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1434418 No.1434418 [Reply] [Original]

Consciousness requires a functioning and active neural net (possibly of a specific complexity to allow for self awareness).
From all my readings on religion it was 100% clear that god has intentions, desires, emotions, self awareness, etc. All the signs of a neural net.
Thus god must have a neural net.
The only known neural nets exist on Earth and our observations of the cosmos do not suggest a vast inter-galactic communications highways needed to uphold a god-like consciousness.
In fact, the only way a god-like being could exist is if it filled higher dimensional hyperspace and wrapped itself around the space-time membrane of our universe (like a balloon wrapped around a pocket of air) and monitored every particle interaction in the universe and fed it into its brain.
This is a preposterously absurd preposition with no evidence to back it up.
Thus it can be easily concluded that not only does god not exist, due to a lack of a brain, but the laws of physics do not allow for a cosmically conscious all powerful being.

This is why I know with 100% certainty that god does not exist.
Nature does not allow for gods.

>> No.1434434

God is not bound by the laws of our universe.

>> No.1434435

>>1434434
how do you know that?

>> No.1434439

someone doesnt understand transcendence

>> No.1434440

>>1434434
nice cop out fagfag

>> No.1434444

>>1434434
Your statement is as credible as mine:
Bananas are not bound by the paws of fish.

>> No.1434448

>>1434418

>god is a neural net

tbh, the way you described it almost makes sense

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<-----This

>> No.1434469

>>1434439
Ok so let's assume God is transcendent. That means he cannot affect our world.
Which means all stories about miracles and the after life are false.
A transcendent God is one who sits by and does nothing and does not care about you one bit.
Thus there is no point invoking him if he does not interact with us, or give a shit about us.

>> No.1434482

>>1434448
What doesn't make sense about it?
>>1434444
Also, check out my quadruple quartos!

>> No.1434533

>>1434448
I think OP is saying, all consciousness resides within neural nets, meaning God must have a neural net?

>> No.1434539

>>1434418

everything you said verifies my suspicion that your mother is a whore

>> No.1434560

>>1434533
who the fuck is this "god" you talk about?

>> No.1434568

>>1434418
True. I really appreciate this thread. I hate people claiming you cannot disprove the existence. You can. It's simple. And I am so happy to know that there are people around the world that understand. Thank you for existing, OP.

>> No.1434572

>This is a preposterously absurd preposition with no evidence to back it up.

Oh hey look, just like the concept of a god in the first place. Good thing you have little miss useless tl;dr there.

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1434580

Maybe you're right but you're still cutting your wrists, lonely without any love or joy.

>> No.1434584

>>1434539
Everything you have said verifies my suspicion that you are in inbred redneck retard who fucks his sister while watching nascar.
>>1434560
This "God" I speak of is a concept created by human imagination many thousands of years ago to explain natural phenomena which were not understood at the time.
Over time this "God" concept grew many barnacles and weeds on its hull and is now a great lumbering mass of twisted rules and archaic ideologies.
Make sense?

>> No.1434597

>>1434572
Not OP, but yeah, he takes the wrong shortcut here. You could actually argue that if a god in a different dimension exists, we'd be able to measure it, at least if he was able to observe us.

>> No.1434603

You percieve God wrong, God is the laws of the universe. When you can remove that poison in your shitty little fucked up brain, then you will know only pure logic. and be able to see the truth. God is the laws of the universe, without God we wouldn't exist, neither would the universe.

FUCKING DUMB ATHEISTS. I VOTE BURN ALL YOU MOTHERFUCKERS. I LITERALLY WOULD BE UP FOR THAT, I WOULD HELP. IF OBAMA WENT TO KILL ALL WHITES IN AMERICA, EVEN THOUGH I AM WHITE, I WOULD FUCKING LOVE TO SLAY ALL OF YOU, IN FIRES.

>> No.1434604

>>1434568
Thank you good sir.
I appreciate the support.

I think its time we stopped letting religious people tell us what God is and isn't, what God can and can not do, and we start saying; "Hey! Fuck you! If God did exist he would exhibit X, Y, Z properties. We don't see those properties so FUCK YOU right in the face!"

>> No.1434624

>>1434603
>>You percieve God wrong, God is the laws of the universe.
If what you say is correct then "God" is not conscious and can not have thoughts, desires, emotions, goals, likes or dislikes.
And I am proven correct again.
Thank you.

>> No.1434642

>>1434603

so what's the point of praying for the law of gravity, or the third law of thermodynamics? how do you know that the laws of physics are against abortion or stem cell research? why would the laws of physics hate gay people?

>> No.1434649

>>1434642
Very good points there, as I said, the laws of physics cannot be conscious.
But it doesn't matter cause that guy we are talking to is an obvious troll, even though he raised and interesting point.

>> No.1434670

>>1434649

i don't know if we can say anything about consciousness, science doesn't even have a clear definition of what it is.

>> No.1434672

OP is saying, next time someone says you cant prove god doesnt exist, kick them in the nuts, punch them in the face, then while then bleed and writhe on the ground, lecture them on neuroscience and cosmology.

