/sci/ - Science & Math

>>14550032
Covid tourists stuck around unfortunately. I wish someone would doxx them already and do what needs to be done, that way this place can return to normal.

>>14550032
Get used to it. 4chan will continue to be targeted until the original userbase gives up and leaves.

time to find other boards

It won't recover.

>>14550043
kill yourself glownigger

>newfag hasn't seen how bad /sci/ was ten years ago

This board belongs to /pol/ now. Accept it or die.

i think /sci/ is pretty much the same as it ever was, since i started lurking in 2016/2017. it was actually the worst around late 2020 imho, and there was healing period after the drumpf/brandon election

it could just be that elections always fuck up boards—there is a midterm coming up now.

also could be /qa/ lost to /tttt/ so maybe they’re here as the emergency soijak overflow

>>14550032
>Remember when le homework board used to be good

>>14550043
then we will leave to Telegram glow nigger.

>>14550032
You we're never a sci user just a pol immigrant

>>14551078
*kills people with gun that shoots air*
holy based

>>14550043
Why would they want us out there

>>14551078
Mass shooters have to be the most cowardly faggots spawned in our time

What kind of board would you like?

>>14551125
kek I saw the stream that faggotanon posted too. In the most cosmic sense of the characterization, shooters are vacuous, concave-noggin pussies, void of any connection whatsoever, let alone to meanings deeper than whatever solipsistic justifications they may or may not use to end the lives of people who lived alongside them in the same precious life.

>>14550032
The food is better

>>14550043
I use the shitted up boards out of spite though. There will always be some gems anyway.

/sci/, like /b/, was never fucking good

what, you miss ek and harriet shitposting days?

>>14551136
Yes. There were problems but people actually cared about the board.

>>14550032
I remember when this board used to actually discuss PhD.-level mathematics. It's fucking sad what happened to this place, an argument for gatekeeping if there ever was one.

>>14550032
>if I'm not misremembering
you are
the decline started in 2015

first, pure shitposting gave way to retarded politics and raids from other sites. pic related

>>14551136
>>14551142
do you guys have EK pics? i heard she was like an 8 but all the pics are gone

>>14550032
are you talking about "muh /pol/ invasion" or something like that?

/sci/ of 2010 was literally /pol/-lite.

>>14551159
>8
lol

>>14551158
>>14550032
in this image, focus on the chart at the bottom (although the text is fairly accurate desu)

meme politics and faggots shitted up 4chan. of course that bled over to /sci/.

people may tell you /sci/ was never good, but there's a difference between "not good" and "absolute dogshit"

>>14551185
>there's a difference between "not good" and "absolute dogshit"
Profound. I'd consider this OC just for how deeply it BTFO's the pessimism argument.

>>14551174
that’s kind of an 8 right? EK in middle and harriet on right?

i feel like the lore i’ve read indicates that EK had much “better” pics than that.

i guess it is stupid now since she’s probably way too old to be “attractive” by now but i still was curious about how she managed to capture this board and become the most prolific namefag ever here—i assumed she had some pretty scandalous pics to achieve such a status and in the archives there seem to be at least a few grainy thumbnails that look kinda hot if only the original res still existed

>>14550032
We're never leaving.

test

>>14550042
>I wish someone would doxx them already
They partially doxxed themselves. Didn't you see all the AWS filenames when the ivermectin shit was happening?

>>14551153
>I remember when this board used to actually discuss PhD.-level mathematics.
PhD in calculus?

>>14551142
>muh rose colored glasses
Why would you do this to yourself? We had non-stop threads about
>climate change
>0.999...=1
>underageb& being retards
>is X a pseudoscience
>muh current popsci/adjacent celebrity
>muh current scientific community outcast schizo
It was 99% shit, just like now.

>>14551241
How could I miss barnetposting and triple integrals, good old times, unlike now and schizo guy who hates reals.

