps I am retarded. But I didn't know what it was about at first. Guess it's just SoaceX bait for their crypto call garbage. gg

show me a pic from (you)r technology folder

>>14713182
>>14713185
Whatever you watched was a crypto shill stream pretending to be a SpaceX official account. There are countless channels like this on YouTube.

Watch:
Marcus House
CSI Starbase
NASA Spaceflight
And the official SpaceX channel.

You watched a stream on some channel owned by some Prajeet shilling to retards.

>>14713185
>>14713190
And should be unable to find the official account, here:

https://youtube.com/c/SpaceX

>>14713164
>>14713182
>>14713185
grim

>>14713189

What book to use if I want to learn orbital launch mechanics from scratch (delta-v, equatorial/polar launches, geostationary orbit, slingshotting)?

>>14713206
based plane, here's one of my favourites. It's small size and lack of cockpit make it extremely stealthy

>>14713194
I wouldn't blame OP too much for being a retard. Typing SpaceX into Youtube gives lots of random people shitting out videos to get to the top of the search list (note how everyone has uploaded <24 hours ago). You have to scroll down a bit to get to the actual SpaceX channel, which has a pretty nondescript bland black-and-white logo.

>>14713210
Unironically lurk moar, or play KSP.

>>14713213
plussy

>>14713189

>>14713164
>he clicked on an indian scam stream and thought it was real
Maybe you should disconnect your internet before you send all of your money to an email.

How long do you think until the tower is stacked? How long until a starship is built at LC-39?

>>14713267
1. 2 months
2. About a year

>>14713213
ah yes, the flying stingray
>>14713240
lewd

>This is huge.
>Dominique Reynié: "We found that Gazprom funded environmental NGOs that provided ministers to various governments, such as Belgium, which then advocated abandoning nuclear power".
https://twitter.com/ziontree/status/1497998920739274757
The nuke-hating solarfag is a Russian shill

>>14713213
>It's
its*

>>14713267
I have a theory that electromagnets installed on the tower arms will aid the starship during the catching maouvre

>>14713294
It should have been obvious to anyone. They have never cared for the environment. Same shit happened in California and Germany. Phase out nuclear and pretend to be green by burning coal/oil/russian gas.

>>14713294
hydrocarbon companies have conspired against nuclear since the 70s.

>>14712433
>>14712439
He's an Aussie farmer, they aren't known for their scientific literacy.
t. Aussie

Do you know when will they release the next batch JWST photos?
I even checked the website for scientists, but there's nothing there.

>>14713294
Gazprom was funding the anti-fracking movement here in the America. Not a big surprise that they'd be planting moles in the worthless EU bureaucracy.

>>14713304
they're reduced to burning fucking lignite in Germany. if all they had was peat no doubt they'd be burning that lol

>>14713325
The worst is the fact that gas storage tanks are owned by a fucking gazprom. People who allowed this should be hanged.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martian_Moons_eXploration_(MMX)
I hope the 'blasted off Mars' idea is wrong and that theres water in the moons

More money should be invested in nuclear reactors and in permanent nuclear waste storage facilities

>>14713224
>scroll down a bit
The official channel appears at position 21
A fake scam Space X appears at position 5
picrel: at least they explain how they provide the best results.

Sentinel-1B is dead
Sentinel-1C is launching in the first half of 2023

>>14713346
Youtube know what it is doing and how to recommend the actual relevant channels. But for some reason they are incentivizing these small "creators", I haven't quite figured it out yet.

wew

>>14713294
>A fossil fuel company lobbies against other energy sources thus someone I have an unhealthy autistic obsession with is a shill
Kill yourself already.

>uncontrolled chink junk deorbit
>again
When will the chinks learn to make reignitable third stages?

They stick to a single burn of the core stage because they can't risk a failed reignition.

>>14713361
>no denial
noted

>>14713368
/pol/ called it american propaganda, way too many shills to discuss anything like this anymore

>>14713361
>Anon used DOWNPLAY!
>It's not very effective...

>>14713368
There is literally zero incentive for them to give a shit about where their space junk lands. For that matter, this also applies to everyone else.

>>14713368
>please follow MY rules while conducting military activities in space
The new cold war is approaching, why would they give a single fuck about some space junk?

>>14713372
How can it be propaganda? It has happened before. And it keeps happening.

>>1471336
>>1471337
>AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH THE RUSSIANS ARE PAYING PEOPLE TO COME INTO /SFG/ AND SAY THAT NUCLEAR ENERGY IS EXPENSIVE SOMEONE STOP THEM

>>14713375
Because its falling down and it wont burn completely due to its massive size.

Reminder that the chinkprogress launch also rained junk over Europe a few weeks ago.

>>14713368
I feel like everyone is hoping it lands on a Chinese city

>>14713368
That's what Long March 5 uses though? Only reason it uses 5B is because it's cheaper for LEO payloads.