>> No.1434696

>>1434672
Imokwiththis.jpg

>> No.1434718

I think the first line is inaccurate. As far as we know, any processor of sufficient complexity could support consciousness.

>> No.1434724

>>1434718
The, ah, the processor would act as the neural net then.

"neural net" doesn't literally mean human neurons connecting to each other.

>> No.1434731

>>1434724
Wow, thank you for saving my breath.

Do you agree with my argument?
Can you see and holes or possible additions to make it stronger?

>> No.1434736

nice thread op, you stand in good company with your position.

>> No.1434756

>>1434418

>with no evidence to back it up

That was all you needed to say, the rest is just masturbation.

>> No.1434760

>>1434736
Thanks, I'm thinking of blogging this kind of shit.
Like making a very science focused philosophical blog which also aims to help atheists put up with the bullshit thrown at us by religion?

>> No.1434777

>>1434760
Do it!

>> No.1434785

>>1434731
I'm the same person as >>1434572, so... not exactly.
When you say something like >there's no evidence to back it up, therefore there is no god,
then all the work you did before is kinda rendered moot. Since the same argument can be applied to the concept of god without mucking around with the first part of your argument.

>> No.1434794

>>1434785
Yeah. Op should feel free to take (the idea of) my argument with him, what do you think?
I'm >>1434597

>> No.1434802

Maybe in 50 or 100 years or so, we'll have a more in-depth and scientific understanding of consciousness. Maybe we should wait until then before speculating about the necessity of a neural net? But all in all, it's a cool idea.

>> No.1434815

No you haven't fool woman. God isn't what you percieve God to be. You believe God has emotions, feelings, etc; you admitted it then and in the original post. God is emotion, God is feelings, God is growth, God is everything in the universe. God is the laws of existence. God is nature.
>>1434624
>>1434624
>>1434624

>> No.1434841

>>1434815
>>God is everything in the universe. God is the laws of existence. God is nature.
If God is everything in the universe then god IS the universe.
And sorry to burst your bubble mate, but the universe is NOT conscious.
Meaning, god doesnt command us to do anything in his name nor does he give a shit where we stick our dicks or when etc...

>> No.1434850

Every who pretends to believe in god on /sci/ are just overly successful trolls pissing off the atheists.

Why is this all you faggots talk about?

"The word 'God' is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."
...-Albert Einstein

>> No.1434866

>>1434794
Honestly I know very little about the hard facts of higher dimensions, so I really can't say.

>> No.1434876

>>1434841
>the universe is NOT conscious.

Just for the sake of Devil's advocacy here, what's to say the universe isn't conscious? It's theoretically possible the strands of starstuff in space could make up its own neural network so far beyond our ken it's not even remotely testable.

'Course, that's going into Science Fiction. But hey.

>> No.1434885

AHAHAHAHAHAH
>Human
>Human interpretation
>"The universe is not conciouos"
>Human interpretation
>Human
>Universe
>Human
>Universe
>Human
>Retard
>Interpretation
>Universes Interpretation
>Not Human
>Human Interpretation
>Never travelled a light year.
>Don't know for sure if one exists.
>"The universe isn't concious"
>Spidey Senses.
>Die in a fire.
>Soul is back with God.
>He knows you're a dumb faggot.
>Soul goes to hell.
>>1434841
>>1434841
>>1434841
>>1434841

>> No.1434891

>>1434866
People at the LHC are right now, this very minute, studying particle collisions and if they note an absence of energy which should be present it will become evidence of other dimensions.
This is a good example of how the absence of something expected can be used as proof of something else.
And yes if God existed in other dimensions we should eventually still be able to study those dimensions.

>> No.1434919

>>1434885
>"The universe is not conciouos"
>conciouos

>>1434876
>strands of starstuff in space could make up its own neural network
>strands of starstuff in space
>starstuff
Ummm, yeah nah brah.
Have you even decided to cosmology so much as to even astrophysics?
Go look at some data on solar systems, galaxies, galactic clusters etc... and you will see no such thing as you describe.
A neuron takes in a signal, processes it, then outputs a signal to another neuron.
Stars are clumps of gas squished down so tight that the atoms fuse together releasing energy.
Big difference between a star and a neuron.

>> No.1434921

What exactly do you picture God as? A man sat on a cloud? Or some kind of huge spacial creature floating around through space, checking up on his creation? No. God is an essense, he is everything, god is energy and god is the reason all of our hearts are beating right now. If God didn't exist, no heartbeat, and no trees, and no earth, no universe. God is was makes all this possible.

On that note, let's discuss miracles/possiblities in life:
-Time
-Light
-Dimention
-The ability to write
-The ability to talk
-The ability to run
-Other species.
-Plants
-Socks
-Cats
-Wind
-Fans
-Faggots

You should be studying the pattern within these rather than what they consist of; you're all like, wow! that faggot has a gene that makes him a faggot. WHO GiVeS A FUCK, he's a faggot.

>> No.1434934

>>1434919
>>1434919
>>1434919
>>1434919
>Spotted intential mistake.
>Used it as an excuse to ignore the rest of the post.
>Scientist lol.
>Retard, not fit to pass natural selection.
>Terrible specimin of a Human.

