/sci/ - Science & Math

>>14691681
what the FUCK is that at the center????
is that lucifer??

source

>>14691691
space

>>14691691
It’s a JWST image of NGC 628 (M74).

same image from hubble

>>14691752
wow, even messier than i thought

>>14691681
Space is fake

false color garbage

>>14691691
It was revealed to me in ms paint.

>>14691681
Been known since 2005

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messier_74#Suspected_black_hole

Now someone's going around calling it a wormhole lol

>>14691681
I drew that!

>>14691681
Which Final Fantasy Aeon did you guys call...

>>14691681
because their fictional belief system that they wasted their life believing in told them not to care, an their too afraid of what their pos friends will think if they were to care

>>14691681
Where is the HD version?

>>14691807
Kek
Really does look like the visuals from 10

>>14691685
Frieza

>>14691681
There's a difference between image of an object and object that is in the image. There's a black hole in every image that has a piece of sky visible.

>>14691758
mogged.
Webb is a shit

>>14691681
>object that doesnt emit light
>"actual image"
has /sci/ ever been at a lower point?

>>14692115
Accreting black holes are the brightest constant objects in the universe.

>>14692136
not the black hole, try again.

>>14692144
So what are quasars and AGN if not blackholes?

>>14692147
Lots of violently vibrating quarks and electrons

>>14692811
So are stars and elephants, that's not a useful description. To explain quasars without a black hole one needs to explain their luminosity, rapid variability and spectral phenomenology.

>>14691820
>the bible tells you to not care about black holes

>>14692833
It's like a nuclear bomb, but instead of a few nucleai like on earth, it's like a 100 trillion or something right

>>14691758
MOGGED

>>14692859
A catholic priest literally came up with the theory of black holes though

>>14692115
The accretion disk faggot

>"black" hole
>brightest object in the universe
scientists shouldn't choose the names for things

>Object emits no light
>Somehow is the brightest thing in the universe
explain this science

>>14691759

>>14693066
american "christians" are batshit insane to be fair

>>14693187
See
>>14693109

You obviously can't observe the singularity, you can observe the massive glowing plasma accretion disk surrounding it though.

>>14693284
accretion discs are the object that is the brightest meme in the universe then, not black holes

>>14693296
Yes, but they are part of a black hole you midwit. Which makes black holes the brightest objects in the galaxy. That as well as the massive streams of gas they emit stretching hundreds of thousand to hundreds of millions of lightyears.

>>14693301
no they arent

>>14693313
Literally kys

>>14691681
The black spot isn't a black hole, it's just the orbital clearing zone. Picrel is what a black hole looks like (when looking at the appropriate spectrum ofc.)
>>14691685
If there's a black hole, the blue spot would be the accretion disk. Otherwise it's just a big star.

>>14691772
That's referring to a completely different object.

>>14692833
>So are stars and elephants, that's not a useful description.
Neither is "black hole" and defining it with everything else but what it actually is..which is what exactly? Oh right, you don't know lol.

>To explain quasars without a black hole
To "explain" what a black hole is is incomprehensible to you people because you made it up. It's laughable.

>>14693301
>This thing is what makes a black hole so bright
>Can't explain or actually show what a "Black hole" even is.

Professional shadow chasing.

>>14693355
>Professional shadow chasing.
Fucking midwit.

The accretion disk is part of the black hole. How hard is this to understand? It's like saying your arm isn't part of your body.

There are blackholes without accretion disks, the only way we know they are there is by the stars orbiting them and getting slingshot

>>14693369
>the only way we know they are there is by the stars orbiting them and getting slingshot
Has this actually been observed? I thought stars move too slowly.

>>14693369
>The accretion disk is part of the black hole. How hard is this to understand?
>description is an explanation, how is this hard to understand?

It's a psychosis and because you buy into it, you'll never understand any explanation

>It's like saying your arm isn't part of your body.
No it's like saying my arm is a part of a fantasy creature with no empirical evidence because you never showed proof of this phantasm.

>There are blackholes without accretion disks,
>the only way we know they are there is by the stars orbiting them

>There ARE shadows
>We know this because of the light and the objects that cast them!

Cool story shadow chaser. Still doesn't make the shadow real.

>>14693386
I don't fucking even

>>14693390
"Shadow chaser"
An insult at face value until further investigating the proofs and methods they use to "observe black holes". But both figuratively and literally and they are shadow chasers.
Figuratively because everytime they come out with new "proofs" or theories, it usually involves everything else...but the actual fucking blackhole they claim exists. Much like how a shadow is defined when casting light on an object and calling the shadow different forms or things, they do the same with these "different blackholes".

Literally because quite literally they view the absence of light and call it something. There's no properties there for you to put into a scientific experiment, there's no light, it's a fucking absence that's reproducible using polazable lenses. If it weren't...why would they look so hard? One must ask why even bother looking when the explanation to what is being searched for is so simple? Oh wait that's right, "space" isn't polarizable I forgot. It's a fancy description of a geometry and time combined into nonsense.

Imagine spending billions of dollars to live action a celestial scale version of platos cave.

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>>14691685
Gravitational lensing revealing the light behind the black hole

>>14693337
>Picrel is what a black hole looks like
That's just a load of shit floating around. That's not a black hole

Black holes are invisible because they "emit" light in all directions. There is distortion but this is no more confusing than light in glass

>>14693486
>That's just a load of shit floating around
You mean just like every other single thing in the universe?