/sci/ - Science & Math

>>14687519
The only solution I see is to write a wikipedia article copy with everything in the wikipedia page itself plus what they wouldn't allow, such that that specific page becomes more accessed than the wikipedia one

1) It's probably true, based on all information, that black and white IQs are the same or close to the same absent socioeconomic stresses that have been placed on black by white society (including in Africa, under the history of colonialism, segueing into neocolonialism with the CIA fucking their political situations up and forcing them into rightwing capitalism and so forth)

2) Even if, by some chance, it's not true that the IQs are generally equal, genetically, no one cares. Literally no one cares anyway. No one wants to live in a world of race war, which is what idiots like those on /pol/ will use even a slight variance in genetic intelligence to attempt to justify

>>14687627
>1) It's probably true, based on all information, that black and white IQs are the same or close to the same absent socioeconomic stresses that have been placed on black by white society (including in Africa, under the history of colonialism, segueing into neocolonialism with the CIA fucking their political situations up and forcing them into rightwing capitalism and so forth)
>2) Even if, by some chance, it's not true that the IQs are generally equal, genetically, no one cares. Literally no one cares anyway. No one wants to live in a world of race war, which is what idiots like those on /pol/ will use even a slight variance in genetic intelligence to attempt to justify
Oh and an extremely important 3) IQ is a culturally determined thing. And IQ tests don't really test a person's overall intelligence, but rather a bunch of traits that white, capitalist society values. Whereas other types of intelligence no doubt exist and are not tested

>>14687627
>It's probably true, based on all information, that black and white IQs are the same or close to the same absent socioeconomic stresses that have been placed on black by white society (including in Africa, under the history of colonialism, segueing into neocolonialism with the CIA fucking their political situations up and forcing them into rightwing capitalism and so forth)
That does not explain why their IQ was low before any Europeans showed up though, or places in Africa that weren't colonized, or other people who also suffered the same "socioeconomic stresses" (which also includes Europeans in the hands of muslims) not having a lower IQ

>>14687519
everyone knows blacks are stupid. Every race that has came into contact with them has came to that conclusion. Race is an observable truth.

>>14687627
>Even if, by some chance, it's not true that the IQs are generally equal, genetically, no one cares.
I do, I really do. Because socially whites will stop reproducing with non-whites and non-asians, which is great to oppose a neoliberal world government (aka globohomo)

>No one wants to live in a world of race war
Non sequitur

Moreover, leftists would simply change their stupidity to "equality of results" even more, now with the justification that IQ is a white privilgence, and so niggers would have to be baby sitted until they reached a higher IQ (through eugenics, gene therapy, race mixing with chinese han and ashkenazi jews, etc.)

>>14687633
Nah this is all just retarded rightwing coping
Like "that doesn't explain why their IQ was low before any Europeans showed up though!" yeah because all of that great standardized testing done in Africa with modern day IQ tests back before Europeans showed up, amirite?

And "places in Africa that Europeans didn't colonize!" doesn't mean anything. There's nowhere in Africa that was untouched by Europe. Nowhere. Nowhere that wasn't fucked up by them. Colonized or not (and nearly the entire continent was colonized)

Just idiotic rightwing coping because you want SO desperately to believe your IQ is higher than black people's but, I'm sorry, the science GENUINELY doesn't back you up. And it's not some "jewish conspiracy" or "wikipedia conspiracy" I mean it just GENUINELY doesn't back you up

>>14687630
>IQ is a culturally determined thing
Nonverbal tests are the standard

>And IQ tests don't really test a person's overall intelligence, but rather a bunch of traits that white, capitalist society values
The same oppressive values shared by the Maasai tribe in Africa?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yAnHFj4IK0

There is nothing wrong with a capitalist society too, in fact, it's the only possible arrangement since capitalism is just the economy itself

>>14687627
Delusional unsourced nonsense that fails to explain IQ gaps and crime rates of their middle class. You are a leftist breed that has closed its eyes to the last six decades of horrendous policies which have ruined every Western nation. The charade is up. Nobody cares what you have to say. Your cornering of the academic world is at an end. Fraudster academics and their pet scientists will be crushed under the same boots which stomped out their pay pig cronies. The sad part is it wasn't even your fault. Your own leaders overplayed their hand and betrayed all of you. You will be the one wearing those boots, you just don't know it yet.

>>14687640
Yeah see right in your first sentence you're literally trying to use it to institute some kind of anti-miscegenation law. This is the shit no one wants to deal with. And it's irrelevant anyway because the IQ gap is pretty conclusively only due to socioeconomic stresses. Which largely were placed on blacks by whites

>>14687640
Ok so you’re a racist. Why get mad when Wikipedia authors fall you fags out for it?

>>14687646
Non verbal tests are still culturally determined and make a huge difference from culture to culture. And they're also not "the standard". Actually the non-culturally-independent tests are the standard. And when you use more culturally independent tests the gap closes somewhat. But it's still irrelevant because all IQ tests are culturally determined. That's real life, sorry

Your retarded youtube video is completely meaningless to me. You're an idiot if you think capitalist white society is anything moral or superior to what exists in other places though. Capitalist white society has, quite factually, enslaved the world and is devoid of all morals

>>14687644
>There's nowhere in Africa that was untouched by Europe.
https://www.thoughtco.com/countries-in-africa-considered-never-colonized-43742

>Nowhere that wasn't fucked up by them. Colonized or not (and nearly the entire continent was colonized)
What do you mean "fucked by them"? The only thing colonizers brought was development to previous shitholes
https://www.nas.org/academic-questions/31/2/the_case_for_colonialism
https://www.nas.org/academic-questions/35/1/the-case-for-colonialism-a-response-to-my-critics
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5gdfm4

>you want SO desperately to believe your IQ is higher than black people's
Individuals IQs are completely irrelevant. What matters is what is shown as a collective, and the consequences of having each group in your region.

>>14687652
>Calls me delusional unsourced
>My views are literally the ultra sourced ones that every scientist would agree with
>His views are literally the retarded, actually unsourced nonsense on /pol/

>>14687652
>The charade is up.
He can't even understand the motivations of why the left is resorting to censorship. Everyone is fed up with the nonsense that race isn't real and that black crime and failure is because of "socioeconomic" factors which is why the left has resorted to trying to censor and ban any information that contradicts them. The US government is also now making crime data and race a voluntary thing with its new NIBRs crime tracking system. So you can forget about FBI statistics showing race and crime data because now that is all voluntary. Everyone knows that black crime is going on even though they have increased in economic mobility. We now have royal rumbles at Disney world and airports. Also and dont forget their crusade to get rid of SAT scores because black and brown students score lower.

>>14687661
There's nowhere in Africa that was untouched by Europe. That's a blatant fact. Not up for debate. Europeans fucked the entire continent and are continuing to do so today. Particularly America

>>14687653
>Yeah see right in your first sentence you're literally trying to use it to institute some kind of anti-miscegenation law
Laws are useless, I'm saying the people would rightly avoid miscegenation voluntarily. And this is a great thing because it strengthens the actual diversity of ethnic groups, something globohomo does not like.

Blacks themselves are already starting to do this with things like the black Hebrews movement

>socioeconomic stresses
Why such "socioeconomic stresses" persist for all generations in the entire world only for blacks? Why did the colonized asians managed to create first world countries in capitalist societies?

>>14687668
>>14687661
>There's nowhere in Africa that was untouched by Europe. That's a blatant fact. Not up for debate. Europeans fucked the entire continent and are continuing to do so today. Particularly America
PS the fact that you're posting stupid shit titled "the case for colonialism!" really says it all. Really says all that needs to be said about the place of pure, blind, hateful political agenda that you're coming from. You basically are arguing for pro-slavery. That whites should enslave black people

>>14687657
>Ok so you’re a racist.
Uh, thanks?

>Why get mad when Wikipedia authors fall you fags out for it?
They should be more explicit about their agenda instead of pretending to be neutral and scientific.

