/sci/ - Science & Math

>>14685184
FTS Archive
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KCJBL632oieD1r6JOh_5Eg9NTcf_-hH8?usp=sharing

>>14685191
don't care

>>14685197
I do

>>14685191
Imagine spending your days waiting for a new /sfg/ thread to appear just so you can advertise your collection of mongolian newspaper articles

>>14685191
Your post stamps are uninteresting, get back to me when you start collecting post stamps that are SpaceX related.

>>14685206
it's op, dummy

>>14685206
Anon, he made the thread...

>>14685214
>Your post stamps are uninteresting
I think they're interesting

>>14685214
Few seem to exist, most are from africa and all are quite hard to find.
Might get some.

>>14685197
>>14685206
>>14685214
Riled over stamps, like chumps.

>>14685184
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwcz0nSXOfY

Live in 3 hours, Starlink launch

>>14685253
Do you think Elon is into anal

>>14685260
No, non-reproductive sex is a waste of time and all sodomy is wrong.

>>14685255
I just don't like post stamps of old roggets as much as nu-roggets themselves, simple as

>>14685263
Okay homo

>>14685287
the secret behind every great man

>>14685260
I know Krystal is

>>14685321
proof?

>>14685313
how the fuck do you get shoulders that wide? do the bones stretch or something

>>14685326
Having big muscles attached to a naturally wide frame. Your skeleton mostly stops growing when you enter your 20s.

>>14685260
Reminds me of that one nig tweet about how Elon totally just shoves his asshole in Grimes's face and has her eat his ass.

>>14685282
If you drove against the rotation would you feel any gravity at all?

>>14685352
not if you drove the same speed as the rotation velocity

>>14685322
https://e621.net/posts?tags=krystal+anal+order%3Afavcount

i hope i can go into space at some point before i die.

Reminder
>Booster 7 dead
>OLM damaged
>Orbital test NET October

>>14685220
While I respect they fact they were breaking new ground I hate the Atlas, now the Delta is an early rocket worthy of respect.

do orlan suits not have cameras?

>>14685436
Are they even outside yet?

>>14685441
yes

samantha kprkarkkrrasrktaki

>>14685450
>he still hasn't learnt cyrillic
grim

>>14685451
I know moonrunes to some extent. Fuck vodkarunes though.

>>14685451
>learning orcish
subhuman

I bought tesla T-shirts and SpaceX T-shirts, tesla shirt is neat (spacex one is still in america, waiting to be flown over)
Yes it's expensive for a t-shirt no I don't care

>>14685483
Thank you for updating your blog.

>>14685484
Fuck you too faggot

>>14685483
>tesla T-shirts
gay
>SpaceX T-shirts
cool

>>14685487
homophobia has no place on /sfg/

WOOOOO ANOTHER DAY OF SPIN PRIME TESTING YESSSSSSSS

>I bought tesla T-shirts and SpaceX T-shirts, tesla shirt is neat (spacex one is still in america, waiting to be flown over)
>Yes it's expensive for a t-shirt no I don't care

>orcish

wait I think they're finally finishing the tiling around the flaps and shit. it looks almost completely covered except for a few spots now

>>14685467
fr fr no cap

why do they say nauka like that? it's na oo ka

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSr3eq4rFXg

4th tower section lifted

>>14685467
I'd rather have Christoforetti seduce me in cute Soyuz Russian than Italian.

>>14685531
Aren't they terribly behind on building Boosters and Ships? I haven't seen a single ring section yet.
Maybe they're really planning on shipping over a few of them for the first launches.

>>14685552
no real point in rushing to build rockets when the designs are likely to change before the tower is done

>inb4 nauka reactivates thrusters out of nowhere
Hope they're tethered good up there

>SAA on track

ohfuq

ngl I love NASA's manual nanosat deploy mechanism
>just chuck that shit into retrogade orbit

>>14685620
>retrogade orbit

>>14685630
From the ISS's point of view

>>14685620

>>14685630
It's the other version of Gatorade.

>>>/wsg/4642160

mission control is so scared that they forget to turn on the sats lmao

what is that stupid flag again?

>>14685184
Reminder that Starships raison d'etre is fulfilling Pentagon contracts to create "Proliferated LEO" constellations for military purposes.

>14685681
You have to go back

>>14685681
Cool

>>14685681
duh, you thought it was about muh sóyence?

>>14685681
Its reason d'etre is starlink.

>>14685681
Based

>we are a launch complex, but we our powered by muscle strength

>>14685682
Starship will be orbital before the end of this year, but crew compartments for Starship are years beyond the horizon. Starship's priority has always been launching satellites.

>>14685688
The real money is in Pentagon contracts. They're planning on selling a lot of starlink bandwidth to the US of course (the US military has always been one of the largest customers for commercial satellite comms.) But they have much more than that planned. You've got a US military website right there telling you this. They want massive constellations of military satellites for the NDSA. The ONLY space launch company capable of fulfilling these sort of insanely lucrative contracts is SpaceX. ULA can't even dream of doing it.

