/sci/ - Science & Math

>>14706311

>>14706314
I love and respect atheists.
Reality has infinite layers.

I was an atheist until I did LSD and could actually SEE that all is the quantum-realm/the place in schrödingers box.

I’ve heard the term before that seeing is believing and I’ve seen.

So what is your interpretation of god? It seems not a particular religious one

>>14706311
based I-have-never-opened-a-physics-book anon

>>14706318
Atheists don't respect you, hippie. Seeing something does not mean it is real. Seeing is just an interpretation of visual stimuli data by your brain and. That interpretation is full of errors.

>>14706318
Another brain melter saw god on a trip

>>14706322
Love and all.
The only motive is love and all is consciousness so god is love.

>>14706324
>>14706329
>>14706330
You might find “observed quantum states” interesting.
Im actually extremely into neuroscience.
The core of a thought is x=y. And every x=y has infinite expansion potential.
In every idea is an all. Infinite relativities.

But anyways, if you don’t what to think of it that way, that’s ok. Everyone has their own story.

>>14706311
Science doesn't prove god. But did you know that 12000 RPM DISPROVES COAM, SIR????

>>14706381
I have a PhD in math and seems legit.

science cannot proves God because science is based on God

>>14706402
Science is based on the axiom of causality.
Is the assumption that the past causes future, based on God? It's based on determinism, and God is also kind of based on that.
>>14706311
No. But QM says that the universe is indeterministic but all the science that is supposed to prove QM is based on determinism.
At the very least, you can find a nonlocal hidden variable theory that can make QM deterministic again.

>>14706398
Thoughts have mass and the expansion of time intrinsically expands them.
For example, civilization began as a thought. And it grew and grew and now we live inside that thought. Extremely deep inside it to be exact.

Existence is like a spirit world of thoughts. Each thought being a Big Bang.
All is infinite “big bangs”.

And if you believe in multiverses,
well I believe every thought is a merging with another multiverse.
From your multiverse of infinite multiverses merged together.
The Big Bang of our universe is infinite multiverses connecting with infinite multiverses.
Or infinite big bangs connecting with infinite big bangs.

The Big Bang never ended. We’re in it. I see our state as simultaneous with the beginning. That all is simultaneous and connected.
The abstract before time didn’t end, YOU ARE THAT ABSTRACT IN ALL ENTIRETY! You are god!
Everyone is! Here and now IS what is before time!
As well as all else simultaneously!

>>14706420
You certainly are creative aren't you.

I don't understand what you mean by thoughts being big bangs or the big bang being a multiverse, but many mathematicians believe numbers and mathematical thoughts exist outside our brains which doesn't seem entirely different.

With your last paragraph, if existence is eternal and containing infinite universes, one could argue that the state we're at now is indistinguishable from any other state.

>>14706314
Stop using retarded definitions. When you don't understand something, you don't use your wrong definition of it to defend your beliefs.

>>14706471

>>14706464
Well the core of all things is the “Big Bang”
Turning the abstract that neither is nor isnt into something. Out of infinite multiverses that could have been in its place.
For one thing to exist, infinite things must simultaneously exist.
For one truth to be true, infinite other truths must not be true.
In every choice we both end infinite potentialities and create infinite potentialities.

About the numbers, there is a place that is outside of time.
And that place is also within time and is all time simultaneously.

What do you imply by your last paragraph?
>one could argue that the state we're at now is indistinguishable from any other state.

>>14706476
I think we should bless their minds with our insights. We must be careful as to not label someone as someone bad and for them to become it in a self fulfilling prophecy.

I was an atheist once and I wouldn’t condemn what my think was back then.

I was preoccupied with turning humanity INTO god via science. Almighty divinity for all.
And I was surrounded with much suffering and confusion and emptiness. The light in me was human divinity and still is.

Even though I do believe in god/love, I am still determined to give humanity immortality, complete divine empowerment, and heaven for all here on earth.
With the help of science.

One of the reasons I believe the only god is love is because all motives are love and all is consciousness/conscious.

>>14706493
I agree with everything except I not sure about
>And that place is also within time and is all time simultaneously.
What does it mean to be all time simultaneously? It almost seems like that'd imply some type of determinism.

>What do you imply by your last paragraph?
In your paragraph you were talking about simultaneity and how what is here now is what was before time.

I was saying this doesn't seem so unreasonable. Often in mathematics there are many mutually exclusive choices one can take, but if there is nothing "special" to distinguish one state from another then you can't select any choice because if one is true, then the others must be equally true!

I was saying if you assume existence is eternal and there are infinite universes, one might apply this argument to time itself to get your simultaneity conclusion.

>>14706545
>>14706493
You may have to meditate a bit on the reasoning before it "clicks." Well I should go to bed. Like 5 am

>>14706545
Being all time simultaneously also implies that you are all multiverses simultaneously. And there’s infinite multiverses and infinite layers to reality.
It is all so abstract. It is pure abstract.
There is infinitely much to what is and isn’t and infinitely much to what neither is nor isnt.
Etc.
There are unfathomable aspects to reality.
God/love is going to love and explore love/god for eternity.
It’s never going to stop,
There is boundless aspects to all.

Suffice to say, I don’t believe in determinism at all.
After all, there being infinite aspects to “what neither is nor isnt” and all kinds of ratios of that. Like “what neither is nor isnt but sometimes. . . somewhat is”
Etc

It’s flabbergasting
One can thing of any thought infinitely.

You are what is a decider. You are love.

But even god does not know all of god.
That’s the thing.
It’s really that flabbergasting.

Take this last sentence as you will but
The god that does know all is “true love”.

But even then, true love, may know all but doesn’t per say know all.
As a painter doesn’t know how a painting will turn out.
But in this case it is a painter both painting in reverse and forward and all directions and painting itself etc etc etc
One can imagine that in all the profoundness of love and being that even god gets lost.
Like Zeus messing around. Or angels that were once all one find themselves fighting each other.
Etc
How fun.

Here’s a thought: every statement is a spell.

Make a statement and explore its infinite truth.

Doing so may be useful to you.
Any statement. Make a statement you’ve never made yet love and wish to be true.

>>14706566
One can +think+ of any thought infinitely

Hmm the infinite unfathomable aspects to reality and all their implications.
That’s a thought.

Reminder to protect your consciousness/soul.

To sell your consciousness is to sell your soul.

Never give up your consciousness/love.

Protect your love/soul always and unconditionally.
Only ever do what you love!
Only ever think what you love to think!
Absolutely! Unconditionally! No-matter-what!

>>14706566
I woke up. sleep is wack.

>Make a statement and explore its infinite truth.
>Make a statement you’ve never made yet love and wish to be true.
I can think of statements I have made and wish to be true easy, but a statement I've never made? Hmmmmmmmmm

How about: I'm capable of understanding existence before I die.

Not sure about the infinite layers of this statement, but apparently there's a lot to understand out there.

>>14707796
When I took shrooms I thought societies restrictions and guidelines which humans depend on so much, are not the true value of life and being conscious. Life is much more free than those arbitrary guidelines.