>>14687670
>Why such "socioeconomic stresses" persist for all generations in the entire world only for blacks? Why did the colonized asians managed to create first world countries in capitalist societies?
Because this is what I mean when I say IQ is culturally determined. This is your cultural value. You have this value that creating a bunch of retarded industry that pollutes the planet and literally destroys our ecosystem is somehow "good". Except it's not. You're destroying the planet. But you're so wrapped up in your own retarded western values, and judging everyone else by them, that you can't see through your own objectively incorrect bullshit

>>14687652
The fact that black people in this country
>were slaves
>liberated and purposely kept from education
>purposely kept from voting
>Jim Crow laws
>kept from the GI bill that fostered the growth of the middle class
>redlined into ghettos
>segregated until the 60s
To this day there is inequality in education via purposely keeping white districts better funded. Thinking that this had zero effect is complete nonsense

>>14687680
>To this day there is inequality in education via purposely keeping white districts better funded.
Kek generations of slavery is the reason why DeMarcus can't solve basic addition and math in elementary school .

>>14687674
Oh so your literally genocidal agenda can’t be pointed out?

>>14687660
>You're an idiot if you think capitalist white society is anything moral or superior to what exists in other places though
It does seem to be that way since apparently everyone wants to live where white people are. Moverover, pic related seems to show white values are great and conducive to a functional developed society.

>Capitalist white society has, quite factually, enslaved the world
It actually didn't, furthermore no slavery was worse than Muslim slavery (African and middle eastern then), which still happens to this day.

>and is devoid of all morals
Why would they fight wars to end slavery? Whites were the only and the first to actually do that.

I should remember that "native americans" were the first slave owners in america, and they also had white slaves, "minorities" aren't the supreme good and whites are not evil

>>14687682
The argument is that all those factors contribute to the culture and enviroment that they grow in, such culture can influence their general interest and effort in school for example.

>>14687688
Dude just think of how brainwashed you are. People want to live in the US because your country goes around the world fucking up literally every other place. Anytime anyone, ANYWHERE in the globe embraces a government that is in any way legitimately left of center, your CIA or military comes and assassinates their leaders, or funds and armed rightwing insurgents. Or, at minimum, you wage economic war on them with sanctions, causing them great poverty. You do that 2nd part along with all of Europe and the rest of your beloved white race

You're just fucking sick like most rightwingers and find ways to spin your own evil as being somehow a virtue

>>14687693
>The argument is that all those factors contribute to the culture and enviroment that they grow in, such culture can influence their general interest and effort in school for example.
Culture has nothing to do with being so stupid you struggle with basic subtraction and addition in elementary school. If a white kid went to elementary school and struggled he would be called slow or dumb when its a black its because of institutional racism and generations of oppressions. Now we have to hear how math is racist.

The data on race and IQ has been around for a long time but only now is the left really pushing back on it because they realize that people are fed up with their excuses for black behavior and looking for alternative answers.

>>14687687
>genocidal agenda
No one has killed and created more suffering in the history in mankind than leftists, that us, revolutionaries. Just from 1917 to 1990 there were more absolute deaths from genocide than in the entire history of religious wars, greek wars, roman wars, etc.

Yet leftists, who now follow the frankfurtian school flavor of communism, dare to say others have a genocidal agenda.

You can go fuck yourself, the only ones with a sadistic agenda are the same the repeat what you say, they pass laws that allow niggers to rob, murder and rape, and be sanctified for it

>>14687695
>>14687688
>Dude just think of how brainwashed you are. People want to live in the US because your country goes around the world fucking up literally every other place. Anytime anyone, ANYWHERE in the globe embraces a government that is in any way legitimately left of center, your CIA or military comes and assassinates their leaders, or funds and armed rightwing insurgents. Or, at minimum, you wage economic war on them with sanctions, causing them great poverty. You do that 2nd part along with all of Europe and the rest of your beloved white race
>You're just fucking sick like most rightwingers and find ways to spin your own evil as being somehow a virtue
PS no one ever said "whites are evil". That's your own idiotic rhetoric and strawman. But the people like you who openly defend the white past of slavery and colonization, which was so widespread, and so brutal, and which is perpetuated in different ways into the modern age, is evil

Because you won't look around you and see how slavery, colonization, jim crow and modern day rightwing policies are still enslaving and exploiting people, while POC ARE willing to do that, THAT is why you're evil and why people throw up their hands and say "jesus, just replace these assholes already"

Also shit like pic related, where you rightwingers literally steal democracy from the rest of the country and you don't think the rest of the country, whom you disenfranchise, is going to fight back by trying to replace you? Because you think they're going to have some "Racial loyalty" or something? Obviously you don't have any "racial loyalty" to white liberals in cities. LMFAO

So, you're getting replaced for your own evil. And all of the rhetoric against you is for your own evil. Not because "you're white". It's because you're a disgusting, psychopathic rightwinger and because most of the white race has decided that disgusting, psychopathic rightwing politics is what they want to hitch themselves to. So that is the issue

>>14687695
>People want to live in the US because your country goes around the world fucking up literally every other place.
Not just the US. Also Australia, Canada, Ireland, Sweden, Netherlands, New Zealand, Italy, Slovenia, etc.

So if you support racially segregated societies because black people have lower iq as a group... why not just sort people by iq?

>>14687705
>>>14687695
>>>14687688
And also because you're clearly trying to sell a racial agenda that everyone other than whites are inferior, and thus should be re-enslaved, or otherwise oppressed. That's another reason everyone hates you

That is evil

Because you do that, and because most whites are at-least-OK with it by voting for MAGA. And because MAGA is capitalism and the enslavement of the entire human race.

These are the reasons people are fed up with whites

>>14687705
>lso shit like pic related, where you rightwingers literally steal democracy from the rest of the countr
Democracy has never exsisted and if it did in America than The civil rights movement and the immigration act of 1965 would of never happened since the majority of white Americans opposed it.

>>14687711
Yeah all the white places go around militarily or economically fucking up all of the nonwhite places. Has been the story since the beginning of time, unfortunately

>>14687715
You are the side of politics that opposes democracy, so what the fuck are you bitching about. You on the rightwing are the people that, inexplicably, have this fucking hatred of democracy. Which is what your entire comment is anyway

Rightwingers do this really disgusting thing where they pretend to bitch about the policies that THEY SUPPORT as if they're somehow against them

Yeah, you are the one that hates democracy, so you don't let us have it. Inexcusable fucking moron

>>14687722
>You on the rightwing are the people that, inexplicably, have this fucking hatred of democracy.
of course because democracy is fake and gay. What I am saying that if we lived in an actual democracy White people would of never consented to shitskins like you flooding their lands.

>>14687723
Yeah OK great well you're the fucking retard who opposes democracy. So like I'm not sure how you're not getting this here. I'm not sure how you're own fucking idiocy, just based on what you're typing and your own values, isn't clicking with you here

>>14687695
>Anytime anyone, ANYWHERE in the globe embraces a government that is in any way legitimately left of center, your CIA or military comes and assassinates their leaders, or funds and armed rightwing insurgents
Leftists destroyed my country you fucking idiot (I'm latin american), they have alliances with narcotraffickers and mafias (which they themselves created in their terrorist time) who terrorize the people on a daily basis. They defend banditism because of leftists like Herbert Marcuse who supported the usage of the scum as something "highly revolutionary". They always promote impunity of criminals everywhere.

The left is also destroying everything it touches in the USA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw8MACDZ3RI

>>14687725
>>14687723
>Yeah OK great well you're the fucking retard who opposes democracy. So like I'm not sure how you're not getting this here. I'm not sure how you're own fucking idiocy, just based on what you're typing and your own values, isn't clicking with you here
Like lemme just try to SAT question logic your way through this for you

1) you are some white race advocate, you love the white race
2) you hate democracy
3) you believe the white race is dying
4) you believe if you had democracy, the white race would survive
5) you still hate democracy

Like seriously you people are just subhumanly stupid. Your thinking is SO disorganized and stupid. You make all of your own problems with your own stupidity and ignorance, truthfully, but the problem is you also make all of our problems. Because everyone is affected by your stupidity and ignorance

>>14687726
Yeah, that's not what happens, you're just an ignorant rightwing brainwashed moron. If you're in Latin America then I assure you it's the USA who screwed your country up. It's not a conspiracy theory, the CIA files are declassified

>>14687725
>Yeah OK great well you're the fucking retard who opposes democracy.
Yeah because democracy is fake and gay. In 2015 Switzerland had a referendum on weather to take in migrants and the majority voted no. So they just voted again until they got yes. "The people have spoken". The EU is sanctioning Hungary because they held a referendum in which the majority of people voted No to letting their schools teach butt sex. Kek

>>14687737
Man you're fucking dumb. It's just like I posted up here >>14687732. You people are just subhumanly retarded can't basic logic

>>14687627
I can’t believe they fell for the easy bait

>>14687732
If we had real democracy than white people would never consent to letting shitskins into their countries. But we don't. Therefore I hate democracy because its fake and gay. It's not hard to understand. I don't believe that whites need democracy to survive considering we've survived a long time without it. What we need to do is remove the jewish vermin that have captured our governments.

burn the library of alexandra down because, in some book somewhere, there is an editorial bias that you don't like

you are the culture war it's talking about

>>14687750
Oh yeah, of course, "the jewish vermin". Naturally. Every one of you retards is on about "the jewish vermin"

Dude just try to look at how disorganized your own thinking is, even just on the surface of it. I tried to explain the blatant contradiction here >>14687732. IDK what else to say.