>> No.1434956

>>1434885
>>1434934
Worst troll ever.

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>>1434934
>intential mistake.

>> No.1434969

>>1434921
This post's summary:
>Fucking Faggots, how do they work?
wtfamireading.jpg

>> No.1434973

true

>> No.1434977

God is an essense
>Translation: I don't have a fucking clue what I'm talking about so I'll make some vague reference to the word "essence"

he is everything
>Again I have no idea so I will be as general as I can.

god is energy
>I dont know what force carrier particles are so I'll just call God "energy".

god is the reason all of our hearts are beating right now.
>I dont know about muscle cells so I'll make some reference to the human heart which is no where near as important as the brain and only serves to pump oxygen and nutrients to the brain, but I dont know this cause I am ignorant of science and live in a dark box called religion.

>> No.1434988

>>1434919
>ridiculing my use of the word 'starstuff'
>implying it isn't just an easy slang, who gives a shit?

In any case.
>so far beyond our ken it's not even remotely testable.
>tries to compare it to neural networks as we know them

Yeah so that was kinda the point.

>> No.1435046

AHAHAHAHAHAH
>Hasn't provided any proof that the universe isn't concious.
>Guesses that what i'm saying is wrong.
>Walks away
>Fuck Yeah
>Still a retard.
>Starts crying because he's going to hell.
>>1434977
>>1434977
>>1434977
>>1434977

>> No.1435246

>>1435046
>Hasn't provided any proof that the universe isn't concious.
Every telescopic observation made is proof that the universe is not conscious.
Consciousness requires neurons.
Space has no neurons.
Space has no consciousness.

>> No.1435266

>>1435246
>consciousness requires neurons

Considering the only consciousness that anyone can ever be sure of is his own, I think that's hardly accurate.

>> No.1435277

>"Every telescopic observation made is proof that the universe is not conscious.

Human + Telescope = See Telescopic Evidence
Telescope = 0
You say ----> you and they <---- OBSERVED space. That's a human interpretation of a much larger picture. Human conciousness would not be the same as Gods, Gods conciousness is energy itself.
>Consciousness requires neurons.
Human interpretation of space.

>Space has no neurons.
Human interpretation of space.

>Space has no consciousness.
Human interpretation of space.
>>1435246
>>1435246

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1435279

I dont know quite how retarded you are but does this picture look like part of a brain to you?
Or does it look like clouds of gas in which stars are born?

>> No.1435281

> the only way a god-like being could exist is if it filled higher dimensional hyperspace and wrapped itself around the space-time membrane of our universe (like a balloon wrapped around a pocket of air) and monitored every particle interaction in the universe and fed it into its brain
> using completely hypothetical psuedo-scientific nonsense in a proof
> derp

>> No.1435317

Supposedly religious people would say God doesn't need to have a neural net or whatever because he created the universe and he could have created a whole new way of having consciousness that humans could never understand. Just sayin'

>> No.1435318

>>1435277
>Gods conciousness is energy itself
Who the fuck do you think you are to tell us that God's consciousness is not made out the same stuff that every other consciousness is made out of and is in fact made out of unspecified "energy"?
The "energy" you speak of must be contained within a neural net for consciousness to arise.
The pattern of electrical activity which makes up all consciousness on Earth is contained within neural nets.
So either you must be some new neuroscientist with groundbreaking research showing that consciousness can exist without a neural net or you are just some crack pot hippy who thinks ghosts and angels are real.
R-tarded.

>> No.1435327

>>1435281
Calling string theory pseudo science.
Classic nub!

>> No.1435330

/sci/ cannot into philosophy

>> No.1435340

Using science to back up a philosophical stance is perfectly within the realms of /sci/ content.

>> No.1435356

>>1434418

thats because we are god noob

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>>1435356

>> No.1435384

>>1434418
>>1435318
>>1435318

Listen kid, you're not smart; all of your information comes from reading academic books and crying yourself to sleep wondering what the final frontier really was like.

You interpret God wrong. You picture a higher living organism, as I said before, 'a man on a cloud' - When really he is 'the creater', the spark to the 'big bang', the left to your right, and so on.

The planet rotating is not God saying "Earth, Rotate". It rotates by God existing. We all exist between opposites. God is what provides the spark, or energy, to everything. If he pulls one essential spark away, like light, everything else falls down. The earth stops rotating, we're all fucked, etc etc.

I hate people like you. You label religion as faith, because in schools you teach kids to percieve it wrong, with tales of fictional storys - Saying heaven is a paradise in the sky, and the earth represents the earth we live on now. Fucking idiots, seriously, one day in the NEAR future, the bible will be exposed, and you'll eat your words when you realise it's actually a maths book, explained how it should be.

>> No.1435397

Also, pseudoscience > science - science is observation and guesswork. Pseudoscience is application and truth; not all pseudoscience is correct though, so don't let one idiot fool you.

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>>1435384
>You label religion as faith

Okay, really? What.

>> No.1435420

>>1435384
Nigger, are you trolling?