>>14685662
>>14685654
kek, nice

>>14685681
10,000 spacex stands weep in a tragic cacophony. their dream was a lie

>>14685709
>Starship will be orbital before the end of this year, but crew compartments for Starship are years beyond the horizon. Starship's priority has always been launching satellites.
all true. starlink satellites and other satellites, including for defence purposes.
it's raison d'etre is decidedly deploying starlink for mars financing.

>>14685709
I don't think we'll be seeing something comparable to 40,000 satellites that are 7x2 meter rectangles in the Pentagon's hands. A few thousand Brilliant Pebbles successors are definitely possible, and they'll probably be pretty lucrative contracts, but the telecoms industry is hilariously lucrative, far above and beyond what the government is paying to talk to people.

>>14685654
Seriously, they just throw them? Why is there nanosat launcher in ISS?

>>14685681
glow niggers never stop trying to enslave humanity

>>14685723
Somebody built one and really wanted it to be included so they brought it along to make them happy. It's not actually required for anything, much like the ISS cookie bakery and garden.

>/pol/tards overfitting like the bots they are
Many such cases.
It's written on this website, thus it must be the most important central thing for this company that is not mentioned.

HE NEARLY HIT THE SOLAR PANEL LOL

>>14685737
almost hit samantha's foot too

>>14685739
>camera pulls out
>trajectory was clearly towards the structure
hmmmmmmmmmmm

>>14685737
>>14685744
it did hit the solar panel twice. I think they mistranslated solar cell as battery.

>>14685751
Amazing

>>14685733
t. believer of the grand muskian fantasy

>>14685726
The whole point of NDSA is to be resilient in a fight with 'a peer adversary' aka the communist chinese. Why do I say that?

>The National Defense Space Architecture (NDSA)is built to continue functioning in the event that individual nodes become unavailable.
Read: you can't shut down NDSA by killing a handful of satellites. Who could or would do that in the first place? Not dirt farmers. Dirt farmers in Buttfuckistan cannot touch extant US military satellites. And even in a proxy war with the likes of Russia, US military satellites don't get touched. It's the chinese. The only credible and imminent threat to American military assets in space is the chinese.

>The satellites that comprise the NDSA are also smaller, cheaper, and quicker to deliver and replace than some of our exquisite defense space assets deployed in limited quantities.
>quicker to deliver and replace
>quicker to [...] replace
Meaning they anticipate that many of the satellites will get destroyed [or expended, in the case of interceptors], and they are planning on replacing those satellites faster than they're lost. They want something that can replace a huge number satellites with a very rapid launch cadence. This is what Starship was built for. Fully and rapidly reusable, able to lift and deploy hundreds of satellites several times a week. Starship is being built for war with the PRC.

hate TDRS

https://www.govtech.com/products/texas-county-approves-motion-in-favor-of-spacex-project

How accurate is this? These red roads have now been ceded to SpaceX so random people can't get inside SpaceX work facilities.

>>14685766
>making an only tangentially related faggotpost instead of defeding the argument you just purported to be making
You know where you belong >>> >>14685682

>>14685787
The based county just kicked all spacex fans in the nuts. no more driving up to the rocket garden for you, missed your chance ;)

>>14685790
This is good for SpaceX. Not everybody who might go snooping around is a fan.

>>14685775
>Starship is being built for war with the PRC.
These paranoid freaks will use every tool they can get their hands on to stomp out threats to their power. The citizenry are their number one target. China is their problem. The glow niggers are a problem for every other man, woman and child on earth.

>>14685787
>>14685790
>SpaceX moves the rocket garden to the very front
Would be based PR move

>>14685788
I dont even know what you're mad about, i just figured you were mad about something and making fun of musk delusionalists here tends to be the correct response. seems i was 100% on point. why do you keep defending him?

that's a quite annoying voice

>>14685790
Its not SpaceX "fans" that are the issue, its the weird anti-SpaceX people that want to disrupt the workflow and argue SpaceX is threatning to kick them out of the workplace that which is "public"

>>14685793
>the US military needs a constellation robust enough to tank anti-satellite weapon attacks to oppress it's own citizenry who don't have anti-satellite weapons because..... they just do ok
Doesn't make sense.

>>14685796
Defending him? Him? Why do you think I'm talking about Musk?
It's about Starship. If you want to talk about people you need to go back.

>>14685799
That's like 2 people vs hundreds. Just shoot the schizos on sight, the county will understand

>>14685806
Schizos are the ones making the issues and stopping SpaceX.

>>14685806
Shoot two schizos and that will draw the attention of even more schizos. Threat of death won't stop crazies, many of whom want to die as a martyr for their imagined delusional cause anyway.

>>14685790
>;)

>>14685805
i think you're arguing with the wrong person, friend. you should do brain excercises like wordle to ward off dementia.

>>14685812
>many of whom want to die as a martyr for their imagined delusional cause anyway.
Their terms are acceptable

>>14685809
>>14685812
Fair enough. Should we disappear them instead?

>>14685819
Unironically yes. Getting rid of them quietly would work much better. The more of a scene you make, the more crazies it will draw in.

>>14685809
Now this delusion. What is making issues and stopping them is venting kilograms of methane under the launch table and then wondering why it exploded.

>>14685824
Let's see your rocket.