Your disgusting shit about "the jewish vermin" is another thing. This is shit people just don't want to put up with. There are just too many white people out there who are hella racist and trying to enact racist policies, and surprise surprise, people aren't going to just lay down and let you exterminate them. I know that's super surprising for an entitled rightwinger like you, but when you try to kill people they like...try to fight back so they can survive

>>14687695
>Or, at minimum, you wage economic war on them with sanctions, causing them great poverty
This one is really funny since leftists always say before their revolution that the problem was american interventionism (see Cuba), but then the problem becomes the lack of capitalism?

Also, in the case of Venezuela they were already in deep shit before the USA even sanctioned a known associate of Islamic terrorism and dictatorship

>You're just fucking sick like most rightwingers and find ways to spin your own evil as being somehow a virtue
That's what YOU fucking leftists do and accuse the others of doing. Not a single influential leftist had any fucking virtue, they were all scum.

Anyone who studies the lives of each of them will discover that Voltaire, Diderot, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Sade, Karl Marx, Tolstoy, Bertolt Brecht, Lenin, Stalin, Fidel Castro, Che Guevara, Mao Dzedong, Bertrand Russell, Jean-Paul Sartre, Max Horkheimer, Theodor Adorno, Georg Lukács, Antonio Gramsci, Lillian Hellman, Michel Foucault, Louis Althuser, Norman Mailer, Noam Chomsky and tutti quanti were sadistic individuals, obsessively liars, cynical profiteers, vain to the point of dementia, devoid of any higher moral feeling and of any good intention however minimal, except perhaps in the sense of using the noblest words to name the most despicable acts. Many have committed murder personally, without ever showing remorse. Others were rapists or exploiters of women, vile oppressors of their employees, abusers of their wives and children. Others, proudly pedophiles.

/pol/ says intellectuals are demons so really it should be praising the "dumb blacks"

>>14687757
No one on the left ever said a problem was "lack of capitalism". No one ever said that. Didn't happen. Nothing I said previously, in the comment you replied to, would suggest such a thing. Your comment is just retarded, non sequitur gibberish of the sort that's common on /pol/ when you retards reply to someone who isn't on your level of stupidity

>>14687757
ad hom you stupid virgin

>>14687762
The greatest irony of course is that all of the people who think "blacks have low IQs!" are the ones with the literal 75-85 average IQ range. They're people who literally live in trailers. Are, themselves, socioeconomically stressed. They're people, by all rights, should be voting for the far left in order to help themselves, but they don't. And that's a huge part of everyone's frustration with them too

They're so racist and hateful that they'll vote themselves further into poverty if they just perceive it's hurting black people more.

Universal healthcare? Nah, fuck that. These poor hillbillies don't have healthcare and have tons of medical debt, but they calculate that blacks will be hurt more by the rightwing capitalist policies

>>14687756
>blatant contradiction here
there isn't a contradiction I simply understand more about politics than you do. You actually think democracy is real. It proves you don't know anything.
>. There are just too many white people out there who are hella racist and trying to enact racist policie
If you think Republicans are racist than you are a delusional dumbass. You have no idea what real racists look like.
>and surprise surprise, people aren't going to just lay down and let you exterminate them
No one is trying to exterminate anyone and if they did the so called foriegners coming to the West will just tuck their tail between their legs and flee back home. I know this because they fled their homelands. Lets not act like you are invaders and conquerors. You are beggars and refugees exploiting the generosity of a group of people that have been brainwashed to put the interests of others before their own.

>>14687767
they're NPC's mate

>>14687769
such insight

>>14687767
>>14687762
>The greatest irony of course is that all of the people who think "blacks have low IQs!" are the ones with the literal 75-85 average IQ range. They're people who literally live in trailers. Are, themselves, socioeconomically stressed. They're people, by all rights, should be voting for the far left in order to help themselves, but they don't. And that's a huge part of everyone's frustration with them too
>They're so racist and hateful that they'll vote themselves further into poverty if they just perceive it's hurting black people more.
>Universal healthcare? Nah, fuck that. These poor hillbillies don't have healthcare and have tons of medical debt, but they calculate that blacks will be hurt more by the rightwing capitalist policies
Also, the funniest thing you'll learn about /pol/ if you spend lots of time there (which I don't recommend) is that the posters there are actually extremely, extremely, extremely, extremely insecure. They have SUPER deep insecurities about their own failures in life and shortcomings. And that's what motivates a lot of the far right LARPing. Also lots are gay, and they're trying to overcompensate for their own gay feelings by hating gays.

It's an entire role reversal thing. Basically everything they pretend they hate on /pol/ is, largely, to some degree or another, what they see in themselves. That's even true of black people because black people are poor and low on the rungs of the social ladder, just like them.

>>14687627
>Even if, by some chance, it's not true that the IQs are generally equal, genetically, no one cares. Literally no one cares anyway.
Who the hell do you think you're kidding?

>>14687705
>PS no one ever said "whites are evil"
Haha no, just "whiteness"

Though sometimes your mates are more explicit
https://archive.is/Sokts

>>14687776
hence, gigachads and z0ijaks

>>14687668
Didn't human life start in Africa? Why wasn't Africa developed before Europe since they had a head start?

to be clear, i think the neoliberal trajectory leads right off a cliff, but /pol/tards are annoying and are only harming themselves

>>14687788
you think development is satanic, so why do you think being less developed is a negative trait all of a sudden?

>>14687794
I'm not whatever anon you were talking to, I'm just asking, how did European interference fuck over the development of Africa, when Africa was populated by humans before Europe?

>>14687788
>Didn't human life start in Africa?
The out of Africa theory has been thoroughly debunked numerous times.
And the reason why Africans are stupid is precisely because Africa is a paradise on earth. There are no harsh winters and food grows wild year around. You simply don't have to be smart to survive in Africa so Africans are stupid.

>>14687800
what's your opinion of virology?

>>14687801
what's your opinion on the large hadron collider?

>>14687801
>There are no harsh winters and food grows wild year around.
Not enough to prevent starvation.

>>14687810
>Not enough to prevent starvation.
Which is why Africans are so violent and kill eachother so much.

>>14687705
>shit like pic related, where you rightwingers literally steal democracy from the rest of the country
This has to be a fucking joke

In my country (Brazil) literal communists (i.e. leftists) are in the supreme court trying to eliminate the candidate and current president that the people actually support. His (bolsonaro) supporters are censored and persecuted via judicial decisions that have ZERO basis on the constitution. Moreover, the president of the judicial ministry (STJ) along with Alexandre de morais (one of the stf judges) said the brazillian judicial system embraced the globalist climate "cause" even though the Brazilian society did not. What kind of fucking democracy is that where a bunch of leftists in the judiciary can impose their agendas to the people? The situation is so bad here that even the Senate invited the supreme court judges to explain their activism. By the way the Senate should have impeached the judges already but the issue is that a lot of the centrists there have corruption cases which were archived or not progressing at all, evidently the judges can use this as a blackmail of sorts.

We also have the disarmament referendum which the majority of the population voted against (that is, voted in favor guns right), nevertheless the leftist government ignored it. And yet you have the nerve to call right wingers destroyers of democracy you fucking clown?

Moreover, the supreme court leftists also released a communist who was condemned and arrested for the biggest corruption cases in the history of mankind (see petrolão, mensalão, etc.) which also sent money for other communist dictatorships in the expense of the actual Brazilian people (who are in the majority conservative) just so he could be a candidate in this years election.

