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My retarded mother just melted some lead weights on the stove to "get rid of negative energy" and I breathed it all in before realizing what it was.
On a scale of 1-10 how fucked am I?

>> No.14632115

>>14632106
is 'negative energy' her pet name for you?

>> No.14632127

>>14632106
i had a lead exposure from lead dust released by a car battery that had it's cells dried out after being drained of acid and sitting in the sun-- i can tell you only what i've learned after my frantic research

1) even a small amount of lead in the body is very poisonous. acceptable limits for daily exposure are measured in micrograms.

2) respiration is the route that absorbs the most lead after exposure, meaning breathing it in is the worst.

3) lead absorbed into the body has about a month half life in the blood-- you won't see symptoms of lead exposure for a month in all likelihood

4) heavy metal treatments exist, but aren't fun. if you had a serious lead exposure, you will be given chelation therapies which can cause other problems.

5) as long as you aren't a child, your chances of becoming retarded or outright dying are low. lead exposure has the worst mental effects for children, but it isn't good for adults.

i would recommend calling poison control and explaining the situation to them and listening to their advice, or going straight to the doctor and trying to get a blood test for lead levels.

>> No.14632128

>>14632106
lead isnt very viotile, you'll be fine
even if it was hot mercury single whiff woudnt do more than some minor symptoms

>> No.14632130

>>14632115
Haha very funny redditfag
No, she saw some bullshit on social media and somehow decided that this was the best course of action.
If the lead fumes don't make me retarded then her genetics definitely will eventually.

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>>14632106
you breathed in liquid lead? must have been painful

>> No.14632134

Blood test relatively soon, before 30 days. Your mother is an imbecile.

>> No.14632135

>>14632127
>>14632128
Thanks for the answers, I will try getting tested when I can.

>> No.14632152

>>14632106
>what a lack of penis does to a woman

>> No.14632153

>>14632106
Seconding >>14632127

Call poison control. Also a doctor, which I assume poison control would recommend. That anon gave you great advice. Definitely call poison control.

>> No.14632160

>>14632152
I just gave his mom penis last night.

>>14632106
Don't worry. I'm literally from Flint, Michigan. Just look at me as the canary in the coalmine, and I feel fine, also I'm feeling fine, so just look at me as FLint the canary. Lsiten, what o look aat. See, nothing to worry about?

>> No.14632177

>>14632106
You'd melt the pot before vaporizing the lead
Go larp somewhere else retard

>> No.14632179

>>14632177
She did this, retard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqgse34VDps

>> No.14632225

>>14632179
>retard
I wouldn't be throwing that word around too much in the future if I were you, anon

>> No.14632227

>>14632225
kek

>> No.14632404

>>14632132
Hes a big guy.

>> No.14632417

Main thing is just don't reuse the vessel for preparing food.

>> No.14632440

People cast lead bullets for years without problems. Melting lead doesn't vaporize enough material to be a problem for a one-time exposure. You're gonna be fine, anon. Don't reuse the melting pan, though. It's hazardous material now. Either use it exclusively for lead or throw it in the garbage.

>> No.14632449

>>14632440
The best thing to do is rinse it with water while the left over lead is still liquid. This is the only way to get all of it out

>> No.14632454

>>14632440
He said "on the stove". Meaning stove itself is contaminated.

>> No.14632494

>>14632106
Mmmm chocolate easter eggs

>> No.14632500

>>14632106
on the topic of dust, I found a hunk of what I'm 99% sure is lead sewn into the arm of a used shirt I was inspecting as part of my job. I don't know why the fuck an old shirt would have a square lead weight sewn into it, but it was as malleable as Plasticine and non-magnetic. there was a whitish, flaky dust on the metal that got kicked up when I handled it, before I realized it was probably lead.

how fucked am I?

>> No.14632502

>>14632454
Not unless she spilled a bunch of lead on it. And even then, it's not going to hurt anything unless you lick your stove. Lead isn't magic, it's not like a ghost that possesses everything that comes near it. It's just a soft metal, and acts accordingly.

>> No.14632507

>>14632502
I don't think turning on the stove when heating element have lead stuck on it is wise.

>> No.14632514

>>14632115
KEK

>> No.14632521

>>14632106
You think your stove gets hot enough to turn lead into gas, you fucking retard?

>> No.14632524

>>14632115
FPBP
lost hard

>> No.14632526

>>14632106
Lame ass larp.

This a gas or electric stove?

>> No.14632527

>>14632521
Dude. Look up how evaporation works.

>> No.14632550

God damn everyone ITT is stupid. Look up leads melting temperature and how hot stoves get. You should all kill yourselves in embarrassment

>> No.14632572

>>14632550
Stoves get as hot as a natural gas flame can get things, I have melted lead on a LPG burner before and don't see why natural gas wouldn't be hot enough.
You are thinking of ovens, not stoves.