>> No.1435422

ITT: idiots in their natural habitat.
investigate and observe

>> No.1435430

>>1435411

Religion is code, morals - to show ones children and ones self to understand the difference between right and wrong. Religion also explains the creation of the universe and things that have occured and things that are to come. It's not some made up story, the words aren't literal. For example, Jesus in the bible represents the 'Sun', it doesn't represent a person. Over countless years Jesus has been pictured to be a human, which is false. Then we have the Heaven and Earth, which are basicallly:

H - E

Just opposites, like space - matter.
It explains life in a different way than science does. Science prooves genesis, not the other way around.

First, God created the Heaven and Earth.

FIRST GOD. BY EXISTING -
= HEAVEN AND EARTH

Not a man with magical powers creating the heavens in the sky, then the planet earth.

>> No.1435433

ITT: people disagreeing about whether God exists because they have different definitions of the word God.

>> No.1435467

>>1435433
Pretty much any interpretation of God is ridiculous. If you observe God as any type of sentient being then you're likely wrong. And the people who see God as a "force that holds the universe together" are stretching the word so thin that they may as well just define EVERYTHING as God. It's essentially saying "physics is God!"

>> No.1435479

1 First God made heaven & earth 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters. 3 And God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light. 4 And God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness.

1 G = HE,

You can substitute the literal words for algebra if you like. You can also draw a mental picture of what this looked like. Think simple, the very first moments in time. I say 'moment' because a second is human created.

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>>1435433
ITT: OP proves nature does not allow for Gods. Butthurt religious nubs cry over it while we all laugh.

>> No.1435490

>>1435467
Yup you are right.
And when they finally fall back on "god is the laws of nature which allow us to exist" you can say "the laws of physics cannot be conscious therefor they are just laws and not god".

>> No.1435494

/sci/ + religious posts = D; ?

>> No.1435988

I used to be a full fledged atheist, until I took a good look at my life and all the possiblities. I soon changed. As I've said multiple times, God is energy. Gods conciousness is above ours, and above observation. You believe the 'Big Bang' created life; that's impossible, you require two things to create a bang, pressure and counter pressure.

If just one of those pressures were possible, the other would too; as you would get friction or counter force to the pressure. If you push something, you can feel its weight pushing back on you. Before the big bang, was a sequence of pressure, then it banged. It didn't just 'bang' - what a stupid theory.

God is everything, God isn't someone, God is an essence, as I said. Who put your soul in the sperm; if you name a chemical then tell me what put the soul in the chemical - if you try to troll and carry on, tell me what put your soul in the next piece of shit you bring up. God did. When you die, your soul goes back to God - God chooses where you go. You have the ability to make good or evil choices, so I'm guessing that if you make more evil choices than you do good, God will chose an evil judgement rather than a good one.

As we live in a timecube, I'd imagine the good judgement would be releasing you out of the cube, pressure [ >] this way. If you're evil then [ ]< pressure this way.

>> No.1436012

>>1435988
You don't understand what the big bang was, an expansion of space-time is not an explosion. It is a misnomer.
There is no evidence for god, let alone specific gods, there is evidence for the world and the big bang.
Also if you belive in a Omnipotent god, then that god either does not exist, or can never be proven due to its inherently illogical nature.

>> No.1436015

>>1436012
I should note that there is no evidence against the concept of god, but thats another issue.

>> No.1436020

>>1436012
>>1436012
>>1436012
You never witnessed the big bang, you guessed it. So please, retard, stop contradicting yourself. Expansion requires two things aswell, so what's your point?

>> No.1436029

>>1436020
We never witnessed the full orbit of every planet but we can observe with more than our eyes. extrapolating evidence in a logical and rational manner is not "Guessing" or do you stop acknowledging the sun exists at night?

The universe is expanding, if we move backward we see that everything must have at one time being on top of everything else, the cosmic radiation concurs with this.

>> No.1436035

>>1434418
Not sure if troll.

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ANYONE WHO POSTED ABOVE THIS LINE IS A TROLL

OR HAS BEEN TROLLED

>> No.1436062

You can observe.
Observe is human interpretation.
You look through a telescope at a planet millions of light years away; but you can't travel a light year, and you don't have proof to say one exists. It could be a mere illusion; you have NO proof to say it's not.

You can't tell if the universe is expanding, how do you know it's not doing the opposite. How do you know that one day the stars will fall to earth? You don't. Science is rarely 100% correct. If it's 99% correct, then it's only 99% according to academa.

I'm not doubting your scientific intelligence, in this life it goes a long way; however, as a human you are not that intelligent, you're poisoned with academa which makes you believe in this false image of the universe. If you washed your brain out of these 1000s of words and you just lived life: 1. you'd be 3x more intelligent, 2. you would come to better conclusions, 3. nature would select you to survive.

We will not pass natural selection; we will be wiped out for ignoring the truth, ignoring inevitable dangers and events; or we'll kill ourselves with modern weapons of mass destruction.

God is everything. If light didn't exist, neither would we OR the universe. If females didn't exist, neither would males. If up didn't exist, neither would down. GOD is what creates this bond between everything.
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>> No.1436090

>>1436062
You seem to have trouble understand that no thought action or event is bonded to reality by any force.
The argument you are using can be used to disregard anything and everything.
We might be wrong, nobody is saying we can't be, but reality is in line with what we predict. So abandon all rational and logic if you wish, but that is the only way to keep your argument consistent.