>>14687627
I know you are trolling, but please kill yourself.

>>14687716
>all the white places go around militarily or economically fucking up all of the nonwhite places
Ireland? Are you fucking kidding me?
And why would they deserve hordes of rapefuges for that?

>>14687820
what degrees do you have

>>14687713
>And also because you're clearly trying to sell a racial agenda that everyone other than whites are inferior, and thus should be re-enslaved
I don't remember saying that though, and far as I know the first thing the freed american blacks did in Africa after being given a country was enslaving the locals (see liberia)

I do defend the separation of races as opposed to the global homogenization of cultures, races and ethnicities, which is what globohomo wants.

Obviously for aesthetic and social reasons I consider whites and asians superior to blacks. If you're saying this justifies slavering blacks that's your sexual fantasy, not mine

>>14687722
>Rightwingers do this really disgusting thing where they pretend to bitch about the policies that THEY SUPPORT as if they're somehow against them
What?

>>14687627
>Even if, by some chance, it's not true that the IQs are generally equal, genetically, no one cares.
although the post is bait, this is something that I think about a lot. I've known a lot of people both smarter and dumber than me that have had conversations about race and this was a general trend that I've encountered. like even if you had an ultra mechanistic most fundamental level proof of how gene variants and their combination effect intelligence and the specific mechanism that they did so, and then you could examine humans to determine across populations how things were etc, most people say that it shouldn't matter or that they wouldn't care
its crazy to me that people think this way, not because people should be killed or whatever other extreme shit over it, but because surely if you could show that it was the case then it would make the most sense to design social/economic/medical/educational etc policy around that information for the benefit of everyone, rather than push forward with a purely 'tabula rasa' style of policy?

>>14687833
intellectuals are satanic
i hate the antichrist

>>14687736
>If you're in Latin America then I assure you it's the USA who screwed your country up. It's not a conspiracy theory, the CIA files are declassified
The Moscow archives were also declassified you fucking idiot, we know about soviet agents in Brazil and their infiltration. It is also know communists attempted a coup to implement communism here by force. We even have people who went to Cuba to be trained as terrorists (José dirceu).

Things were much, much better before communists took over via the cultural and infiltration method I assure you of that.

Also, in a way you're kind of right since it's the american progressives who finance all the communist scum in my country (bill and Melinda gates foundation, soros open society, Rockefellers, etc.). It's always been this way, communists were ALWAYS financed by the "big capital" because ultimately communism creates an environment where metacapitalists have zero competition.

>>14687843
>(/pol/ buzzword, /pol/ buzzword, /pol/ buzzword, etc.)
outstanding. don't shoot up any malls.

>>14687762
>/pol/ says intellectuals are demons
The leftist ones are, this is abundantly clear if you study their biographies.

On the other hand, the representatives of the opposing currents, conservative or reactionary, as I discovered with even greater surprise, were almost invariably human beings of high moral quality, attested not only in the suitability of their intellectual work, where one will find nothing of the monstrous frauds perpetrated by a Voltaire, a Diderot or a Karl Marx, but also in the circumstances of everyday life and in the most rigorous tests of existence.

One will hardly find any shameful chapters in the biography of Pascal, of Leibniz, of Bossuet, of Donoso Cortés, of Joseph de Maistre, of John Henry Newman, of Edmund Burke, of Vladimir Soloviev, of Nikolai Berdiaev, Alexis de Tocqueville, Edmund Husserl, Ludwig von Mises, Benjamin Disraeli, Russell Kirk, Xavier Zubiri, Louis Lavelle, Garrigou-Lagrange, Joseph Maréchal, Victor Frankl, Marcel De Corte, and so many others. On the contrary, these lives overflowed with examples of greatness, generosity, courage, and humility. And even those who admittedly sinned, such as Dostoevsky, Winston Churchill, Charles de Gaule, Ronald Reagan, or Maurice Barrès, never boasted about it like Rousseau or Brecht, much less tried to cover up their shame with an ingenious web of self-flattering lies like Voltaire or Diderot.

To take the comparison to its ultimate consequences, even the most notorious reactionary dictators, Franco, Salazar and Pinochet, with all the political crimes they committed, maintained in their personal lives a standard of morality incomparably higher than that of the revolutionary tyrants. At least they did not have their closest friends and comrades-in-arms killed, like Stalin, Hitler and Fidel Castro, nor did they rape underage girls like Mao Dzedong did.

>>14687861

>>14687764
>ad hom you stupid virgin
I was replying to him saying how evil right wingers are, when reality is the opposite, but I guess we got a commie here so I will expand my point since I knew a moron would say that

>>14687870
List the last five textbooks you worked through.

>>14687870
>>14687764
There are, of course, a good many scoundrels among writers and especially politicians of the right, and we will easily discover them if we broaden the spectrum under examination to encompass those of medium and small scale.

But in a comparison between the maximally influential characters of the two camps, one cannot fail to notice the moral superiority of the rightists and the complete absence of a single morally good type among the leftists: they are all bad, without exception.

As I accumulated reading and the knowledge of the biographies of the authors I read, I could no longer escape the conclusion: it was impossible that the moral makeup of these two groups was not reflected in some way in their ideas. Ideas, after all, are not Platonic forms hovering in the abstract in eternity. They are acts of human intelligence, they are reactions of flesh and blood people to concrete situations, and they are also expressions of their desires, fears and ambitions.

There was, on the other hand, the evangelical test: the fruits. The ideas of the great revolutionary gurus had everywhere produced nothing but devastation and death in proportions never before seen in all previous history, and nowhere near comparable to any harm that might ever have resulted from conservative ideas.

The French Revolution alone killed ten times as many people in one year as the Spanish Inquisition did in four centuries. All in all - and, ad argumentandum, even excluding Nazism from the revolutionary tradition to which it unequivocally belongs - the regimes inspired by the ideas of these gurus have surpassed, in absolute number of victims, not only the total number of deaths that have previously occurred in all known civilizations, but also the death rates registered in all epidemics, earthquakes and hurricanes of the 20th century.

>>14687874
imagine having a copypasta prepared for anyone who points out your mental faeces

>>14687874
Even considered only from a quantitative point of view, the "revolutionary ideal", in short, was the greatest scourge that has ever befallen the human species. Even if we were to look at the reactionary thinkers only for the evil they may have caused voluntarily or involuntarily, their deeds, as a whole, could never compete, not even remotely, with this cosmic plethora of the bloody and the macabre that is the curriculum vitae of the masters of the revolution.

If ideas born from malformed souls proliferated in harmful consequences, it would be absolutely imbecile to insist on seeing in this a mere accumulation of coincidences, which would itself have to be the coincidence of coincidences, the most inexplicable mystery of human history.

Of course, there is no point in refuting ideas by claiming the poor human quality of their authors. They have to be examined in themselves and subjected to the test of reality, not morality. But it also makes no sense to confuse the critical examination of the factual consistency and veracity of ideas with the understanding of their historical significance, of the role they play in the unfolding of events.

In the latter case, the simple statement in itself obvious that the evil intentions of wicked men generally produce evil effects is amply confirmed by the examples cited, and this confirmation has little or nothing to do, logically, with the problem of whether these intentions were realized through philosophical-scientific errors or through truths placed in the service of evil.

>>14687882
In other words, the radical condemnation that the works of these men deserve from a moral point of view is independent of the logical criticism of the partial or total truthfulness or falsity of their theories, and the latter is independent of the former. I am warning you of this because I know that the usual smarties will infallibly appear, claiming that I am refuting theories by means of ad hominem arguments - a claim that is far removed from the subject I am discussing here.

But, on the other hand, all this does not mean that, apart from any intention of moral judgment, those ideas have not already been sufficiently examined from a logical-critical point of view, nor that they have done very well under examination. Theories like Rousseau's "social contract", Marx's "surplus value", Lukács' "possible consciousness", Max Horkheimer's "authoritarian personality", etc., have already turned to atomic dust in the critical laboratory and today only survive as exemplary chapters in the history of universal pseudoscience. No ad hominem argument is needed to knock what is already dead.

