/sci/ - Science & Math

>>14512151
>heresy
lol'd

>>14512151
God Bless Murrika.
Kanye West president yet?

I stopped caring about society at large years ago. The idiots can throw themselves all the idiot parties they want to

Look at old video of scientists speaking, from fifty years ago, and then compare them to the stammering mush-mouths of today.
Literacy and rhetoric were once valued by a 'Murikan institutions of science, but not any more.
Perhaps it is a result of the widening acceptance of stupidity as "normal" among a 'Murikans?

What they intentionally left out is that science skepticism is also growing rapidly with independents. Wonder why they'd leave that fact out and only mention Republicans?

>>14512151
This is what happens when you choose to use "science" as a buzzword to keep a perceived state of "pandemic emergency" going for 2+ years. Government advisors got it all wrong with their complicated cognitive psychology exploits to "nudge" people into doing what they wanted... It was as simple as saying that whatever law or measure you wish to put in place, no matter how senseless or downright harmful it is, is called for by "science".

>>14512151
>By SETH BORENSTEIN and HANNAH FINGERHUT, Associated Press

Why would anyone listen to someone named Boring-Steen and Finger-Hut? kek

>>14512255
Do u think a society who`s dedicated to n.... would understand those scientists?
Nuh-uh that`s why they use stars to approach the public

>>14512151
They're starting to notice our nonstop lies and avalanching levels of bullshit... for some reason.

>>14512151
the leftist lunatic clown world narrative literally caused this

>>14512151
Its the fault of scientists who are either apathetic about politics or who think their vocation places them above it.
Take any aspect of human accomplishment and eventually thugs, manipulators, and the power hungry will seek to control it for their own ends. The failure of science has been to ignore this. Had this not been the case then today the world would be run by a technocracy of scientists who enforce the highest levels of integrity and rigor within their own community. We would be sending manned missions to Jupiter's moons by now. Pollution, consumer waste, war, and environmental degradation would have been reduced to insignificant problems or else only exist as chapters in a history text book. The biggest tragedy is that for a while it looked like we were getting there. Now it will never happen.

>>14512151
>Americans now think science is fake & gay

I wonder why?

>>14512151
>“We are living at a time when people would rather put urine or cleaning chemicals in their body than scientifically vetted vaccines,” University of Georgia meteorology professor Marshall Shepherd told the AP in an email. “That is a clear convergence of fear, lack of critical thinking, confirmation bias and political tribalism.”
A pretty good example of why the public is growing a distrust for scientists. They put out bad information, data proves it's bad information, and then they insult the public for not believing it anyway.

>>14512775
That's a Professor of Meteorology denigrating people who have different opinions on medical matters than he does while not seeing that he is the very tribal being he complains about. He proved his own point but not in the way he thought he did.

>>14512505
The US doesn't have any leftist political parties. Liberals are not leftists. Liberals and conservatives are both rightists that support capitalism and imperialism. The US has been fighting leftism within and outside for more than a century if not more if you consider the Labor Wars. So how could it have any major leftist parties or movements unless it was incompetent? Occupy Wall Street was the last movement with legitimate leftist elements that grew out of the Great Recession and even that was quickly sabotaged, squashed, and subverted.

>people's trust in our institutions are so low that they'd sooner believe a hobo smearing shit on the wall
>this is their fault!

>>14512151
>>“We are living at a time when people would rather put urine or cleaning chemicals in their body than scientifically vetted vaccines,” University of Georgia meteorology professor Marshall Shepherd told the AP in an email.


"Why don't the proles trust us anymore??" whined the Expert™ as he regurgitates the "Trump told everyone to drink bleach" lie for the 5,000th time.

>>14512808
The US populist "right" is anti-war, anti-censorship, anti-capitalist, and anti-racism (very different from "antiracist"). The populist left was too, but they literally don't exist anymore as a political faction.

Not trusting science is how science is done.

>>14512505
Yes, it wasn't the GOP spending the last 60 years fearmongering about muh commies in the schools that made half of the population distrust the education system and educated people.

