/sci/ - Science & Math

>>14515471
seething bugs lmao

that FLIR footage of the parachutes tho. mwah!

Statements that are no longer true, I'll start:
>Without SpaceX we'd still be relying on the Russians.

>>14515489
FTS Archive
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KCJBL632oieD1r6JOh_5Eg9NTcf_-hH8?usp=sharing

Hop to Io wen

>>14515499
>"Hop"
>to Io
That's like the guy in the last thread talking about "quick EVA"s

>>14515496
Senator Shelby is seeking reelection.

>>14515499
two more decades

>>14515489
So is Ballast going to have the stones to demand another unmanned demo, this time without leaks and propulsion failures?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2soMBF5z1o

>>14515507
DEPOTS
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>>14515496
Atlas V uses RD-180 though

>>14515496
Honestly I'd still ride on Soyuz rather than Starliner, far more kino

LV0010 has arrived.

>>14515521
I honestly feel pity for Soyuz. I mean look at it. 2022 and they haven't even updated its screens, come on. Is there anybody at pockocmoc that gives a single fuck about it?

>>14515528
oh goddammit

So how much does it cost to refurb Starliner for the next flight? Is it a minimal amount or does it cost almost as much as building a new one from scratch? Can Starliner really be considered reusable it it's the latter?

>>14515530
Nope, and expect all funding to be cut once Russia collapses in Ukraine

>>14515471
A physical attack is literally impossible for them to win though. Do they not truly understand Starship? Do they just think it's bigger and better, but not really different? Obviously they are paying attention, seeing as they've been pushing for reusability and copying SpaceX instead of NASA. Is there just some disconnect between the sector that covers their space program and the one that covers whatever attacking satellites would fall under?
They mentioned lasers, but could they really develop a system that could destroy Starlink satellites for cheaper than SpaceX could replace them?

>>14515534
>once Russia collapses
Maybe the real probes past LEO were the friends we made along the way.

>>14515539
China's state has more capital than SpaceX does. So even if asat missiles cost 10x as much to Chinese, they will be able to break SpaceX's bank, without the US government intervention.

>>14515544
Starlink is a national security asset.

>>14515539
>>14515544
lol a direct physical attack on the starlink constellation would be responded to with a nuclear strike

>>14515550
>>14515551
Joe Biden certainly doesn't believe so. Especially if Russians/Chinese attack during his presidency.

>>14515533
>So how much does it cost to refurb Starliner for the next flight?
Whatever the government will pay.

>>14515555
He's in charge of literally nothing, and his handlers will kowtow to the DoD's bloodlust

>>14515555
What was it that one anon said? "Not even God could pry a shiny new toy from the hands of the Pentagon," or something along those lines?

>>14515555
>implying Zombie Brandon is even in the nuclear chain of command anymore

>>14515528
big dilator you have there

>>14515539
Yes. Toss up a bunch of FOD and let chain reactions happen. Yes, the low orbit means the debris will eventually deorbit and burn up. But even if that only takes a couple of years, that's two years that Starlink is without a revenue stream.
Even if we ignore that debris, China (or other countries) can toss up FOD much cheaper than Starlink can put up replacements and of course China has much deeper pockets. Lastly, what most think is Starlink's strength becomes its weakness: it is a constellation.
If there are gaps in the constellation, it ceases being able to provide consistent service. The density of the constellation is meant to increase to the point where gaps are easily filled in by other Starlink satellites nearby. EOL and random failures will happen at a mostly consistent rate, meaning failed birds can deorbit and be replaced. That's very different than having a nation-state intentionally targeting your satellites.
China doesn't need to destroy every single Starlink satellite to put them out of business. They only have to destroy the reliability. Starlink had a policy of absolute neutrality and a willingness to abide by access restrictions any country put on access from their soil. Then at their very first opportunity, they jumped on the Ukraine bandwagon, showing the world that Starlink isn't neutral, it's an extension of United States foreign policy.
They haven't even fully populated their constellation yet and they've already made an enemy of Russia and gave notice to everyone else on the planet that this is just another tool of US imperialism. It was probably the dumbest decision Musk has ever made and will haunt the company pretty much forever. I'm sure he thought it would help him with his woes with the current administration, but it's unlikely to have been worth the cost. Maybe if Starlink spins off into an independent company without Musk at the helm, selling service to those outside of the "international community" can be salvaged.

Falcon 9 Block 5 reached 100th mission.

>>14515560
The DoD can't even get the pencil pushers at the FAA to fall inline. It's a completely toothless organization, especially politically.

Is anyone else betting that the USSF will opt for air-launch-to orbit systems, just to eliminate the need to be dependent on existing spaceports?

There are only three locations in the entire continental U.S equipped to launch orbital class rockets, with the fourth (Boca Chica) awaiting FAA certification.

got an insider tip from starbase.. elon personally ordered the fagiolis off site. it’s over.

>>14515580
>Toss up a bunch of FOD and let chain reactions happen
The kessler syndrome meme has been disastrous for the discussion of spaceflight and space strategy.

That said, everything that came after on geopolitics was an even worse take. That's gotta be some kind of an achievement.

>>14515528
nice, hoping for a smooth flow to launch ops

>>14515528
Kek, what faggots. So glad i didn't buy

>>14515593
based, all about those united rentals imo

>>14515586
making a launcher plane that can put up the payload sizes ussf is interested would be too much money for them

>>14515586
Just getting a capsule into space using air-launch-to-orbit would require a carrier aircraft larger than anything ever built.
>eliminate the need to be dependent on existing spaceports?
Ocean platforms would do the same thing and then they can launch payloads that aren't a joke.

>>14515528
Astra supports the Current Thing™

>>14515634
Sir I told this general not to make negative comments about Astra. Delete that post right now.

>>14515528
they just earned themselves a new investor

>>14515528
I can't help but think of CAPSTONE as a mission in KSP where you throw a nosecone into a wide munar orbit and declare it a pathfinder.

>>14515580
What a wall of words that amounted to retarded Schizo posting
Are shills on /k/ or /pol/ or /int/ mad because of some sort of new happening about starlink?
Oh wait I recognize that file+name, yeah it’s a /k/ spillover episode

Are we going lads?

twitter.com/sciguyspace/status/1529118560529879041

>>14515665
>accommodations for environmental impact
Spray the perimeter with Raid

>>14515663
The Chinese and Russian shills on /k/ and /pol/ are beyond buttblasted that they can't jam Starlink.

>>14515652
CAPSTONE is Rocket Lab. This is TROPICS.

>>14515681
Oh my bad, I mixed up my ASTRA with my RocketLab due to excessive alcohol intake.

>>14515679
Yeah once Russian media started posting about lasers that can blind satellites the seething resumed.

>>14515665
>experimental launches
>however they will have to make some accommodations for environmental impacts
How is this a win??