>>14551159
>>14551195
>become the most prolific namefag ever here—i assumed she had some pretty scandalous pics to achieve such a status
No, she just replied to every fucking post and tried to derail every fucking thread.

genuinely liked the questions and math answers posted here back in 2018. it was funny to see the way people argued and how they stepped over things below their eyes. now its all emotional logic processing of reality [le onions] [le gigachad] etc. seems like an infantile stage of the board, hope it grows

>>14551251
The absence of trash is not what makes a board good, you fool.

>>14550043
>4chan will continue to be targeted by low IQs who waltz in thinking they're gonna tell us whats what and who later stagger away with their brain fried and questioning their preconceived notions of reality.
Glowniggers have an even higher suicide rate than trannies do, 4chan is who drives them to it. Information warfare is a nasty affair, they can surrender and beg for mercy whenever they want.

>>14550032
>>14551185
i like this one. really captures the shittiness of /sci/ in 2018 (i.e., before 2020).

what happened on 4/10/2018 is the black hole photos got released and some chick got media coverage.
you can see /sci/ experienced an unprecedented traffic surge, way more than typical, even for more important or impactful findings.

this influx of crossboard / off-site shitposters flooded the board with threads for 2-3 days, derailing every thread on the topic and spamming new threads to criticize her. they even slid the math general, lol.
from the level of discussion it was clear most of them had no clue about the science at all, nor did they give a shit. they were only here to obsess over some chick getting 1 iota of credit for a scientific accomplishment.

>>14551259
If you can't bother to search through shit to get to some of the good stuff like in ye goode olden days, boy do I have a solution for you :^)

>>/sci/?task=search2&search_op=op&search_ord=new
>>/sci/?task=search2&search_op=op&search_ord=old

>>14551189
there's always been a lot of trash, a few quality threads, and then some more trash.
but at least the trash was /sci/ related, and i daresay some of it was even entertaining.
a shitty thread used to be some guy trying to push his Vixra garbage and refusing to accept the criticism.
now it's all this politically motivated garbage coming from offboard, and there's way more of it

>>14551327

>>14551359
lmao

>>14551185
>Gamergate
Oh yes, gamergate definetly brought more traffic than the fappening lol.

>>14551158
I've seen tons of these types of images, all contradicting eachother.
>>14551185
Why do you think these people were attracted to 4chan to begin with?

>>14551263
You think glowies waste their time on you? They literally just keep flooding the place with reddit dropouts and literal bots while you seethe and cope.

>>14551359
thank you, these dueling images are a perfect example of what's wrong with the board now

>>14551892
>Why do you think these people were attracted to 4chan to begin with?
because it's unmoderated and because of /pol/
they also get marching orders from others, see above just a few posts, the blackhole photo >>14551268
they have no reason to think anyone even gives a god damn, but that doesn't stop them

>>14550032
Feels the same to me.
>inb4 you're part of the cancer
Jokes on you because I've been ruining this board since 2018 not 2020.

here's a perfect example of the cancer.

he comes in and posts a ready-made meme of strawmen, ready to launch, to derail a thread and start an argument about the value of science itself
they come from stormfront and breitbart, ironically co-opting postmodernist talking points to shit up the board.

if only these piggots would consider "both sides" of the debate about the benefits of drinking bleach and give it a shot

>>14552096
referring to this shitpost >>14551362

>>14552096
>pic
So this is what a scientist looks like?

>>14552096
>can't even center the titles of the categories
>cant even make pics all the same size
>uses vomit green color of text I'm not going to read
fucking loser cant even make a pictograph worth a shit you retarded fucking cuck. I guarantee that last pic looks a hell of a lot more like your average /sci/ poster than your average /pol/ poster

>>14551327
>now it's all this politically motivated garbage coming from offboard, and there's way more of it
the difference between old /sci/ and new /sci/ is more or less the same thing that has happened to all of 4chan, just worse; shitposting has stopped coming from /b/ and started coming from /pol/
there were always tons of garbage threads, but they used to be 225 posts of "is .999... = 1?" flamewars rather than one guy spamming walls of text at himself about vaccines. it's like this on every board.