>>14512151
>“We are living at a time when people would rather put urine or cleaning chemicals in their body than scientifically vetted vaccines,”
I like how the acedemoid brainlet regurgitates political strawman arguments and then immediately goes on to blame "lack of critical thinking, confirmation bias and political tribalism".

>>14512938
> Picture of Fox News on his TV
Could you be anymore of a Boomer? Educate your self. now. You are shockingly ignorant.

>>14513041
>Could you be anymore of a Boomer? Educate your self. now. You are shockingly ignorant.
gb2tiktok, zoombot.

>>14512151
Science has been corrupted by the special interests of political and business groups. It’s not surprising to me at all.

>>14512280
>Government advisors got it all wrong with their complicated cognitive psychology exploits to "nudge" people into doing what they wanted
More on point than entirety of /pol/

>>14512151
>is the vaccine fake and gay?
>republicans: yes democrats: no
>STUDIES SHOW THAT REPUBLICANS ARE ANTI-SCIENCE

>>14512151
that doesn't say americans don't trust science. that says republicans. they are not americans. they aren't human.

>>14512151

>>14513333
quads of truth

>>14512264
Independents mainly vote Republican, they just call themselves something else.

>>14513997

>>14512994
Not really no. Scientists don't just cherrypick the data that they want to believe and deny everything else.

>>14514004
The people paying the scientists do.

I unironically stopped believing in science a couple months after ICP released Miracles. I was in it for the memes at first but after a few watches of the music videos it clicked and I've been happier since.

>>14512151
WTF I love science now, it's the new contrarian stance.

>>14514006
Proof?

>>14513999
And your point? People who trust what they read on Facebook over the news and what scientists say are still idiots.

>>14514006
Yeah, they won't let the proof of flat Earth get published.

>>14514047
Billionaires are the biggest flat earthers, actually.

>>14514049
I know, yet the gatekeepers still won't let the truth be heard, no matter how much money Elon Musk throws at them. It's horrific.

>>14514055
Elon Musk isn't a flat earther, nor is he in the top 10 of richest billionaires/trillionaires.

I don't believe in Jesus and I don't believe in science.

>>14514065
Whatever, I don't believe in accuracy.

>Miss Fingerhut
Is this a real name, and is she a lesbian?

>>14514065
well if all the world's greediest most successful thieves say that the earth isn't flat then you just gotta trust it. why would a billionaire ever lie? billionaires are infallible

>>14514120
You're gonna get a kick out of this quote.

>>14513518
Unattributed excess deaths are twice as numerous during the pandemic period as that of deaths WITH covid. Probably just magical fairy dust causing them.

>>14514122
you might be misinterpreting the quote, read it again while keeping in mind that the ruling class has used astrobabble and other expensively feigned superior knowledge and intelligence as means of controlling and influencing the general public since before the dawn of recorded human history. his peers were the ones who financed the construction of the first wave of large institutional astronomical observatories.

>>14514354
>you might be misinterpreting the quote,
>then completely misinterprets the quote
kek

>>14513020
>fearmongering about muh commies
Clearly they didn't go too far enough.

>>14512469
This picture is grotesque I hate it fuck you

>>14512151
>faith in science

>>14512151
>cleaning chemicals
oh like dihydrogen monoxide?

>>14512808
>The US doesn't have any leftist political parties.
Antifa supports the democrats so it does

>>14514047
correct
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/94fi9r/flat_earth_phd_thesis_proofs_reasons_for_deception/

leftist faggots have done to science what they did to art

"everything is art!"
"everything is science!"

they have been politicizing the shit out of it and making people eat lies under the label of "science" for their political power

>>14512151
>Democrats trust in science
What? lol
We're reaching levels of propaganda I never deemed possible.

>>14512151
>Americans say they have “a great deal” of belief in the scientific establishment
Well that's a huge fucking difference to what the headline claims. Fuck this gay earth. I'm out.