>>14515690
They were only ever shooting for a few experimental launches a year. It was in their own fucking proposal
>muh accomodations
Could be anything from unenforceable handshake agreements and a berm to impossible to achieve infrastructure requirements. Probably more the former than the latter

>>14515676
I want to wade out into the wetlands around Boca Chica with a roofing torch, setting fire to every arthropod I see

>>14515580
>Starlink had a policy of absolute neutrality and a willingness to abide by access restrictions any country put on access from their soil.
>Then at their very first opportunity, they jumped on the Ukraine bandwagon, showing the world that Starlink isn't neutral, it's an extension of United States foreign policy.
No?

>>14515698
>on their soil
lmao it's a vatnik crying that Ukraine is stolen land. The actual government of Ukraine likes Starlink.

>>14515580
>>14515698
Ukraine's government greenlit Starlink deployment. Starlink is neutral in a sense that it only works when the host government allows it.

Unless you're into the belief that Ukraine is a fake country that doesn't have the right to exist like Russia claims. Or maybe China when China would try to invade Taiwan and claim Taiwan doesn't have the right to exist.

>>14515702
if russia thinks ukraine isnt real country, they should just roll in and take it

>>14515705
kek

>>14515702
Yep that totally explains why Russia and China are so mad. I hope Elon liked having Tesla assets in China because those will probably be seized now.

>>14515708
No they won’t.

>>14515708
If China wants to cut off its arms and legs, then why not. Extreme measures will only be taken when China is at war and is economically isolated.

>>14515708
Surely strangling the golden goose will create more eggs.

Starlink terminal used by Boeing today

>>14515708
>I hope Elon liked having Tesla assets in China because those will probably be seized now.

I miss the 4chan emojis >.<

>>14515708
I wish.

>>14515708
>he thinks bugmen have the balls to do that

>>14515702
Problem is Musk came out and made a political statement and made it clear that terminals were being sent to Ukraine and access prioritized there for political reasons. He sided Starlink with Ukraine against Russia. If he simply let them go through the normal process and sold to them like a normal customer and set up access in a queue like any other minor country, that would have been neutral. Running to the media to virtue signal what a great guy he is because he's directing Starlink to help Ukraine made him and the company allies of Ukraine and enemies of Russia.
If Mozambique tomorrow decides it wants Starlink access, Musk isn't going to treat them the way he treated Ukraine. Starlink is a political entity now and will have to suffer the consequences of that decision long after the situation in Ukraine has been resolved.

>>14515751
lol the "consequences" of that decision are a massive boost in public awareness and positive sentiment for the product, and the ire of a country that will be mostly irrelevant or gone within five years

>>14515496
Starliner is a death trap, and will flu less than Dragon.

>>14515714
Based

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1529609521882095616
>Congratulations @BoeingSpace and @NASA!
Welcome to the club

>>14515776
the muskrat-in-chief has spoken
I kneel

>>14515757
Your country isn't the entire planet and your attitude is why most of the planet hates you.

>>14515751
>>14515801
Mad. No one here cares what some retard from a country with no space program thinks
>actually I’m russyan
Like I said

>>14515801
Although I find both sides of the war reprehensible that anon isn't wrong. Russia is a failing demographics slavic oil state that will be a glorified Chinese vassal for the rest of the century and the Chinese don't give a shit if the whities slaughter each other in Ukraine they just want to complete their takeover of Africa and wait for the rot of western institutions to collapse their opponents.

>>14515801
maybe they should git gud then

>be russian
>hack into Starlink servers
>run deorbit.exe
heh, nothing personnel

>>14515714
Used for what?

>>14515751
Russia also ceded its commercial space launch to SpaceX, being the only medium/heavy lift provider in the near term with spare capacity.

>>14515801
The only thing the United States has done wrong is not being self-serving enough.

>>14515844
Recovery operations

>>14515751
>political statement
Humanitarian statement.

>>14515751
And? Russia is still free to bar people within Russia from using Starlink. That's what was promised, that Starlink would obey local laws.
Starlink is not a political entity "now." It has been a political entity almost from its inception. When the US military said they wanted to use it to enhance their abilities to fight American adversaries it became a political entity.

>>14515875
>Russia is still free to bar people within Russia from using Starlink
Starlink has been banned in Russia for few years. They even instituted a fine for people using Starlinks within Russia.

>>14515886
Exactly.

>>14515705
It’s not so easy in krokketry

will rocockmok finosh building the nuclear generation ship?

>>14515580
But ukraine did give them the right to operate, spacex has not operated in places where the country didnt give the right to do so

>>14515652
it's more like trying to find a stable orbit around Kerbin that repeatedly encounters the Mun without getting yeeted into deep space by gravity shenanigans
NASA think they have a solution but they want to make sure it works by actually doing it with something that isn't a billion dollar laboratory

>>14515600
The self cleaning of low leo orbits hasnt come into the general consciuosness for some reason

>>14515690
They get to launch at all i stead of +2 year for a full new enviromental assesment (EA)
A finding of no significant impact (FONSI) would be the best case scenario, but even a mitigated FONSI as berger implies is basically the same
The mitigation is easily handled, like less lights at night and a shuttle bus for enployees instead of personal cars, some money to enviro groups

>>14515751
SpaceX reached out to Russia and Russia sided against them before any terminals were sent to the Ukraine

>>14515751
Russia would not allow starlink in their country anyway, it doesnt matter

>>14515962
it's started working itself into the minds of the trolls and shills who occasionally post the kessler nonsense in this general lol but they still don't see the contradiction

>>14515560
>the DoD's bloodlust
oh they have that but not for who you think

>>14515489
So does anyone wanna tell OP that this wasn't the first Starliner landing?

>>14515586
the USSF should build Black Horse

>>14516020
Welcome to sfg - newfagtopia edition

would it be economic to dual-use military weapon lasers to power thermal rockets for orbital launch?

>>14516041
You're not getting big lasers without them being military.

>>14516045
thats what im asking
can the military use this to launch a lot of rockets

>>14516048
I dunno, you got cash?

>>14516049
I got around three fiddy

>>14516048
yes but they won't

>>14516041
>>14516048
>can the military use this to launch a lot of rockets
That isn't powerful enough. The DoD has stopped all development of chemical lasers, a mobile laser system like that which could also get a rocket to orbit would be stupid to build because it would probably need like hundreds of MWh of energy storage, if not more, or giant engines larger than pic related as well as a generator to produce electricity.

>>14515489
Who cares once it's already on the ground nice and safe?
Fuck you nitpicking faggots

>>14516134
You can never escape the faulty valve ride.

>>14516134
Sweetie I won't let you or Boeing holocaust the local beetle population by gassing them with hydrazine.

>>14516134
Alright I'll take the bait. Blackpill me on SpaceX then.