>>14713375
Because if the last CZ-5B had reentered ten minutes earlier it would have dumped its wreckage over NYC instead of the Ivory Coast

>>14713372
>/pol/ called it
you have to go back

>>14713390
>Because its falling down and it wont burn completely due to its massive size.
I mean obviously, but the chance of that affecting them is low, so they don't care.

>>14713398
Maybe that one can't lift an entire CSS module.

>>14713405
>>14713372
I will never understand why /pol/ shills china

>>14713403
>it would have dumped its wreckage over NYC instead of the Ivory Coast
Sounds fun.

>>14713417
Same reason they post about the latest movies and other crap, they're shills.

>>14713417
That shithole is filled with bots. The rest are retards stupid enough to believe those bots.

>>14713407
Well the last one literally flew over my house.

https://www.wsj.com/video/video-chinese-rocket-debris-lights-up-sky-over-spain/657201F1-0DD0-453F-BF8A-FB674D501284.html

Ares I

>>14713426
This shit looks so fucking cool.

>>14713422
For us, yes. For Beijing, possibly not. The odds of it landing on someone who can lodge meaningful complaints are low, but it does undermine the good international partner that they're trying to meme into existence.

>>14712925
Eurofaggots can't even afford to heat their water anymore, all of their former wealth has been stolen from them and wasted on importing diversity, Europe is economically on par with South American.
Two centuries ago, Europe ruled the world and now they are a powerless, impoverished, overrun backwater. Retards still express idiotic admiration for those losers. There hasn't been any intellectually sound people in Europe for ages, all of those genes which made Europe a powerhouse centuries ago have long since been bred out of the European gene pool. The Europeans of today have no relationship to the admired Europeans of old. Modern Europe inherited tremendous wealth and potential from their ancestors and they wasted and squandered every last bit.

>>14712429
I like how it's all fuzzy from the ripped carbon fiber sheets. And it landed standing up like that? Kino.

>>14713445
>all of those genes which made Europe a powerhouse centuries ago have long since been bred out
some of the most intelligent people just moved to the US. The problem is that the US is even more a melting pot than Europe

Artemis

>>14713445
>a powerless, impoverished, overrun backwater
Americna education, lmao

>>14713453
The US survives because it’s a melting pot. Elon and Von Braun (but mostly Elon) could never have been successful in any other country but the US. A lot of the best immigrants on the planet go to the US, and not Europe, because Europe is a shithole. I know it’s a complex issue because a lot of immigrants going to Europe aren’t necessarily bad, and a lot going to the US aren’t “good”, but the US is seen as the land of opportunity. This is not a coincidence. Also my family immigrated to the US from South America 25 years ago so I’ll always shill the US over stupid fucking Yurop

>>14713464
So a beaner is the euro-hating anon? Curious.

Artemis more like Fartemis lmao

>>14713417
Retarded contrarianism, also a psyop led by Russia/China. They want to destabilize America politically by convincing your average American that America is evil. Works pretty good so far.

>>14712445
If it was an emu, the country would have surrendered to it.

>>14712419
Anybody have the baldy edit of this?

what are the starship propellant tank pressures and what effect do they have on engine performance

>>14713426
>Well the last one literally flew over my house.
Don't worry, there's a higher chance that you will die in a car accident, rather than hit by a rocket.

>>14713464
So funny how swarthoids attribute the US' success to diversity when it was only due to European immigrants. It's like how Pakis in the UK will say Britons aren't an ethnic group even though their ancestors all belonged to tribes native to NW Europe. You aren't needed or wanted

>>14712789
>"Europe has declined from 38% of the world's economy to 24%, Whilst the US has remained a stable quarter."

-Whatifafthist

>>14713468
Different dude I actually like Europe I just am patriotic for the US.

>>14713491
What country are you from?

>>14713076
Of course we know how Russia and China solved the problem: by being wide enough to just launch over their low-population peasant areas, and not give a fuck.

>>14712498
It’s not even that there was nothing good about the shuttle. It would have been fine as a stepping stone but not as the lid on the coffin of progress in spaceflight

>>14712751
He wants a niche he can dominate on YouTube. There are thousands of channels focused on SpaceX. If he made yet another SpaceX channel, he'd struggle to get a couple dozen of views. At least in this niche, he has a chance of the top channel in that subject. And as others have mentioned, he's probably receiving "gratitude payments" from someone associated with the Chinese government.

>>14713460
displaying your envy and jealously of people from more successful nations, envy and jealousy that was forced on you by the incompetence and idiocy of your father's generation, your grandfathers', his father's etc. for 150 or so years. None of the genetics which made Europe admired and feared remain, only the genes which turned a titan into pathetic garbage remain.

>>14713494
Fun story, the dollar's global dominance also decreased from 40% (cold war) to 20% today.