>>14512151
Bravo american commies, you fucking retards made basedence so much of a meme with your shitty propaganda on the news now everyone thinks it's kike shit. God I fucking hate amerisharts

Nuke social and health science departments. Then watch how the world improves as closet neonazis in the STEM programs take over replacing medicine with eugenics

Here's what happened. Politicians take something that is trusted among the general populace and intrumebtalize it for their careers.
>you don't support X if you vote Y!!
The latest addition to this list of things is science. That's why people develop a mistrust. Politicians slap it on everything.

>>14512808
>the least delusional commie in the US

>>14512151
>HANNAH FINGERHUT
I'd finger her hut, if you get what I mean

>>14515189
You'd get finger herpes.

>>14515043
>Here's what happened. Politicians take something that is trusted among the general populace and intrumebtalize it for their careers.
>>you don't support X if you vote Y!!
>The latest addition to this list of things is science. That's why people develop a mistrust. Politicians slap it on everything.

Politicians and the media are the #1 problem with the world today.

>>14514112
>Fingerhut
Over here Fingerhut is a poisonous plant. So yes.

>>14513997
>Independents mainly vote Republican
Do they vote? Myself never participated on an election were NPCs have the majority.

>>14515029
They have a version of science also called science where everything is wrong ie: chromosomes doesn't real, race is a social construct, global warming is a thing, etc.

>>14515255
Over here it's a company that sells overprices crap to people with poor credit.

>>14514354
>astrolabes
this is some next level retard shit. He meant exactly what he said

>>14515029
Democrats think Rick & Morty are science. They love Bill Nye and Black Science Man. Therefore, they think of themselves as the "Party of Science".

>>14512170
Most "science" today is Idiocracy level garbage.

The whole decline started with the climate-change scams in the 1970s

>>14512808
Interesting. In that case, can you tell me of rightist parties in your country that advocate for hormone blockers and HRT for children, reparations for minority groups, abolishing institutions designed to halt illegal immigration, and immediately eliminating gas powered vehicles?

Seeing that's what American liberals advocate for here, it should be no problem for you to provide examples of rightists demanding the same things.

>>14515255
>>14515380
over here it just sounds like a funny way of saying lesbian. maybe a chain restaurant style of lesbian, where you go to get a familiar kind of gay sex.

>>14512280
This, "science" has become a monster tranny, and people are rightfully skeptical now.

>lie for decades to pad your resume
>take bribes from companies for decades
>accept pressure from politicians for decades
>give in to every HR person and social justice idiot for decades without any fight
>be stupid, spineless, worthless for decades
>people stop believing you
surprised pikachu face

>>14510093

>>14512151
Scientifically speaking, this behavior is explained by the fact that people who vote Republican are racists/mysoginists and people that have dark traits in genereal, who are often found to be more masculine than their counterparts.

>>14515490
Sure, but what about the iphone? Where would you be without it and all the Android clones of it? Science is still giving back to the world except now it gives back directly. Instead of it being the domain of well connected white men in white trench coats, science has been democratized, giving the fruits of science to all. How can you be against that, unless you're one of those white males who wanted to keep the power of science to themselves?

>le Science^tm monolith meme
I really hate americans

>>14515218
Full ack. Everything that was once good was destroyed by at least one of them. Education, journalism, privacy, truth.

>>14515434
Earlier than that. "Science" recommending to smoke and taking sugar in the 60s. And the public still gives these fuckers money.

Because these fucking cocksuckers will tell us lies to our face, admit they were lies, and expect us to be grateful.
Remember the beginning of COVID? "Two more weeks to flatten the curve." And "mask are ineffective, just wash your hands to stay safe.".

When science confirms my beliefs, it's real, when it doesn't, it's not.

>>14515803
I agree, but your example is dumb. It did work.

>>14512151
that's pretty good news
less competition for my kids for the well-paying and interesting jobs when they grow up
keep up being moronic sacks of shit anons :)

>>14515874
>i come to 4chan to defend the standard issue MSM soience narrative from criticism

>>14512954
All of this is made up and you don't give a single shit about racism. You're just lying/virtue signaling like a lying woman.
The US populist right is 100% pro-capitalism, is pro-anti-racist censorship and pro-anti-dickheadedness censorship, and is 100% pro-military industrial complex and pro-engagement when they aren't gaslighting the libs with feigned pacifistic sympathies.