the problem is that /sci/ is unable to handle it compared to other boards, both because it's easier to pretend you're on-topic (virology is science, climate science is science, genetics is science, campus politics masquerades as academic discussion. all sorts of political shit is 'scientific' in nature) and because /sci/ has literally zero moderation anymore. you can post whatever garbage you want and as long as it's not porn it will stay up for days because either this board has no mods at all or they just don't care

>>14551892
>Why do you think these people were attracted to 4chan to begin with?
Astroturfing

>>14550032
4chan always has been, and always will be, shit
been here since 2011

>>14552138
/b/ shitposting was mainly immature banter and being a retard on purpose
the current wave of cancer feels much more tragic and malicious in nature, some of the posts genuinely sound like cry for helps and the inner monologues of underachieving nobodies lashing out at society

Anyone remember the clamped schizo. He was annoying, but i rather have him dozens of antivax threads.
Also, does anyone know what happend to the furry in sqt? He was one of the most educated users in regards to physics

Do you want to complain or do something about it?

this board is now, and always has been, faggot pseud retard who have no idea wtf they are talking about. You just never realized this because you too are a faggot pseud retard

>>14552138
Mods do delete threads here. They're very active in deleting pedo threads, as they should. But more mysteriously if OP gets exposed as a tranny, the thread gets nuked minutes later.

>>14552303
there is no question whatsoever the mods here have always been shills. I have been exposing them as such since at least 2016, gotten them to admit it even. In one thread I even posted a link of exposing and that also got immediately nuked. Let's see if they are lurking now and will do it again.

>>/sci/thread/S9336326#p9336502

>>14552247
>Also, does anyone know what happend to the furry in sqt?
Pretty sure he just finished his degree and got bored of this place.

>>14551153
>an argument for gatekeeping if there ever was one.
In a way it was always pseudo gatekept by its relative obscurity.
But that's over now. Probably never going back.

>>14552138
Good points.

.999...=1 was annoying, but keep in mind that every semester, millions of students around the world are exposed to the concept for the first time.
As long as people are learning math, we can expect .999...=1, Monty Hall, the diagonal argument, etc. to stay permanently active on an unmoderated board, with activity at some "natural" level between a mix of trolls and a revolving set of new posters trying to argue in good faith. It was annoying, but at least it made sense.

>>14550032
It really isn't that different.

By the way? There's a report function. I suggest people use it. Trolling, spamming, ultra low effort posts, etc, are all explained in the FAQ. Failure to act in good faith to use this feature is kind of our own damn fault.

Also? For fuck sake since 2004 "don't feed the troll" has been the law of the land.

>>14550032
Sorry anon, it was fun being here since the 2010s.
But likely dedicated anons or those interested in conversation over clout are dying off.

>>14551897

>>14550032
Popularity means regressionb to the mean.
And the mean is fucking retarded.

I'm an oldfag by the way, here from like way before late 2020, like i was already here by may or march 2020.

>>14552646
Even february really, so i know what you feel OP, fucking summerfags, i was here before the summer and saw for myself the influx of summerfags as an oldfag.

>>14552615
mid 1990s 4chan was the golden era

>>14551135
bro if u think this board is shitted up go on /adv/ its like a fever dream

>>14551892
>pretend to be idiots long enough you will soon find yourself surrounded by idiots pretending to bein good company
I mean its the only natural progression given the nature of this website

>>14551089
Hello glowfag

>>14551125
>Mass shooters have to be the most cowardly faggots spawned in our time
For realz but what do you expect but cowardice, from their kind.

10% of the content posted in this thread has subsequently been censored.

bump to raise awareness of this important issue. how do we improve the quality of science sciencists?

>>14550032
It was never great but it tanked in quality pretty noticeably during the covid thing.

>>14553633
>It was never great but it tanked in quality pretty noticeably during the covid thing.
thanks to .gov shills pushing the big-pharma narrative.

>>14553647
that's right. /sci/ has always been an anti-gene therapy board.