>>14713476
I’m disappointed that 90% of modern political views are just
>Well the other side says XYZ so I’ll say the opposite hahaha that’ll get ‘em!!!!!!!!!!
Also /pol/ has pretty much turned on Elon now very disappointing. I’m curious if more conservatives will dislike him in the future because Trump seems to fucking hate him now

>>14712540
> Private companies dont half their workforce comprised of Chinese spies.
Citation needed.

>>14713512
>>14713405

I’m thinking of making some space related YouTube videos. I did one about Starship back in May and I got zero views.

I have a plan. I’m thinking of making some vids sucking off ISRO in order to pull in the Indian market. Then I can switch to other stuff. Thoughts?

>>14713497
USA

>>14712576
I wish something good was being done with that money, but I think we all know it’s wasted. Worse, it’s being used to make corrupt politicians and worthless rent seekers rich and powerful.

>>14713506
Shit mate it sounds like easy money. Say nice things about China and make free cash from chinese shills

>>14713445
>Eurofaggots can't even afford to heat their water anymore
Quick, someone get ARCA to show them how!

>>14712732
I see you’re mentally retarded or autismal. The Chinese word for mixed race is 混血, literally mixed blood

>>14713481

>>14713522
An India focused space channel would be cool but you're going to run face-first into the problem of there being so damn little to actually talk about. Youtube runs on grinding out content and ISRO barely does enough to justify quarterly updates.

pretty smart of SpaceX to pressurize the water tank

>>14713502
Boosters follow a ballistic trajectory and might fall in their own land or waters, but the long march core stage almost enters orbit, and so it can re-enter at any point along that orbital plane.

Do moon landing conspiracy proponents believe that the Soviets were in on it, or do they think the USSR didn’t know?

>>14713545
This.
Just open a programming channel and teach Java for free. Guaranteed minimun 100M pajeet views.

>>14713578
USSR didn't know, just like how the US didn't know Soviets faked jet mass production line to appear as if the Soviets had the advantage. Or the rumored advanced jets that Russia had produced but were trash in reality. We only got those information after dissents fled the Soviet sphere and sought refuge in America.

>>14713578
The jewish controlled Soviet Union and the jewish consoled USA were totally enemies, bro.

>>14713578
I don't care what they think, they're beneath me.

>CZ-5B reentry at 12:24 EST ± 1 hour

Who's ready?

>>14713240
dominating the airspace

>>14713476
>A-America is the good guys
The USA is as shitty as Russia or China, it just happens that you live either in USA or a country aligned with the USA.

>>14713303
Seems like a pretty bad guess

>>14713600
Wheres it landing?

>>14713543
Lol! Saw this post on a previous thread >>14708742 and wanted to see it. Was funnier than I expected.

>>14713607
There are no good guys, but America is objectively a better country than both of those authoritarian shitholes.

>>14713435
Liberty

>>14713368
I hope it lands on the FAA

>>14713543
need the fuck anime version of this

>>14713624
>Wheres it landing?
There's no earthly way of knowing...
Where on earth it might be glowing...

>>14713624
we've got a 120 minute long reentry window.

We'll know when it fails to show up for a tracking station or when someone starts posting to Instagram that a rocket fell on their house.

>>14713624
No one knows about the country or the region, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

>>14713656
Tim Burton's version was better and more faithful
to the book.

>>14713624
somewhere in yellow

>>14713679
That was over India last night. It moves.

im hearing static fire next week? preburner is wednesday?

>>14713607
I don't like America myself, I just wrote it that way to avoid triggering Americans but instead I triggered you.
Anyway, what I wrote isn't false, just the conclusion is different.

>>14713669
You're just an edgelord who likes Depp's edginess more than you;re willing to admit. I just read some articles about it after finding that pic. Do you even know about the scene that Wilder insisted on?
>Watching Johnny Depp’s interpretation of the beloved character was interesting. I understood what he was trying to do, and the Michael Jackson persona actually fitted quite well with Wonka’s rejection of adulthood. But it wasn’t the character I knew from the books. He came across as more of a frightened, insecure child than the mad genius who accepts no limits.

>>14713679
The yellow is the margin later and the blue is the margin sooner. If they're dead-on, it'll splash down in Baja California Sur ("South Lower California").

You "people" will bicker over anything.

>>14713710
>It lands on some south american government official's house and sets back china's diplomatic ambitions by another hundred years

>>14713707
I will admit that the original movie had a better Wonka, but pretty much everything else the 2005 one does, it does better. I will not discuss this further because this is off-topic.

>>14713750
No we won't, fight me fagit

Launch when

Yenisei will probably be complete before Starship takes flight...depressing

>>14713755
Turns out they weren't. The splashdown zone is now the Indian Ocean near Indonesia.

>>14713757
>off topic
Unless you want to talk about the sequel novel, where Willy Wonka goes to space

>>14713455
A good theoretical plan for the 2120s.

>>14713784
You never know, they could make the first stage reusable and make fools of us all

>>14713787
??? Then the rocket wouldn't be destroyed each time. There'd get fewer orders to build new ones. That's completely counterproductive.