Righties get all their argument tactics from shitty, disingenuous women.

>>14515903
Sorry pal, /sci/ isn't the board to be a contrarian on. Perhaps one of the red boards will interest you.

>>14512954
>All of this is made up and you don't give a single shit about racism. You're just lying/virtue signaling like a lying woman.

The US populist right is 100% pro-capitalism, is anti-anti-racist censorship and anti-anti-being a dickhead censorship, is 100% pro-military industrial complex and is pro-"military response as a 1st option"- that is when they aren't gaslighting the libs with feigned pacifistic sympathies.

>Righties get all their argument tactics from shitty, disingenuous women.

>>14514278
>so called excess deaths are so small nobody even notices
Yup, just another cope.

>>14515859
what did work?

>>14515957
Fuck, I misread. I thought you wrote "masks work". Because they do. But yeah, you're pretty much right. The WHO said
>there is no evidence to believe masks help
which is the copist version of
>masks don't work
Sorry, I agree.

>>14512624
1. Bill Nye never said that. The only thing he did was make a distinction between the words gender and sex- the distinguishing factor of gender being that it's socially contrived, while "sex" is a biological classification based on the hormonal expression of primary and secondary sexual characteristics and skeletal morphology.

2. So you're telling me all it takes is some media-manufactured, twitter bot-driven, overblown, fake and literally gay internet outrage-crack talking points for you to double down on deciding to spend every day being measurably more retarded than the last? Pathetic.

>>14516064
>Bill Nye never said that
https://youtube.com/watch?v=aQDBNJ3mPa0
>science says we're all on a spectrum
>some people just want sex with everything amirite gais
>applause

>>14512151
When the new version of economics (infinite growth on a finite planet) started masquerading as "science" and that's all the politicians and billionaires follow, it doesn't really matter what regular people think. And who can blame for being skeptical when those at the top are so obviously full of shit?

>>14516208
I la k the proper vocabulary to express the level of cringe in that video. He's seriously worse than pop-sci. No wonder people start mistrusting the science label when this blatant mockery of a documentary just claims "it's science bro" and commands you to just take everything said for a fact. Yeah, we need a continuous number of bathrooms. That's science. Wtf.

>>14516064
Not only did Nye say that, he also says scientists are just now discovering that there are intersex people. And he makes it seem like that happens all the time. Your penis looks a bit different from the norm? You're intersex. Your clitoris larger than the norm? You're not a woman anymore, but somewhere more towards male. That's literally what he's saying.

>>14512151
>Science is increasingly depicted by the media to support the fact a man can become a woman by removing penis.
>People increasing distrust science for no particular reason at all, says Science™

>>14515952
15 million excess deaths, which is about twice the number "with" covid. But thanks for demonstrating exactly what the thread is about: people so wrapped up in defending their political ideology that they have to ignore reality and cover it up with a fake patina of science, which erodes the reputation of actual science.

It started with the right pushing climate change denialism to simp for oil companies.

>>14515529
>racists r bad
>"lives nowhere near niggers"
Ok fag

>>14516004
so the science says "masks dont work"?

>>14516977
>>14516004
Fuck, I misread, i didn't know what copist meant

>>14513518
>haha whoops we counted deaths 'with' covid as deaths 'from' covid
>haha whoops we paid every hospital in the country fed dollars to inflate the numbers
>40% increase in deaths? It must just be the flu

>>14514004
Indeed these are the scientism types the general public believe to be scientists.

>>14512151
>mfw people are waking up that what they’re doing is nothing but a science worship which has been corrupted by evil corporation/media//government goals for the demise of people unlike catholicism which only serves to help the people
Christianbros we win again

>>14517894

>>14516960
Which was a good reason for the left to completely abandon science for IFLS! worship?

>>14514006
>The people paying the scientists do.
Stop reading advertisements and Jewish ``science'' journals and start reading preprints off *xiv. Forget about peer review and citations and just look at how often papers come to the same or a similar enough conclusion.
Suddenly science aligns with reality.

>>14516960
>climate change denialism to simp for oil companies.
Oil companies push the "climate change", because it causes major increases in prices, so more profits for oil companies.