>>14687876
I hate you leftists so fucking much

The board of PETA - People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, a vaunted NGO that in the name of animal rights says horrors about people who eat meat, wear fur coats, or go to the circus - has been sued for the slaughter of thousands of cats and dogs. Employees of the organization collected the animals from public depots, saying that they would find families to adopt them. The people at the depots didn't even think to doubt the agents of a famous and politically correct institution. Days later the PETA men were surprised to dump the corpses of 14,400 animals on a vacant lot in garbage bags. (Read the full story at www.petakillsanimals.com )

Also the remnants of the Khmer Rouge, the genocidal organization led by the infamous Pol-Pot, were tried by a court in Phnom Penh, Cambodia, after all the oh so kind UN did to free them from such inhuman embarrassment. These terrorists came to power with the help of millions of young American and European militants who, manipulated by a network of leftist organizations and an army of arts and letters pop stars, marched "for peace" in the 1960s under pretty idealistic and humanitarian pretexts, forcing the US to give up a victorious war, pull out of South Vietnam, and leave the way open for Communists armed by China to invade that country and neighboring Cambodia. The end result of the massacre: three million civilians dead, more than three times the total casualties of the war. Read the full story in Mark Moyar, Triumph Forsaken. The Vietnam War, 1954-1965 (Cambridge University Press, 2006).

The parallel between the slaughter of animals and that of human beings is not fortuitous: in both cases a compelling discourse, condensed into hard-hitting slogans repeated ad nauseam by the media, cloaked a gang of murderous sociopaths in moral prestige, criminalizing those who opposed their macabre plans and turning innocent citizens into accomplices of the worst in the world.

why's he so butthurt that marx pointed out the appalling condition of the working class in victorian england?

hello anons. OP here. looks like you got into arguing about your own personal feelings on race and IQ and colonialism and capitalism and stuff. but nobody at all in the whole thread discussed the article i posted about in OP.

did anybody read it? any thoughts on it? or even just something related to its topic like the editor policies of race&intelligence on Wikipedia?

>>14687889
you are just another fat, propagandised burger

>>14687894
wikipedia is great

>>14687644
>accusing someone else of cope
>these levels of projection

>>14687915
high IQ is satanic

>>14687652
>Delusional unsourced nonsense
That's all you've posted so far though, not a single source to back you

>>14687676
>Because this is what I mean when I say IQ is culturally determined. This is your cultural value.
Why asians cultures and europeans cultures weren't affected by "socioeconomic stresses"?

>>14687921
why do you sound indian?

>>14687763
>No one on the left ever said a problem was "lack of capitalism".
that's essentially what complaining about sanctions means, complaining about the lack of capitalism for their country

>>14687921
oh also, go to britain, interact with the locals and tell me the average mongoloid isn't affected by socioeconomic stresses

>>14687894
wikipedia is community driven and most of the people terminally online enough to edit wikipedia are willing pursue an agenda when it comes to relevant topics to them
race and related studies are a hot topic and nobody high up is going to tell people that they need to be 'fair and balanced' when it comes to it, and its far easier for the community to enforce editing policies that uphold the status quo based on consensus
as such it wont change

>>14687680
This is misleading at best and an outright lie at worst.

1. First off IQ and education have nothing to do with each other. Someone with a high IQ doesn't mean they can recite shit from some textbook they never read

2. The reason the funding is not the same is because it is based on the property taxes of the people in the district of that school you mouth breathing ape. It isnt some nefarious conspiracy and there has been bussing and school choice since the 70's you fucktard simpleton.

3. A black school was given the most funding of any school in the country as a famous case study and absolutely nothing changed as anyone who isnt an imbecile would expect. Throwing money at people isnt going to make them smarter.

Being who and what you are I will go out on a limb and assume you are purposefully lying since it is most often the case with you sacks of shit

>>14687767
>The greatest irony of course is that all of the people who think "blacks have low IQs!" are the ones with the literal 75-85 average IQ range. They're people who literally live in trailers.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46856779

>>14687627
>genetically, no one cares. Literally no one cares anyway.
Let's not care about real things in life. Why should we explain worst performance in schools, higher rates in crime. let's just not care.

>>14687936
You know you're fucked when this retard is on your team.

>>14687767
>Universal healthcare?
https://mises.org/library/truth-about-swedencare

>These poor hillbillies don't have healthcare and have tons of medical debt
https://mises.org/wire/how-government-regulations-made-healthcare-so-expensive

>>14687776
>arachnophobic? that means you secretly want to fuck spiders

>>14687776
>>14687781

>>14687764
>ad hom you stupid virgin

Are we talking to bots or just the usual trannies?

>>14687942
oy vey goy universal healthcare wud be anudda shoah

>>14687944
i am the voice thundering in your head and the nanobots buzzing around your keyboard

>>14687833
>most people say that it shouldn't matter or that they wouldn't care
Ask them if they would want their children to have be smart or not

>>14687952
>i fucking love science!!!!!!!!!!!!
being smart is satanic

>>14687930
>oh also, go to britain
good example, hong kong used to be a british colony, yet look at them now

i guess that british colonialism didn't destroy their IQ-giving "culture", nah, that only happens to the kangz for some reason

>>14687680
>Jim Crow laws
>kept from the GI bill that fostered the growth of the middle class
>>redlined into ghettos


Also none of this has anything what so ever to do with the conversation at hand. This is a gish gallup of whatever you can try to pull out of your ass because all of this applies to every other foreign race in the US and none of them have the same problem negroes have. This has been explained to you in detail before also when you brought this up, which you just ignored because you got rekt so hard you couldnt respond. But like all the scammy leftist sacks of shit you just try to pass it off again in the future on an unsuspecting audience and hope no one calls you out on it again.

Let this be a less to you anons reading this of what kind of people you are dealing with. They are the lowest lying scumbags you will ever encounter. They will lie with every breath they take and attack anyone that exposes them for what they are, then pretend like none of it ever happened just like people with a mental illness. (which they are)

>>14687945
you should thank God that you don't have a "universal" socialized healthcare like Brazil does, the reality of such systems is the same everywhere, be it brazil or sweden of the uk or canada. Long waiting lines, lack of drugs, lack of doctors, incompetent nurses, downright sociopathic doctors and nurses (public hospital horror stories are common here), people dying trying to schedule an exam, etc.

It's so simple, if a service is given for free and the demand for it is infinite, eventually the system collapses

>>14687933
the thing you learn if you read the article though, is that until early 2020 the wikipedia articles on this topic did include material based on sources that supported a genetic element to race IQ differences. and official wikipedia rulings by arbitrators supported that. BUT it all changed radically since then. contrary to what you say there has been a major revision to wikipedia articles on race&intelligence since 2020 spearheaded by an activist group who has convinced the Wikipedia crowd that all those sources that used to be there are now “fringe” and they’ve scrubbed massive amounts of stuff over the last 2 years. so it’s the opposite of wikipedia being an immovable consensus—the wikipedia policy has moved rapidly in 2 years thanks to some leftist wikipedia activists

>>14687971
>But like all the scammy leftist sacks of shit you just try to pass it off again in the future on an unsuspecting audience and hope no one calls you out on it again.
This is a common property of the revolutionary mentality

>Today, billions of people around the world, regardless of their beliefs and ideologies, can no longer conceive the Good except in the form of a future society, of sin except as opposition to the advent of that society, of eternity except as some kind of "social justice" (conceptions vary) to be achieved in the perpetual instant of the next century, the next millennium or who knows when.

>Since, however, instants pass and the future never arrives because it remains future by definition, no one can look back and confess the heinous sins and crimes they committed to reach it. The invisible cult of the perpetual instant not only absolves by tacit decree the killings, genocides, horror and inhumanity of the revolutionary regimes, but gives all the activists in the world the license to continue oppressing and killing indefinitely, always in the name of the hypothetical beauties of an impossible future.

>This is the inherently anti-human and diabolical force that makes multitudes serve evil in the name of good.

>>14687971
link the thread in your pic bro, it has an image there

>>14687986
it was this image

but here is the link
https://archived.moe/sci/thread/14589849/#14589897

I dont think moe keeps full sized images, not all of them anyway. warosu does though butt their archives of /sci/ are spotty and have large gaps

>>14687990
>I dont think moe keeps full sized images, not all of them anyway. warosu does though butt their archives of /sci/ are spotty and have large gaps
Use archiving pages to archive the images. It has to be done before the thread is down though

>>14687993
I use a name specifically to make it easy for me and other to find my previous posts. There is no shill argument I havent thoroughly trounced countless times with an effort post at some point int he past. I have all the images I post so I dont need to save them again.

