/sci/ - Science & Math

>nothing will happen
>lol global warming is a lie by big government and oil companies, because they will totally make money that way, yeah.
Damn, nigga, you a retard.

>>1402941
copy much?

>>1402975

Well as the world's temperature rises we can expect to see deviations from current weather patterns. Things like hurricanes should get more powerful as well as last longer. Once the arctic ice finishes melting we can expect to see drastic changes in the ocean currents, which will it self effect migratory paths of fish and sea animals along with possible their breading cycle.

Depending on how the air currents change we could see ether more or less rain fall in the northern hemisphere. Now while more rain would produce flooding it would generally be good for crops, where as a lack of rain fall may dry out the soil.

Also the overall solar input in the visible spectrum should decrease slightly due to the increase in expect cloud formation and moisture in the air.

Of course there's more that can happen, and the intensity of these effects is dependent on just how much warmer the planet gets, which is it self whole debated. Personally I'm inclined to agree with the larger (though not absurdity so) estimates rather then the smaller ones.

Why do you need confirmation? Yho is either based on real evidence or a figment of your vacuous imagination.

The real climate scientists believe anthropogenic GW is real - almost unanimously.

That the Earth's climate is getting warmer is pretty well evidenced; the real debate is as to whether it is due to man-made causes or just Earth's wacky climate cycle.

>>1403016
Non-experts' opinions are normally always based on no evidence at all.

>>1403021
image speaks truth

also, co2 is proven to make shit hotter

Also, dem graphs fitting together like puzzle pieces

>>1403021
ok, so how many people wo are global warming advocates fly in private jets and drive in limos?

It is a natural cycle, just like the ice age.

>>1403030
co2 does make the planet hotter, but is this a bad thing? ice caps melting will make the oceans rise and change underwater currents like the gulf stream, and also destroy human habitations near the water, is this a bad thing?
crops will fail and people will starve, is this a bad thing?
not for the planet or for other forms of life on it, they will survive and live on. global warming, and any arguements for any other kind of preservation are all about human sustainability. human beings are not teh only form of life on this planet, and things will continue after us. probably better off.
and in teh end if you really want to stave off global warming, there is several things you can do:
1. kill yourself
2. don't have children
3.ride a bicycle
4. stop using electricty(UNLESS you live in phoenix,az where we get out power from nuclear and hydroelectric, and soon to be sloar tower...eat a dick faggots)
5. dont eat processed foods
6. dont buy anything from stores
7. stop breathing(see number 1)
the logic behind this is simple, all of these things create carbondioxide emissions and warm the planet. if you really want to save the planet from global warming then do all of these things. otherwise stfu about this crap. dont try to force your ideas and beliefs on other people hoping you wont have to change. fucking ecofaggots

>>1403097
*lives in norway, where all power is water*
Of course it's about saving humanity, what the fuck, man?
You honestly think anyone gives a flying fuck about the monkeys in the rainforest?
We want that shit to stay because AAAAAIIIIRRR

It's all about keeping humanity alive.

Don't tell me you think actual, intelligent people say "save the planet"?

>>1403120
no i dont but i am giving tips to idiots, who are the ones who should follow my first and second tip religously.
the rest of us who ride bikes and try to live without fucking shti up are generally cool.

Global Warming should help us move towards using Nuclear Power. It's better than fossil fuels anyways. I just rage when people mention alternative energy sources and exclude Nuclear. Water, Wind, and Solar may be good, but they're very situational depending on what part of the Earth you're located. Nuclear can be used just about anywhere.

>>1403156
Geothermal says fuck you.

global warming itself is no issue - it's the speed at which it is occurring that has been, is, and will cause problems

>>1403156

nuclear power is notoriously unsafe though. lest we forget what happened as chernobyl

>>1403185
Oh boy, here we go.

>>1403185
Yeah, chernobyl is just one of many, many, many incid-
Oh wait, it was ONE incident, and it was due to russians drinking too much vodka

We shouldn't use boats, either, lest we forget what happened to Titanic!


Fuck YOU, sir

>>1403185

Accidents are inevitable. With large scale power generation, large scale accidents are inevitable. But we've gotten pretty good at safety engineering. Military, aerospace, medical engineering, etc. routinely make highly complex systems with very low failure rates.

The Russians cut corners on the RBMK designs so they could use low grade fuel and make plutonium for nuclear weapons. It was an unsafe design from the start. Knowledge at this point is refined enough to do it right.

>>1403218

it's not me you have to convince, it's the general public

>>1403185
>hurrdurr chernobyl
That was caused by the russians doing some stupid risky shit with an unsafe reactor design that was considered obsolete by the time of the accident. With modern reactor designs it is virtually impossible to cause a meltdown on the scale of chernobyl. AT WORST, you might be able to deform the fuel rod assemblies from the heat before emergency features kick in and shut that shit down

>>1403185
No, it's not unsafe. The Chernobyl plant used a bad design that no engineer would use. It was built on too tight a budget. Such designs are completely illegal in the developed world. You would NEVER see such an accident occur in France, for example, where 80% of electricity is from nuclear plants. Such accidents are easy to avoid.