>>14550032
The whole website took a big dive at the start of lockdowns, and im not just talking pol shit. Its like everyone became more deranged and aggressive, no surprise given the worldwide trauma. Maybe the mods should close the site for a month to let everyone reset a bit. I've been addicted to this site before and felt like shit, but taking a few weeks off always fixed things and made everything I read on here seem hilarious or interesting.

>>14550032
/sci/ got redpilled about the jewish science, that's what happened.
What did you even talk before 2020? Did you just play coin flip game and see who scores the best in probability theory?

>>14550032
After the Turnips lost the electron, they fled to their huge boxes to shit n piss up the place.

>>14551094
This, /sci/ was literally academic zoomers trying to get Phd in McDonalds

More people are getting pissed off with society so they come to the hacker known as 4chan. Lots of people like sciencie shit too, so they come here.
Also consider all the glowies that are on the internet, so they of course want to foul this place up because we need proof, and we should believe everything authority says without proof so we need to be dissuaded from talking to others.

>>14553786
Science shit should be stopped. Scientists are dangerous madmen who will stop at nothing to force people to participate in their experiments.

>>14552247
>clampe
of course i remember clamped vaccinated circumsized anon. thank god he’s gone. also good riddance to Yukari poster. he was smart but only posted obscure unhelpful ego trip shit

anybody remember OptimizedBro?

>>14553032
>le gang violence is the same as some virgin going out and killing unrelated individuals from resentment for being born ugly meme
You're not convinving anyone with two brain cells.

>>14553908
>its less of a crime when blacks shoot blacks than it is when non-blacks are the victims of shootings.
fine sentiment and supported by science, africans have the lowest percentage of homo sapiens DNA of any of the subspecies of humans. the 3/5ths estimate for the value of an african that the northerns tabulated for early census counts was surprisingly accurate given that they didn't even know about DNA back then. 60% to 85% would be the range that DNA suggests.

no it was literally always like this

>>14550032
Im unsure if the perceived loss of quality is objective or subjective.
Since I started browsing sci ive gone thru 3/4 of my bachelors and now almost 1/2 of my masters.
Ive gained so much knowledge and experience in that time that I dont know if the problem is that I dont find most things posted here interesting anymore as they're mostly basic.
But then again I remember far higher post quality a few years ago as well as far more advanced discussion, but then again then again this might be simply a perseption issue.

>meanwhile on /pol/

>>14554212
/pol/ has lots of science threads, theres probably more science discussion overall on /pol/ than here

>>14554226
go back

The only reason /sci/ became worse is because Tooker left and all we have now are rip-off Tookers.

>>14550032
it's all of society not just this board

Reminder that 4chan was never good and that anyone who says that it was better at one point is either a nostalgic retard or more likely a newfag.

>>14554644
Tell me you're fresh off of reddit without saying it. :^)

>>14554662
oldfag here. what's the problem officer?

>>14554667
Imagine regurgitating 4chan cliches so stale that they're effectiely part of normie culture, completely out of context, and thinking you're gonna fool anyone.

>>14554662
You couldn't sound more mad if you tried, redditor. 4chan was never good.

>/sci/ got bad in 2020
Found the 2016 election tourist

>/sci/ got bad in 2016
Found the 2014 /v/eddit tourist

>>14554674
>he's so low iq he doesn't get the joke
tell me when you started posting on 4chan. and please don't lie, i'll know. protip: 4chan didn't get inundated with some boogeyman as you're wont to misunderstand---there has always been crosstalk between 4chan and other online forums. the problem is that society changed, and you're just a sheep along for the ride reeeeeeeeeeeeing at the next boogeyman. you're not special, you're not intelligent. you're just a social outcast, crying for acceptance on a board filled with other dejected social outcasts like aspies, chicks with dicks, etc. there are those of us who have actually been here from the start, and we can identify the cancer that's killing this site from a mile away

>>14554689
>>14554679
>>>/r/eddit

>>14554726
If 4chan was good, then you're probably what contributed to it being bad

>>14554726
ah yes, you're making /sci/ such a better place to post with that.