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>>14632106
I had this happen once as I was collecting easter eggs and just stuffing them in my pocket, retard that I was as I clambered around looking for eggs behind the tv and so on, the eggs got crushed and melty from the body heat and the choc oozed out all thru my breeches. couldnt even separated it from the foil anymore to eat it, totally wasted. FlsBdMn.bmp

>> No.14632575

>>14632524
What does fpbp mean?

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>>14632575

>> No.14632686

>>14632575
fpbp: "fp" means "lurk", "bp" means "more".

>> No.14632688

>>14632575
Fuck phat boy pussy.
It's slang for tight boicunny.

>> No.14632708

>>14632521
american edumacation...

>> No.14632722

>>14632575
It means "tourists not welcome"

>> No.14632848

>>14632527
>>14632708
Retard. Stoves do not get hot enough to turn a metal into fucking GAS
That’s crazy hot
If that shit went into your lungs you’d be burning to ash, not be poisoned by lead

>> No.14632853

>>14632848
Please, people look up the difference between "evaporation" and "boiling". Educate yourself.

>> No.14632859

>>14632848
Ergo it's actually 100+C most places on earth, because water evaporates. How long has Big Temperature been hiding this fact!?!? Wake up people!!!

>> No.14632895

>>14632853
There’s no difference

>> No.14632902

>>14632106
I didnt know women could do things

>> No.14632905

>>14632895
//_-

>> No.14632915

>>14632895
You know how water can evaporate at room temperature? You dont have to boil it. Liquid lead also evaporates before reaching the boiling point

>> No.14632922

>>14632848
you must be the boy's mother I assume

>> No.14632931

>>14632572
i also thought they were easter eggs, go fuck your ass with your faggot story though

>> No.14632945

>>14632931
Meant to reply to >>14632574

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>>14632575

>> No.14632966

>>14632915
>You know how water can evaporate at room temperature?
Not possible except at lower pressure not normally found on Earth. Water evaporates over time because some of the water molecules get hot enough to become steam.

>> No.14632971

>>14632106
>>14632127
Another shill thread? Lead is an essential nutrient, its deficiemcy causes diabetes, nearsightedness, mental retardation and precocious puberty.

I'm not sure that this is literally genocide, as defined by international law.

>> No.14632981

>>14632966
>Any single atom or molecule has kinetic energy, but not a temperature.

>> No.14632996

>>14632966
>Water evaporates over time because some of the water molecules get hot enough to become steam.
Actual retard take

>> No.14633223

>>14632859
>Wake up people!!!
s/peo/shee/

>> No.14633252

>>14632106
Imagine being this much of a baby.

>> No.14633279

>>14632996
>Actual retard take
Really? I thought that was how it worked as well. How doesit work?

>> No.14633286

>>14633279
>assert spurious claim online
>"no"
>proof?
retard

>> No.14633320

>>14633279
Look up "vapor pressure"

>> No.14633325

>>14632106
1) Beat your mother. That is amazingly retarded
2) You should be fine after this stunt as some people have been breathing in this shit for literal years before symptoms started. But don't try repeating it again ever. Hence (1)

>>14632404
For you

>> No.14633327

>>14633279
So you don't know water evaporates at room temperature?

>> No.14633342

>>14632966
Don't know why you're getting so many replies from seething midwits. Yeah, some molecules gain enough kinetic energy to escape. Doesn't really make sense to talk about individual molecules being "hot", though.

>> No.14633361

>>14633279
Look up "Maxwell-Boltzmann curves".

>> No.14633806

>>14632981
Same thing. Hot stuff just has a lot of kinetic energy that makes it wiggle around aggressively.
>>14632996
Literally what happens. The puddle as a whole may not be hot enough to turn into steam, but some of the individual molecules at the surface will get hot enough to escape. The problem in the comparison between lead and water is that the boiling temperature of lead is over two thousand degrees hotter than the melting temperature, so individual particles gaining enough energy to escape is less likely, as well as the fact these particles would cool off quickly and precipitate due to the much lower temperature of our atmosphere, and lead is literally the heaviest stable element, so even in a gaseous state it’d linger near the floor.

>> No.14634077

>>14633286
>>14633320
>>14633327
>>14633361
The anon was talking about the inner mechanism. Some molecules get more energetic by random chance and can escape.
>>14633361
And?

>> No.14634336

>>14633806
So the evaporation rate only depends on the boiling point?