>>14687644
>There's nowhere in Africa that was untouched by Europe. Nowhere. Nowhere that wasn't fucked up by them.
Why do people even attempt to post nonsense like this on /sci/
There’s plenty of places in South America that are untouched by white colonists even today and South America has been colonised by Europeans for nearly 500 years
Why would Africa that has only been colonised for 120 years not have any untouched parts? The Congo alone would be full of uncontacted tribes

>>14688004
>120
Meant 140

>>14688004
because they are basically illiterate trannies and negroes whose only "education" consists of social justice courses taught by other indoctrinated droolers and grifters like tariq nashid Ibrim x kindy and kimberly crenshaw et al on twatter and their associated retard blogs

>>14687627
If africans are so smart, why didn't they colonize Europe before Europeans did it to them?

>>14687680

>>14687627
>genetics are irrelevant to IQ
wrong, apply yourself
start here: https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf

>It's probably true, based on all information, that black and white IQs are the same
except they are not and thats well documented
the trend persists for africans that live in western nations for several generations
every year in the SAT scores you can see the exact same divide in cognitive ability between the main ethnicities
>socioeconomic stresses that have been placed on black by white society
opression myth
colonialism is over since more than a century
the reason why their societies are so much less productive is due to their own incompetence
>Even if, by some chance, it's not true that the IQs are generally equal, genetically, no one cares
>w-well, its not important anyways
yes it is when it comes to policy, as policy that assumes equal cognitive ability between ethnicities will fall flat
you can see that manifest in college admission where skin color is a deciding factor and affirmative action has to be used to get (even more) incompetent people into academia
>Literally no one cares anyway
yes, people DO care
unfortunately some people would rip out their ass hair rather than admitting what should be common knowledge
>No one wants to live in a world of race war
true, and you make sure that the divide persists by pretending that uneven things are equal
>/pol/ will use even a slight variance in genetic intelligence to attempt to justify
the variance is more than a standard deviation
also genetics are an excellent explanation for the massive overrrepresentation of blacks in crime statistics by orders of magnitude

unfortunately /pol/sters are making quite a solid point, thats why you are blundering
>hurp but thats cultural
ok then which parts of black "culture" foster criminality and antisocial behaviour?

>>14687973
It's so simple: if a service is for-profit and the demand for it is infinite, eventually the system collapses

>>14688076
you're saying you believe in genes and evolution?

>>14687519
I've noticed it on a few articles myself. It's extremely annoying and out of place.

>>14688089
>you believe in genes and evolution?
yes.
like everyone that has even the slightest clue on evolutionary biology.

only retarded people genuinely seek information on wikipedia. it is well known how oddly the editing works there.

4chan is literally a more viable source of info than wikipedia, which speaks volumes.

>>14688153
This would indicate that you generally go looking for political shit rather than STEM topics, which prompts me to ask: what the fuck are you doing on /sci/?

>>14688172
he’s got a point though, aside from undergrad-level science, wikipedia science articles are generally shit, at least in the field of my PhD

>>14688172
>this would indicate that you generally go looking for
what about my post suggested that I go looking for anything whatsoever on that used public cumrag of an arbitrarily edited website moderated by people with less intelligence than even you?

>>14687940

The bad school performance is well explained by #1 especially when you compare non-american blacks to actual blacks. The consequences of #2 are potentially the total subjugation of science to bigotry, which we've tried before and it didn't turn out well.

The fears are plenty justified and for every 1 respectable voice on race and intelligence there's 99 anti-intellectual racists trying to prove something else. Scientists have a duty to defend their profession from being hijacked by people who will use it to harm others, and /pol/ has promised this in the form of a race war.

>>14688201
So you're saying you have strong opinions about the content of Wikipedia although you don't read it.

>>14688004

>There’s plenty of places in South America that are untouched by white colonists even today and South America has been colonised by Europeans for nearly 500 years

Those "plenty of places" tended to be very isolated and had subjects in the low hundreds, at best. There is no practical way to test such a population without influencing them, and even if we could the numbers are too low to allow for a suitable control. Most of those places were entirely gone by 1850. For South America, all of it has been touched and colonized by Europeans which is why the dominant religion is catholicism and the dominant language spanish. Even the most rural, isolated, illiterate peasants in honduras or peru know who the pope is. It's why they keep allowing leftist guerillas into their communities so they can shoot loggers, oil workers, tax men and americans.

>>14688226
do you have strong opinions about not burning your own house down although you haven't done so?

>>14687941
it should be real simple to dispute a retard, yet this was your response. I guess that makes you more retarded than a retard?

>>14688247
siding with a schizo retard -- that's a paddlin'

Maybe IQ differences could be due to bad environmental factors damaging brain development in children. For example, lack of sanitation, bad nutrition, psychological stress due to violence etc

>>14688254
name calling is the last resort of a mental midget who gets pwned so hard he has no other response. I will consider this your formal capitulation

>>14688255
No one will really know since researching it is taboo

>>14688262
yeah kinda hard when leftists are gonna scream "racist" and righties gonna scream "globalist"

>>14688288
No only leftists are in fault.

>>14688299
nah they still gonna insist in genetics

>>14688321
pretty sure only leftists are in fault and are the only group of people who have ruined this whole world, USA and Europe and white race altogether.

>>14688256
insults aren't ad hominem arguments, fag. they're just insults.
don't listen to this poster, for he has never had sex. there's your ad hominem.

>>14688299
>>14688323
i can see you're a stoic rational thinker. let me guess, you're counting on a horde of chechen fucktards to pour through the fulda gap and liberate europe from globohomo using industrial strength rape?

>>14688333
yes

>>14688323
Whites may have started the shit fest on Africa for being in the right place at the right time, but they stay like this because of their own bullshit
Asians are doing a lot better after the colonial period

>>14688341
Literally has nothing to do with my post

>>14688344
do I look like I care

>>14687630
Not one thing you said here was scientific. Just hyper liberal regurgitation

/pol/ - Men of Science

>>14688333
>doesn't know about eurasianism
>has no idea about who dugin is
>doesn't know dugin was destroyed in a debate and globohomo is just as bad as the eurasianism power project

>>14688370
i was referring to dugin's eurasianism

>>14688329
>specifically said "name calling"
this is the typical type of idiot who calls people retards here. I doubt anyone is surprised

>>14688413
ywnbaw retard

>>14688223
Niggers in both US and Africa have similar shitty school performance, they are barely literate.

> All this cope and seethe over barely literate, mud eating animal niggers
They are not human, deal with it.

>>14688299
Im on the right, and I will agree. I think the leftists are at original fault. But the right will surely scream IF we actually got something proving the differences:

(1)- dont exist
or
(2)- are socioeconomic

This makes it annoying to research. I just want to know the truth, though I believe differences exist, I must acknowledge that I could be wrong.

I think, also, if we did research under funding from nationalist countries this would be possible. Such as china or some asian countries.Im going to try to do that, maybe. While Im in uni, though Im a math major. Or after uni. I am very curious.

>>14688231
>Those "plenty of places" tended to be very isolated and had subjects in the low hundreds, at best.
Good work captain obvious, because these are the exact reasons I mentioned them
The point is if there are still plenty of uncontacted tribes running around South America despite it being colonised for 500 years there should be plenty of uncontacted tribes in Africa as they were only colonised for 140 years meaning there are will infact be places in Africa untouched by European colonisation

i just want to say i live in a country full of muslims and they're all retarded stereotypes, low iq (rare to see them finish school), always doing crime, they don't follow social rules and always do what they want, there are no exceptions.
I don't think they're socioeceonomic stressed because they're treated even better than natural citizens of the country (they get a lot of economical benefits).

I have yet to see a smart muslim. Now okay maybe it's just because of their shitty cultures that completely deranges their brain. But well i'm starting to think it's actualyl a genetic factor because no way in hell they're all the damn same ignorant NPCs

>>14687519
Here anon, a relevant webm for you.
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1656769802675.webm

>>14687818
Nah, leftwingers are the side that is pro-democracy. Rightwingers are the side that is anti-democracy. This is not a debate, just a part of what the two sides stand for

Your little version of Brazilian politics is just part and parcel of rightwingers constantly envisioning shady conspiracies against them from "da leftists!" in which they've been wronged and are getting screwed over. Except none of it is ever real. And the problem is always just with you. And 99% of the time you all know it's not real too, but you just use these rhetoric as propaganda to try to justify violence against your political enemies

>>14689078
Not that anon, but you sound severely mentally ill.