>>14512151
Why do these fucking retards take it so personally when someone doesn't want the vaccine? I don't get it

>>14518123
>You're stopping us from getting back to normal!
>Don't be scared of a little needle! I want to go to the bar and have sex with random strangers but I can't until you get the injection.
Their lives were held hostage by the government and they were told it was due to people refusing the injections. Normies wanted their normie lives back and were angry at those who were allegedly standing in the way.

>>14517912
Pope Francis actually did say getting the Mark of the Beast is a moral obligation. I for one am just not getting it (the vaccine!) and the Whore of Babylon can kindly go fuck himself.

>>14518123
They sided with what they thought was going to be the winning side: $cience. $cience is their religion, Fauci is their God, and vaccination is their sacrament. As science failed over and over again to science us out of the pandemic, in order to save face they grew more and more committed to going down with the ship, believing that covid would be eradicated any day now because science is infallible.

>>14518130
Will boys like this grow up to hate their mother?

>>14518151
>Will boys like this grow up
no

>>14518123
>Why do these fucking retards take it so personally when someone doesn't want the vaccine? I don't get it

Either one of two possibilites.

1. They work for the corporations/government getting all that sweet taxpayer/pharma money and have a financial incentive to push the "vaccines".

2. There is something in those vaccines that they are not telling people, but want EVERYONE they want to control. to have in their bodies.

>>14512264
Because 70%+ of independents are right wing lolbertarians

>>14512808
>The US doesn't have any leftist political parties
True.
>Occupy Wall Street was the last movement with legitimate leftist elements
Not true. BLM and ANTIFA are overwhelmingly led by communists and anarchists.

>>14512151
Don't believe that article
We know science is not a person or single institution; most people don't trust the group of scientist that work close with government, it's not about scientis but about the pharmaceutical industry, politicians, etc. You shouldn't trust the way the media present the information. They'll call dumb and conspiracy theorist to anyona who question anything

>>14512808
>The US doesn't have any leftist political parties. Liberals are not leftists. Liberals and conservatives are both rightists that support capitalism and imperialism.
You're confusing "liberals" with "neoliberals".

>>14515436
>whatabout
Not an argument.

>>14518745
he's not confusing anything, he's right
historically, left-wing parties were socialists, US just happens to have to right-wing parties masquerading as opposition

>americans are retarded and mentally ill
tell me something new

>>14515529
so you are saying darkies have toxic masculinity? sounds racost

>>14518747
>he's not confusing anything, he's right
Why? Because they call themselves "liberal" (while doing the exact opposite)? By that logic, they're leftists too.

>historically, left-wing parties were socialists,
A lot of them were, but not all.

>US just happens to have to right-wing parties masquerading as opposition
Yes, but this doesn't disprove what I said.
Liberalism has always been a sworn enemy of the right.
Right now liberalism is dead and buried.
Again, you're thinking about neo-liberalism (in fact, even the term neo-liberalism would be giving them too much credit, at this point is literal full-blown fascism).

>experts say BLM protests don't cause covid-19
this was the last straw for me

>>14518753
/thread

Anybody who has had the scientific method explained to them knows that it works and how it has led to such vast material progress.

There is a difference between trusting science and trust le Science™

>>14518845
>Why?
Not him, but because their positions are right-wing. Compare them to any first world country, say, Germany. Their "centrist" party is slightly right-wing, and democrats are far right of that regarding their political positions and propositions.

Give me one reason I should trust science.

>>14519426
The holy Bible tells you to trust it.

>>14519426
Why would you trust random Facebook posts or social media posts or even yourself?
Why trust anything if you don't believe in anyone.

>>14519476
Just because I don't trust science or believe in science doesn't mean I don't trust anyone.

>>14519474
Not really

>>14519503
Seriously, do you sh*t and p*ss on the holy book's sayings??

>>14519556
Yes I use Al Gore's book to wipe my butthole

>>14518745
>Not an argument.
The anon insinuated that American liberals are objectively to the right; which is an absurd that makes sense if you unironically believe anything not anarchist is rightist. Happens all too often in left-wing circles for shitflinging accusations of someone being right wing.

