/sci/ - Science & Math

>>14703272
With what?

>>14703272
Water isn't the only problem. The soil there is dead. The Sahara has very nutrient dense soil that just needs water to become a lush landscape again. Most of the soil in Australia, especially in the interior, is completely depleted and has been for a long long time. Add water and you just get mud.
They have a couple of small agricultural belts, mainly near the coast, that are still viable but the bulk of the country is unsuitable for agriculture. You'd have to find a way to replenish the soil. The "easiest" way of doing that would be by creating a bunch of volcanos. Volcanic ash is nutrient rich.
Creating volcanos in Australia wouldn't be an easy task. One of the benefits of Australia is that it is geologically very stable. That's great for most things but terrible if you want to create volcanos.

>>14703585
>Most of the soil in Australia, especially in the interior, is completely depleted and has been for a long long time.
How did it happen?

>>14703565
Chocolate milk

>>14703781

>>14703272
i've thought about this

https://america.cgtn.com/2017/09/13/new-technology-in-china-turns-desert-into-land-rich-with-crops#:~:text=Crops%20like%20corn%2C%20tomatoes%2C%20sorghum,found%20in%20plant%20cell%20walls.

along with piped water, agrable land is possible.
there are more factors necessary like trees for windbreak and soil stuff
and the fact that you'll turn the country into a wetland, literally floods galore

that's all i know, post more info if you got it

>>14703272
I don't care about Straya

>>14703781
By being both old as fuck and by not being close enough to a plate boundary to have lots of geological activity of the type that would renew the soil. Over the years, plants used up all of the nutrients and without an outside source, eventually the nutrients were depleted. Glaciers, weathering, and heat have taken the land through many cycles of abuse with no renewal. The result is a mostly dead continent with a small number of ecologically diverse niches where life has concentrated.

>>14704450
Plants don't permanently remove nutrients, unless the plants themselves are removed. Sure something may get blown away, but that place seems like a spot where nutrients should concentrate (relatively dry and endorheic, so nothing much can get washed away)

It's a terrible idea. The consequences are unpredictable.

>>14706215
>terrible idea
Garbage warmer logic

>>14704450
Sea birds dont poo in central Australia?

They have already done it to a small area in Australia. I suggest watching the entire video from the start for more information.
It’s clearly doable and would be great for the economy with massive potential for exports.

https://youtu.be/fGrDOR7lBQ4?t=620

>>14706209
We're talking about extremely long time frames and of course, it's just one factor of many.
>>14706631
Along parts of the coast, which are mostly those areas that are fertile.

>>14706827
>We're talking about extremely long time frames
I don't see how it could invert the direction of the effect. We should see even more resources accumulated.

Shimizu has the plans for Africa, might work in Australia. Huge basins filled with salt sea water will evaporate and cause rain.

This can happen here too, this part of Australia is already below sea level so all it needs is humans to meet it with the ocean

>>14706877
How? Where would those molecules come from? The basic thing with Australia is that it's not getting external inputs like most of the rest of the world. It's simply sitting there having its resources blown or weathered away. It's an open process, not a closed cycle. It's been leaking away into the ocean or the atmosphere for a very very long time. If you don't believe this, go take a bunch of water to the middle of the outback and try growing useful crops. The nutrients simply aren't there anymore. Wishing them to be there like they are in places such as the Sahara won't actually cause them to exist. They're gone and they've been gone for a really long time. What little inputs do come in are nowhere near what has been lost over time. The result is what you see, a mostly dead continent.

>>14706892
Evaporation fumes dont usually fall wherever they evaporate, winds carry moisture wherever. Might still have some modest effect.

>>14704450
>not being close enough to a plate boundary
This doesn't make sense. Switzerland is thousands of miles away from a plate boundary, yet the soil there is fertile.

>>14707812
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eromanga_Basin

>>14703272
>>14707812
looks like a fun civ 5 map

>>14703565
australia floods all the time

>>14703781
There used to be a great Abo civilization in the interior that depleted all the nutrients through centuries of intensive farming. After prospering for millennia the eventual depletion of the soil led to collapse of the civilization, and over the centuries the Abos lost all memory of what they once were, becoming a base and vile people

>>14712386
Nice. Just need to fit in evil whitey somewhere and you'll have the basis for Hotep Mythology: Abo Edition.

>>14709981
No it isn't you dopey cunt

>destroy all the unique habitats in the desert so we can build more Chinese owned farms
Hmmm

>>14703272
Evaporate the sea up wind of it using a space mirror and eventually you'll have a green outback

>>14712370
this. Take all the regular La Nina flooding from Queensland and Northern NSW and channel it into the red center. It will make Melbourne even colder and more miserable if it interrupts the airflow, however it will also make the climate more predictable, so that's sort of a win.
>>14703585
What about 'the big wet' when life springs into the desert?

>>14703272
>Is it a good idea?
yes

>>14712645
>It will make Melbourne even colder and more miserable
Cold is easy to deal with, you just put on more or thicker clothes.
The heat in other major cities is a real pain in the ass, if you want to go outside on a really hot day there’s nothing you can do but suffer. I simply just don’t leave the house on very hot days.

>>14712718
Winter in the other major cities is pretty great tho.
If I had a lot of money I’d buy a house in a hot city to spend the winter there and another one in Melbourne to spend the summer there.

>>14703585
>Hawaii dead in the center

>>14711439
>eromanga

>>14712804