/sci/ - Science & Math

yeah

based public spending

>>14649485
Do you spergs think the image on the right is the entire output of the webb telescope? I thought it was pretty obvious this was just a demonstration.

>>14649485
Ahaha yeah because the JWST was developed over the course of 30 years for the sole purpose of taking a single picture and nothing else for the next 15 years, of course, very original observation. There should be a mandatory IQ test for posting on /sci/.

>>14649485
>muh there's no point in resolution
>muh nihilism
Get fucked peabrain.

>>14649485
soul
soulless

>>14649485
I can see more things on the right side, seems like a good investment, 10 billion dollars are a rounding error compared to the world economy of 100 trillion dollars. Also you are an obese negro

>>14649485
You do understand that 10 billion is literally pennies for a country like the US? The US spends more than that on food stamps for minorities or foreign aid to Israel.

I'd rather get better space pictures than feed Shaniqua's 10th kid

What did you expect, retard? A little green man looking directly into the camera?

>>14649529
Yes.

>>14649485
10 billion
300 million people
20 years

oh no, every American had to pay $1.70 per year
the horror, the horror

>>14649485
You paid 1,7$ on that telescope.
Shut the fuck wagecuck.

>>14649503
this

>>14649518
I'd rather not do either

>>14649485
>thinking we sent a telescope a million miles into space so you could get higher res desktop backgrounds

consider suicide.

>>14649485
Me when I buy a new $5000 telescope to look at a slightly larger version of Jupiter. Totally worth it.

>>14649485
It should have been invested in not finding dark matter.

>>14649485
>Hexagonal lines obscure a bigger area of the image than Hubble.

>>14649485
No, but then again, what in the government is worth the investment? Better put, what isn't a bloated to fuck project? You give any of them enough money and they'll meet your requirements with lowest bidder contractor who somehow manages to bloat the budget.

>>14651089
What did we do it for?

>Schizo-tier theory here
The JWST is really a covert program to provide navigation maps and forward intelligence on potentially habitable planets for the US DoD's secret space program. There are persistent rumors on ATS that not only do we have spacecraft actively "sailing the metric sea" in nearby solar systems, but has an active off-world base affectionately named "Planet Dirt" that fits a description of a fairly recently discovered planet near Proxima Centauri

>>14651194
Data.

>>14651224
Data for pretty pictures?

>>14649529
maybe

>>14651229
No.

>>14651250
What's that data for? Also that's a poorly fit model. I think a recursive smoothing would probably be better. It looks like they're just doing a nearest neighbors with weights, but I think that removes most of intrinsic oscillations (i.e. too smooth)

>>14649503
it wasn't, everyone realizes that, yet none of you retards realize how much could've happened had that money been invested in a huge particle collider.

>>14649485
would have rather that money went to something useful like alternate energy desu

>>14649485
>amerifats paid $10B+ tip for this while their infrastructure and society in general degenerates around them

>>14652350
>starving brown man thinks $10B is a lot of money
kek

>>14652359
>>starving brown man
interesting to see you join me in mocking ameriturds

>>14652365
Poverty society.

>>14649485
Worth more than the $60B investment in droning pakistani kids

Can't wait for the next 20 years of images and data to absolutely blow the fuck out of simpletons like OP. It's gonna be a slow burn.

>>14649485
Yes.
By far a better investment than the trillions going to war, Boomers' pensions, private insurance (a racket scheme) and subsidizing fossil fuels.

>>14652367
My currency is worth more than yours, mutt. And public spending goes toward useful things, not the equivalent of shiny new keys to jingle in front of your face while you oooh and ahhh.

>>14652389
How about using the money for fixing your crumbling infrastructure, or finally implementing a first-world healthcare system long after every other developed nation has already done?

>>14652397
>muh free healthcare

Reminder that every country with free health has problems finding it and nurses and doctors switch to private hospitals whenever possible because they get paid better and don't have to do 14 hour shifts because public is intentionally understaffed.

>>14652423
You live in a third-world nation in denial mate

>>14652390
Post citizenship or shut the fuck up.

>>14652390
If you're European, you paid for the JWST also lmao. Thanks for chipping in and getting zero credit.