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>>1403052

>herp derp scientists are wealthy as all fuck and can afford private jets

Cool story bro, spoken like a man who knows shit-all about science or the people who do scientific work.

>>1403097

>probably better off.

Bitches don't know about my mass extinction

If aliens visited 100 million years from now, and had paleontologists analyze the geologic record for biodiversity, they would come to our sedimentary layer and think that we were hit by a goddamn asteroid. In terms of geologic timescales, what humans are doing to the biosphere is indistinguishable from a gigantic impact event.

>1. kill yourself
>7. stop breathing(see number 1)

Someone apparently doesn't know that living organisms are carbon-neutral

>3.ride a bicycle

OH NO THE HUMANITY

>>1403263
What if the dinosaurs were actually hyper-advanced and were doing the same shit we are? D:

>>1403249

Right. To be specific: positive void coefficient (low or boiling coolant speeds the reaction!), partial containment (full containment would have been expensive since there's a crane over the reactor to install or remove fuel rods).

It was a recipe for disaster. The fact that it happened was somewhat inevitable. It wasn't anyone's specific fuckup and once the process started there was no way to stop it.

Fun fact: there are still RBMK reactors in use today.

>>1403286

That would be pretty awesome and hilarious actually

About the nuclear though. It's safe yes, but we really need to be considering what you do with the spent uranium. Sure, it doesn't take much to put out a shit ton of power, but let's hypothesize that our society does exist for a long time, it all adds up, and what do we do with the fuel then?


You could say, chuck it into the sun! But I guess the question is, can we store all of it safely until we have the technology to shoot extremely heavy metals into space like that?

>>1403321
reprocess it

>>1403321

I've heard somewhere (can't remember the exact source) that if all the world magically switched to nuclear power today, we would run out of uranium in a few years. Of course there's shit like waste reprocessing and thorium extraction, but that requires uranium prices to be very very high before it becomes economical.

>>1403366

You're still left with waste that can't be reprocessed. I agree, it's the best thing we can do with the spent fuel, but it doesn't magically make all the radioactive waste go away

>>1403408

Too fucking blurry, find a better picture if you want any of us to know what that even is

>>1403321

Haven't done my homework there as much as I should (so feel free to discount my opinion) but I don't think it's as big a deal as it's made out to be. It's highly concentrated polluting material, but I think that's preferable to a much larger volume of polluting material that disperses globally, as you have with coal power.

>>1403408

The top graph cuts off at 1900 (how do i shot reading)

Also, the top graph represents temperatures from tree proxies from central England whereas the bottom one represents the whole world.

>>1403366
shoot it in space. lol

>>1403430

By no means am I saying sources like coal are better, quite the contrary! I'm just saying that nuclear IS an option, but we should still focus on completely clean sources of energy with no waste, such as wind, solar, geothermal, wave, hydro etc. I think if we use nuclear to help us out while we develop those technologies, it could work out, but I don't think nuclear is a long term. We can reprocess the waste to make it even more concentrated, but there is still waste material that we are currently just burying underground.

>>1403495

I dunno. There's plenty of bad shit underground already (that's kind of where the uranium came from in the first place). Vitrification, if I'm understanding it correctly, should more or less prevent it from contaminating water or spreading around as dust.

It's not perfect, but considering what we get out of it, better than a lot of the alternatives.

We're fucked, but not quite as bad as some of the major enthusiasts would have you believe. Enjoy polar bears and most species of bees and butterflies while they last; they'll be extinct in your lifetime.

Its proven quite a while ago, that the earth is cooling down, Some places do gain some temperature, but its all very local, when you look at the REAL evidence not those wacky-pseudo-envirimentalist-fags nonsense you can see temperature has been steadily falling.

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>>1404041
>>There's plenty of bad shit underground already (that's kind of where the uranium came from in the first place).

best be trolling nigga, if not: you just went full retard.

I bet you have no fucking idea how uran is extracted from its ore and how non-dangerous the ore is. FUCKING FAGGOT,

>>1404068

Good evening mr troll, mind providing some evidence for your baseless belief rather than just spouting random bullshit?

>>1404068

Thanks for your profound insight. 9/11 was an inside job and Obama is a muslim communist. AIDS is a myth, fluoridated water blah blah blah. Wake up sheeple, etc.

>>1404095

Although harsher than necessary, he has a point.

>>1402975
First of all OP is fuckin troll. Secondly pretty much all scientist who have done related work belive in AGW.
Any of skeptics would care to site any peer reviewed evidence. From what i know there are very very few peer reviwed papers against GW

>>1404068

Wow, why are you even here? Do some research before making a claim like that.

The Earth is actually on the upswing of a 10,000 year cycle called a Milankovich Cycle. It basically means we have an ice age every 20,000 years or so. In a hundred years or so, temperatures will reach a peak. In 3-400 years, people will be complaining about global cooling as the temperatures go from a peak to a valley.