/sci/ - Science & Math

I liked the part where Frodo got bitten by the big spider.

>>1391428
I agree with the disobedient children. And everything regarding women, to the letter.

not only isnt this science related, it's a bunch of out of context quotes

>>1391428
That analogy at the bottom is the worst thing I've ever read. I'd rather read all of the Twilight books.

>>1391530

>>stating they are out of context
>>not stating how
>>not stating the proper context

cool straw grasping bro.

>>1391562

butthurt christfag detected.


It's a valid analogy.

You cannot name a single reason why you should be a Christian as opposed to simply being a deist. Go ahead and try. You can't do it. Not possible.

>>1391530

It's not out of context, those are the literal interpretations.

>>1391587
And in this case the literal interpretations are mostly valid, since the passages come from the books of laws.

>>1391530

>>HURR MY SUNDAY SCHOOL TEACHER NEVER MENTIONED THIS DURING MY WEEKLY CHILDHOOD BRAINWASHING SESIONS THESE PASSAGED MUST BE TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT DUUURRR HERP DERP DERP

>>1391563
I'll help him.

First of all, Jesus abolished the death penalty, as can be seen in John 8:1-11.

Hating our family is obviously a metaphor for the idealogical conflict that Christianity will bring. All he's saying is that you should follow him even if your friends and family disapprove. I challenge you to find me a single Christian who actually hates his family because of his verse. Westboro Baptist Church doesn't count.

"I came not to bring peace, but a sword" - another metaphor used to describe the concept above. This is evident because of Luke 12:51, in which he says the exact same thing, but uses the word "divsion" instead "sword".

For the rest, search google or something. There are plenty of websites explaining those passages.

>>1391642
No. It's obviously a metaphor for stoning gays.

>>1391530
>sage
>not science related

Only one person in this entire thread has responded correctly so far.

>>1391655
second

>>1391642

Those are some extremely debatable things you have stated, as is everything found on google.

Bible has been debunked brah.

>>1391642

>>google or something. There are plenty of websites explaining those passages.

>>google

GOOD IDEA! USE GOOGLE!

Follow your own advice and you will find that those piss poor apologetics that try explaining these verses have all been thoroughly debunked.

ITT

>>1391684
Debate them, then.

>>1391692

>>implying there is dichotomy between atheism and Christianity.

>>1391707

>>http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Point_refuted_a_thousand_times

>>1391714
The passages I defended have also been defended a thousand times. Unlike you though, I actually presented my defense. It's like what >>1391563 said, only in reverse.

wow. i got mind fucked

sure is /sci/ in here

OMG OP has the smarts !

bumpty bump bump

saged, reported, not science related

>>1391725 here
Alright, I'm out because the faitheists have obviously forfeited this match.

Christians: 1
Atheists: 0

>>1391725

You are correct, they have been defended a thousand times...with BAD invalid logic. The christfag in question then refuses to accept the facts due to his inability to cope with the reality that his religion is an enourmous fucking delusion, stops posting for a month, then comes back to make the same stupid claims again.

GTFO. If you are too fucking stupid to figure out why those piss poor explanations from >>1391642 are invalid it is unlikely anything anyone says can help you.

>>1391765
butt hurt christian isnt science either, gtfo

>>1391767

Your a retard. cya. have fun believing in fairy tales.

>>1391778
Still no argument of substance, just baseless ad hominem attacks.

Why don't you just admit that atheism is a delusion made by wicked people who don't want to accept responsibility for their actions?

>>1391642

Prove that it's a metaphor.

You can argue that anything is a metaphor for anything. It's not "obvious" at all.

What you are doing is known as SPAG.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/SPAG

dude. athiests accept responsibility for what they do.

EXAMPLE:
- we make an oil spill, we spend money to clean it up.

EXAMPLE OF WUT CHRISTIANFAGS DO:
- they make an oil spill
- they go pray,
- feel better after 1 day.
- all animals die.

>>1391808
It's obviously a metaphor because someone who preaches a message of radical nonviolence is obviously not going to advocate violence. It makes MUCH more sense if you interpret it metaphorically. Also, the one, holy, Catholic, and apostolic Church, which is the sole authority on scriptural interpretation, has always interpreted it this way.

Let me ask you something: How do you know that there was a big bang? You weren't there. God was. Who should I trust?

>>1391816
correction
dude. athiests accept responsibility for what they do.

EXAMPLE:
- we make an oil spill, we spend money to clean it up.

EXAMPLE OF WUT CHRISTIANFAGS DO:
- they make an oil spill
- they go pray,
- they spend money to fix it

>>1391808

NO NO NO YOU DUMBFUCK

DON'T TELL HIM WHAT IS WRONG WITH HIS ARGUMENT. DON'T DEBUNK IT.

