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1368149 No.1368149 [Reply] [Original]

So who would like to live in a technocratic nation for smart people?

>> No.1368176

dickbutt

>> No.1368184

i'd rather live in sexocratic nation for dumb people.

>> No.1368189

Stupid people, but you're not allowed.

>> No.1368280
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1368280

Perhaps OP didn't explain it throurghly enough.

A few days ago, some guy basically started a thread with that same pic saying 'YOU WILL NEVER SEE THIS EVER IN YOUR LIFE ;_;' which then evolved into a full-blown discussion of actually creating a nation for scientists and other smart people that is essentially a capitalis/socalist technocracy. We acknowleged we can't JUST buy an island like that, so first we have to start a company in either solar, water distillation or nanotechnology. Something upcoming that would be huge, you see.
We want to create a better alternative because, you know, the world is getting shittier by the day.

So and, we're actually gonna fuckin' do it.

Interested?

>> No.1368290

>>1368280
You're a faggot, and you're not welcome here.

>> No.1368295

>>1368280
Hey you're the kid who doesn't understand basic economics.

Can't see what could go wrong with your technocracy.

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>>1368290
>>1368295
We actually have a guy majoring in Economics helping us now.

>> No.1368305

>>1368280
So basically this is a advanced version of when kids think they can run away and hang out after play time is over.

>> No.1368312

>>1368304
So how are you going to get funding?

>> No.1368318

>>1368305
preatty much, yep.

>> No.1368320

>>1368304
And what is your major?

>> No.1368322

>>1368312
The company. If you're talking about the funding for the company, believe it or not, we actually have a young millionare that wants to back us after hearing our story. not sure if he's trolling though.

>> No.1368324

What do you have a degree in? Oh wait, you don't because you're still in junior high.

>> No.1368330

>>1368320
None yet, probably going to be something along the lines of computer networking or electrical engineering.
inb4 >engineering

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>>1368304
isnt that two boxes of butthurt?

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>>1368322
>young millionare that wants to back us after hearing our story. not sure if he's trolling though

>> No.1368333

>>1368324
Anti-sage Successfully Administered

>> No.1368334

>>1368322
>not sure if he's trolling though.
lol

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>>1368331
Yes one for each.

>> No.1368344

>>1368330
Is this tripfag naive because he is young or stupid? You decide /sci/, I think it's a deadly combination of the two.

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>>1368340
you shoop so faasstt

at least this technocracy will have ample lens flare and gaussian blur

>> No.1368349

So much trolling in here, figures. /sci/ is not a place for intelligent people. It's a minehole of trolls who know as much science as squirrels.

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>>1368347
>implying I don't have some of these saved up

>> No.1368356

So how are you going to produce a successful company with such a wide variety of science backgrounds and how would it a lab work if you only have one person trained for that area?. You can't specialize in everything.

>> No.1368357

>>1368349
>implying squirrels don't secretly have advanced understanding of all scientific knowledge

>> No.1368362

>>1368356
I do believe that one of the other guys has the answer to that. he's been writing shitloads down and planning and all that. All around the company itself mainly too.

>> No.1368363

>>1368349
>derp! people won't take my retarded ideas serial!

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>>1368352
our glorious technocratic leader saves multiple iterations of boxes-o-butthurt pics

>> No.1368365

Inurdaes's strategy is to recruit people first, and then figure out what he's recruiting them for later. In other words, this is inane.

>> No.1368370

>>1368356
Protip: it's an infeasible pipe-dream. But you already knew that. There is no point trying to convince them otherwise; they'll grow out of it eventually.

>> No.1368372

>>1368364
Maybe I've been on 4chan longer than you. Also i'm not the leader, i'm just the guy who talks in the threads.

>> No.1368375

>>1368363
>>1368357
>Implying I give a shit about this project

Simply noting that /sci/ is as intelligent in their trolling as a squirrel would be.

>> No.1368376

>>1368365
>implying this is my strategy
>implying it isn't we want more people to help plan

>> No.1368377

>>1368372
Who is the leader? Does he have some sort of alias...?

>> No.1368380

You see you fail at the first step of being a spokesperson and yet having no clue about how your future company is going to handle anything.