>>14554731
>>14554741
>>>/r/eeeeeeeeeeeeeedit

>>14550032
I know exactly what you mean. Thisd board has been absolutely infest with right wing schizos, conspiracy theorists, and morons like this guy >>14550043 for the last two years.

>>14554689
>>14554741
>newfag found jewgle

>>14554749
>Thisd board has been absolutely infest with right wing schizos, conspiracy theorists, and morons like this guy >>14550043 for the last two years.
>>>/r/eddit

>>14554746
>>14554757
>>14554726
please cease this niggardly behavior at once tranny

>>14554749
>hello fellow kids, I too hate the right wingers shitting on our narratives and exposing us

>>14554768
>Niggardly
You think you're so clever with your subtle racism? I bet you're so egotistical you're sniggering at your own outrageous wit.

>>14554746
Cry harder faggot

>>14554775
I cant imagine but being this effeminate must be like. Do you get your balls waxed little faggot?

>>14554759
>>14554771
I literally couldn't give less of a fuck about whatever you're preaching, I just know you turned every thread into pointless screeching with one line replies and soijak spamming.

>>14554778
I do get my balls waxed. Your mom likes them that way.

>>14554779
I literally couldn't give less of a fuck about whatever you're babbling on about. You have a double digit iq and spend most of your time drooling into your food as you dilate your neo-vagina

>>14554781
she only likes mine that way incel. Why dont you go open a fresh can of tuna because that is the only whiff of pussy you are gonna get

>>14554787
Why yes I do have a double digit IQ... In binary.

>>14554787
Yes, this is it.
I wish schizos had state mandated caretakers or some shit so they wouldn't be allowed to ruin online spaces.

>>14554749
hello shill shiteater

>>14551128
what is this website

>>14554813
A small imageboard I run on my home PC.
http://z5lcip4dafatwwa6hvyibizpzwycvwp67cjga3hzjhxhwvuyaqavxnid.onion/All/
http://l7jqnz3yfe2wtwietafoie%61dmgqbu7dcmzmey63ktbjtxal3he4a.b32.i2p/All/

>>14550953
it will become only worse

>>14554775
Obviously this joke was too subtle for the namefag.

>>14554689
when someone takes the perspective that other websites own their stolen 4chan memes, that person is identifying themselves and an interloper.
4chan is the center of the universe, memes and archetypes originate on 4chan and expand outwards from the central point, eventually reaching the suburbs where the midwit majority dwells. the internet is not a web, its more like a solar system with 4chan at the center, shedding light on everything and delivering all the power.

>>14554779

>>14555581
Please sir let me alone... I am esl... I don't know about CIA or vaxx or trannies or any of this stuff...

>>14550032
zoomers destroyed this site

>>14552195
>Current year plus 7 (damn)
>Libs are still screeching about muh Russian shills
Embarrassing

>>14555634
>Zoomers
Who do you think came up with meme terms like this? Protip: it's the same people who think sneed and soijack are the funniest memes in existance.

>>14555668
>i hate sneed
>i hate soijax
>i come to 4chan.org to browse the internet because i hate sneed and soijax
are you dumb, a glownigger, or both?

>>14555688
lol sneed soijak. picture related: it's you

>>14554689
>the problem is that society changed
lol that's what the fuck we've been saying for the entire thread

>>14555655
>Libs
>screeching
perfect example of the cancer. coming into this thread to fight muh culture war with 1 liners and soijaks. fuck off.
/sci/ doesn't give a fuck about the political orientation of any faggot "armies".
left wing "correct the record" faggots actually amplified stormniggers & retarded evangelical schizos by engaging with them.
leave our board now.

Let’s make something very clear: Any negative post pertaining to the state of the board in this thread is guaranteed to be an astroturfer or dipshit who actually believes in his inane political garbage. This stands for both the LEFT, like leftypol and tranny commie discord raiders, and the RIGHT, like TRS, /pol/, and wiggers. Both of these same groups are shitposting and brigading in this thread at this very moment, and to anyone not an imbecile it stands clear.