You're either a child who has just seen the matrix, or a troll. Either way you understand very little and reject even what is independently verified.

TL/DR: Your argument cuts both ways and is therefore a non-starter.

>> No.1436155

It's a perfect starter. You fail to understand the power that 'Word' has on your brain. You can not delete 'Word' and it only increases. Your brain is clouded, you are not fit to create a true theory.

Einstien was a great man, also Jewish. I'm sure there was a reason Einstien was Jewish; he wouldn't just be Jewish whilst not believing in God.

As you cannot travel and have not travelled a light year, any conclusion you come to with something 'a light year' away is falsified, for the simple fact you don't even know if one exists; you made an 'academa educated' guess, which is the worst type guess. True education is 'education of the mind' - pseudoscience. There is a reason species make it through natural selection, that isn't by reading books and learning words, trust me.

Science is inevitably a product of how WE as humans interpret our enviroment; however, our brains are clouded with false rules; mathmatics being one of them.

You can draw a straight line between me and mars.
You can also draw a straight line between me and you.
You can seperate that line into halves, then quarters, then eighths, etc.

_____________
______ ______
___ ___ ___ ___
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

What we do, as we are humans, is disect the line.

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 12 miles.

As a universe, that equates to 0.
________________________
it's just a line, and the line is 0.

You fail hard, trust me.
>>1436090
>>1436090

>> No.1436166

>>1436090
Just ignore the fail trolls preaching their LA DEE DAH God is Love bullshit.
This is /sci/ and we talk with logic and reason.
So just ignore em and they will go back to fucking their mums.

>> No.1436176

>>1436166
>logic

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As a universe, that equates to 0.
________________________
it's just a line, and the line is 0.

You fail hard, trust me.

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1436184

Apply your scientific logic to this.
Why do our clocks not go to 16?

>> No.1436187

>>1436155
>Einstien was a great man, also Jewish.
No he wasn't, that is a lie.

We are done here, the rest of your post is half-arguments that mean almost nothing when properly presented, and even less now you've failed to do so.

You have refuted nothing I have said and your shit makes zero sense.
>It's a perfect starter.
The fuck does that even mean?


You're a total moron, even if you're trolling you're a moron because you're saying nothing. I'm out and won't be returning for a bit, if you can support yourself in any way with evidence I might come back to point out how such a thing would contradict your earlier points.

>> No.1436206

You're an idiot.
Einstien was Jewish.
Yes we are done here, but you're still the worst type of human, and nature would NOT pick you for natural selection. You are delusional human. You are so deluded that you believe your science to be the truth, and anything else to be stupid; you're TAUGHT to believe that, so yes, please, fuck off and don't come back until you can truly see what life is.
>>1436187
>>1436187

>> No.1436221

>>1436184

Because you touch yourself at night.

>> No.1436223

>>1436206
(pisst)
He was only culturally a jew, spiritually he was a deist.

>> No.1436235

>>1436223

Einstein stole all of his theories from Tesla anyways.

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1436238

>>1434418
>>1436223
>>1436221

Einstien Jewish
During the 3rd Reich
Helps Hitler
>Is Jewish
>Helps
>Hitler
>HELPS
Forced?
>E=MC2
>Timecube
>3rd Reich
>E=MC2
>Energy

Conspiracy?
I think so.

>> No.1436256

>>1436155
pseudo-intellectual nonsense

>>1436235
you're thinking of edison

>> No.1436262

>>1436256
>pseudo-intellectual nonsense
What exactly allowed humans to make it through natural selection? Academa I presume. EHEHEhE
Fucking poisoned faggot.

>> No.1436263

>>1436256

No. E = mc^2 is credited to Einstein.

>> No.1436290

>>1434418
But the entire universe is energy. The rotation of planets is no different then electricity on a higher order. Our electricity is electricity on electricity in a sense.

source:
http://www.einsteinelectricity.com/

>> No.1436297
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1436297

AHAHAHAHAH
I see it.

E=MC^2
Was really,
E=SM^2

Matter, Space, ^2
Einstien really was on about timecube.

I knew I noticed the urgency in this picture. Obviously he is trying to signify something. Probably to do with the 7 stars on our face/body/hands. Just as da vinchi depicted in some of his drawings.

>> No.1436305

God was created out of fear of the unknown, thousands of years ago.
People wanted to justify our creation, which comes from some part of human nature, a desire to know what's unknown or confusing to us.

No one could really think up of a real reason we're alive or created, nor could they find any evidence of anything at the time.

Thus, People came to the conclusion that something much more powerful than themselves must've created them. Gave it a name, and spread the idea.
And since humans were much less knowledgeable, or 'corrupt' as some people here are saying, plenty of humans accepted the idea as a fresh way of feeling more comfortable about our existence. Then, of course, Some people took it to the next level, which was organized worshiping and such, as a way to prevent feeling unthankful for living.

God was created out of fear, Imagination, Lack of truth at the time or the like, and was broadened and carried out through all the historical events and such that just couldn't be explained.