>> No.1368383

>>1368372
lurk moar plox

>> No.1368387

>>1368377
No leader, just a common goal for now.
>>1368380
>implying I'm the spokesperson

>> No.1368390

>>1368376
It doesn't work like that. YOU come to US with a plan, and we decide whether we like it enough to join your cause. As it is, you just want someone else to do all of the work for you and still feel important.

>> No.1368393

Ok I'll help as crazy and as unlikely as it is. My background is Biotech

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>>1368362
>one of the other guys has the answer to that

You're a damn fine spokesperson Inurdase.

>> No.1368399

>>1368390
And how do we know you have something beneficial to contribute? Oh right, we don't. So we really don't care anyway.

>> No.1368400

>>1368387
If your the guy that handles talking to people in joining and helping then you should know what the plans are.
You did say you are the guy who talks here so it seems logical that you are.

>> No.1368401

>>1368390
We have come to you with a basic plan, we want YOU to help us develop it more. if we had micromanaged everything you would of said 'Baww this and this i don't agree with omg u don't need me'
>>1368393
:D Welcome. Do you have a Google Wave account? That is what we're currently using to discuss. Also here is the forum (it's a hastily converted gaming forum)
http://terra.realbb.net/forum.htm

>> No.1368405

>>1368149

>implying an objective definition of "smart".

this is why teenagers and college freshmen/sophomores should not be allowed to post here.

>> No.1368412

>>1368401
>We have come to you with a basic plan
What plan. You don't have a plan.

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>>1368400
I do know what the plans are. I don't know the tinier details of the plan because I did not study that shit, while the other guy did.

>> No.1368415

>>1368401
What skills do you have that would earn you a place in this technocracy?

>> No.1368417

>>1368412
Ahh you haven't been around for the other threads..

>> No.1368419

>>1368417
Come on. Tell me your "basic" plan.

>> No.1368421

>>1368415
One hell of a green thumb, I can take care of some of the hydroponic greenhouses. I could (note COULD not WILL) be a spokesperson as I am really really passionate about this project.

>> No.1368422

>>1368401
my wave account is umbrella.corporation.ltd@gmail.com
I think it is just my gmail

>> No.1368424

how would sex be handled?

>> No.1368433

>>1368424
Inurdaes doesn't have the authority to talk about the politics of the technocracy. You'll have to ask the other guy.

>> No.1368435

>>1368421
Robots will garden, you're a shit spokesperson. You're surplus to requirements, you are not allowed to share our utopian dream, pleb.

>> No.1368441

>>1368433
Who's the other guy? Who in the fuck makes an idea and then refers everything to THE OTHER GUY?

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>>1368401
You haven't even macromanaged anything let alone micromanaged. So far you've only stated you want a company working on the cutting-edge, state-of-the-art technology like nano or solar. Which apparently is also building technocratic societies on the side? wat.

Solar technology is going to be handled by the Chinese and their manufacturing. The government there has been pouring tons of money into plants for solar materials. And nano is decades away from even being even close to possible. Plus global demand and credit liquidity is in the shitter because of this thing called the recession, you might have heard of it.

>> No.1368445

>>1368435

>Robots will garden, you're a shit spokesperson. You're surplus to requirements, you are not allowed to share our utopian dream, pleb.

> you are not allowed to share our utopian dream, pleb.

>our utopian dream

So 4chan's utopia? Sounds like the fucking paragon of society.

Go let laid.

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>>1368422
Added.
>>1368424
Specify?
>>1368419
Keep a note this is not finalized.
Since the oil spill in the gulf there has been a shitload of chemicals, other than oil, that have been evaporating and raining down. This is now contaminating the water supply in those parts of the US. We want to start up a small business selling/renting water filtration systems at a very cheap price that can effectively clean the water by distillation. once we gain a bit of funds we will branch into the newer 'cheap' solar panels and sell those as well. Eventually as we get stronger we branch into more technologies such as nanotechnology and so on.
The goal is to become a fairly powerful corporation (not huge like BP but big enough) and then we start seriously saving up pennies to purchase some land. Some candidates are Northwestern coastal Australia, Tasmania, some island in the Pacific, or even Western Antarctica or Patagonian Islands. After which we start constructing the basic foundations such as power plants, sewers, hydroponic farm buildings and so on.

