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So...
Throughout my entire life, Mathematics has been my weakest subject. It's always seemed like an unaccessable faction of academia that I could never hope to penetrate or even reasonably understand. In fact, I was even diagnosed with "discalculia" in high school. As such, I felt that my only option was going into the arts. Somehow, some way, I discovered that I had talent in the arts. It was something I was GOOD at, something that came naturally to me. However, the entire time, I felt as though something was missing. Throughout my entire life, science has been a passion for me, and the only thing I want at the moment is to be able to overcome my phobia of math and study science, particularly astronomy, in all of its unadulterated glory.

So I ask you, /sci/:

A): Is it possible for someone with Discalculia to overcome their disadvantage and fully embrace mathematics?
B): Is there any form of mathematics that requires artistic talent? Should I pursue engineering?

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>>1449076

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>> No.1449087

You are asking the right questions in the wrong place. /sci/ is only going to give you trolls and idiots.

>> No.1449093

>>1449087
>still doesn't answer the question

>> No.1449103

If you're good at arts, you should be somewhat good at Calculus. Even with discalculia most of Calculus is conceptual. Hell, even I was good at Calculus.

>> No.1449145

>>1449103
The problem is that I gave up at the end of Algebra. Is it really that much different in calculus?

>> No.1449153

Depression has a huge effect on ones ability to perform academically. The worst thing you can ever do is become depressed about your capabilities in mathematics. With enough practice, even an idiot can learn math.

>> No.1449158

Khanacademy.org

You can thank me later.

>> No.1449175

>>1449158
Do this OP.
If you try you will be able to do it.

>> No.1449185

>>1449175
Thanks to both you and >>1449158

However, I'm still left to wonder what place artistic ability has in science, if any. The only thing I can immediately come up with is architecture and engineering, which I'm sure is incorrect. :/

>> No.1450244

What you're describing is kind of similar with what happened to me in high school. Leaving middle school, and in the beginning of high school, I was damn near at the bottom of my class. However, my father was a scientist, and knew I would likely pursue a field of science, he strongly pushed the school to allow me into the various math classes that would let me get into AP Calc my senior year. All along the way, it was an immense struggle, and I never felt I entirely understood what was going on. However, once I got into calculus, I began to understand everything much better.

After high school, I went on to study engineering. Over the course of my studies, I started to realize how comfortable I had become with math, and I have even added on a double major in math. I dunno if it was just the added experience, or if the higher maths just have more physical application, but I would say there is definitely a chance for you to "embrace math"

As for B, I'm not entirely sure if any one branch of math lends itself particularly to the arts. However, there is a strong link between math and music, so it doesn't entirely surprise me that you do like the arts. Artistic talent really isn't something that would force you into engineering either. Creativity would be useful for any of the fields of science, so if you wanted to pursue astronomy, I'd say go for it

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>>1449158
Whoa.

>> No.1450267

Why would you chase after a single screw? Shouldn't you like, have more than one or something?

>> No.1450275

oh look, viral marketing for that doofus Khan Academy

>> No.1450304

>>1450275
I just don't understand this. You do realize that he's teaching people for free? What in the world makes you dislike him?

>> No.1450311

>>1450304

shitty thread like this, Khan

>> No.1450328

OP, once you get past calculus, you should be fine. Many of the higher level sub-fields of math require little to no use of numbers or even variables beyond those used as labels. You could probably do fine in topology, geometry, or knot theory or perhaps even group theory and algebra (which, past calculus, barely resembles the algebra taught before calculus.)

The problem here is that up to and including and even a little bit beyond calculus, math is very linear - you are expected to be good at one subject before moving on to the next one. This means you somehow need to get through calculus. Of course, everything you need to know about calculus after you get through it is how, conceptually, it works - see how physical concepts like volume and area relate to each other through calculus, how concepts in physics like position, velocity, acceleration, jerk, and so on relate to each other through calculus, that kind of stuff. The actual taking of derivatives and integrals can and will be automated once they are understood, though in the mean time, people will expect you to crunch formulas.

If you're in college, try to find a sympathetic math professor - for example, someone in topology who students like and who has some heft in the department. Before you meet with him, read up a bit on what topology (or whatever he does) is, so you can look like you are really interested. He might, for example, let you audit or take pass/fail an intro-level class he's teaching that would otherwise require calculus as a prereq, and if you do well enough in that, you can see where to go from there.

>> No.1450354

Some good advice in here OP. Calculus can be algebraically intense, but past that its really not bad. And as it was already said, it can all be automated once you understand how it works.

And there is room for art in mathematics. Look at Calabi-Yau sculptures for example.

>> No.1450369

>>1450328
>jerk

>> No.1450389

>>1450369

It's a technical term.

>> No.1450395

>>1450389

No, not really.

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Urban and Regional Planning, bitches.

Anyone know anything about it? The major, job outlook, etc.?

>> No.1450421

>>1450395
Yes, yes really. Jerk is the rate of change of acceleration.

>> No.1450427

>>1450410

I can beat SimCity.