>just run a martian base on sol-

>>14516133
>it would probably need like hundreds of MWh of energy storage
just use horizontal roggits
>We don't even have to build a permanent power plant to get the laser-launcher into operation. There are a lot of old rocket motors around, and they're very efficient at producing hot ionized gasses. Hot ionized gas is the power source for electricity extracted by magneto-hydro-dynamics, or MHD. MHD is outside the scope of this article, but basically a hot gas is fed down a tube wrapped with conducting coils, and electricity comes out. MHD systems are about as efficient as turbine systems for converting fuel to electricity, and they can burn hydrogen to reduce pollution.

>>14516226
just bring a brush and seal your panels properly

>>14515471
>According to a paper published last month, China needs to develop...a surveillance system with unprecedented scale and sensitivity to track and monitor every Starlink satellite.
yeah no shit. they should be doing what america is doing and creating tons of partnerships and space surveillance hardware. if you want to fight a war in space you'll need to be able to see the enemy. afaik china has very little space situational awareness capabilities and partnerships.

>>14515539
why destroy starlink when you can just destroy the launch sites and factories?

>>14515580
>China doesn't need to destroy every single Starlink satellite to put them out of business. They only have to destroy the reliability
might be right

>>14515489
>leaks
That's what happens when you don't fix your valves, but rather side step it by going "whatever, we'll just fuel it up later".

>>14515751
>If Mozambique tomorrow decides it wants Starlink access, Musk isn't going to treat them the way he treated Ukraine
Maybe if Mozambique got invaded tomorrow and the invader focused on taking down/over the infrastructure.
Take this shit to /pol/ where it actually belongs.

>>14516134
Big China National Space Administration Energy

Quick recap from earlier thread

>2 thrusters failed initially
>1 shutdown early
>next day, 2 more thrusters failed
>following those 4 main thrusters, they had to rely upon the side thrusters
>life support cooling system wasn't running nominally
>Starliner NDS for docking failed and had to be reset

What else has to be added

Dr. Z sounds like a fucking supervillan name.

>>14515499
Im adverse to missions that would only last a few months but there will be two jupiter system probes soon and they will get more info on Io

>>14516358
what about the hydrazine leak

which state is better for spaceflight, california or texas?

>>14516388
TX for launching CA for designing

>>14516388
Texas for testing, Florida for launching.

Ship 24 rollout

statische zundung wann?

>>14516388
The only thing going for california is historical inertia, texas could overtake it if cali politicians keep doing what they are doing
Or more likely, there will be multiple hubs and a lot of people just working remotely

>>14516423
>Or more likely, there will be multiple hubs and a lot of people just working remotely
every state should have a large spaceflight industry by now. any state that doesnt is going to fall far behind.

>>14516401
It's here

>ship 24 is going to launch in the next month or two
we're so close i can taste it

>>14516388
Alabama

when is booster static?

>>14515751
lol. The behavior of Russia's space agencies is directly responsible for Elon Musk choosing to start SpaceX.

>>14516488
based russia inadvertently saving spaceflight

>>14516413
>Beim später entwickelten Hauptstromverfahren wird das Prinzip des Nebenstromverfahrens dahingehend variiert, dass ein größerer Teil oder der gesamte Strom einer Treibstoffkomponente einen Gaserzeuger durchläuft und mit einem sehr kleinen Anteil der anderen Komponente unstöchiometrisch reagiert.
>Es entsteht so ein Heißgasstrom, welcher noch große Überschussmengen von nicht umgesetztem Treibstoff oder Oxidator enthält, der nach dem Antreiben der Arbeitsturbine der Turbopumpe direkt in die Hauptbrennkammer geleitet wird und dort an der regulären Verbrennungsreaktion zur Schuberzeugung mit den restlichen dort eingespritzten Komponenten teilnimmt.

>>14516358
even with oft-1 they spent months pretending the whole thing was mostly successful before admitting it was horribly botched and they were lucky to bring it down at all. i expect it'll be december or so before we know the whole story on oft-2.

>>14516225
Ok, SpaceX is FINISHED! It's over! We need another demo flight

Part 2 is live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP5k3ZzPf_0

>>14516359
That's because there was a supervillain named Doctor Zin, parodied as Docnrja4tor Z in Venture Bros.

>>14516562
*Doctor Z. I need to finish waking up, fuck

>>14516562
there was also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhSpTG0TDTI
and dr. zaius from planet of the apes

>elon contemplating suicide on the top of the tower
>suddenly remembers other people are there >makes joke about jumping off with hang glider
It's over

>>14516596
i hate it when i remember that other people exist but i've gotten better at not doing that

>>14516045
what about leading edge popcorn research?

>>14516488
Musk is an ambitious guy. He would've started SpaceX eventually. Glad he didn't delay. The US was without human space capabilities for too long.

>>14516538
Russians would just install a big fucking fan and open the hatch immediately.

>>14516358
>Starliner NDS for docking failed and had to be reset
>NDS
it would probably be better than what they actually used

>>14516388
>>14516455
Alabama for porking.

>>14515751
Didn't he also have to scramble satellites over ukraine? Russia isn't stupid, they would know it took intervention on elon's part either way

Also any government involved in censorship is eventually going to hate starlink. You seem to think sovereignty from an invader is political, so maybe you think freedom of information is political too.

>>14516359
Damn it Elon, bring me pictures of Mini Starships!

>How heavy does one version 2 weigh?

>>14516546
Why is there a blue cartoon animal being fucked

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1529641750037512203
>In regard to timing for Starliner's Crew Flight Test, NASA's Steve Stich says the goal is having the hardware ready by the end of 2022. However, he acknowledges, CFT could "certainly it could move into the first quarter of next year." (Me: 1Q-2Q of 2023 would be great).
here we go

>>14515534
>Nope, and expect all funding to be cut once Russia collapses in Ukraine
Except it seems to be the West that's collapsing into hyperinflation with sanctions designed to hasten OUR demise rather than Russia's

>>14516668
>OUR
nice try vlad

>>14516668
based alternate reality poster

>>14516668
Sure, our food will be very expensive by the end of the year, but at least we will have food unlike you vatniks.

>>14516662
lmao remember when Boeing tried to push ahead with a crew flight right after the first Starliner fucked up?

Reminder, Starlink now has ~400K + users and adds about 10K+ customers each week.

>>14516695
https://twitter.com/FedorovMykhailo/status/1529483923092299779

Team Space

>>14516633
>think freedom of information
Kek wtf. Freedom to be force fed the torrent of cultural excrement already rammed down our throats by the US on a daily basis you mean? How will the ROW survive without mandatory gayrainbow BLM eco tranny indoctrination!

>>14516713
I can't wait until your little third rate shadow of what was once a rival civilization collapses and we annex the whole far east. Maybe I'll have a cabin on the Amur with a Starlink receiver so I can work remotely in between fishing and taking pot shots at the Chinese across the river with my AR or my k98.

>>14516259
>Maybe if Mozambique got invaded tomorrow and the invader focused on taking down/over the infrastructure.
> Conveniently ignores all history and geopolitics before 2022

>>14516705
SpaceX should go to bed with Boeing

>>14516737
This isn't history and geopolitics general, is it?
Fuck off.