And no obviously, plenty of people can take it even further, as if they individually could speak for God.

Besides, God didn't make the world it is today [socially]. We did.

>> No.1436311

>>1436305
>And no obviously,

I meant Now.

>> No.1436313

>God was created out of fear of the unknown
stopped reading there.
You were taught that. You did not witness his creation or the reason he was brought up. God isn't a singularity, so that statement is false. You interpret God as something God isn't.

>> No.1436332

"1 First God created the Heaven and Earth 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep, and the spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters 3"

1 SM^2

(space matter)

>> No.1436351

>>1436313
So you reject all we are taught or discover? Thats a great way to think.
Also how can you say what god isn't? If god is the creator and definer of all things, omnipotent and omniscient, then he is by his very nature beyond logic, as he made logic!
Therefore it is impossible to say what god is or isn't, unless this god is neither creator nor all-powerful, in which case he isn't very god-like.

>> No.1436356

>>1436305
Isn't also something to with the fact that once you become self aware and a thinking being and realize you're going to die no matter what you do that knowing that reality causes huge amounts of anxiety and we evolved with a "spiritual" part of that brain to calm our primitive asses?

>> No.1436375

>>1436356
We evolved to attribute intelligance to nature if thats what you mean.
Because "Oh shit a wolf" is a better survival plan than "Its just the wind".
Fear really does keep you alive.

>> No.1436387

We have the wisdom tell the difference between the wind and a wolf, without academa. We live and learn, and if we got killed by the wolf then obviously we are not fit to cope with nature.

It doesn't mean we should sit around a table with cups of tea discussing the wolf - are you mental?

What's the difference between us and monkeys?
What's the difference between us and sharks?

We have the 'Word' virus.
You can't rid your brain of words. You even think using words. "Ooooh loook, its a wolf". If you didn't have the word virus, you would think purely instinctive, and as a human you would be 3x more intelligent
>>1436375
>>1436375

>> No.1436392

>>1435988

>In the universe, there was not--- Oh wait, there was already some guy there, he was called God and he was omnipotent and omniscience. Apparently, he is energy and he created the big bang by existing hurrdurr.

Stop trolling and gtfo.

>> No.1436398

>>1436387
None of that relates to anything I said.
I belive the correct responce to this is: lol wut?
But I'm rustly with memes.

>> No.1436399

>interprets god as a singularity, more importantly, a 'guy'
lol. what a fucking headcase
>>1436392

>> No.1436404

Actually, it relates completely to what you said.
Lol wut?

>>1436398

>> No.1436417

>>1436404
How was it related to what I said?

>> No.1436433

>>1436399


Sigh, by what I'm reading of your posts, you really are deluded.

I can tl;dr all of it in one go, "Human logic cannot understand God, but my logic can and yours can't, so stop trying to disprove it"(I won't say HIM since you're going to get pissy at the meaningless classification".

>> No.1436465

you don't have logic,
you have the 'word virus'

I know I have the 'word virus',
therefore I'm more logical than you are, and I can think outside of the word virus. I know the bible is a maths book, it's talking in mathmatics, you just need to be able to decipher it. I can, and have - you can't, you can't even interpret it as one, because the 'word virus' is in control of you, where as I'm in control of the virus.

So please, mr. logical delusionist, die.
>>1436433

>> No.1436475

>>1436465

Yeah, because you're right and everybody else is wrong. Every single human logic doesn't make sense, but yours does.

Have fun.

>> No.1436476

>>1436465
>bible
>maths book

Ok,...
you're aware that even maths isn't tied to reality? There is no force that demands maths be correct, it is simply observed to be so.
Since you reject all observations as have that "word" thing you keep going on about your position is self-refuting.

>> No.1436480

>>1436476

Did you that although maths isn't tied to reality, cocks are tied to my face?

>> No.1436486

HAY GUYS I THINK THE LEFT FRONTAL LOBE IS ALL THERE IS TO THINKING AND PERCEIVING BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN CONDITIONED BY MY CULTURE AND EDUCATION THAT THIS IS THE NATURAL WAY TO THINK THEREFORE I AM UNABLE TO GRASP THE OBVIOUS FACT THAT IT IS ALL ONE CONSCIOUSNESS PLAYING A DIVINE GAME WITH ITSELF, NOTHING IS WRONG NOTHING IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING, I DON'T REALISE THIS HOW COOL AM I?

>> No.1436492

>>1436486

HURRDURR, OUR THINKING IS FLAWED BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THAT INTELLIGENT.

Our sense of perceiving things might not be perfect, but our simple logic sure is.

>> No.1436500

>>1436480
Its a name, get over it.

>> No.1436511

>>1436500

Warden, I think they're only four people on /sci/ right now. You, me, the troll, and that one other guy.

>> No.1436515

You're talking shit,
You don't know anything; everything you are taught is false. You aren't even told your composed of opposites. If I said every human is created with two opposite halves, you'd reply "Well they're not exactly opposite". You are taught wrong, and non-oneism maths explains life, thats the reason I understand the bible is a maths book, and you don't.