>>14685787

>>14685824
the anime Schizos have infiltrated Space-x

>>14685681
Gotta pay the bills somehow. This kind of stuff is the only reason ULA is still relevant.

>>14685819
>Several public speakers urged the commission beforehand to vote against the resolution supporting SpaceX and the street abandonment, including one who characterized the actions as "absolutely abhorrent" and "unfair and inequitable."
If only

>>14685726
I think the word youre looking for is "patriots"

>>14685826
Anon this is a blue board

>>14685832
ULA can't provide what they want
they need massive lift capacity and quickly, since the inevitable war with the chinese will see sats blown at an ungodly rate
Starship has given SpaceX the full backing of the DoD, they can be inconvenienced by political fuck fuck games, but can no longer be killed by them

>>14685835
Equity is such an insidious fad

>>14685835
>including one who characterized the actions as "absolutely abhorrent" and "unfair and inequitable."
I love it when schizos try their twitter-inspired histrionics IRL and it falls completely flat.

Thoughts?

>>14685835
>"absolutely abhorrent" and "unfair and inequitable."
OUR QUEEN

>>14685844
>ULA can't provide what they want
>they need massive lift capacity and quickly, since the inevitable war with the chinese will see sats blown at an ungodly rate
Exactly right.
>Starship has given SpaceX the full backing of the DoD, they can be inconvenienced by political fuck fuck games, but can no longer be killed by them
This presumes that America won't be stabbed in the back by corrupt or compromised leadership that sides with the chinese. I have high hopes that America will emerge victorious, but time will be the true test.

>>14685851
Lmao

>>14685851
>he's looking at African population projections
>and trying to find ways to rationalize it as a good thing
The seed has been planted already. It may not take root, but it has been planted nevertheless.

>>14685851
SUB SAHARAN STARSHIP CREW

>>14685851
I thought libtards were Mathusians who hated humanity and fret about overpopulation and unironically imply we need a genocide, yet in the same breath are too cowardly to start with themselves

>>14685838
hello glowfaggot.
yes please monitor every aspect of my life.
the three letter agencies are so cool and woke and wholesome and are all our friends.

>>14685872
chaos CONTROL

>>14685872
>>14685876
LOOK DARPA JUST HIRED PERRI ADAMS
WWOWOOOWWW A GIRL
I BEG YOU TO PATCH NOT A SINGLE ZERO DAY YOU FIND
THIS IS SOOOO COOOOOOLLL

>>14685835
I remember when when equity meant equality of opportunity, as in we both start you off with the same resources and darwinism sorts the rest out.

>>14685838

I think Samantha is a pretty lady.

>>14685871
No, they just hate wyt pipo

>>14685884
she's writing up contracts for Mike McCulloch as we speak

>>14685892
>themselves
https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead/status/1549610620210876419

>>14685654
>>14685698
NASA needs to start recruiting baseball pitchers. These astronauts they have now can't throw for shit.

>>14685846
It's just another word for communism. Equality of outcomes is impossible, it will never be achieved. When you give people more freedom to live as they prefer, they choose unequal outcomes for themselves. Equality of outcomes, the pursuit of something that will never be achieved, can only be a justification for "permanent revolution".

kek

>>14685904
Oh fug

>>14685851
Let's take a realistic approach to those projections while trying to minimize racism. If future Africans are to make a society capable of mass producing people educated enough to crew starships (not the Starship, I'm speaking generally), it would need to be prosperous and economically stable. Looking at modern central Africa, both of those are nowhere in sight, and global warming will likely make those areas much harder to live in, causing even more territorial wars. Also, once a nation becomes good to live in, birthrates tend to decline because people's mentality goes from "I want to make as many children as possible so that the few who survive to adulthood can support me when I'm old" to "I want to secure my place in society by finding a good job and developing my career so that I can live happily when I'm old, and I guess having a kid or two wouldn't hurt". As things currently stand, I don't see Africa being much more than a cheap labor and refugee generator.
Feel free to comment on any of this, which I just pulled out of my ass while eating lunch. This isn't my field of study, I'm just spitballing.

>>14685900
shoe is the only non cringe twitter user

>>14685904
>>14685921
It's Vandenberg. Looks like that all the time.
Will make for nice shots coming through the fog though.

>>14685256
10 minutes till live

>>14685926
Pretty much

>>14685930
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoInm6yOGWw

Mission Control audio

>>14685904

>>14685904

Why Vandy so foggy

>>14685184
At this point I’m just going to wait for spacex to finalize the tankage size and engine number and wait for people smarter than me to shill out youtube videos explaining why it’s the perfect combo for gravity losses and tonnage to space. Musk is being way too schizo about the final design but I guess that comes with iterative testing

can crusher testing again. maybe they'll break it today. that would be cool and probably good knowledge

>Spacewalk
>Starlink
>Starship testing
>all right now
aaaaaaaa

>>14685949
>Starship testing
No overpressure notice. Nothing to see.

>>14685943
ALL THOSE CARS ARE TOTALED
JAIL NOW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwcz0nSXOfY

Opening music starting

ESA's ExoMars cancellation press release punts next steps to a November announcement

I'm guessing they're asking around for extremely-short-notice lander proposals and getting an expended Falcon 9 quote

great views
>>14685979
source?