>> No.1368456

>>1368442
China is already the world's most successful technocracy anyway. I don't see how these guys intend to compete.

>> No.1368457

>>1368435
Gonna be a while before the robots garden.
Also someone would need to set up the gardens in the first place.

>> No.1368460

>>1368445
protip: it's his utopian dream, but he doesn't qualify for it.

>> No.1368465

WHO IS THIS MYSTERIOUS OTHER GUY?

IS HE GOD? Seriously though, this guy scares me. Inurdaes always mentions him as if though he knows everything.

>> No.1368476

>>1368452
>We want to start up a small business selling/renting water filtration systems at a very cheap price that can effectively clean the water by distillation.

When? Do you have a timeline? A business plan? By the time this comes to fruition others will have done the job.

>> No.1368478

Inurdaes, you do realize a technocracy is suited for the scientific elite? It is not suited for the general public, as is any elitist group.

I agree with it myself, as I care little for the public masses of idiocy, but do you know this?

>> No.1368479

>>1368476
The other guy has that info. I know nothing.

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>>1368401
Your website has a section that spells intelligentsia "intelligensia" and another section for Warcraft 3 and "the lulz."

Do you have any idea how much of an idiot you present yourself as?

>> No.1368483

>>1368456
China is like, a COUNTRY. A normal country, more or less. This would be more specified for human advancement as well as being... specialized for humans. The end goal is to basically make the nicest, shiniest, more kick-ass country on Earth. This is an extremely long goal though, The company stage itself will take twenty whole years.

>> No.1368485

>>1368481
It was a hastily converted random gaming board from a random anon. It's better than nothing you moronic buffoon.

>> No.1368486

>>1368478
Inurdaes doesn't even understand that what he's doing here violates the basic principle of a technocracy, which is that only those who are qualified should act as representatives. Inurdaes is not qualified, therefore he should not be the one to make these threads.

>> No.1368489

>>1368481
I see you didn't bother reading the part where it's basically the same as someone converting a church to a house in the timespan of 10 minutes.
>>1368478
Yes it is for the scientific elite, as well as writers, artists, musicians and so on. Try to think of it as a society when you take out the people that work at Wal-Mart in the aisle stocking shelves, but with people with meaningful professions.

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>>1368481

lol look at that website

>> No.1368491

"hai guise
i'm a young millionaire, earned money by myself with internet scams.
i like the idea, how can I help? i don't have money enough to fund everything of course"

THIS IS THE FOUNDATION FOR THEIR PLANS, I SHIT YOU NOT. YOU COULDN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP.

>> No.1368494

inurdaes

8/10

nice job

>> No.1368495

>>1368486
As soon as someone more qualified appears I'm stepping down. I can see you're not volunteering.

>> No.1368496

This ridiculous idea won't get any further off the ground than /b/'s island fantasy.

At least /b/ had something tangible to look forward to, you idiots don't even know what the fuck you're talking about. I expected more of /sci/

>> No.1368497

>>1368478
>>1368478
>>1368478
>>1368478
>>1368478
>>1368478
>>1368478
>>1368478
>>1368478
>>1368478
>>1368478
>>1368478
>>1368478
>>1368478
>>1368478
>>1368478
>>1368478
>>1368478
>>1368478
>>1368478
>>1368478
>>1368478
>>1368478
/thread

Inurdaes knows nothing of a true technocracy, he's damn gardener for fucks sakes.

>> No.1368500

Idealists: Talk a lot of shit but never get things done.

>> No.1368501

>>1368491
No that wasn't the foundation and never was. That is more like an extra, if it comes through.
>>1368496
Constructive criticism there bro

>> No.1368504

This won't work, you need the basic working class, there would be a lot of conflict, over power/money ect.

There isn't a perfect solution, in order to have smart qualified people, you need drones

>> No.1368506

Gardeners starting technocracies, and acting as spokespersons. What the fuck is /sci/ coming too.