The bible is written in Gods own words, Gods own path. That's the universes P.O.V, not human interpretation. Have you the brain to realise this? No you don't, I do however, so I'm more humain than you are.
>>1436476
>>1436476
>>1436476

>> No.1436525

>>1436515
>non-oneism maths
Now you're just making shit up. I hope you are a troll, because if there is somebody as crazy as you out there...

>> No.1436528

>>1436515

Everybody is wrong, I am right.

Hurr durr

>> No.1436547

>>1434434
for the name of god... this must be true, why else call it god?

atheist here

>> No.1436557

It's called Logic, in the near future you'll see what lengths people will goto to explain this logic. You live in a dream world; where women get their nails done and go shopping - instead of surviving naturally.

You're nothing. Your genetics will not make it through natural selection. Think about that, your genes will cease to exist over the next 80 years.
>>1436525
>>1436525
>>1436525

>> No.1436561

God is the laws of the universe.

>> No.1436645

>>1436557
You've already rejected logic, so now you're arguing with yourself. THis is that stage at which I shall leave you to, whatever it is you've got going.

And it's rather cute you think I will not "Pass natural selection", you have no idea how funny that is.

>> No.1436672

What can be asserted without evidence can be discarded without evidence.

>> No.1436680

>>1436561
Then he might as well not be worshiped.

>> No.1436684

>>1436672

And thus the thread ends.

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1436690

I'll just leave this here.

>> No.1436715

I like OP's idea.

>> No.1436770

EXACTLY!
We think above 'God', above the laws of the universe, as we have freedom of choice; however, we must obey them, we cannot go below 'God', only above him.

You fucking nazi.
To that watson guy or w/e you're called, I don't mix with your kind anymore, in-fact, die, now.
>>1436680
>>1436680
>>1436680
>>1436680
>>1436680
>>1436680

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>>1436770
/thread

>> No.1436795

>>1436770
>>1436770
If you meant me, what exactly do you mean by "kind" and "anymore"?

>> No.1436805

Ok I'll bite.
Your NPD, word virus, trollist, type.
>>1436795

>> No.1436816

It's as if Genesis 1 is the only legit part of the bible; and the rest is a weapon. It's like the word virus began and people knew of where it would lead. Revelations is now, so I'm guessing it was a tactic from the blacks to take over America.

>> No.1436849

GUISE

The Big Bang requires some sort of energy to come from nothing.
That energy is God.

Ta-da!

Thats how I make peace with religious fags.

>> No.1436864

>>1436849
>>1436849
>The Big Bang requires some sort of energy to come from nothing.
No it doesn't.
>That energy is God.
why would it be?

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1436868

You, Sir, have my sword.
>>1436849

>> No.1436887

Hitler was an atheist.

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1436894

Hitler knew of timecube, and wanted to eradicate the jews before they found out the pyramiding system like Einstien did.
>>1436887

>> No.1436896

The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this. -Albert Einstein

>> No.1436898

I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism's. -Albert Einstein

>> No.1436903

Scientific research is based on the idea that everything that takes place is determined by laws of nature, and therefore this holds for the action of people. For this reason, a research scientist will hardly be inclined to believe that events could be influenced by a prayer, i.e. by a wish addressed to a Supernatural Being. -Albert Einstein

>> No.1436913

It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it. -Albert Einstein

>> No.1436914

>The word god

He didn't agree with the God we teach; I beleive he thought what I think.

Also, just a question, why don't you take more notice of how things look, rather than how they work. DNA for example; you educate yourselves on how it works, but you don't spend much time comparing how it looks. Maybe the most primitive parts of the human body/genetics is alike God.

God is essentially 'the creater', and God is still around us.
>>1436898

>> No.1436932

Also, these quotes are during the Third Riech, so lets put a bit of thought into what he was allowed to say.
>>1436913

>> No.1436938

>>1436914

read

>>1436913

>> No.1436948

>>1436932
He left Germany in, 1933 (I think) so you can throw that idea away.

>> No.1436950

I have blue eyes and fair blond hair

I also have Jewish Ancestry

How does that make you feel?

>> No.1436955

>I do not believe in a personal God

He doesn't believe in the God we are taught. You know, the one in the clouds... He believed in the God that created the universe. The spark that caused the big bang, the reason everything exists.
>>1436938
>>1436938

>> No.1436960

>>1436955
Please cite your source for thinking such.

>> No.1436961

Science is an attempt to make sense of things from the bottom up.
Religion is an attempt to make sense of things from the top down.

Being a religious science guy I am a coolguy.

Also, it will be interesting to see what you guys think a few years down the line when a NWO lead by the anti-christ declares himself to be god and he heals a fatal injury since he is the clone of Jesus.

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1436967

Einstein was an Atheist

How does that make you feel?

Please Discuss Einstein's Atheism.

For me he is a great role model.

knowing that Einstein thought that religious believers were simple minded fools who had a fear of death and filled that fear with bullshit magical soul world.

>> No.1436978

The ability to realize government control on what is and whats not released to the public. Einstien was Jewish; yet he denies belief in God; that alone is a clue as to a belief in 'God', rather than the word 'God'.