>>14685979
HEAVYYY

>>14685981
https://www.esa.int/Newsroom/Press_Releases/Cancelled_The_way_forward_to_Mars

>>14685979
Just yeet it on a prototype Starship, what do they have to lose?

>>14685983
>Cancelled_The_way_forward_to_Mars

>>14685979
Falcon heavy falcon heavy falcon heavy

>ABORT

HOLD

Launch ABORT

its Over spacex is finished

>>14685979
I always thought it was risky relying on the Russians to deliver ExoMars given their track record of Mars missions, but hastily signing on to any other lander supplier doesn't bode well either. Between finding a quick but risky solution or taking the time to build their own lander making the mission even more delayed I don't envy their position. Ideally they could just go to JPL but I imagine ESA doesn't have $1 Billion plus tip lying around

>line going across the screen
are they viewing from on top of a wind turbine?

Recycle

>whiskey 21 1-3 24 hour recycle
hmmm

SKERRRUB.

SpaceX is building another tower at the cape apparently. No one knows if it’s for LC-39A (two towers there?) or for LC-49, which doesn’t have its environmental review yet

back to spacewalk

no refunds

>>14686011
SLC-40 Crew access tower

IMAGINE!

NASA having 4 (three) launchpads for crew

>2022
>Still scrubbing
Lmao Spacex is a joke of a company

>>14686011
Nigga found the base of the third tower.
>>14686016
He meant the tower for Starship.

>>14686002
I doubt you could go through JPL (who would probably pick ULA) because every existing DIVH and Atlas is booked. You’d be at the behest of Vulcan ever flying—and between the Peregrine lander and Dreamchaser it will be at LEAST 2025 until you can hopefully even squeeze yourself in. And that’s not taking into account all the kuiper launches or higher priority NASA missions that would want to go first

>>14686023
They're gonna use the same structure/setup is what I'm implying baka

>>14686016
Based on the footings they've brought in, it's a third Starship tower.

it’s over

>>14686028
>>14686023
idiots

>>14686031
faggot

>>14686031
stay mad

>>14686032
>>14686033
retards!

>>14686031
>>14686028
>>14686023
Nigga I meant that SpaceX is building a second starship tower at the Cape. If LC-39A has two towers, that would be insane

>>14686038
And I'm saying its a crew access tower for SLC-40!
(hoping)

>>14686038
LC-49 isn't even past environmental review yet, let alone land clearing or foundation production for the tower. The only place it could go is either LC-39A or LC-40, the latter of which has had some recent permitting and groundwork done.

>>14686039
They are going to need one eventually yeah. I wonder how fast they can man rate LC-40?

>>14686031
>>14686037
eric roesch needs to go back to suck off another executive

>>14686041
This anon gets it

Why not just reuse the tower design, thats what I'd expect SpeX would do, would also be a pathfinder for adding crew tower arm for Starship towers

How about Starship tower for Vandenberg?

Starship tower for VAB

>they're static firing raptors at the same time in mcgregor now
hot

test

WHERE IS CLEAR ANONS
POST CLEAR!!!!!!!!

>>14686053
They static fire a dozen or half a dozen Raptors per day.

>>14686024
>I doubt you could go through JPL (who would probably pick ULA)
Could a contractor for a lander really have a say on what launch provider is chosen?

>Spacewalk
>Starlink
>Starship testing
>SRB testing
>all right now
aaaaaaaa

>>14685900
Sir this is a nitter only general

>>14686091
That sounds like a racist site for racists

>>14686023
WHERE'S THE OIL RIG LAUNCHER?

>>14686073
anon...its over

>>14686097
Nigger

>>14686100
It will be there when its necessary.

https://twitter.com/LCS_Big_Mike/status/1550133204425768960
It's over

>>14686141
this is how oldspace is born, in these exact discussions

>>14686039
Just get in the cherrypicker 5000 and then take the HLS crew elevator the rest of the way to the cabin

>>14686152
>>14686141
Don’t worry about it. The real delay is B7 being not flightworthy anymore

>>14686141
>officials: so what happened with the blast
>spacex: process issue, we got it fixed
>officials: okay, good

>officials: so what happened with the leak
>spacex: issues with structure, we got it fixed
>officials: okay, good

Repeat, ad infinitum. Its only an issue if spacex says "oh its a problem, we have no solution, we'll continue to do the same thing, fuck you"

>>14686169
The real delay is the OLM being damaged.

>>14686172
you need to sit down and review the second ghostbusters film to see what environmentalists are capable of

The deluge of bad news.

>>14685924
this plus Africa is being braindrained HARD and worse than India, unlike China which has domestic retention.

>>14686185
>falcon 9's being aborted left and right
>starship boosters eploding
>now basic transport damages the vehicles
its over spacex is getting lazy and or braindrained its over its oevr

>>14686091
use an extension/url rewrite rule to redirect to your favorite instance, idiot

>>14686177
I just hope SpaceX is careful. Losing Boca because of a pad exploding starship would be awful and Kennedy would NOT want an orbital launch anytime soon in this scenario

>>14686185
Noooooooo

>>14686141
Imagine being a Brownsville teen interested in spaceflight and the whole government conspires to rob you of the coolest thing you'll ever see which was going to happen right in your backyard. And not even shut it down but simply moved to Florida for no good reason, seemingly motivated by spite alone.