>>14652423
It's literally the other way around in my country (with free Healthcare)

>>14649503
I agree, the captchas on /sci/ should look like pic

>>14649503
it will be swiss cheese in 1 year from micrometeorites

>>14652305
>"just one more order of magnitude guys, 100TeV is all we need to unlock the secrets of the universe!"
>30 years later
>"just one more order of magnitude guys, 1PeV is all we need to unlock the secrets of the universe!"
>repeat ad nauseam

>>14652683
I agree but there simply isn't any alternative.

>>14649509
Shut the fuck up

>>14652683
So you're saying every discovery we've made via telescope has been pointless? And do you think that we already know everything we can learn via telescope?

>>14651067
>i'd rather not invest in space

>>14652431
>>14652390
assuming he's a eurofag whos gunna tell him the USD and EURO just matched in parity.

Hubble has SOVL

>>14652721
Nowhere did I say anything even remotely close to that.

>>14649518
>grandiose generosity with other people's money
where'd you get the sense that you're entitled to spend other people's money?

>>14651107
Based Jupiter enjoyer.

Hubble was good enough.

There is nothing to see here, there is no way those are all real galaxies.

>>14655045
>there is no way those are all real galaxies.
source?

>>14649485
You can litterally see the jpeg compression as you compressed a 4k image to 1000x1020 you absolute trogladyte.

Why are there so few photos released? Is there a very strict limit to how many they can take and transmit back or something?

>>14652397
>>14652429
>>14652626
you have lost the faustian spirit, if we had your way we'd die on this rock

>>14655391
>asking a schizo to provide his sources

is the lens flare on webb different because the mirror panels are all hexagonal?

>>14655832
Yes.

>>14652683
Nobody is claiming that. String theorists say that it would take a particle accelerator 10.000 light years long to test their theories. So they are not asking for any money because it would be pointless.

>my dad works at nasa and he stole an important piece, will never work!
>too many steps to unfold, will never work!
>barely better image, lol!

>>14652397
NASA's budget is nowhere near enough to do any of that. It's basically within the margin of error and moving a few billion dollars that actually makes a serious difference into the trillions of bloated healthcare spending is going to do absolutely fucking nothing. We spend $4 TRILLION on healthcare, which is 160 times more than NASA's entire budget. The US needs serious healthcare reform but that's not solved by giving up on space exploration to save a few pennies.

>>14656110
>We spend $4 TRILLION on healthcare, which is 160 times more than NASA's entire budget.
This is extremely funny given the lack of any universal health care system whatsoever.

Why can Americans just not refuse to accept that their little toy is already a micrometeorite pelted toy with the surface structure of a pancake?

>>14656225
literally all for keeping the fucking corn syrup addicted boomers alive.

>>14649485
that picture was made in 12 hours, compared to the older one that took like 12 weeks of exposure. imagine what they can do with the webb telescope if they do a long exposure somewhere that the hubble was never able to see anything.

>>14651286
they can detect habitable planets with it.

>>14652397
>muh healthcare

Fuck the sick and elderly, cull the weak

mainstream media are constantly showing these picture down our throats, clearly these are fake right

>>14657651
Fascism is a bad system, anon.

>>14657663
> clearly these are fake right
based on what? your feelings?

>>14649513
God Jackie was so lame.

>>14649485
>$10B investment no doubt
Its not an investment its an expense. Word have meaning

>>14652397
The solution is to open the medical market but the AMA runs a cartel to guarantee permanent doctor scarcity. Allow more medical schools and lower the barriers to enter medical school, let the tests filter bad students and not some quota

>>14649485
It's worth it if it debunks the lie of Big Cosmology.

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/

>>14649485
>muh 10 bil
>meanwhile glowies spent 800 billion dollars last year

51.
51 days and still no exomoons

>>14652755
what do you mean?

>>14651286
some gas giant's atmosphere's water content

because finding one of the most common molecules in the universe is super exciting

Amerimutt stfu you paid 1,7$ on that scientific marvel. Your lack of appreciation is irrelevant in any cases and let it rent free in your head. It may keep you busy spamming schizo /pol/oid boards for the next 10 months.

>>14649485
>literal weeks of exposure vs quick demo image for the public
Bruh we're already getting atmospheric spectra of exoplanets
They can get (maybe already did) spectra of very early stars/galaxies to figure out how early universe evolved
Deep ir allows to look deep into gas/dust clouds
And more on the pop-sci side of things advanced alien civilisations (dyson swarms advanced) would output great abundance of ir which Webb is specialized in

>>14649485
that's the same picture

All these buttmad space faggots

>>14652655
*uses wolfram*
heh, nothing personnel kid