>>14689078
see>>14688972

>>14689124
Nah I'm not clicking that. I have literally no fucking clue what it is at all
>>14689106
Nah rightwingers are against democracy. That's like...literally a part of their movement and platform. And leftwingers are pro-democracy

>>14689149
Just take your meds?

>>14689078
imagine being this delusional, you need to be in a padded room

>>14689152
>>14689106
most leftards legit suffer from a mental illness, 95% of the crazy shit they say is projection

>>14689152
>>14689160
Nah it's literally like part of what the difference between "right" and "left" mean. The right doesn't believe in democracy. That's why we have an electoral college in the USA and tons of other voter suppression laws from the rightwing

>>14688043
>the Heritage Foundation
Lol
Lmao

>>14689169
>the patriots dont believe in democracy us communists do!

>>14689078
the "left"vs"right" are both false doctrines
your idea of democracy is shambolic and corrupted by moneyed interests seeking monopoly.

The left pushes equality but ignores genetic variation to claim that any difference in outcome is the product of discrimination not capability all while fortifying centralised money powers

>>14689181
The right doesn't believe in democracy and the left does. Getting into the fundamentals of what it means to be "right" vs "left" here

If the right had their way, at minimum, no one would be able to vote but straight, white, landowning males. Meanwhile, you only have democracy in the 1st place because of the left

>>14689176
looking for an argument here.

>>14689190
>the "left"vs"right" are both false doctrines
This is just something idiotic rightwingers say on the internet. Everyone who says this is a far right nazi. Obviously it's a retarded. And obviously you went on to shit on democracy and bitch about "the left" and "equality" and totally incomprehensible, gibberish, meaningless phrases like "centralised money powers" which literally are meaningless. Jesus just fuck off tard

>>14689191
>it's another episode of some looney troon thinks fash larpers on /pol/ are the "right"
touch grass HRT addled mental reject

>>14689198
twitter and 4chan arent the real world you chimp brained troon

>>14689202
Uh huh yup people on /pol/ are the right. Yup. Please shut the fuck up and stop talking, you insuffering motherfucking moron

>>14689191
pathetic strawman that isn’t true, you abuse such statements to incriminate your political opposition, which is obviously the most ‘democratic’ thing you could do

>>14689206
Yes they are. Yes they literally are. Literally they are part of the real world. Yes. Like it's not a debate. It's just something that's objectively, factually true

>>14689207
>literal drooler calling people a moron
TOP FUCKING KEK. you are legitimately mentally ill and unstable

>>14689209
No strawman. Right is against democracy, left is for democracy
Right = power for the wealthy
Left = power for everyone
It's the basics and fundamentals of what the human political divide is

PS Jan 6th and the whole post-Trump "election was rigged so let's ignore it" rhetoric is a great example of how the right is entirely against democracy

>>14689219
never was a more appropriate circumstance to post this for a more fitting recipient

>>14689214
go back to bunkerchan tranny and stop shitting up this board with your mental illness

>>14687936
>The reason the funding is not the same is because it is based on the property taxes of the people in the district of that school you mouth breathing ape. It isnt some nefarious conspiracy
Hmm I wonder who made it so that poor people (minorities) get the short end of the stick of funding
>Throwing money at people isnt going to make them smarter.
Sure, however providing equal access to quality education means everyone gets a better shot. It something to help with the centuries of mistreatment

>>14689191
You are aware that fashism isn't a right wing ideology right?it shares ideological roots much much closer to communism

>>14689198
>far right nazi
nazis aren't a right wing ideology

>>14689264
Who helps the Chinese for their centuroes of mistreatment by the Brits duringt he opimum wars? Or the Indians during their colonial period? Who helps the Europeans the Turks enslaved during the barbory slave trade? Or the Greeks for what the Persians did to them?

You have a narrative and are too retarded to see past it, which the people who brainshwed you with it knew they would do. They find stupid, historically illiterate people like you and craft a narrative for you to be able to point fingers at someone else for your own failings. It is their schtick and you lack the intelligence and knowledge to escape it once they rope you in. Nothing you have said makes any sense to people who arent retarded. You are fucking delusional and have serious issues

>/sci/
>/science and maths

>>14689275
of course they dont. Literally, the only thing they know about history and politics they learned from other mentally ill trannies on bunckerchan and twatter. They are so delusional you can never get through to them, they are in la la land. Lights are on but no one is home

>>14689280
>>14689275
Yup, nazis are the far right. You'd know that if you had even a BASIC education like most people do. They were not socialists. They had nothing to do with communism or socialism. They had all of the same economic policies as the GOP

>>14689275
mentally ill people also dont understand causality. They will always put the cart before the horse. They are cry bullies, they will attack you then claim they are the victim when you respond appropriately to their threat.

They are mentally ill you see, the schizo who attacks you because the voice in their head told them you are trying to impregnate them with a reptilian baby from draco of course feels justified in attacking you for it. In their mentally ill mind you are the aggressor even though you did nothing to them. Then when you bust their ass for attacking you with a baseball bat while you were napping on the couch, they will say "SEE, SEE I TOLD YOU THEY WERE VIOLENT"

BPD do this shit all the time. See: Amber Heard v Johnny Depp trial.

You are dealing with some deranged and dangerous people here

>>14689306
No we know about history from school. From getting an education. And from historians. Not from your fake bullshit on /pol/ that posits "nazis were socialists!" for some random reasons that are completely made up. Meanwhile, every one of them ardently rails against socialism and the left and ardently defends capitalism

>>14689339
>>14689306
>No we know about history from school. From getting an education. And from historians. Not from your fake bullshit on /pol/ that posits "nazis were socialists!" for some random reasons that are completely made up. Meanwhile, every one of them ardently rails against socialism and the left and ardently defends capitalism
PS same idiocy with "the holocaust didn't happen". You fucking retards literally think the holocaust didn't happen and that nazis were socialists. And IRL you know you're totally full of shit, you're just utterly dishonest pieces of shit

>>14689339
yah you can stfu now schizo, no one cars about your retarded ramblings. You bunckerchan trannies are the /x/ of the political world. If they do end up attacking you it will be because you more than earned it nut job

>>14689339
>>14689347
quiet dear, adults are talking right now

>>14689078
>Your little version of Brazilian politics is just part and parcel of rightwingers constantly envisioning shady conspiracies against them from "da leftists!"
https://brazilian.report/power/2022/06/23/supreme-court-justices-senate-grilling/

Go learn Portuguese, then go study the relationship of the workers party (PT) with CV (commando vermelho). Research the Celso Daniel case. Petrolão, Mensalão, Foro de São Paulo, FARC, BNDS, etc.

>you just use these rhetoric as propaganda to try to justify violence against your political enemies
Projecting hard leftist retard, as a recent example a dumb leftist negro here invaded a peaceful Catholic church because it had too many white people, and beat the elderly there

>>14689329
It's tiring talking to you. you don't even understand what left or right means.

>>14689335
They will show up with no underwear on to "children's story hour" and touch your kids inappropriately and cry about how your a fascist when you beat them shit out of them for it.

>>14689335
>Amber Heard v Johnny Depp trial.
More theatre for the masses to entrain certain responses in the mass psyche

>>14689169
>it's literally like part of what the difference between "right" and "left" mean.
The left is not fixed, it adopts whatever is more convenient at the moment, from antidemocracy in Stalin and China, to supporting "democracy" in right wing dictatorships (but of course when they come to power they exercise "true democracy" and "true free speech", which is not allowing criticism, divergence or saying anything that isn't fact checked by the official party)

>>14689393
*no underwear on and skirt
https://headlineusa.com/trans-flash-kids-drag-queen-hour/

>>14689329
>They were not socialists. They had nothing to do with communism or socialism.
Nigger Mussolini was literally a communist, he was admired by Lenin too

>>14689410
you cant reason with a delusional nut job. You cant move someone from a position with reason that came to that position without reason

>>14687652
I wish I could be as hopeful as you are, but no. This is only just beginning. A decade ago people would be speak frankly about these things. Now they don't. We can see where the trend is going. It's going to get worse... way worse, before it starts getting better.