>>14686097
and you'd be right

>>14685924
>Let's [try] to minimize racism
No
>refuses to produce melanin
>refuses to leave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCyEjZErgcY

"Upgraded" SLS booster test firing imminent.

>>14686269
https://youtu.be/GCyEjZErgcY
https://youtu.be/Hl5m7mQIyio

>>14685851
This is just missing Starship overlaid with slave ship schematics.

tanktwatchers are insane

>>14686269
>>14686270
>delayed already

is anyone else streaming, is NG streaming?

>>14686141
lmao they think Texas is going to shut down one of the most exciting things happening in their state because a few environmentalists make some noise? Just look at the Permian Basin.

>>14686269
$150 million dollar per SRB booster

>>14686281
You'd chase those super chat dollars too if you could.

>>14686298
Man I hope so I feel we gave environmental groups too much power they need to be knocked down a peg

Just fucking detonate the whole coastline with Starship launch attempts. Nothing else matters.

>>14686308
This but unironically, fuck your muddy salt flats I hope a freshwater hurricane fucks it over

>>14686312
NOOOOO, THINK OF THE OCELOTS!

>>14686284
Of course it is, it's a cost plus program after all.

Also, NSF with the hard hitting questions.

>>14686312
Especially focus around the Houston area. Don't bother fitting any safety systems.

>>14686297
New Glen won't be ready for a while

Am I the only one who wishes for Firefly, NASA, BO, SpaceX, and all other launchers to succeed? Considering NASA is a jobs program/national defense interest with essentially "bottomless" money, I couldn't possibly want SLS to blow up.

Am I wrong for this? Post opinions, and yes I know sfg leans SpaceX or bust.

>>14686326
Yes you aren't

>>14686326
>NASA
>bottomless money
I wish that was true

>>14685979
>>14685983
They cancelled press conference about Exomars
Exomars is not getting cancelled (yet)

>>14686333
As long as the cost plus programs stretch out as they're wont to, the money is in effect "bottomless".

>>14686141
This is a nothingburger, I work with the TCEQ literally every day as part of my environmental engineering job. The only thing they do is keep spills and other concerns on record. It has only about 2,500 employees and they only deal with air, water, waste, and enforcing enviro laws that already exist. Big Mike is a faggot twitter user who has no idea what he’s talking about

>>14686346
>Big Mike is a faggot twitter user who has no idea what he’s talking about
I get that sense from him so I posted that link to hear /sfg/'s thoughts on him

>>14686350
Sorry I deleted it because I felt like I overreacted by calling him a slur, but my point stands: he has no idea what he’s talking about

>>14686354
faggot is not a slur, its a mild insult

I miss Big Jim.

>>14686185
It hit a bridge in Texas during transport lmaooo

>>14686396
that bridge had it coming

>>14686141
>LN2 leak
dude it's just cold air
come on, it hurt nobody

>>14686417
The fireball wasn't nitrogen. But there wasn't much left over to leak anywhere afterwards.

Anyone know what's "upgraded" for this particular stick?

>>14686396
fuck (((bridges)))

Wait, are they testing both Ship and B
7.1 at the same time?

>>14686408
>>14686439
da

toughts on L O O Ps?

>>14685921
When is this from

>>14686451
See the pic above yours for why its a bad idea

>>14686451
envirofags and nimbys make them impossible

>>14686435
Plenty. They swapped to electric TVC and more:
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2022/07/fsb-2-test/

None of this is getting anywhere near the SLS until Artemis IX so ... 2030 at the earliest at the one-launch-per-year schedule

>>14686451
insanely expensive and basically impossible to build and maintain. sci-fi

>>14686454
>>14686456
>>14686462
what about shorter mass drivers?

>>14686471
One jutting out from KSC into the sea would be mega based

>NSF ran out of batteries waiting for the test
kek

>>14686453
SN11

>>14685921
Oh fog

Uhhhhh

>>14686499
MR MUSK GET DOWN

>>14686471
Limits launch direction to the point of uselessness for anything short of a 5 million ton space station. Also, it would need to be unbelievably long and tall to get any significant improvement over a standalone rocket on a pad. Not to mention, G force and material strength limited

>>14686471
Only going to be viable on the moon or MAYBE Mars

More thrust -> Smaller gravity losses

>>14685206
Finnanon is more important to these threads than you'll ever be, chud

>>14686471
Mass driver launch assisted venturestars with external fuel tanks when?

It's up

>>14686499
OH N-

HAPPENING

>>14686448
20 whole metpobs wide???

>>14686525
>chud
You need to go back

EARTHER (derogatory)

It's on fire.... it's over.......

>>14686525
there's like 5 finns here

>>14686445
The FAA wasted a year of all our time to save face for SLS is why.

Another spin

>>14686451
>power goes out
>billions of dollars wasted

>>14685184
>>14682822
I prefer Highway Star.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCyGIJl1XUA

>>14686590

>>14686499
There was another test yesterday with damage?