>https://old.reddit.com/r/SpaceForce/comments/uxuoy0/one_of_the_coolest_applications_made_by_supra/
space electronic warfare looks like shit

>>14516713
Says alot about you that you think internet means news media.
Begone vatnik, go learn a skill.

>>14516713
You should write to your nation's leader and ask him if you have permission to view 4chan and my posts

Does anyone remember which video it was where thunderfoot said Falcon 9 is a redstone rocket that runs off of methane?

>>14516847
Might we be going?

so which comes out first, orbital test flight or KSP2?

>>14516847
Can't wait for the BUSTED video where phil compared the whale-mouth door render from 2017 to the Starlink 2 dispenser hatch, then all his dumbass followers in the comments jerk him off.

>>14516863
Doesn't really matter, the expert modding community has already turned KSP1 into KSP2 on their own

>>14515513
Based? Based on what?

>>14516863
>thinks Elon can get FAA-approved after shitting on the dems
Sorry starship bros. Your ugly bird will stay a crane queen for now.

>>14515528
Time to send another cool solar sail experiment plunging back to Earth

>>14516546
crystal getting double teamed

s p a c e c o n s c i o u s n e s s

Friendly reminder that Artemis VIII will have NTP.

>>14516918
It was pretty cool seeing both docked to ISS together, everything else aside.

>>14516924
>a mission that is a long ways off will have something really cool and innovative
>no it won't get cancelled before any serious progress is made don't worry :)
you've done this song and dance too many times before NASA it's gotten beyond old

>>14516961
tbf they even say that timeline is a draft timeline so yea

>>14516827
Does anyone remember which tweet it was where
Musk says his car is in orbit around Mars

>>14516970
it's always a draft timeline. never solid plans

>>14516794
Well my nation is just about to ban hurty tweets, so Starlink might actually be useful if it helps me circumvent UK ISPs

https://www.vox.com/recode/23142055/boeing-spacex-starliner-rocket-crew-dragon

Vox thinks Starliner will lower the cost, don't tell them about the $90 million per seat lmao

>>14516980
or will Starlink collaborate and just assign you an IP from your country?

>>14516924
NTP will be the next oldspace eternal grift, mark my words
>large hydrogen tanks
>60+ years old technology heralded as cutting edge
>extreme amount of red tape preventing private industry from just making better one for 1/100th the cost
>nuclear physics is hard

>>14516974
does anyone remember how many breads they have eaten in their life

>>14516827
>>14516974
>>14516985
please sirs

>>14516984
>abundant amount of misinformation and mass hysteria with phrases such as "hundreds chernobyls a minute"

>>14516988
do not redeem

>>14516827
>redstone rocket
you mean this?

>>14516988
I will do you sir the needful

>>14516988
I saw your reddit post

>>14516999
you have to go back

>>14516994
now this is epic

Is Elon whistling part of God Save the Queen at 12:33 here? Wtf kek
https://youtu.be/XP5k3ZzPf_0

https://payloadspace.com/astroforge-raises-13m-seed-round/

Planetary Resources 2.0

At least they have a better name

>>14516984
>60+ years old technology

None of the current designs are from NERVA or Timberwolf's time.

>>14517022
>Timberwolf
timberwind

>>14517022
Timberwind

It's been a few months since I dipped my head into the spaceflight sphere, can I get a quick rundown on current events?

Wasn't Starship supposed to launch in December? What the fuck is going on?

>>14517027
Read #news on our discord.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9YdnzOf4NQ
/sfg/ btfo

>>14517033
Mars is a tsla stock pumping meme
Space colonization is very important long term though, and the Artemis Program is very promising, considering that it is a reasonable project being done by an actual space agency backed by a government

>>14517039
Here's your (you).

>>14517032
>ack!

>>14517039
no government has ever accomplished spaceflight

>>14517027
An anon had sex like a year ago

>>14516745
Boeing would give the crabs to spaceX and do a amber heard in the bed.

https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/uy83q2/comment/ia2pwil/

How can we prevent people like this from existing?

>>14517032
>our
kill yourself

>>14517041
>>14517061
lol

>>14517060
Do you browse reddit just to find comments that will make you angry?

>>14517066
I don't understand why anybody would go there.
>"Look, retards!"
Yeah I know, why do you think I'm not over there?

https://www.geekwire.com/2022/pentagon-boosts-two-seattle-ventures-working-on-nuclear-powered-prototypes-for-space-applications/

It's actually fucking happening this time

>>14517076
Ultra Safe is working on both this NEP and the DRACO NTP, Avalance looks like a scam company.

>>14517076
Ill believe whwn I see it, this is still at the seed funding phase

>>14517076
> Two Seattle companies have won Pentagon contracts to develop nuclear-powered prototypes for space applications, with orbital demonstrations set for 2027.

So optimistically sometime in the 2030s I guess

>>14517076
>small scale fission device
Oh that's pretty neat I—
>small scale fusion device
What??? They haven't even built a proper colossal scale net-positive fusion reactor and they are going to jump 30 steps and make viable portable fusion reactors for everyone? I want to believe but this reeks of overly optimistic bullshit. Too good to actually be truth

>>14515586
Virgin Orbit has plans to upgrade Cosmic Girl 747 so they must think there is a use case.

>>14517088
>>14517085
https://www.diu.mil/latest/powering-the-future-of-space-exploration-diu-launching-next-generation
Demo flights are in 2027

>seed funding
moron

>>14517076
Actually now that I think about it couldn't you do a non-breakeven fusion thruster?
That is to say, you supply 2 MW of electricity to your fusion chamber gas, the gas achieves fusion and releases 8 MW of heat. Would this not basically act like an electric plasma engine except give 5x higher isp than the same thruster operating with no fusion conditions? It's powered externally by a solar array or something but as long as literally any fusion happened wouldn't that release in energy contribute to thrust and therefore increase Isp, even if the fusion design could never generate enough electricity to power itself? Maybe that's what they're designing idk. Not a fusion rocket but a fusion booster electric propulsion system.

>>14517122
>non-breakeven fusion thruster?
I think thats what they are going for, for smallsat propulsion

>>14517122
>>14517127
>Another Seattle-based venture, Avalanche Energy, will receive backing from the Defense Innovation Unit to continue development of a compact fusion device known as Orbitron. The device, which is about the size of a lunchbox, would use electrostatic fields to trap ions in conjunction with a magnetron electron confinement system.

>The resulting fusion reaction would produce energetic particles for generating either heat or electricity, which can power a high-efficiency propulsion system.

https://www.avalanche.energy/#

The more fusion attempts the better imo, even if not the holy grail self-sustaining kind

>>14517134
>The resulting fusion reaction would produce energetic particles for generating either heat or electricity
Hmm sounds suspiciously like they're trying to sell this as a fusion reactor power source I dunno

>>14517139
I dunno either but we'll see I guess

>>14515489
Will we ever become multiplanetary?

If Avalanche turns out to be a scam the government lawyers will eat them alive.