>> No.14634577

>>14634336
Also humidity, and the boiling point can vary depending on atmospheric pressure. Water at room temperature on Mars would instantly boil because the pressure is under the triple point of water, it can only exist as a solid or gas in such conditions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_point

Liquid water can evaporate regardless of the average temperature because individual molecules at the surface can randomly gain enough kinetic energy, heat, to escape into the air as a gas, and this is why really cold environments are usually also dry, because very few if any liquid water molecules can acquire the energy necessary to escape into the air, and water vapor already in the air loses it’s energy and deposits as ice. This is also why cold drinks get wet; because water vapor in the air touches the cold surface and suddenly transforms back into the liquid state due to the transfer of thermal energy from the water vapor to the cold metal or glass. Other elements or compounds act the same, but most do so at temperature ranges not safe for humans or regularly encountered by us.

An example of this would be CO2. Earth’s atmosphere isn’t thick enough to keep CO2 liquid, so if it’s cold enough, it’ll be a solid, and if it’s hot enough, that solid turns directly into a gas. At a bit over five times the pressure of Earth’s atmosphere, CO2 would transition between solid ice, liquid, and gas just like water does, and water would require almost another hundred degrees Fahrenheit to boil.

Bromine, an element, has a boiling point of only 137 Fahrenheit, so individual atoms can pretty easily escape from the liquid into the gaseous state, causing it to constantly fume. It’s also visibly red even in the gaseous state, so it looks like an evil potion or something.

>> No.14634606

>>14634577
>this is why really cold environments are usually also dry, because very few if any liquid water molecules can acquire the energy necessary to escape into the air, and water vapor already in the air loses it’s energy and deposits as ice. This is also why cold drinks get wet; because water vapor in the air touches the cold surface and suddenly transforms back into the liquid state due to the transfer of thermal energy from the water vapor to the cold metal or glass.
That's a very cumbersome way to spell saturation pressure.
Do you write like a 10th grader to dumb it down fit ne or because you don't know it better?
Also, the shape of the Fermi Dirac distribution does depend a lot on the temperature. The higher the temperature, the higher the chance a particle has way above average energy.

>> No.14634624

>>14634606
Why do you insult people for no good reason?

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>>14632106
>My retarded mother just melted some lead weights on the stove to "get rid of negative energy"

How do these freaks survive?
These are the same people that will insist that everyone have intestinal parasites so they need to ingest massive amounts of garlic, turmeric, and black walnuts.
Also they believe that cat owners are controlled by their cat's parasites.

>> No.14634785

>>14634606
Rude ass nigga
The term “saturation pressure” doesn’t mean anything to people unless you explain it

>> No.14634817

>>14634606
Imagine spoiling for a fight over fucking evaporation lmao.

>> No.14634870

>>14634650
>How do these freaks survive?
turns out that the body is hardy, and most toxins aren't as toxic as people assume they are. people like OP's mom survived decades with lead literally everywhere thanks to leaded gasoline. probably why she's so retarded.

>> No.14634910

>>14632952
this is very accurate

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>>14632106
>On a scale of 1-10 how fucked am I?
It's good shit that lead fumes.
Especially when soldering.

But seriously that might be bad.
Then again, most of our water still somehow has it so I guess it really doesn't matter.

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>>14632115

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>>14632971
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2246629/
And this is why I don't just medical science nowadays. The arsenic poison problem is so obvious that even the Victorians knew it impacted them. Romans often talked about lead related issues too, having lined their pipes with lead.

It's that obvious and apparent the problem for both of those substances, that ancient peoples and early modern pioneers knew of the problems involved with them. Even with our current regime of lead and arsenic removal from our inhaled or ingested environments, we still are having too much for these two things. If anything the rise in those diseases and problems could merely mean that we were adapting to our extraordinary lead and arsenic levels in our systems over the past few millennia. But those adaptations were in vain, because the decline in health from overexposure far outweighed the deficiencies problem on terms of net benefit to our health. In reality they are clearly an obvious detriment to us overall.

>> No.14635075

>>14632127
Reasons this guy is a retard.

1. Acceptable daily limits are set assuming that one is working with the exposure every day. It makes sense that a cumulative toxin like heavy metals has a low limit because someone working in a lead mine every day for 30 years doesn't need much exposure every day to build up a dangerous dose.

2. Just because respiration is the most potent route of exposure, doesn't mean your one exposure is dangerous.

3. Half life =/= time that it takes to show symptoms. It just means that repeated exposures makes buildup in your body more likely.

4. Chelation probably does suck, but you are nowhere near the limit of needing any treatment.

5. Good thing you're not a child.

>>14632440
This guy is the only one making sense. Indoor shooting ranges and lead casting produces a shit ton more airborne lead. People have been doing those things every day for years. Don't waste your time and money with a doctor visit. Lead blood tests cost like $500. Definitely don't waste the time of a poison control operator that has children drinking antifreeze to deal with. Your only risk here is getting murdered by your schizo mother.