During the third reich he left to the states, I'm guessing that whilst he was here he released that information, E=MC^2, which was released to the public. I believe this really meant: Space + Matter ^2. If timecube is released to the public and people follow it religiously, then the government falls, and theres a bird out side my window with a stick in its mouth, anyway, if people have cubic thought, the word virus falls, and people revolt; because they realise the governments lies and how fake this world really is. It's not like Einstien would of been allowed to say everything he knew; that would be a stupid move.

The government has secrets, lots of them. I'm sure they never want them released to the public, especially if it will cause a change in power.

Why would he be Jewish, without belief in God? and why specifically Jewish during the 3rd Reich; and why would he
>help
hitler eradicate the Jews? Surely thats just government propaganda.

>>1436960

>> No.1436991

>>1436978
Lots of assertions but no evidence.

>> No.1436994

FEAR OF DEATH?
YEAH RIGHT!
I can't wait till I die, and I can't wait till you die. So please, reassure yourself that I am NOT scared of death, and I believe in God, not the word 'God' which you know. I don't follow routines, and I'm the first to stand up and fight. If someone comes at me with a knife, I don't run, I try to disarm the dude - death doesn't cross my mind, because I know it's not the end; for I began, and I have soul, because I'm me, and you're you; so why can my soul not be put into a new body after death.

Your heart is your soul, not your brain.
When you die your heart beat looks as follows:

/\/\/\/\_/\__/\________________ .... /\/\/\/

Isn't that a much nicer way to look at death, and it's just as correct as any of your theories. How can you explain Death when you can't even explain Life; only guesswork, that's all your science is.

-Big Bang
-No life after death
>Never seen the big bang.
>No-ones ever cam back from the dead.
>>1436967
>>1436967

>> No.1436998

>>1434416

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>> No.1436999

Lol, and your evidence of the big bang is:
-Red Shift.

>>1436991

>> No.1437005

>>1436999
Now you're not even pretending not to troll.

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>>1436290

>> No.1437015

>>1437005
Can't believe it took you that long to find out. It's funny to see what lengths people go to troll other people on the internet, I finished my hw, masturbated, then took a shower and he's still here.

I don't know whether to pity him or laugh.

>> No.1437035

Sometimes looking at events and applying wisdom goes a long way. Ignorance on the other hand will just set you back. It goes hand in hand what I said; but doesn't agree with you - I'm guessing you don't want it to be true, or you can't think of it as true; therefore to you it's false - which is fine. Just don't expect me to agree with you when I see clearly how life works. I bet you haven't even been to CAO and read up the synopsis of TC CD; soon it will take over the internet, along with a percentage of the world, and the government will be forced to induce the fourth reich, and everything will become clear.

How has the bible been so accurate, and if it was wirtten years ago, how did they manage to get the first part right. "First God, created the Heaven and Earth" - which basically means Space Matter, and the "First" part depicts time. I guess it's just how we interpret this sentence, but what the fuck else would it mean? I think you should read Genesis 1, to get a true picture of what I'm trying to explain. I say it's a maths equation; check it out and proove me wrong. I say that equation is E=MC^2, in the form of E=SM^2

(=) = time
S = Space
M = Matter
^2


>>1437005

>> No.1437040

>>1437015
You think I didn't always know?
I guess you haven't been reading my posts.

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1437045

I haven't stopped masturbating

>> No.1437049

>>1437040

I've skimmed through most of the posts in this thread quickly just to see what it was about, it's pretty interesting in what the other guy believes. I wonder why he's telling all of us this when we simply don't give a fuck.

>> No.1437052

>>1437035

110 stories bro, maybe you should find other examples.

>> No.1437057

>>1437049
exactly... life works this way, so why care?
I care only for my future children, and other children.

>> No.1437062

>>1437057

They wouldn't let other children near you, and I doubt you'll ever have children.

>> No.1437063

>>1437052
Ignorance wont get you nowhere. If you don't want to check it out, don't, but then you cannot proove me wrong, so don't try it little one.

>> No.1437066

>they
Who, exactly?
>>1437062

>> No.1437070

>>1437066

Normal people.

And also, you're trolling /sci/ because you're a nigger right? I can tell by the way you type.

>Ignorance won't get you nowhere
>nowhere

Nigger.

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1437071

The earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep + the spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters.

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>>1437071

>> No.1437133

>>1437035

The Ultimate Equation of /sci/

sci=BS^2

>> No.1437390

>>1437010
>>1436690
OP here:
These images are beautiful and amazing but the thing is, the "filaments" of the universe are made of galaxies, which are made of stars.
These are balls of exploding gas.
Neurons are very very very very very very different.
No cosmologist even suggests the idea that the galactic filaments act like neurons.
Nice pics tho.

>> No.1438257

>>1437390
This. Couldn't have said it better myself.

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>> No.1438303

God is omnipotent. If he chooses he can exist in a way that makes him appear as an impossibility. Atheists are dumb cause they can only argue on their own terms, logic and reasoning, in a field that doesn't suit it too well.

>> No.1438320

SO much trolling that this thread has officially been registered in a fishing tournament

>> No.1438321

These trolls are getting lazier and lazier..