>>14517022
>None of the current designs are from NERVA or Timberwolf's time.
Some of them could even be worse than NERVA if Berger is right about Ultra Safe using its radioisotope battery but at best they'll all be solid core because higher reactor temperatures would make more than the propellant melt.
>The propellant will be raised to a temperature somewhere between the melting and boiling point of the fluid. Candidates for the fluid include tungsten (boiling 6160K), osmium (boiling 5770K), rhenium (boiling 6170K), or tantalum (boiling 6370K).
>twice as hot as the combustion chamber temp of a chemical rocket engine
Good luck with that.

>>14517151
THE STARS ARE FALLING, ALL IS LOST
ABANDON UNIVERSE!

>>14516827
https://pastebin.com/w7qCxrv8
https://pastebin.com/c6ENUizr
https://pastebin.com/6x9tzGqQ

I fetched all thunderfoot captions that have generated captions and searched for redstone, falcon, and methane. Looks like it's not there.
Also pastebin censored one paste because he said "bugger" in one of them. What onions shit.

>>14517158
>Some of them could even be worse than NERVA if Berger is right about Ultra Safe using its radioisotope battery

The RTG NEP is a seperate program, see >>14517112

>>14517162
First of all that's nice that you would do that just for me babe, but second I'm 100% sure this video clip exists because I've gone and fetched it multiple times just because it's so perfect of a showcase how casually and completely wrong TF can be. Did you only use that tool on his mainn channel? It's possible the video is on one of his separate channels where he posts long videos where he boredly rants over himself drawing diagrams on a white photoshop canvas.

>>14517158
>The propellant will be raised to a temperature somewhere between the melting and boiling point of the fluid. Candidates for the fluid include tungsten (boiling 6160K), osmium (boiling 5770K), rhenium (boiling 6170K), or tantalum (boiling 6370K).
>twice as hot as the combustion chamber temp of a chemical rocket engine
excuse me what, where are you quoting from

>>14517151
That's so pretty

>>14517162
Pastebin got so cucked its unbelievable

>>14517172
If you mean VoiceOfThunder i added that. He probably mumbled something in his British accent and youtube captioning isn't the best.

>>14517169
Note that this isn't the same as an RTG but it's still a nuclear battery, the isotope used will have a very short half-life to provide a lot of energy without the mass of slower decaying isotopes like PU 238. It's still however retarded, a waste of money, and limited to just operation around Earth where solar already works very well.
>>14517175
The first one was my man Winchell Chung at Atomic Rockets talking about liquid and gas NTP. The second one was just me dunking on the idea.

>>14517218
Embercore is an RTG

>>14516827
"The Launch" was the title of the stream. It seems like he's deleted it. It was Crew demo or first actual crew launch.

>>14517033
Holy shit, that guy is obsessed with Musk and Hyperloop, like Thunderf00t 2.0.

>>14517224
Source? That doesn't make any sense, it would have all the downsides of electric propulsion but with a power source at least 100x heavier than solar. Why doesn't the DoD just set money on fire instead? Or they could fund Kilopower if they actually wanted something useful.

new berger kino
https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/05/nasas-verdict-on-starliner-a-great-vehicle-for-crew-transportation/
>NASA’s verdict on Starliner: “A great vehicle for crew transportation” "That’s really what this commercial crew program has been all about."
>Steve Stich has held a leadership position in NASA's commercial crew program to fly astronauts to the International Space Station for the last seven years. He said Starliner met "all of the objectives" for this test flight, and this likely clears NASA and Boeing to press ahead with a crew flight test.
>Asked about the performance of Starliner compared to Crew Dragon, Stich said that NASA and the private companies learned a lot from both of these test missions. He also noted that Crew Dragon had its own issues, necessitating redesigns to the vehicle's parachute and propulsion systems.
>Stich said NASA and Boeing are working toward having the hardware ready by the end of this year. However, he acknowledged, "Certainly it could move into the first quarter of next year." Expect NASA to name a crew for Starliner's first flight in the next few months and for the spacecraft to take flight again during the first half of next year, barring major issues with the flight's data.

>>14517227
Never mind me.
The Launch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeoKvs9MapQ
It's got several mentions of methane and all sorts of salt.

>>14517218
>>14517224
>>14517283
https://usnc.com/embercore/
>EmberCore is a nuclear chargeable ceramic (NCC) that produces heat and x-rays without the need for externally applied power. An EmberCore is composed of individual “embers” made from a family of commercially available, inert isotopes charged with neutrons in a nuclear reactor.

>>14516827
https://youtu.be/JeoKvs9MapQ
worth a watch, at least the first 15min. really shows the lack of depth of his knowledge

>>14517286
>

While being cautious and saying that NASA and Boeing need to review more data from the flight, Stich offered this pretty definitive conclusion about the vehicle and its test flight: "The Starliner is a great vehicle for crew transportation."
hmm...
what would be the consequence to space in general and spacex if the crew demo had a major malfunction and the crew died? would it affect polaris missions for example?

>>14517300
Embercore is tiny.

>>14517312
>and the crew died?
Unironically ogre

>>14517310
i cant do it
he shows his lack of knowledge in pretty much every single video already

>>14517315
I mean starliner crew demo failed, you think spacex would really be affected?
thats pretty fucked up
even when they fail, they would still have the final fuck you to spacex and delay them for years?

>>14517300
>USNC-Tech’s commercial radioisotope heater can be incorporated into space exploration equipment like landers and rovers to provide them with the ability to survive frigid conditions where conventional heat sources fail. This capability is critical to preventing devices and components from freezing during the 14-day lunar night, in permanently shadowed regions of the Moon, and in other places where solar and chemical-based power sources are inefficient or unusable.
https://usnc.com/usnc-tech-irradiation-agreement-with-reed-college/

>>14517300
>>14517327
That says nothing about the type of isotopes used which are needed to discern if it's an RTG or not. Here's the patent, it's hard to make sense of but they mention Thulium-170 being the active material and that has a half-life of just 130 days.

https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2021159043A1/en

>>14517331
yeah its unclear what they are planning, I'm skimming this now:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00295450.2021.1895662

>>14517324
I spent most of 2003 sequestered from civilization at a forest compound run by insane baptists, so I don't really know how long the Columbia disaster stayed in the news cycle before getting overshadowed by other shit and forgotten by the general public. I'm too young to remember Challenger but it seems like the news cycles were different in those days, I too wonder how the modern press would handle a loss of crew and how long it'd stay relevant on TV.

>>14516705
The flight test dummy can tweet?

>>14517300
What is that spacecraft supposed to be? NEP with the reactor up front?