>>14689422
Hey bodhi did you ever look into the background of scot lively's pink swastika?

>>14689078
worth reading these articles
https://spandrell.com/2018/01/21/leninism-and-bioleninism/

>>14687627
Unless its an explanation for Jewish peoples success

>>14689191
you have democracy because of the straight, white, greek men who created it mouth breather

>>14689432
no

>>14689396
it is still a hopeful red pill. In the past men have been completely railroaded by the police and courts with false accusation from mentally ill women. The more people who understand these disorders in our society the better.

People need to understand they are dealing with broken minds. You cannot reason with broken minds.

https://esotericawakening.com/clown-world

>>14689484
I know, but after I started looking into the whole transvestigation thing I find it increasingly difficult to take these things seriously.

>>14689497
>transvestigation
da fuk, you on about mate. I dont follow

>>14689503
"Elite gender inversion", it's the root of all the tranny stuff getting pushed.

>>14687627
>Nobody cares about petty tribal differences, except that /pol/ tribe, whom I really hate
>I look down on /pol/ for looking down on people due to IQ differences
>/pol/ posters are idiots (low IQ)
It's hard to be hypocritical twice in such a brief sentence but you found a way.

>>14687627
>Even if, by some chance, it's not true that the IQs are generally equal, genetically, no one cares.

This self-contradictory statement is the hallmark of a psychopath. If nobody cares, you wouldn't have made an effort post about it, nor received so many replies.

>>14689347

>>14689529
Pol is mentality
Ethically pol is surprisingly diverse

>>14687519
Wikipedia proved that a system where everyone can collaborate will fail since some people will start to decide what collaboration is allowed. Yet people think communismwill work. Kek

>>14688370
dugin is an antiscience quack who would love the destruction of white people

>>14689264
sorry to ruin your hate gasm narrative but it was niggers who enslaved niggers kiddo. There werent white people running around Africa hunting for slaves. The Jews and Arabs showed on the coast with their slave ships and bought them from the niggers who enslaved them. Being brought to America was winning the lottery for their genetic line. If it wasnt for "colonialism" the Africans would still be running around with bones in their nose living in dirt huts with out a written language or the wheel with a 75% infant mortality rate. None of bullshit stands up to scrutiny against someone with a triple digit IQ. It only works on illiterate mouth breathers like you because you want to believe it. Leftist mouth breathers always want to be able to blame someone else for their shortcomings.

>>14689601
the rape of berlin?

>>14687627
>2) Even if, by some chance, it's not true that the IQs are generally equal, genetically, no one cares. Literally no one cares anyway. No one wants to live in a world of race war, which is what idiots like those on /pol/ will use even a slight variance in genetic intelligence to attempt to justify
This is the most cucked mindset you can possibly have. You can never recover once you've gone this far. I am sorry man its too late for you. You are a cuck now.

IQ is what determines who controls society, who shapes the world. You saying IQ doesn't matter is nearly literally the same and you saying you don't care who fucks your wife. You are a cuck by definition. I'm so sorry man.

>>14689609
>Wikipedia proved that a system where everyone can collaborate will fail
except it isn't a such a system, it has moderators who decide and enforce thigns

Remember to subtract 15 points from your iq to obtain your ashkenazi adjusted iq

>>14690092
and just to be clear, the system is rigged and corrupt, dont get me wrong. But people like you >>14689264 are too stupid to understand how and who is really behind it. The people really behind just use you like an attack dog against their enemies. You are the storm troopers for the oppressors while convincing yourself you are the fighting the power," fucking lolz. All you are doing is fighting for middle management jobs. The actual power structure doesnt give two shits what retards like you do, they know you are no real threat which is why they train you to attack the people who actually are a threat to them .... the armed, straight, white men

>>14687627
>2) Even if, by some chance, it's not true that the IQs are generally equal, genetically, no one cares. Literally no one cares anyway.
I'm biting the bait, fuck it.
If IQ's aren't equal between races, then it would mean that societal group inequalities could be explained by these inherent differences between the groups. Meaning that these BLM movements or affirmative action are completely invalid and lead to a misallocation of federal resources + deliberate missed opportunities for other groups, like Whites (or asians).
So yes, people would care if IQ differences between groups are real and inherent because it's real and it materializes itself in societal differences naturally and not a result of some bullshit "systemic oppression"

>>14687644
>I'm sorry, the science GENUINELY doesn't back you up
Scientists don't but the science does. There are only two tenable arguments against racial IQ differences having a partially biological basis: A. Studies that suggest that the IQ gap disappears when accounting for socio-economic factors and B. that IQ may or even likely does not measure other kinds of intelligence.
A. These studies always include a massive issue that skews the results to a degree that the study is not usable. For example, the study that measured the IQs of children of US soldiers stationed overseas. The IQ gap was far smaller than the general American public, however, the military does not allow individuals with IQs below 85 to join the military (http://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/2004socialconsequences.pdf).). This cuts out the bottom 50% of the black population. That is such a huge sampling problem that it completely invalidates the results of the study for the purposes of determining if IQ is determined by genetics. This is only one example, but it is a consistent problem. If you have an example of a study suggesting that race is socioeconomic without a fatal flaw like this, provide it.
B. I will grant that IQ only tests for specific kinds of intelligence. But IQ tests have a high predictability of success in Western society. They clearly have some validity in determining if a group is likely to succeed in the West. Also, if black people typically have a different style of intelligence than white people in both Africa and the West, that would seem to suggest that intelligence is racially determined.
Every other argument to deny the role of race in IQ or the biological reality of race relies on (usually intentionally) misleading evidence like extremely biased sampling, pseudoscientific arguments like the Lewontin fallacy, namecalling, or attempts at censorship. Interestingly, everything you have posted in this thread falls into one of those categorie

>>14691218
explain the Lewontin Fallacy like i’m your grandma. is that the idea that genetic mutations are required for intelligence genes to change and there hasn’t been enough time since out-of-africa for that to have occurred?

>>14687519
>plebbitor is upset that his precious libshit controlled website has become a haven for censorship
??????

>>14687624
yeah, Jewgle will be sure to index that right at the top for you

>>14691548
Lewontin’s Fallacy is an argument made by Lewontin that race doesn’t exist (or is not meaningful, or cannot be meaningful, et cetera) on the basis that there is more genetic variation within one given racial category than there is between the averages of two different racial categories.

It is a weak argument and can be attacked in many ways, but the most fundamental failing is in the premise that racial groups would have to be defined by some single gene. When you start to consider even two genes in correlation, racial clusters form immediately and are clear to see.

>>14687519
>Shuichi Tezuka

>>14691548
Stephen Pinker trashed it in his book The Blank Slate while political correctness was still taking root. these days it's been memory holed of course, but worth tracking down

>>14691693
>Stephen Pinker
Isn't he the kike who stirred up controversy by claiming Ashkenazi Jews were smarter owing to genetic reasons?
These are the kinds of people who criticize The Bell Curve and any other publication that seems to pander to white supremacy but then proceed to espouse Jewish supremacy.

>>14689468
So the Spartans and Athenians weren't left wing, black trannies like my Netflix adaption told me?

>>14689191
I thought people like you call the founding fathers of the US right wing nazi racists? Why can't leftypol trannys ever maintain a consistent narrative? You are all idiots who never know what you are talking about and just make up shit as you go to suit your narrative like little kids

>>14691844
There is some nuance.
Spartans were more TERF-like while the Athenians were groomers and trannies.

>>14689191
Neither the far-right nor the far-left believe in democracy. Stalin was no less of a dictator than Hitler.
Stop cherry-picking.

>>14691888
really? i thought all ancient greek city-states had (by modern standards) rampant pedophilia (young boys molested by men).

i thought that was throughout all ancient greek culture but correct me if i’m wrong

>>14691899
I'm not an expert on the topic, so I don't know for sure.
I know that Spartan women had more rights than other Greek women (which is also reflected in the movie 300 where the Spartan queen talks to men as an equal) and could inherit property, own land, and do business.
Athenians on the other hand were well known pedophiles. Athenians and Spartans would accuse each other of being faggot pedophiles, but I think the consensus is that pederasty was more widespread in Athens than in other parts of Greece.
The Boeotians were also well known faggots who had a whole military unit made up boy-lovers.

>>14691916
*made up of boy-lovers