>>14713787
I can't even picture SLS trying to land itself. Bonus points if you can make the SRBs return to launch site too.

>>14713787
??? Then the rocket wouldn't be destroyed each time. They'd get fewer orders to build new ones. That's completely counterproductive.

>>14713792
>Bonus points if you can make the SRBs return to launch site too.
Two words: Grid fins.

>>14713787
If you bolted on 4-6 Falcon Heavy boosters and used a Vulcan style engine pod with the core you'd actually have a respectable rocket.

>>14713790
The whole point is to keep the SRB lines open for the sequel to the Minuteman IIIs

They could care less about the fate of Rocketdyne and their extremely-expensive RS-25s, hell they could swap the whole damn thing for a BE-4 or a Raptor 2 and go methalox if they wanted

>>14713417
It isn't that hard to find out. China is ethnonationalist.

Getting closer

>>14713829
Why haven't they strapped a GPS tracker onto it?
And maybe a small SRB to deorbit it in a controlled manner.

>>14713224
>>14713346
>click on filters
>under type, choose channel
>first result, even has a verified checkmark
It's literally that easy in youtubery

>>14713842
>GPS tracker
What the fuck does that even mean? It's fucking normiefag-speak is what.
GPS is receive-only. Sure it could know where it is, how do you expect it to report its position from a tumbling piece of space junk? And if it can be received, it can be tracked without needing GPS. Also
>implying China even cares where it is

>>14713855
A GPS tracker is a receiver + a comms device to send the locations.
Haven't you seen those in trucking companies? Or taxi fleets? They have their own SIM card.

>they don't care
Well, they should. If it falls into a populated place it is going to be a huge embarrassment for the CCP.

>>14713829
...And she's down!

https://twitter.com/nazriacai/status/1553424586624335872

>>14713842
Why would they waste the effort in trying to not litter? They're China, anon.

>>14713871
Is that place along the trajectory?

>>14713876
It's in Malaysia, so yeah

>>14713876
Kuching is on the north side of Borneo which puts it pretty much right under the reentry track.

>>14713494
the us accounted for 40% of world gdp in 1960

>>14713294
>"We found that Gazprom funded environmental NGOs that provided ministers to various governments, such as Belgium, which then advocated abandoning nuclear power".
Gazprom? They will throw anything and a kitchen sink at Russia. 13% tax, free higher education and free healthcare, can't have that.
Largest NGOs who fund abandonment of nuclear power and coal come from -BP - British Petroleum british monopoly, Shell - Royal Dutch Shell dutch monopoly, and Rockfeller monopoly in USA , old Standard Oil , now Exxon Mobil + Chevron and such.
Not Gazprom.
Finally the real fraudsters are caught. But don't look here, look over there.

>>14713915

>>14713915
>government ministers funded by Russian natural gas exporter succeed in making their countries more reliant on Russian natural gas
>the real problem is British Petroleum

Meanwhile, at Blue Origin...

>>14713915
>abandonment of nuclear power and coal
Who cares at this point? It's like getting upset at someone keying cars in a scrapyard.

>>14713915
>Royal Dutch Shell
Formerly known as Rothschild Oil

New twitter sightings

https://twitter.com/Drizzle78878087/status/1553428782450503681

https://twitter.com/juuulan_/status/1553425504598134784

https://twitter.com/exad00/status/1553427442953768961

>>14712443
The private sector is incentivized to do things efficiently while the public sector is incentivized to do things that line the pockets of politicians. Public programs devolve rapidly into a shit ton of Gimme, Gimme's unable to do more than give the appearance of being competent (and often not even that.) Making it illegal to criticize, much less fire anyone but the straight, white male is bad for long term success.

>>14713940
>>government ministers funded by Russian natural gas exporter succeed in making their countries more reliant on Russian natural gas
Tell me buddy. No country in the world is relying on: British BP monopoly? Rockfeller monopoly? Saudi Arabia oil monopolhy?
>>the real problem is British Petroleum
Yes, these 3 financed anti-nuclear and anti-coal campaigns via NGOs and a fraudulent and failed everywhere "green" energy.
The "Russia bad" campaign is ridiculous. Russia has 13% federal tax and free college and free healthcare, via government financed by profits from the oil and gas industry. It is , EFFECTIVELY , natural resources profits distributed to the people.
Cannot have resources distributed to the people, oligarchs and monopolies and fake "kings" and queens are the only choice, apparently.

>>14713970
>The private sector is incentivized to do things efficiently while the public sector is incentivized to do things that line the pockets of politicians.
It's extremely efficient to line the pockets of politicians to get the legislation you want.

>>14713930
Based

>>14713869
>They have their own SIM card.
That's nice. So where are the cellular antennas for space junk tracking?

>>14713915
>free higher education and free healthcare
You are either a vatnik or you have never been to Eastern Europe.