>Assault rifles should at minimum require a special permit, where the recipient is extremely well vetted imo
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1529730751964532736
FAGGOT

Today I will remind them
https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/05/rocket-report-russia-plans-nuclear-space-tug-falcon-heavy-launch-delays/
>Russia says it will debut a "nuclear-powered space tug" in 2030 that will conduct a 50-month mission to the Moon, Venus, and then Jupiter. The first mission of Russia's nuclear-powered transport and energy module, Zeus, will last 50 months
>In December 2020, TASS continues, Russia's space corporation, Roscosmos, and design bureau Arsenal signed a contract for developing a preliminary project of a nuclear-powered space tug, Nuklon, to be used in deep space missions

>>14517368
Already the case?

>>14517151
Fosfor cluster bomb?

>>14517368
This makes sense though, is this really something controversial?

>>14517371
Imagine if they lose comms with that thing around Jupiter or something, just all those billions lost

>>14517371
Russia's NEP Jupiter spacecraft died with the Ukraine war sanctions.

>>14517381
Define "well vetted". Keep in mind how many words were redefined multiple times by politicians and government bureaucrats over the past couple of years and ask yourself if the same would happen with a similarly emotionally charged subject.

>>14517381
he implied the most common sporting rifle was an assault rifle

>>14517381
Most burgers can only think in extremes.
They trully believe that this is equal to "taking our guns away" even if this would not affect most of them.
But to keep it /sfg/ related, should guns be regulated on mars?

>>14517381
Criminals aren't really well known for complying with the law.

>>14517385
That's just politics in general.

>>14517385
"well vetted"
>have a job
>no mental problems
>not on meds
>no room temp IQ
Use these as a standard and half of the US has to give up it's guns.

>>14517371
>implying they have the money for this
>implying Russia could build a 1 MW Brayton cycle space reactor when they cannot even launch a module without fucking it up and nearly destroying everything
>implying this is a worthy endeavor when the end result would have LMAO 16 newtons of thrust despite being 20 t

>>14517387
>would not affect most of them.
Would it affect the number of shootings in any way if equivalents under a different name were still available? This is stupid campaign gamesmanship where you have to look like you're doing something even if you don't actually do anything productive. Also remember, that school was a 'Gun-Free Zone' so there was already a rule against what happened. Somehow it still happened.

>>14517385
>Define "well vetted"
Of the tip of the tong, I'd say:
>Not a convicted criminal
>Not clinically insane
>No drug abuse history

>>14517393
>no mental problems
Define "mental problems". Keep in mind that there was an attempt to classify anyone who didn't get the covid jab as being mentally unsound.

>>14517401
Failed attempt.

>>14517393
Voting in a way I disagree with is mental illness.

>>14517400
>No drug abuse history
Define abuse in this context.

>>14517387
The American left have repeatedly shown that if you give them an inch they will run as far as they can with it (while calling you a list of 'ists).

Spaceflight

>>14517401
Antivaxxers stray dangerously close paranoid schizophrenia.

>>14517405
Addicted/was addicted to stuff like heroin, meth, or other illegal hard drugs.

>>14517368
He also thinks you can buy plasma tvs at walmart. Stark reminders that elon is not on the ground consooming with us

>>14517387
Guns should be mandatory on Mars to keep the peace.

>>14517382
>lose comms
Ahh yes, the kino soviet type of failure.

>>14517417
Yeah, but who is going to stop the drunk texan geologist from firing of his gun in the paper thin living capsule on mars when he gets too drunk and the cute german biologist girl doesnt fancy him on the first international mission to mars?

>>14517413
Seems you got lost on your way to Reddit. Let me help you,
https://www.reddit.com/

>>14517428
>No counterargument

>>14517426
Make the walls thicker, it'll ricochet then the Sherrif can come collect him with a posse. If found guilty of endangering the settlement he can be hanged at noon by the townsfolk, and the next rowdy cowboy who wants to unholster his sidearm for nonsense will think twice about doing so.

>>14517431
I didn't make the post you responded nor do I care enough to debate your retarded hot takes, I'm just pointing out that every fiber of your being screams faggot Redditor. The fact that you had that image ready to go speaks volumes.

>>14515435
You can check the TLE's with spacetrak. It's like ~500km, they all will go down in a few years.
Here: https://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/supplemental/transporter-5.txt
If you want the cool viz: https://celestrak.com/cesium/orbit-viz.php?tle=/NORAD/elements/supplemental/transporter-5.txt

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1529846424392945664
>Just spoke with Firefly's Tom Markusic and will have an in-depth story early next week. He said that, if all goes well with the range and FAA licensing, the company will target July 17 for the second launch of its Alpha rocket from Vandenberg Space Force Base.
it's over, proonterbros...

>>14517444
I don't think that my takes are hot.

>>14517444
Trips confirm, anon's prepackaged takes are boring tripe.

>>14517448
what went wrong with the first did he say

>>14517448
Would have been hillarious if Astra beat them to orbit with their own engines.

>>14517431
>that file name
Jesus christ buddy.

>>14517431
>get called reddit so often you literally have this saved in just such an occasion
Lol. Lmao.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super-pressure_Balloon-borne_Imaging_Telescope_(SuperBIT)

>This level of precision, coupled with diffraction-limited optics as well as a large 0.5 degree field-of-view, enables SuperBIT to undertake astronomical surveys at a cadence and quality that rivals the Hubble Space Telescope.[9]

We don't need orbit where we're going

>>14517030
One word: Earthers

>>14517481
how is it gonna point itself precisely

>>14517481
The absolute state. All this just to avoid launching a mega-sized telescope in orbit. Fucking Earthers.

>>14517481
Awful craftsmanship by whoever put tape on that. They didn't even bother cutting the ends and instead just tore it off.
>telescope was made by leafs
wtf i love it now

>>14517481
that's nothing
take the balloonpill
starship could toss plenty of them up

>>14517426
Just patch the hole with marshmallow or duct tape

>>14517397
Momentuschads wagmi

by the time they finished JWST launching a monolithic 6m telescope is almost possible. Just think about that

>>14517539
How many kilo's of marshmallows and duct tape should be on the first mission to mars?

>>14517368
Define Assault
Define rifles
Define should
Define at
Define minimum
Define require
Define a
Define special
Define permit
Define ,
Define where
Define the
Define recipient
Define is
Define extremely
Define well
Define vetted
Define imo

>>14517550
Musk should instead just shut up about subjects he has no idea about. Anyone that suggests that rifles should be regulated before handguns is either ignorant or a bad actor.

all of you go back

>>14517560
>your post

>>14515776
this would have been funnier if tweeted by Bezos

>that guy who complains about off topic posts by spamming the thread with off topic posts while contributing nothing of value.
Yikes & cringe.

>>14517573
reminding poltards that they're cocksucking faggots that have nothing to do in this thread has value

>>14517546
A 28 gram serving of 4 marshmallows contains about 90 calories.

Assuming a crew of 4 Americans, 16000 calories per day mean for a 1000 day journey you'd need about 4,978kg of marshmallows (marsmallows?).