>>14686597
imagine if like, the power went off in a sperm bank, or some other cryogenic storage place. that must happen all the time and people just lose tremendous amounts of money.

>>14686451
>>14686462
>>14686456
Could work on the Moon, if anybody ever saw fit to fund such a thing.

>>14686610
is this why we have to add leap years now? they speed up spinning of earth with rocket???

Holy fuck NSF is seething about being wrong about shit lol

>>14686634
kek

I have given up on HOP
I'm a man without HOP
Truly a place of no HOPe.

>>14686649
What were they wrong about?

>>14686649
what are they malding about now?

How can they test the test tank and the ship at the same time?! Somebody stop them!!

>malding

Little KSP alt history project about a Soviet Manned Mars Mission in the mid 80’s.
Read clockwise from the upper right. In this timeline, the N1 third stage is upgraded to Hydrolox. N1 Stage 3 is actually based on the Energia core, with three RD-0120s being ignited. This helps performance a lot, but the N1 actually has some pretty shit volume constraints because it gets skinnier unlike the Saturn V.
I already completed the Soviet Mars lander and the crew habitat. Now I just have to build the vehicle in orbit. Will keep you updated.

Wake up babe, new NASA CLPS mission just dropped

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-selects-draper-to-fly-research-to-far-side-of-moon

>>14685191
39 new stamps, 2 new countries: 24 for Liberia, 7 for Guinea, 3 for Mongolia, 3 for France, and 2 for Bulgaria.
All African stamps are about the US space program, Apollo 11, 14, 16, 17, and ASTP to be exact.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1JnTpiGNU9cnzpYZ_CiAtFVpT_kyexUy-?usp=sharing

>>14685979
If it was getting immediately cancelled they would just announce it now. They've pushed it back to the next ministerial meeting.

>>14686002
ESA would never pay for JPL, or any foreign organisation to do it. That's not how large scientific collaborations work, they are in kind (unless you're emirates buying a space program). The Russians were part of it because they were paying for a significant fraction. The main reason to bring on a new partner is money. The Russians weren't a supplier, they were a partner brought on because NASA withdrew.

>>14686759
Yeah the lander is also a science platform too innit

>>14686758
Astérix A-1 satellite.
The second French satellite may have an incorrect year, sources range from 1962-1966 which are all before D-1 actually launched in 1967.

>>14686765
And finally a Yuri Gagarin stamp from Mongolia.
Interesting bit is that the stamp makers didn't put a generic spacecraft to represent Vostok-1. Instead they put what looks to a Mercury capsule behind him.

anon why are you posting about stamps

>>14686792
printing/engraving autism is a very specific branch of the tism spectrum. And when it overlaps with space flight the result is so wonderful. Soviets in particular were VERY good at graphic design, and stamps in particular are typically works of art worth admiring because of the limited space so every millimeter counts. Lay off of stamp anon he is cool

>>14686810
i don't have that particular strain of auts so i can't really see the thing that you're seeing

>>14686814
Imagine a one square centimeter rogget

>>14686810
No

>>14686814
Ones that are kind of gay and boring include >>14686774 but ones that are absolutely gorgeous are ones like >>14686765. Everything had so much thought put into it. The typefaces and size of the lettering, the placement, the official watermarks. And then the artwork is typically hand carved (at least on older stamps) on plates.

>>14686748
Last digit number of my post shows how many CLPS missions succeed

>>14686834
whoa

Starship Giga-factory when

>>14686792
they are kino

>>14686865
Now

>>14686888
I SAID GIGA NIGGA

>>14686553

>>14686748
Did you hotstage like a boss

Was there a test yesterday and did anything go wrong?

>>14686759
We'll see. They have to make another hard choice with Euclid: https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/07/will-the-ukraine-war-force-esa-to-pass-on-arianespace-use-spacex/

>>14686905
Two spin prime tests. No.

>>14686903
Yep. Also heres the lander.
The current launch program is a single N1 for the Hab and MEM, and four or five N1V (V is the initial for H/Hydrogen in Russian) for the nuclear stages. Will make an album of the mission somewhere

>>14686926
It's not really a hard choice. Euclid is complete. It's just a matter of how long the delay is. Quite sure it wil fly in A6. If NASA offered to pay for the launch as a bonus to their small contribution then that might be a possibility, but I don't see ESA paying for it.

>>14686888
That's so small

Not gonna lie; I’ll be a bit disappointed if Starship flies after SLS. No logical reason but still.