>>14714006
An unironic tankie, lmao

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-administrator-statement-on-chinese-space-debris
>NASA Administrator Bill Nelson released this statement Saturday regarding debris from the Chinese Long March 5B rocket:
>“The People’s Republic of China (PRC) did not share specific trajectory information as their Long March 5B rocket fell back to Earth.
>“All spacefaring nations should follow established best practices, and do their part to share this type of information in advance to allow reliable predictions of potential debris impact risk, especially for heavy-lift vehicles, like the Long March 5B, which carry a significant risk of loss of life and property. Doing so is critical to the responsible use of space and to ensure the safety of people here on Earth.”

>>14713512
>because Trump seems to fucking hate him now
No he doesn't. He simply called Elon out on his bullshit and gave a bit of banter.

>>14714151
>>>/pol/

>>14714151
the vast delusion of trumpelstiltskins knows no bounds

>>14714156
nigga you have learned nothing from the past decade on how Trump dishes out compliments and insults.

Not spaceflight so I'll stop

>>14713842
because they don't give a shit. The batteries in there probably stopped working shortly after launch

Huh, so they still actually do things down at KSC

They're working on a prototype lunar regolith ISRU demonstrator

Holy shit I never knew the Chinese would actually drop the rocket boosters on their own cities what the fuck


https://twitter.com/drchriscombs/status/1553394564114833409?s=21&t=1sxQkWmtQPgz-RM0XtQ8PQ

>>14713512
>Trump seems to fucking hate him now
Trump will shit on anyone who doesn't lick his balls. But he will also forgive you if you resume licking them.

>>14713009
cause all of his starhip testing livestreams had problems in the past

>>14714187
>anon has never heard of the villager-pillager

>>14713630
while we are posting big side booster derivatives...
the side boosters from Ariane 5 were supposed to be cobbled up into lighter vehicles in same manner as Ares I

the big was was cancelled in favour of Soyuz
the small one eventually morphed into Vega

>>14713944
guy in upper left is just looking and smiling at the damn thing. no wonder BO can't get anything done

>>14714187
Insane. How is no one in China mad at this?

>>14714190
What an asshole lol. I was a huge Trump fan up until recently desu. There comes a time when the rosy sunglasses come off and you realize his worst enemy is himself. DeSantis 2024 ftw

>>14714196
Saturn INT-05 was basically a Saturn S-IVB stage stacked on top of a 7 meter wide solid booster called the AJ 260.
The “Ares I Design” is very old and very common

>>14714200
>Insane. How is no one in China mad at this?
it's kinda like 1984 over there

https://techcrunch.com/2022/07/29/heres-what-swarm-has-been-up-to-in-the-10-months-since-being-acquired-by-spacex/

Interview with SpaceX's satellite senior director, former ex-CEO of Swarm

>>14714203
Still the most based SRB ever built
>Between Sept. 25, 1965, and June 17, 1967, three static test firings were done. SL-1 was fired at night, and the flame was clearly visible from Miami 50 km away, producing over 3 million pounds of thrust. SL-2 was fired with similar success and relatively uneventful. Despite having two chambers, a third test firing took place by reusing the SL-2. Dubbed the SL-3 and what would be the final test rocket, it used a partially submerged nozzle and produced 2,670,000 kgf thrust, making it the largest and most powerful solid-fuel rocket motor ever built.

>>14714187
They've wiped an entire town off the map before, why would they give a fuck about a spent stage?

>>14714196
pretty much all parts were shared as well
>>14714203
imagine the smell of 6 tons of burning rubber per second
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmtzFNy1t3U

>>14714187
they cant do this

>>14714196
As much as I would have liked to see the DLA-S, going with Soyuz was actually a reasonable choice at the time. Developing it would take a decade and millions of dollars and the Soyuz-U/FG was already in service and right in the capability range Arianespace was interested in. Back in the late 90s everyone was cutting deals to try and bring ex-Soviet boosters onto the western commercial market; Lockheed was selling Protons through ILS and Boeing was launching Zenits through Sea Launch. There wasn't much point in going to all that work to design a new rocket only to find that Orbital Science Corporation had cut a deal with TsSKB-Progress and eaten your market segment years before you had a chance to show up.

>>14714257
yeah, it was a different time back then

>>14714246
It's the CCP. The Chinese certainly aren't going to stop them.

>>14714246
they clearly can

Can you tell the difference between an orbital debris re entry and a meteor?

>>14714200
>How is no one in China mad at this?
They drop it on rural areas and villages. Nobody gives a shit about rural places and people.

>>14714292
Not really

I suppose you could make the case that the fireball is a different color

>>14714292
it the videos it looks like deorbits are slower than asteroids

>>14714292
That guy is just a faggot but it's possible to tell the difference.

>If an object moves slowly and steadily across the sky at a speed similar to how a fast aircraft would move, and it is trailing a long glowing streak behind it, it is probably a reentry.
>If there appear to be a tight cluster of bright points all moving in the same direction at similar speeds, and all leaving streaks behind them, then it is very probably a reentry breakup.
>If the object is moving extremely fast, and the event is gone in a flash or a few seconds, then it is very probably a meteor.
>If there seems to be a single object, or it appears to explode, then it might be a bolide meteor.