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-supports-small-business-research-to-power-future-exploration
>This maturation of the VASIMR® engine will move it closer to commercialization. The VASIMR® engine is a high-power electric propulsion system approaching TRL 5. Past prototypes have exceeded many key performance parameters detailed in the National Academies' "Space Nuclear Propulsion for Human Mars Exploration" 2021 report and are anticipated to exceed them all. The VX-200 VASIMR® prototype operated at 200 kW of electrical power at 72% efficiency and a specific impulse of 4,900 seconds. VASIMR® engines can use many propellants including argon and krypton. The TC-1Q first flight unit is expected to operate at 150 kW electrical power, readily be clustered to exceed 1 MW, have a specific mass of 4 kg/kWe, and have an operation lifetime of 10 years.

>>14517500
It has reaction wheels like a space telescope and a fast steering mirror to compensate for jitter.

>>14517519
Inflatable apertures are only useful for far infrared, they're not comparable. Even with the proposed scale they would still have worse resolution than superBIT because of the very long wavelengths.

>>14517582
>16000 calories per day
Well, one on of them will be trans, one of them african american, one a woman, one white cis male.
So those numbers sound correct.

>>14517583
lol

>>14517481
my threats caused this

>>14517607
That 200kW engine made about 6 N of thrust, almost 1.5 lb which is laughable compared to chemical or NTP engines but a powerhouse for electric propulsion.

Anything happening? Came back to the thread after a week.

>>14517631
Starliner unfortunately had a successful test and Berger's thinking This is the month for the FAA getting off its ass on the environmental review.

>>14517628
Where does the electricity come from

VASIMR got some NASA money this year. It looks like it's about improving coupler efficiency to make the kWe/N figure less gay.

https://sbir.nasa.gov/SBIR/abstracts/22/sbir/phase1/SBIR-22-1-Z10.04-2369.html

>>14517641
100-200kW is totally doable with ROSAs if you don't go past Mars.

>>14517641
Solar or nuclear fission or nuclear radioisotope.

I hate when people say there’s no sound in space. There literally is sound in space

>>14517681
Sending your dilator into orbit doesn't count, anon.

>>14517681
Someone just watched the Hullo video but didn't understand what was being said.

>>14517681
retard mode activate

>>14515499
looks like shit and probably smells bad too

>>14517583
>NASA selected Phase I proposals to receive funding by judging their technical merit and commercial potential. Based on their progress during Phase I, companies may submit proposals for $850,000 in Phase II funding to develop a prototype, as well as subsequent SBIR/STTR Post Phase II opportunities.

NASA believes, so I will believe too, go Vasimirr

>>14517741
>judging their technical merit and commercial potential
REEEE decolonize contracting

>>14517743
>Nearly 25% of the selected companies are women-owned, veteran-owned, disadvantaged, and/or HUBzone small businesses. For example, D2K Technologies, a women- and minority-owned small business based in Oceanside, California,

>“Finding and building a diverse community of entrepreneurs is a central part of our program’s outreach, and the efforts to reach them can start even before Phase I,” said Gynelle Steele, deputy program executive for NASA's SBIR/STTR program at NASA Headquarters in Washington. “For example, working in partnership with NASA’s Minority University Research and Education Project, we started offering M-STTR planning grants last year, which incentivized partnerships between MSIs and small businesses and prepared them to submit a STTR Phase I proposal in 2022.”

>M-STTR awardee Oakwood University, a historically Black university based in Huntsville, Alabama, will continue working alongside SSS Optical Technologies, a small business also based in Huntsville, using their Phase I award to develop a new type of coating for photovoltaic (PV

>>14517583
>once upon a time hoping for meme concepts like Vasimr to mature was the only hope to see a Mars mission in your lifetime
the current timeline isn't all too bad bros

>>14517583
where is your greentext from

>>14517583
Absolutely revolting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myYs4DCCZts

>>14517546
Like forty

>>14516956
I don't think Elon ever had a problem with Boeing as a competing aerospace contractor, he only ever had a problem with the cost plus bullshit that rewarded failure and corruption rather than success and delivery conditional to accomplished milestones. So his congratulations here, ultimately makes sense, because at the end of the day Starliner did finally limp its way to its milestone success.

>>14517550
No Stg 44s mmkay

>>14517756
Read the link in the text where it talks about VASIMR, or >>14517650

>>14517822

Potential NASA Applications (Limit 1500 characters, approximately 150 words):

Cislunar cargo transfer, space debris removal, Mars mission (cargo, crew), deep space uncrewed missions, asteroid mining/deflection

neat

>>14517750
NASA's reference design for a NEP/chemical hybrid Mars transfer vehicle would use pods of VASIMR.

So the Gaterway will have some use after all, especially during the many months that its uncrewed

>>14517344
>I spent most of 2003 sequestered from civilization at a forest compound run by insane baptists,
Storytime?

>>14517371
They couldn’t have done this before the war. No one took it seriously and no one should. Even if they did actually start on it and work on it in earnest it would be at minimum 10 years late and likely actually 20, if it worked AT ALL.

its our time balloonbros

Solar sailor wen?

>>14517400
This is literally the requirements in Texas for getting a concealed carry license
>nothing on your record about mental health issues (Note: this doesn’t seem to catch anyone but actual schizophrenics in state care, I’ve known people who attempted suicide and were in involuntary stay psych wards who passed)
>no class B misdemeanour in last 5 years, no felonies period
>take a class
>prove you can fire a gun without killing yourself

>>14517843
finaly

>>14517843
Who's birthday party are they preparing for? Ballast Bill?

>>14517827
Those are Hall thrusters. VASIMR looks like a rocket engine (without the thrust lmao) not a pancake.

>>14517870
...

>>14517845
It doesn't count unless a judge has ordered you detained against your will. Emergency psych holds don't magically strip you of rights, you need to be a proven shithead.

t. went from psych ward emergency hold to responsible gun owner over the course of ten years

>>14517870
>(without the thrust lmao)
better than an Ion engine, also engines at the back

>>14517790
Ironically much of this is really just Zubrin shitting on nuclear that isn't the NSWR, VASIMR itself is not an exceptionally bad design. I believe spoke against the '39 day Mars transfer' claimed by Chang-Díaz, and said he would rather a 6 month transfer with a greater payload.
>The necessary 200 megawatt reactor "with a power-to-mass density of 1,000 watts per kilogram" (Díaz quote) would require extremely efficient radiators to avoid the need for "football-field sized radiators" (Zubrin quote)

>>14517877
That's the reactor. These are the engines.

This seems like it could be interesting. Not sure how viable their business strategy is in the short term, but it seems like it's worth a try. At very least, they seem to be cognizant of the fact that Starship will likely change everything in the launch market and are planning with that in mind.
https://www.space.com/asteroid-mining-startup-astroforge-2023-launch

>>14517833
That's actually pretty cool and could poke some holes in the arguments of Gateway's critics if NASA goes ahead with that. It could also suggest that Gateway is planned to be operational for at least as long as the ISS or perhaps even longer, if there's talk of it supporting interplanetary missions.