>>14686320
5$ well spent

>>14686995
The Russian space program makes me sad

Reminder that gravity loss is a meme, particularly for later stages where it's more efficient to have a <1 TWR. Stop watching shitty YouTubers and play KSP RO, faggots

1. Launch with ignition of the S-IC. Note how the acceleration rapidly rises with increasing engine efficiency and reduced propellant load.
2. Cut-off of the centre engine of the S-IC.
3. Outboard engine cut-off of the S-IC at a peak of 4g.
4. S-II stage ignition. Note the reduced angle of the graph for although the mass of the first stage has been discarded, the thrust of the S-II stage is nearly one tenth of the final S-IC thrust.
5. Cut-off of the centre engine of the S-II.
6. Outboard engine cut-off of the S-II at a peak of approximately 1.8g.
7. S-IVB stage ignition. Note again the reduced angle of the graph caused by the thrust being cut to a fifth.
8. With the cut-off of the S-IVB's first burn, the vehicle is in orbit with zero acceleration.
Initial orbit 185 km x 184.40 km

>>14687014
S-II has absolutely ass TWR but I can’t recommend RSS/Ro enough too

New trailer for Artemis 1 dropped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSyfFrMcuQI

>>14687063
Every time I see the puny European propulsion element on Orion I laugh

>>14687063
Is NASA in the Youtube business or spaceflight business?

>>14687084
They have the social media actors

Pic of the NK-15 engines being installed in an N1 first stage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BoWDHS7DAQ

>>14686618
>imagine if like, the power went off in a sperm bank
you'd have to find something else to eat

>>14686538
Never

>>14686538
>External fuel tanks
Doesn’t that defeat the purpose?

>>14687111
were those basically like the NK-33s but without gimbaling?

>>14686538
>A FUCKING RAMP

>>14687139
listen here, buster.

>>14687009
>>14686995
Roskosmos should just join esa
combined it might just make them into a proper space agency with an actual space program

>wake up
>more spin testing
>more 7.1 testing
some days you wonder why you even woke up

>>14687218
you wake up to work on space technology and make love and eat the most delightful food

>>14687218
Did you forget that WE ARE GOING?
>>14686590

>>14687224
0/3, should have stayed in bed
at least I saw another SpaceX laun... oh

>>14687232
well go out and make it happen fren

>>14687231
WE ARE NOT GOING anon. You forget, ignorant slave. Now WE ARE CAPABLE

Speaking of CGI, senpai is tonight

>>14687293
I’m disappointed with how they made black Elon evil

>>14687293
Primal is also on tonight, so I am gonna watch that

>>14686748
very neat

>>14687304
Its not even that, its the way they did it that made it stupid/trash. The whole NASA trying to call out NotMusk as an "asshole" for something they had no treaty obligations to rescue, nor recognition/respect from either NASA/Soviets.

>>14687293
I'll be playing nethack instead. A massive waste of time, but a far better use of an evening than that show.

for all mankind bad

>>14687329
Also doing something for the gov without a contract is for suckers

>>14687307
Kind of a shame that there's no /sfg/ /co/ kino

>>14686755
Draper is basically oldspace. Unlike the other CLPS landers, they have a good chance of not folding before 2025.

are we there yet are we there yet
are we there yet are we there yet
are we there yet are we there yet
are we there yet are we there yet
are we there yet are we there yet
are we there yet are we there yet

>>14687370
Depends on if you think Space Brothers or Moonlight Mile or Planetes are /co/ but that's about it. No Western stuff about space. Actually it's kind of weird now that you mention it. I can't think of a single spaceflight-related /co/ project.

>>14687393
Where did S24 go?

>>14686649
they're insecure grifters

>>14687304
That's just how black people are

>>14687436
to space, but don't tell the FAA

>>14685574
the thrusters only stopped because the fuel ran out

>>14687396
Titan AE but that was 20 years ago. I can't think of any recent stuff either, unless you wanna count that Dead Space movie.

>>14687381
two more weeks

>>14685851
>>14685871
he's one of those 1 billion americans (diverse(not white)) types. And an early lifer.

>i-i-i-is t-t-t-that a d-d-discussion of a spaceflight centered show in the spaceflight general?
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NIGGERMAN SAVE MEEE!!!
holy shit, /sfg/ janny has been on a wild powertrip this thread, just nuking everything, yeah yeah i know you're gonna get mad, stomp your feet and give me a 3 day ban

Now that the dust has settled can we all agree that the N1 was honestly a shitty rocket overall? Who tf wants to egress just to get in a cuck lander

>>14687561
The UR-700/900 was obviously the better choice

>>14687561
>>14687571
N1 was a decent design with bad luck and bureaucracy. Flight 4 would’ve made it if it staged a few seconds earlier. Flight 5 used upgraded engines that could be tested before flight but the program was cancelled then

terran-1 9 engine static fire. mars soon.
https://twitter.com/thetimellis/status/1550255811242233856

>>14687639
It's a lot like SLS in that its a decent design that just barely manages to meet the requirements of its mission. With the NK-33/43 and a hydrogen upper stage it would have been able to launch a moon mission that was more than just a political stunt. It still would have probably found a way to fall prey to shitty Soviet manufacturing standards though.

>>14687691
audible lol at that last part

>>14687684
That outer sleeve is just embarrassing, they're ashamed of the surface finish. This rocket is wearing a condom to go and meekly fuck space, but space is a crazy wild bitch who wants a GIANT BARE METAL ROCKET to go and DEPLOOOOOOY its payload into her and get her KNOCKED UP with humanity. Terran-1 probably can't even get it up (into orbit).