>>14714303
Orbital entry speeds can vary wildly per incoming object

This is yesterday's fireball track (there's an ongoing meteor shower)

>>14714292
Speed and angle. Orbital debris take long time and is seen over a long distance.

Meteors come at a sharp angle and come in extremely fast

>>14714306
I think a both a meteor and a satellite wouldn't move at constant speeds and both can and do break up and create multiple trails. If it's going slowly my guess would be it's likely an asteroid

>>14714216
>swarm ceo
let me guess, she's popped out one of elon's babies too?

How are the mars sample collecting drone copters coming along? Are we almost there yet?

How come no one cared when the crew-1 dragon trunk landed in Australia a month ago? That's just as bad as China.

>>14714288
>>14714270
but it hurts the people

>>14714353
mommy

>>14714378
copeters

>>14714311
I've been camping out in mountains just the other day and I can confirm the ongoing meteor shower
seeing meteors blazing through sky made the hypothermia, fatigue and sleep deprivation worth it

>>14714383
Because it hasn't been proven yet what rocket the debris came from. It matches well with a SpaceX launch but until that's confirmed, it's just speculation. Maybe SpaceX will actually pay the fine for littering, unlike NASA who never paid for littering Skylab debris in Australia.

>>14714425
Why isn't there a way to control where the trunk re-enters then?

>>14712810
The Vietnam war was started by North Vietnam.

>>14714425
I wonder if some Australian agency comes with black cars to take the debris

>>14714383
Looks much more sparsely populated undeveloped land

Not meaning it's good. Just not as dangerous risky as it falling on a city.

Therea multiple Chinese cities with more populations than all of australia

>>14714433
Vietnam war was started by French not fucking off

>>14714431
Likely it wasn't intended to fall anywhere close to where it did, so some kind of malfunction occurred.
>>14714443
Probably isn't any defense reason to go collect it but the government might want to do so just in case there's a small possibility that it could endanger those that handle it. It's an interesting question of ownership. Is space debris considered abandoned property?

>>14714312
Huh, the angle would depend on the position of the observer. I've seen meteors that appear to not move at all and ones that make it halfway across the sky

>>14713531
Looks like he already has the Chinese space market but maybe a YouTube channel that discusses how amazing and powerful the Chinese military is would gain a rapid "following". Probably wouldn't take long before you were both monetized and receiving donations on your Patreon from China.

Any spaceflight enjoyers here?

Why haven’t they made a statement?

Have they ever made one for their uncontrolled reentries?

>>14714530
Lol, lmao even. Roflmao perhaps

>>14714523
No, I hate spaceflight.
t. /sfg/'s most active poster

>>14714383
It's not just the trunk either. There was an uncontrolled upper stage last year over Mexico and another one over Western North America a few months ago.

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1552689383920357376
>The space operations budget includes $50 million for certification activities for another commercial crew provider; the rationale is that based on experience from comm’l cargo “redundancy may require more than two service providers.”

A third commercial crew provider besides SpaceX/Dragon and Boeing/Starliner is kind of a big deal.

>>14714575
No thanks. Spend that extra few billion on another cool probe or two.

>>14714523
eww

>>14714200
>Insane. How is no one in China mad at this?
Angry people disappear in China all the time.
You may want to read your Solzhenitsyn so you can understand how communists work.

>>14714200
>>>/pol/

>>14714603
>>>/reddit/

>>14714575
Wasn’t Blue Origin working on a capsule years ago? Either them, Relativity or Rocket Lab could be capable as all of their rockets are crew capable potentially

Starship and the Sierra space plane thingy could be capable as well

>>14714569
So why does everyone say China is bad when SpaceX is doing the same shit?

>>14713522
Super late reply but look at apogee
A few good videos doesn't mean much to youtube

>>14714575
>manned DC for 50 million
lol, lmao, just went spaceplanefags couldn't get any more delusional.

>>14714618
It's not a good thing that they launched this thing with no plan to safely dispose of it. But the coverage of the risk has been shear hysteria.

Hard to watch Top Gun 2 due to the unrealistic aircraft physics, why is this so hard for movies to get right

>>14714575
Dream Chaser has been fucked over too many times for this to be hope for them.

>>14714715
It's never about accuracy. Not rocket accuracy. Not. Economic accuracy. Not scientific accuracy. Not relational accuracy.

The point of movies aren't about accuracies. They're about moving the story for the audience

>>14714715
Top Gun 2 is kino wtf are you talking about. Only gripe is the Mach 10 turn he does

>>14714715
Like 90% of the movie is practical effects of jets lmao, what was unrealistic?

>>14714187
Yeah, they're all chinese like that

>>14714724
>fucked over
They rightfully lost CCtCap to fucking Boeing.