>>14517845
They're also among (or at least similar to) the requirements for passing a background check to buy a gun in general throughout the entire US. I get the impression that most gun control advocates have never filled out a 4473 Form in their lives or even know it exists in the first place. Seems like Musk probably hasn't, either.

>>14517882
No those are oversized 2x5 Lego plates

>>14517885
>AstroForge is taking a different tack. The startup doesn't see asteroid water as a particularly promising initial target, given that there's currently no real market for in-space propellant depots. In addition, SpaceX's huge Starship vehicle will be able to loft huge amounts of water to orbit quite cheaply when it comes online, reducing the demand for water extracted in space, Gialich said.

Based and Starship capabilities pilled

Go to /k/ or /pol/ if you want to talk bout something gay like earther gun control and disarmament. Sfg is all about guns: guns in space, guns in spaceflight, guns on colonies like Mars, guns in spaceports, guns for people to shoot down SLS.

>>14517885
ikr I like the idea of Gateway being more flexible in terms of orbits than ISS which is just sitting at a single inclination forever.

Gateway should experiment with more than just NRHO, though seems like they picked NRHO as the default orbit for now especially for lunar South Pole missions, and having comms throughout the orbital period etc, put that SEP engine to use especially with regular refueling

>>14517885
>Seems like Musk probably hasn't, either.
Musk definitely owns a handgun.

>>14517902
Part of my post got lost but you can infer the gist of it, hope they haven't decided for some weird NASA reason to stay permanently only in NRHO

>>14516430
why the fuck did they not finish the tiling before rolling it out

>watch new everyday astronaut video
>literally nothing of value came out of the video
??????

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-to-pick-next-generation-spacesuits-for-moonwalking-spacewalking
>NASA will announce at 2 p.m. EDT (1 p.m. CDT) Wednesday, June 1, the company, or companies, selected to move forward in developing the next generation of spacesuits for Artemis missions at the Moon and the International Space Station during an event at the agency’s Johnson Space Center in Houston.
oh shit here we go

>>14517916
Yeah next one should be better though

>>14517833
Still a tollbooth

>>14517917
HAPPENING
fuck yeah

>>14517919
You don't have to use it

>>14517833
gateway is turning into less of a space station and more of a space ship

>>14517917
What about xeemu? Or is this gonna be an additional spacesuit which is based, we should have redundancy in spacesuits

>>14517924
or the opposite >>14517902
this infographics more recent, it almost sounds like they are locking themselves into the orbit

The press release seems to pretend it doesn't exist, so it might be dead

>>14517933
meant for >>14517927

>>14517917
I don't see why SpaceX wouldn't be selected. They have a flight-certified pressure suit and are already deep in development of an EVA derivative.

>>14517939
They will never select spacex on their own so it’ll probably be spex and some oldspace grog company

>>14517939
Hopefully its not as ugly as their IVA suit

function > form when it comes to spaceflight imo

I wonder if anyone can really surpass the A7L though, just the absolute GOAT.

This is a month of habbenings and it only seems to be getting more interesting
Is esefgee alive?

>>14517950
Everything interesting in spaceflight seems to cluster around Summer

>>14517916
>Estronaut trying to get soundbites about Elon's feelings on the entire program
>Elon wasn't listening at all and just goes into his practiced holy grail speech
>Elon starts talking about the GSE tanks
>Estronaut doesn't pick up on it
>asks a completely different question about public perception
>Elon wasn't listening AGAIN and goes off on a tangent about planet killing meteors
Autism is one hell of a drug. Kinda painful
to listen to that part.

>>14517928
Since it's still planned to have a dedicated refueling module (ESPRIT), assuming regular Dragon XL visits I don't see why they couldn't experiment with different orbits once they've figured out the basics of stationkeeping at NRHO. Maybe it's one of those things where NASA will try it later on if the systems perform well for the main mission, like what's happened with Ingenuity and some of the Mars rovers.

>>14517958
Cringed so hard at that entire segment from the launch tower, godamn.

>>14517950
FAA approval soon

>>14517960
Yeah true, Gateway is kinda still an evolving concept which is exciting.

>balloon release scrubbed

Can't get it up (to 40km)

>>14517924
we are deconstructing the ship/station binary, chuds seething

>>14517902
>>14517885
As a platform for SEP it's great, perhaps ignoring the cost. NRHO would increase the delta-v required to reach the Lunar surface and back by ~1400 m/s from what I can tell. It also enables SLS/Orion when LEO or GTO should be the staging point for human Artemis missions and Dragon could then perform the crew transfer into a fueled Starship.

>>14517950
>Is esefgee alive?
We're so back bros

I hate Earthers so much it's unreal.

>>14515801
>Your country isn't the entire planet
Source?

>>14517870
They are notional 100kW electric propulsion, the 3 chemical engines are fictional methalox RL10.

>>14517950
tons of launches coming up as well, CAPSTONE, TROPICS, firefly launch 2 and so on

Is the Jupiter III one of the most underrated post-shuttle concepts that got memoryholed?

Unlike the SLS, not only would there be almost no need to have money spent on developing new hardware, it would allow for payloads in the 200 metric ton range (possibly including manned nuclear thermal transfer vehicles!)

You've got:

>stock Shuttle external tank (x2)
>stock Shuttle solid boosters (x4)
>stock Saturn V 2nd and 3rd stages

Only the payload fairing would need to be designed from scratch, which aside from its projected size would be nothing special

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-xiWn4n8JE

>>14518003
Terran 1 is supposed to launch at the end of June.

>>14518004
I don't see any hardware for a Jupiter III, except that they are going to put two external tanks, two SRBs, and a Saturn V 2nd and 3rd stage together. It's not that easy in rocketry.

I’ll NEVER forgot when a boy in my high school chemistry class told me “You’ll never work at NASA” and laughed at me. That was the day I decided to become an engineer.

>>14518006
And hard R got launch contracts for amazons constellation

>>14518019
Inspiring :) I love strong women in STEAM

>>14518017
>55 Cancri e
>Average Temperature: >1700°C
comfy

>>14517681
It's true. I've heard astronauts talking to each other in those fake ISS videos.

>>14518026
that's in air dumbass

Feel like pure shit just want them back

>>14518021
We are entering a new golden age for space exploration. Life is good.

>>14518019
i'll never forget when I spilled baked beans all over my shirt while I was at the movies watching cars 2 and a black teenager stood up and yelled "this nigga eating beans!" and everyone laughed at me.

>>14518051
did you apologize?

>>14518051
kek

>The head of the state corporation Roscosmos, Dmitry Rogozin, said that the scientific and technical council of Roscosmos decided to make the new Russian orbital station automatic. “The station will be able to observe the entire planet. We decided that the station will be automatic, the participation of the crew will be in the delivery and installation of the payload, testing of promising space systems, repair and replacement of spacecraft blocks.

>>14518062
HOLY COPE AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA

>>14518019
Would

>>14518062
Kek cubestation confirmed. University of pheonix tier

>>14518019
Honestly, she seems like she's make a good gf