I'll reiterate my question. What rightist groups advocate for hormone blockers and HRT for children, reparations for minority groups, abolishing institutions designed to halt illegal immigration, and immediately eliminating gas powered vehicles?

>>14515434
why do retards like you identify themselves with a mentally ill incel loser?

>>14520501
Consider suicide normalfag

>>14520501
Joaquin Phoenix joker was pathetic.

Heath Ledger Joker was the only good Joker who made sense.

>>14513518
>force everyone to take emergency use authorization novel "vaccine" technology for a 99.99% survivable illness
>HAHAHA THEY DIDN'T ALL DIE LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE AN IDIOT
lmao fuck off retard

>>14515952
>so what if excess deaths are higher than covid deaths, nobody even notices!!! cope!!!
try applying that logic to the "pandemic" you retard

>>14513020
>fearmongering
Have you been to school, retard? Half of the teachers in my highschool were anti-capitalist tyrants. This is what happens when you let the bottom of barrel teach children. Just like every good commie, they bring nothing to the table.

>>14518163
Or they got bamboozled and now realize it. The fact that others did not grates against their emotionally based decision and their ego can't take it.

>>14519426
You shouldn't. That's the point. Science gives you all the methods you need to check the findings yourself.

>>14519949
>which is an absurd that makes sense if you unironically believe anything not anarchist is rightist.
r u an rrtard
https://www.quora.com/Are-Democrats-in-the-US-left-wing-or-right-wing
There is a world outside of the US, you know? And they all see that democrats are right-wing with right-wing policies.

>>14520608
>over two years into this shitshow
>still claiming it was about mortality
>not reducing long covid, general sickness, helping against spreading, flattening the curve to reduce the load in the health system

>>14521191
>it's not about mortality it's about uhhhh long covid and flattening the curve!
fucking lmao

>>14521206
Show me a single source that says we did the measures because of mortality.
Muh death rate is all you idiots have because you're still too fucking dumb to understand simple dynamics. Nobody ever fucking cared about mortality since March 2020.

>>14521178

>>14521189
Why would the US political system be calibrated to the rest of the world? Do you calibrate everything in your life to that of the entire planet? No? Then stop trying to play "GOTCHA!" games to feel like you're clever. You just end up coming off as a dork.

Science says all black people are LGBTQ+

>>14512151
Science is mostly fake and gay now. Only Mathematics and Engineering stand uncorrupted.

>>14521449
it has already been demonstrated that engineers are happily willing to let innocents die in order to forward their woke feminism agenda

>>14521464
That's the failure of social "sciences" and their AA policies. Not my department.

>>14512808
Here's the /leftypol/ tranny.
>NOOOOO BUT THEY'RE NOT TRUE SOCIALISTS, LIBERALS ARE RIGHT-WING LIKE REPUBLICANS!

>>14512151
science is a religion and scientists are priests who tell lies for the king

>>14521191
>long covid

>>14521449
Math has been pozzed ever since String Theory

>>14521449
Mathematics has been pozzed ever since String Theory and Common Core.

>>14512151
>Borenstein and Fingerhut
Lol

>>14521406
>Forbes puts out bullshit soi article
And?

>>14521414
>USA NO 1, WE DA BEST
lol@u
It isn't measured against the rest of the world, it's just that definitions exist for a reason. You can choose to ignore them, but have to endure the ridicule that follows.

>>14521506
You're speaking of academics, not scientists.
>>14521449
I'm in engineering currently. We got a code of conduct recently and diversity days. Women and diversity people get extra courses and extra money.

>>14521835

>>14513518
i've watched 3 different vaccine death compilations all with different footage
this tweet just shows reductive statements can be anything

>>14521855
I still don't understand what you're trying to say here. I'm beginning to think you actually have no point besides memes.

>>14513020
It has been the republican who where very religious the last 60 years and the democrats who where very pro science, yet during that time the scientific method has only gained more and more support. Only now that "science" is being used to make calls to authority people start questioning it. So your argument disproves your position.