I just wanted to see her scoot dammit

>>14714762
Americans will have a colony on Io before the Euros launch that damned thing.

>>14714767
And I just wanted to see her scoot

>>14714769
You just did. You, in fact, are the one who posted the webm.

>>14714770
(on Mars)

>>14714769
What was the thinking behind that scoot technique, thats it's primary or only mode of moving? Why would that be thought to be a good idea?

>>14714767
To be fair, the ESA has like half the budget and now just severed ties with russia, making it even harder for them

>>14714762
Not dead yet. Would have been nice if it could have been rolled into MSR. I guess we find out after the ministerial.

>>14714830
To be fair, Europeans are stupid people who always make poor decisions.

>>14714836
At least we didn't pick the senile pedo as a president.

>>14714836
never mind nasa budget has been growing and growing. 24 billion to esa's 7

>>14714842
Right, anon, we don't need to list all the bad decisions. We'd be here all day.

>>14714840
kek
I struck a nerve.

>>14714847
Yeah, your obsession is getting a bit tiring.

>>14714850
Obsession? I'm obsessed with getting (You)se.
You keep giving them to me, anon, because you're salty.

Listen, I don't hate all of you. The Brits are alright.
But not the Irish.

>>14714829
It would just drive normally most of the time. The walking thing was a specific test to practice getting out of a sand trap. If all goes well it would never be used, but it gives them an extra option that Spirit never had.

>>14714840
The really sad thing about this statement is that without further context it provides absolutely no clue as to the political leanings of the poster or which president they are referring to. Is it the right talking about the left? Is it the left talking about the right? The world may never know.

>>14714772
She'll get there. One of the manned SpaceX mission might have to drop her off, but she'll get there.

>>14714257
You're not as smart as you think you are. You post day after day offering your "analysis"; as if you had any idea the scope of importance that goes on behind the scenes. People like me are part of that community. Keep reading popular mechanics articles and Scott Kelly Pinterest quotes. You're delusional. Leave space flight to the actual informed members of the inteligencia; such as myself. I am taler, bigger, more handsome than you could ever dream of being. I'm a veteran. I'm a pillar of the community. I walk into a room and people change their body language. I could defeat 90 percent of humans on the planet in hand to hand combat. I am a leader. A literal genius. An artist. I am spaceflight.

>>14714187
>>14714200
>Starship debris hit some beetles
>Global outrage, rich man bad
>China dropping hypergolic stages over villagers
>Nobody cares or even knows about it, zero clicks
Oh well..

>oh well

>>14714881
A few beetles living their best life in a quiet patch of south Texas wilderness are objectively worth more than a village filled with Chinese people.

So Isaacman owns a MiG-29, interesting.

>>14714200
>orange man wins primary
>anon stays home and pouts
>half a vote for someone much worse
>many such cases

>>14714915
IIRC you could get one in poland for not that much

<< It's time. >>

>>14714915
There was some hick in east texas that owns/owned a mig-17 or 21 and used it at airshows.

I win

>>14713485
The prop tanks are at like 6-10 bar or something

>>14714670
Try reading more slowly before you try to mock others.

>>14713485
It doesn't have an effect on engine performance because they have to go through a pump anyway

It indirectly affects the vehicle performance by influencing tank weight and maximum fuel capacity

>>14713784
That's actually celebrating 100 years of Boeing as a company and not 100 years of Boeing towards the future

>>14714715
What part did you consider unrealistic.

>>14714575
Redundancy for what? Executives eating glue? What is this protectionism fucking for?

>>14715080
Pumps multiply tank pressure, higher tank pressure means the pumps do less work or rather you need smaller pumps for the same final pressure

>>14715086
There is no way an American plane would defeat a former Soviet one

>>14714617
The fact that this is coming from Congress makes me wonder if Cantwell knows something about BO's crew ambitions.

>>14715114
Don't you have a thread to go spam "my scenario stands" in

Uh oh....

>>14714617
Sierra is the one real possibility. Developing a crew spacecraft is a billion dollar endeavor, and neither Relativity or Rocket Lab are going to have that kind of disposable income any time soon. Blue Origin could fund it, maybe, but they've already spread their Amazon allowance about as far as it's possible to go so they'd have to wait until after the BE-4 line starts collecting regular income from ULA and probably after New Glenn starts earning revenue as well. Starship is a no-go too because you can't dock something that large to the ISS without risking disastrous structural stresses.

Meanwhile, Sierra has most of their crew spacecraft done with cargo Dream Chaser and can afford to add the human rating equipment with the paydays they get from commercial cargo flights. All it needs is a crew rated launcher, and while $50M isn't anywhere near what you need to design a spacecraft it's more than enough for crew rating Vulcan.

Does anyone else think people give RocketLab too much credit?