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>>14634650
>Also they believe that cat owners are controlled by their cat's parasites.
Diseases commonly influence the brain though. All diseases do this to a degree.
But not on the level that t gondii impacts the mind of a rat. That's why it's theorised to create mere skitzophrenia, rather than the active impulse to be eaten by the cat, in people. I'm beginning to think many digestive waste bred diseases cause a similar issue though. Generally if cat shit is an issue, general cleanliness is also an issue. And when general cleanliness is also an issue, it means that the person has a general schizo temperament to begin with.

I often find that the days when I've got a cleaner room and motivation to tidy is often the days that I do better with focusing and grounding myself to do tasks. But the days when I "can't be fucked" tend to be the days when my mind is distracted or wandering.

That's why I'm best when I tidy a little bit, but not too much. But some days I need to tidy heavily and some days I need to mess around a bit.
Skitzophrenic people, however, live in a "swamp" so to speak.

tl;dr there are many facets of our lives and our selves that impact our state of mental wellbeing.

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>>14635092
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if cat cleanliness is a side effect of naturally selecting themselves while being a host of t gondii. Obviously the cats with the "cleaner" state of mind may manage their bodies in a manner that makes them cope best with the disease.

tl;dr if you have a cat, clean yourself
I am now worried about my cat's littertray issue now, she's not great at being clean for some reason and that may impact her health soon.

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>>14632115

>> No.14635169

>>14632575
I means First Post Best Post.

>> No.14635193

>>14632848
Look at videos of melted lead.
There is vapor coming off when the lead get stirred.
OP probably huffed a few breaths of lead vapor.
He's probably gonna be fine because people use mercury every day for years in shitty mining operation, and it takes decades to poison them.
I've chewed on lead sauter wire before and swallowed it and had no discernable issues.

>> No.14635433

>>14635193
>he breathed in 1800’C gas

>> No.14635585

>>14635070
>Even with our current regime of lead and arsenic removal from our inhaled or ingested environments, we still are having too much for these two things. If anything the rise in those diseases and problems could merely mean that we were adapting to our extraordinary lead and arsenic levels in our systems over the past few millennia.
No it wasn't over millenia, but mere decades. You remove lead, people get nearsighted and diabetic, and lose the ability to speak and think normally. This is best seen in Australia, where lead was removed very late and children had substantial concentrations in their blood until the 2000's.

Lead was used in medicine. Ancient egyptians used lead based powders to ward off the "evil eye", and lead sulfide is still widely used in islamic countries. Romans, contrary to what is often written in fact preferred water as soft as possible, and believed that hard water may cause cloudy vision.

If anything, we may have evolved to retain more, and favor its use by the more vital organs, and we have almost definitely evolved to absorb less iron - the genes for hemochromatosis may prove to be the ancestral one if this is true.

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>>14632115
OP DESTROYED YET AGAIN

>> No.14635607

>>14635585
Ah leadguy, i hoped you came here.
Are all lead compounds beneficial, or is there some to avoid ?
Is drinking in a lead-lined mug safe, and enough to ward off NPCness ?

>> No.14635615

>>14635607
Also, i'm starting to truly believe you, especially after noticing all studies against lead are written by jews.

>> No.14635677

>>14632106
Have her make cool DIY crystals next

>> No.14635691 [DELETED] 

>>14635607
I honestly do not know. Just use anything made of lead and keep it in distilled water that you drink. You may sprinkle the lead with vinegar from time to time to get more. You should notice the sweetish taste in the water.

>> No.14635702

>>14635607
I honestly do not know. Just use anything made of lead and keep it in distilled water that you drink. You may sprinkle the lead with vinegar from time to time to get more. You should notice the sweetish taste in the water.
It isn't the main water that I drink, I let it sit and drink it from time to time then add more water, usually leftover hot water from when I make tea.

>> No.14635724

>>14635607
>>14635702
I know that this isn't a very scientific thing to do, but I suppose that letting my taste guide me is the bet bet since the required dose is unknown.

>> No.14635750

>>14635075
>Your fate here is getting murdered by your schizo mother.
FTFY

>> No.14635832

>>14632106
once shouldn't be a problem, chronic exposition is a fucking mess, for it gives a condition known as saturnism; for example king george the third of great britain used to drink from lead glasses

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>>14634785
It means that cold air isn't drier than warm air.

>> No.14635865

>>14635832
>once shouldn't be a problem, chronic exposition is a fucking mess, for it gives a condition known as saturnism; for example king george the third of great britain used to drink from lead glasses
False. His hair was tested and it was not high in lead.

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>>14632115
wow

>> No.14636590

>>14635075
>Indoor shooting ranges and lead casting produces a shit ton more airborne lead. People have been doing those things every day for years.
Turns them into low self control rage monkeys though.

>> No.14637484

Usually its used salt to break negative energy.
She was deceived.

>> No.14637520

>>14632106
>On a scale of 1-10 how fucked am I?

She just got rid of the negative energy (+60% hp) so unless you already had low HP from a car accident or whatever you should be fine.