>>14685531
where can I learn about the process

>>14687735
I want Terran 1 to work so Bezos can have a former employee create a spinoff company and reach orbit years before his own
also Hard R is cool and publicly talking about being a multiplanet species is and always will be based

>>14687798
I want to see the cuck sleeve rip off the rocket at max-q

>>14687197
would require the collapse of Russia into something the Krauts can properly conquer this time, like how they've economically conquered the rest of europe

>>14687555
Jannies can't ban, only request mods push the button
he's probably the same redditor that has been losing his shit for a while now, and has now become a jannie in the recent recruitment
If this is his first day on the job, he wont last long

If black holes are the absence of a point in spacetime, where did they lose it?

>>14687865
>>14687555 (Dead)
Are you upset because a janny deleted the off topic /tv/ posts? Lmao

>>14687904
They aren't that

soon

>>14687983
Soon?

space x should make some kind of funko pops, maybe little steel starship toys with little movable flaps but unique SN

>>14688008
Micro Machines

Star Wars Action Fleet, only real world spacecraft and figurines of real astronauts/cosmonauts

>>14688008
>funko pops,

>>14688008
Elon action figure when?
[spoiler]Tribute when?

Thinking of watching this, anyone here have any thought on it?

Caption this video, /sfg/
https://youtu.be/ipbGsHL1oZw

>>14688119
Arca

>>14688119
haha i remember posting this awhile back. love TPB, let's get this dirty cocksucker in the air

>>14687014
Efficiency is just one of a few design considerations, a first stage that just throws an RL-10 powered second stage to ~100km is going to be efficient with a ~400 ISP engine doing most of the burn but it's also going to have lots of gravitational losses as the low TWR forces it to burn angled up form the horizon so it doesn't re-enter before reaching orbit.

While I fucking love RP-1 (KSP RO career mode) it's still a game and can't simulate all factors.

>>14688164
It's still not a high gravity loss in a meaningful sense and adding a bit of radial to counter a long burn time is cheap, which is why Dual Engine Centaur III is just used on manned launches for a safer ascent profile and the Centaur V on Vulcan will have two engines just because they more than doubled the propellant. Gravity at ~100km is still >9 m/s but as horizontal velocity gets added it's much less impactful, until orbital velocity is reached and the effect is basically nil. There are factors that RO cannot simulate but no rocket to my knowledge has ever been optimized to prevent gravity loss, only maximizing payload, or delta-v, or lowering cost, all of which generally mean a low to modest TWR. It's a bit of a boogieman for people who don't understand rocketry and are just attracted to the idea of more powerful engines even in situations where it could be disadvantageous, being spurred by YouTubers like Everyday Astronaut who will show a graph of the portion of acceleration lost to gravity without adding a time component which would show that it's increasingly less impactful, see image.

>>14687014
The reason Saturn has low TWR is because it carries crew.
A high TWR first stage can save you like 500ms deltaV.
Yes later stages can have lower TWR because they are effectively flying ballistic.

>>14688275
>A high TWR first stage can save you like 500ms deltaV.
Not over adding more propellant and lowering the TWR.

>>14688267
True but you are posting the chart for a nearly 1:1 TWR second stage, I wouldn't consider that low TWR as something like Centaur is closer to 0.5:1 without payload.

>>14688280
>Just make a bigger rocket bro!

You also need to design your engines for longer burn times if you do that.

>>14688364
>Just make a bigger rocket bro!
I rightfully assumed a situation where engine performance was increased rather than a rocket that was initially very high thrust since that doesn't often happen in reality, it's suboptimal for reasons already discussed despite "muh saved delta-v", and it would leave no room for improvement without the rocket breaking apart from forces it was never designed for or stretching the tanks anyway. See Falcon 1.0 vs Block 5
>>14688357
I see your point but a true comparison is all but impossible since the Falcon 9 second stage does far more work and Atlas should really be considered a three stage rocket because of the boosters.

>>14688364
Is that...? No....

>>14685191
>space booba
IS SPACE GOOD FOR YOU?

>>14688063
Netflix documentaries are unbearable
Some facts, a shit load of emotional bullshit

>>14686471
I'm partial to the StarTram myself.

>>14688063
boing bad

I heard that 7.1 died, is it true?

>>14688364
What is happen ?

>>14686774
was the design of the vostok known in 1961?

one of these days i'll make a gravity loss calculator and all of these arguments will be settled once and for all
(but the anti-TWR crowd is correct)

>>14688858
This is actually an interesting question. Now mind you all I did was a simple google search, but it seems all the soviet newspapers of the time just focused on Yuri’s headshot. Anything with a rocket in it seems to just be artistic renditions of a general rocket. Even the US reporting had a mercury-style capsule

>>14688887
>The Daily Worker was a newspaper published in New York City by the Communist Party USA
wut

>>14688887
just quickly going through a soviet film about vostok 2 and they used this fake-but-not-completely-inaccurate model to depict the spacecraft. they also don't show the rocket. it must have been infuriating to be a space autist in the ussr, sitting through a 50-minute propaganda movie and they won't even show you the goods.

>>14688907
forgot link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS2TWFsMrK8

>>14688887
>Six million
oy gevalt

>>14688907
The Soyuz was literally an ICBM, so they probably didn't want to show off for the west to see. For that matter, the Vostok design was also used as a spy satellite as well.

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