HE IS EITHER HONEST ENOUGH TO SPEND THE TIME GOOGLING FOR WHY HIS ARGUMENT IS INVALID OR HE IS AN IDIOT WHO IS JUST LOOKING FOR PISS POOR RATIONALIZATIONS TO KEEP DELUDING HIMSELF

DO NOT GIVE IN. DO NOT ARGUE.

>>1391826

whens the last time u see christians do shit when something bad happens ?

- soldier gets wounded.
- pray.

- children get raped.
- pray.

>>1391831
http://www.google.com/search?q=christian+charities&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mo
zilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
you're pretty fucking stupid.

>>1391825
I hope you're trolling. Either way, we've mathematically and physically deduced that there was a big bang like event. We do not cling to this as absolute truth, and understand that it is subject to change.

You (if you're not trolling) have no logical reason to believe that the man above is in the image that you believe him to be, or even there at all. Neither is it correct to assume, with absolutely no direct or indirect proof, that he is unchanging.

>>1391825

>>How do you know that there was a big bang? You weren't there. God was. Who should I trust?

Holy fuck, that's not just a Point refuted a thousand times, thats got to be a million times by now.


Anyways, google "God of the gaps."

>>1391808
wouldn't you be the one projecting yourself as god, because you demand that he adhere to your personal moral code in order for you to accept him as god?

>>1391838

-get money from charity
- 50% advertising
- 4% pay the ppl who work the charity
- 45% goes to the owner of the charity.
-1% goes to african kids.

stupid argument as they intend to answer different questions
(creation of the universe vs the evolution of the universe)

>>1391825

>>Jesus preached nonviolence

Extremely debatable.

-Why die on the cross? ( implies blood sacrifice )
-Fit of rage at temple
-completely ignoring contradictory passages in the bible and instead just going by Jesus' words alone is "cherry picking" and by extention, SPAG.

Your still SPAG'ing

>>1391845
I believe it because it's in the bible. The bible is the only book of absolute, unchanging proof. The bible says it, I believe it, and that settles it.
>>1391846
If we didn't have a god to fill in all the gaps in our knowledge, then science would be nowhere. Think of it as the almighty lending us a helping hand. You should be thankful.

>>1391854
once again, you're stupid (i hope you're trolling)
what you said applies to pretty much ALL charities anyway.
>Christian charities made up nearly a quarter of the 100 best nonprofit groups for financial integrity in the United States, according to a leading nonprofit management magazine.
http://www.christianpost.com/article/20071210/christian-charities-rank-high-in-top-100-u-s-nonprofit
s/index.html

>>1391867

>>claim to be open to debate
>>fall back on "HURR IT MY FAITH I BELIEVE IT BECAUZ I JUST DO DURR" when losing

confirmed for massive retard.

>>1391866
how is going by Jesus' words alone to judge Jesus' character projecting? I'm going by the sermon on the mount. and dying on the cross is a perfect example of his non-violence - he didn't resist it at all.

>>1391867
Get out. Get the fuck out and never come back. That nonsense illogical poop doesn't belong on a science forum.

You don't deserve the privilege of using the computer in front of you, or anything else you have science to thank for, living your life thinking like that.

>> u are all discussing this matter while assuming jesus ever existed

Hey Christ faggots, nothing in the Bible can taken literally and nothing can be taken metaphorically. It's the way you interpret it, whoever wrote the Bible is trolling you faggots so hard.

>>1391867

>>The bible is the only book of absolute, unchanging proof.

This right here is the logical flaw that keeps people under the thumb of religion.

It's not absolute unchangeable proof you enormous thundering uneducated twat.

What it is, is UNVERIFIABLE CLAIMS regarding UNVERIFIED states of being.

I or anyone can just as easily state there is a magical invisible pink monkey taking a magical invisible shit on your head and then claim the knowledge came from an "objective source" and guess what? Just as valid as the Bible.

>>1391891
No, my computer was made by real scientists. The big bang theory was made by atheists who wanted to discredit Genesis.

>chocolate in a pile of dung

EVERYBODY TROLLAN!
Why is this still here?

>>1391915
Am I just being trolled? Seriously now?

>>1391891

This.

Anyone who falls back on "well I just believe it because its what I believe no evidence can change that" has no place to be on any public forum that has anything to do with discussing knowledge.

What this idiot is doing is petty intellectual cowardice. You retreat to your little "its my faith" hole whenever your shit is slammed to the ground and then return a month later with the same debunked arguments.


Get out. Now. The fact that weaklings like this are not all born in 3rd world shitholes is proof enough that their is no just God.

>>1391922
you've been getting trolled the entire time.
people need to realize this is site has its niche, and it's not for christians.