>>14715153
Somewhat. Mainly when they don't wanna acknowledge SpaceX or mention them too much in case they could come off as SpaceX/Musk hardcore fanatics, which seems to be taboo everywhere in the internet except here. Same thing happens when Shotwell gets praised too much or the argument of muh competition is good or muh monopoly is bad comes up.

>>14715140
Can't you slap a booster or two onit?

i just got dalle-e 2
what spaceflight related image should i generate

>>14715224
The US civil war on Mars

>>14715140
Sounds like more FAA BS

Or, if I remember the checklist, FCC BS because if it radiates from space it needs approval

>>14715113
The pump pressure far outweighs any reasonable tank pressure to make it insignificant in terms of the amount of work the pumps have to do.

How is SpaceX going to transport Starship and Superheavy to the stand at KSC?

>>14715153
I haven't seen many people who are overenthusiastic about Rocket Lab's progress. Pretty much just investors and kiwis in that regard. RL are merely achievers rather than overachievers, which I think earns them the modest credit they typically get.

>>14715269
same way they moved the launch tower

It's not like the rocket has to be horizontally integrated

>ywn bake gourmet heat tiles

>>14715275
forbidden cookie....

>>14715275
The SpaceX brand EZ-bake oven

>>14715275
Fresh baked from the oven each morning, come in and try a free sample

>>14715275

actually speaking of tiles
how are the tiles on the ships holding up?
they have been out in the weather for over a year at this point

>>14715299
Sometimes they fall off sometimes they don’t. We don’t know 100% until we see a re entry test

>>14715347

Where is the JWST exoplanet science? I poked around arXiv and didnt see anything except a pretty pedestrian chemical abundance study of exoplanet host stars
https://arxiv.org/abs/2207.13662

I WANT PROOF OF AYYS

>>14715427
nigga like hold on like they just turned the damn thing on damn man chill

>>14715416
Imagine sugarcoating the tiles
delicious sugar coated tiles

>>14715347
not the falling off part
the absorbing water and salt part

SLS vs Starship for first launch is a moot point. Falcon Heavy beat SLS already

https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT_AWD_80MSFC20C0034_8000_-NONE-_-NONE-

NASA awarded $85 million for Starship in May and $300 million in June

>>14715583
Falcon 1 may some day come about. It's on the drawing board right now. Ares V is real.

>>14715613
Artemis needs HLS ready ASAP and without it is just an expensive sightseeing tour around the moon

They need at least one tanker, one depot and the HLS built and launched

>>14715617
fuck that really puts it into perspective
spacex went from a dinky toy rocket all the way to something greater than the saturn v in the time that nasa has done nothing

>>14715583
Yes but I crave the satisfaction of seeing SLS beat to orbit by both.
Two rockets from the same company, neither of which was in serious development when the SLS program officially began.

>>14715112
>Redundancy for what?

Probably the fact that Starliner dies when the last Atlas V flies.

>>14714618
It's funny because that upper stage that crashed into the Moon turned out to be from a Chinese rocket after all the wumao shilled against SpaceX.

>>14715613
Why tho

>>14715583
Goalpost: relocated

>>14715240
The maximum output pressure of a pump design is limited by cavitation to some function of the input pressure

>>14715071
I read that tweet correctly, retard. I'm mocking people who don't understand the difference between certification and development while being generous by assuming SNC could be given the total amount of funding instead of it going to NASA.

Dreamchaser is overrated

I will squash you like a bug

>>14715770
I doubt that Blue Origin and their partners intend to give SpaceX a monopoly on manned transport to CLD stations and note that a manned DC would also be without a launch vehicle.

>>14715583
Hop when

>>14715908
NET September prolly. It seems like they’re starting almost from scratch with booster testing. B8 rolls out with no engines next week maybe, or B7 with a bunch of redo tests

Can someone confirm if this is musk's son? I think I found Musk's personal account.

>>14715965

>>14715965
>>14715967
>schizo is trying to fuck with elon again

>>14715967

>>14715967
It's deleted...

https://youtu.be/0fZ-r5Qe3tM

Do you guys think they will pretty up the launch stand for Super heavy? It looks awful

>>14716078
Pretty up? Have seen Cybertruck? Dystopian austere is on the menu.

>>14716096
What is so 'dystopian' about Cybertruck?

>>14716104
I don't know. Maybe the fact it looks like something OCP from Robocop would build.

>>14712796
It looks like a shuttle because it's a nuclear SSTO spaceplane that has to fly in the atmosphere as well
They did their homework anon

>>14716061
Great video and an embarrassing incident for Dmitry Rogozin, one of many that led to his dismissal.

>>14715086
The flight of the prototype at the beginning of the movie. The kinematics of the flight and the scale of everything is way off. Had to abort my viewing after that

>>14715113
>Pumps multiply tank pressure
no they add pressure to the pressure that is already there.
>>14715240
~10 bar is a nontrivial fraction of the 500 bar pump pressure. Overall this probably increases the trust by a few percent

>>14715427
I think they did some Trappist observations a few days ago