Math and science cannot be talked about in an honest fashion unless politics from either side are completely banned. Retard Marxist trannies and dipshit ppl boys all get banned and executed, and then your precious /six/ can stop being a “battleground” where both sides smear their mental feces all over everything. Impossible, not worth saving. Move to substack or your local uni math forums/chats. Finding some great blogs with really smart authors is the way to go. Only suffering awaits you here.

>>14555722>i hate sneed
>i hate soijax
>i come to 4chan.org to browse the internet because i hate sneed and soijax
are you dumb, a glownigger, or both?

>>14556049
sneed glows brightly

>>14551089
>lurking in 2016
please go back, please please go back

>>14550032
Then stop coming to this website? Jesus Christ, find a hobby or something, you think you’re the first to say this?

>>14556502
problem is, state pharma shills like you made all of Internet a shithole

>>14551124
To isolate us and keep us in a system they have more control over. We are more dangerous together.

>>14550032
You're not conscious

>>14551211
>low test
FTFY

>>14550953
Fundementally an issue at the TCP/IP level Ihmo, fact of the matter is a GPT botnet can post thousands of messages in the timeframe a human can post one.

Too bad, lots of anons will review their incarnation after passing and see that they spent years talking into the void thinking they were amongst other individual humans. Web3 may not be optimal, but it can be built with a degree of tolerance towards this

>>14556642

>>14556649
It's the opposite, blockchain redundancy leads to cascade failures when the AI take over. What you considered security becomes your undoing. Like right now, you're preaching demoralization, hoping to get others mining $crypto.choice('personal') and don't really care if any given AI is problematic or not.

>>14556652
Literal preprogrammed response

>>14556656
what isn't a programmed response?

>>14556710
Questions.

>>14556655
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybil_attack

the best web2 can do to prevent above is reddit moderate, alot of work in web3 happens around mitigating and dealing with the above problem.

For examples, bots piggy back 4chan infrastructure, so the parasite eats for free. In a pay to post web3, bots have to pay disproportionately more to spam the network than just a regular user. There is an endless slate of ways to curate an identity that can be cryptographically verified. Distributed data stores that address on hash content guarantee no one is being shoved into an alternate reality internet (like google showing certian doodles to only certain user histories)

It may be demoralizing, but its just information entropy. I'm not confirming or denying a percent of posts here is bots, I'm just saying that basic physics guarantees that AI will drown out human voices over basic web2 infrastructure.

I dont think the tech stack will matter much in an AI take over, but purely the result of how the AI-human relationship evolves. If we cant play nice and be frens no technology change will help

>>14556740
Here is the problem
You have to pay shitcoins to post

>>14556795
your paying here too, does one truly think the banner advertisements everyone ad blocks is funding this monolith?

we're likely feeding the very AI we are discussing.

Advantageous from my point of view, the smartest AI will be the least linguistically constrained, which means the freest place in the net has the best text. The more one writes, the more they reinforce that prose in the neural net

The choice will be, post into an AI void while all ones personal data is sold and fed back to them in adverts

or post with other human beings, like 500 posts for the price of a coffee on cheaper chains.

Highly sensitive stuff can be left to more expensive chains

asking for bot free and free in the next decade is like trying to have your cake and eat it

>>14556833
spacing, wall of text, zero meaning. bot.

This board has a fundamental problem. 4chan users are pretty dumb and science and math are smart subjects. Reddit may have its flaws but it is superior for discussing science due to a more intelligent user base who mainly all have degrees. The average poster here has no degree, lives in a basement and was educated by whatever random videos they found on YouTube.

US government literally funds disinifo groups for push their narrative.

>>14550032
I'm here for over a decade. And I didn't notice it getting worse, so try to explain what exactly is making this board worse, because your thread is definitely not making it any better.

>>14556939
this. shills swarming this place don't get dumber, they always were super dumb