/sci/ - Science & Math

reasonable people on top and zealots on bottom

>>1386319

credulity is not reasonable ( agnostic theists)

>>1386322
Saying 'I don't know' and then having personal biases and preferred ideas while still maintaining that you don't know is a reasonable position.

Claiming to know something you don't know is not.

>>1386337

no, it is not, believing in something without evidences is not reasonable

>>1386312

no
atheism = deniel of god, "there is no god"
Agnostic = "we don`t know"

This idea of these dual tearms is invented by cowards and are only be seen for the last 5~6 years on this forum and some books of wretched writers, who once called themselve true athiests, but started warping words difenitions since they day they find out they were actually wrong.

"noo you see i wasn`t wrong i only changed my opinion 90 degrees"

If you have to conclude you don`t know wheter there is or is no god just call yourself agnost. And keep using the words as we use them for centuries.

>>1386366

not sure if troll

its like saying. i dont know if this large dog walking down the street towards me is a nice dog or a dog that will attack me, but i damn well sure hope its a nice dog

I don't see why your graph has three axes.

what you guis think about gnostics?

>>1386391
the atheistic gnostics to be more precise.

>>1386351
Subjective evidence and testimony is evidence, just not proof. And thats all you are ever going to have for or against this. (if it was possible to disprove then it would be a simple matter of doing it)

Saying that proves anything is not reasonable, but deciding that it sways you towards being more inclined to believe it than disbelieve is perfectly reasonable.

>>1386393
They're just fine. I don't take the gnostic to mean "I know there is no God". I understand it to mean "I know I'm not going to waste anymore time thinking about this."

>>1386393

Gnostic atheist actually never called that way that`s why these dual-terms are absurd.
Scince you can`t prove/know a negative statement.
People who claim they know for sure there is no god are called retards, sub-humans or pseudo-intelligent entity`s. and not "Gnostic atheist".

On the other hand, theists who claim to know for sure there is a god are to be taken serious. In some cases you just can`t prove thier experiences were wrong.

There are many of those quotes that keeps the ?surgeon inspired about his job, they also help him jump these large obstacles in life. Fortunately, the quotes have been released to the public to help inspire fellow surg?ons:-

"At 10, I was intrigued by surgery, I wanted to be surgeon for a long time. I love doctor shows and surgery shows. Blood is not an issue for me. I even took pictures once of me getting my blood taken. "

"Dr Babanga, my local doctor, recommended that I should perhaps try superflex before and after breakfast"

"Humanity abhors, above all things, a vacuum in itself, and your class will be cut off from humanity as the ?surgeon slowly cuts the cancer and alien growth from the body. "

Fantastic, the ?surgeon is ?inspired
Fantastic, the ?surgeon is ?inspired
Fantastic, the ?surgeon is ?inspired
Fantastic, the ?surgeon is ?inspired


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>>1386412

no scientific evidences---> not reasonable to believe

>>1386449
WTF HOW DID SURGEON SPAM REACH /SCI/! THE CANCER IS SPREADING!!

>>1386453

>implying; No reason to believe other galexies work the way our does, no reason to believe the evolution theorie right etc,etc...

Where is the sceintific evidences in the BELIEVE that laws of nature are constant at any time, on any place, on any scale.

scince we don`t know where they come from it is possible there even were no laws of nature back 6000 years ago, there is no evidence to disprove this.

I know it is an extreme statement but what i want to say is that believing appears to be the destiny of a human.
It is impossible to form a grounded and stable worldview whithout believing anything.

There are many of those quotes that keeps the ?surgeon inspired about his job, they also help him jump these large obstacles in life. Fortunately, the quotes have been released to the public to help inspire fellow surg?ons:-

"At 10, I was intrigued by surgery, I wanted to be surgeon for a long time. I love doctor shows and surgery shows. Blood is not an issue for me. I even took pictures once of me getting my blood taken. "

"Dr Babanga, my local doctor, recommended that I should perhaps try superflex before and after breakfast"

"Humanity abhors, above all things, a vacuum in itself, and your class will be cut off from humanity as the ?surgeon slowly cuts the cancer and alien growth from the body. "

Fantastic, the ?surgeon is ?inspired
Fantastic, the ?surgeon is ?inspired
Fantastic, the ?surgeon is ?inspired
Fantastic, the ?surgeon is ?inspired


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>>1386517

u mad

>>1386421

You understand incorrectly. The former interpretation you reject is in fact the correct one.

Quit that "agnostic" crap. You don't believe in a god, you're an atheist.

And there is no horizontal axis either. Belief is a binary thing.

>>1386366
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>>1386412

Gnostic Atheist here. Feels mysterious, man.

WTF is a gnostic atheist!! This chart is total bullshit and was probably drawn on a cocktail napkin.

>>1386620
Imo a gnostic atheist can exist. Aleister Crowley was one.

Ignostic master race reporting in.

>>1386620
buddism is gnostic atheist.

Atheist = I don't believe.
Theist = I believe.
Agnostic = I don't know.
Gnostic (aka liar) = I know.

Agnostic Atheist = There's no reason for me to believe in something I can't know.
Agnostic Theist = I don't know but I'll take it on faith anyway.
Gnostic Atheist = I know so I don't believe. Also I'm a lying cuntrag.
Gnostic Theist = I know so I have faith even though something that is known wouldn't be a matter of faith anymore. Holy fuck I'm batshit insane and aliens did it.

>>1386639
>everybody always forget ignosticism, even though it is vastly superior

>>1386657
i haven't forgotten you bros, and i'm still ignoring this.

>>1386657
No point, they'd ignore the discussion anyway.
And since you didn't we can surmise that you aren't.

Atheist and Anti-theist (aka fuck religion, even if it's true).

Deist here
you're both stupid faggots

>>1386552
Really depends on your definition of "know".

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