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>>1368483
>China is like, a COUNTRY.
>specified for human advancement as well as being... specialized for humans.
>shiniest, more kick-ass country on Earth.

>> No.1368519

>>1368295
>implying any past economic model has worked

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>>1368489
>where it's basically the same as someone converting a church to a house in the timespan of 10 minutes.

Hahah the hell does that have to do with your website being a joke. You can't afford $10 a year to host some barebones forum? How old are you?

>> No.1368524

ITT: We pretend, once again, that an idealistic 4chan circlejerk might actually do something productive this time!

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1368527

this thread is fucking classic

>> No.1368528

>>1368510
Hey, I had a hard time finding the right words for it.
>>1368504
Not entirely true. The country when built would be automated for all these boring monotonous jobs such as factory workers, and checkouts and so on.

The standard people would be the smart people as well, you know.

>> No.1368531

>>1368376
I'm sure it is something fun to discuss on 4chan, but you can't actually take it seriously.
There is no way it would work in the real world. Even if it could possible work nobody would ever take the risks required.

>> No.1368532

>>1368522
This whole thing started what... 2 days ago?
You don't want to help, that's alright, then get out of our way and out of our threads.

>> No.1368541

>>1368531
>nobody would ever take the risks required
I would

>> No.1368547

>>1368531
as would I, but Inurdaes is one of the most shittiest spokespersons I have ever seen. I'd kick him out of my technocracy.

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>>1368531
I also would.

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>>1368547
I already fucking said, I'm not the spokesperson. If you would like to try, be my guest.

>> No.1368554

>>1368532
>bawww

>> No.1368557

>>1368528
>The country when built would be automated for all these boring monotonous jobs such as factory workers, and checkouts and so on.
Do you realize how retarded you sound right now? A fledgling country doesn't have those kinds of resources. The ONLY way you could possibly start a country is with earnest labor from determined men.

>> No.1368558

Can there be some sort of intern program? I'm a quick learner, and a bit of a jack of all trades. So I would definitely be of use somewhere, doing something. However I don't have any particularly shining credentials.

>> No.1368560

>>1368541
>>1368547
>>1368548
I'm guessing you all are planning on wasting the rest of your lives trying to get funding in order to build this technocracy.

>> No.1368562

>>1368557
Oh, I can do this. I'm good at earnest labor

>> No.1368568

Technocracy is a hypothetical form of government in which engineers, scientists, and other technical experts are in control of decision making in their respective fields. The term technocracy derives from the Greek words tekhne meaning skill and kratos meaning power, as in government, or rule. Thus the term technocracy denotes a system of government where those who have knowledge, expertise or skills compose the governing body. In a technocracy decision makers would be selected based upon how highly knowledgeable they are, rather than how much political capital they hold.

A true technocracy would be quite nice, but there's too much trolls on here to do anything. Inurdaes, you are all making your case worse.

One - you're a namefag.
Two - You're a fucking gardener
Three - you are not a scientist, and are not qualified for technocracy

>> No.1368570

Inurdaes will be the first president of the technocracy. He will be marked down in history as a revolutionary

>> No.1368571

This is the sort of shit that requires life dedication. As soon as you fags get your first girlfriend you'll forget about it.

>> No.1368591

>>1368568
Your No. 1 pretty much says your opinions are invalid from basing my intelligence and entire being off having a name.
No. 2 I'm not a gardener, I'm GOOD at gardening. There is a difference.
No. 3 Who says I won't have completed biology and electrical engineering and all that crap?

>> No.1368595

>>1368591
Can the mexican who mows my lawn every month be part of your technocracy?

>> No.1368598

>>1368571
Already have a girlfriend bro. And I am dedicated to this, like nothing i have ever been dedicated to before.
*gets disapproving stare from gf*

>>1368570
But I don't want to be a president :/

>> No.1368599

>>1368591
no, if you were an intelligent namefag, there wouldn't be a problem

>> No.1368601

And, assuming this all worked out, why would the kind of people you want to gather actually move there? What benefits do you offer besides gathering the most insecure whinny intellects of the world? And don’t just say "is gonna be aussum!!!11" what opportunities will you really offer non emotionally damaged intelligent people?

>> No.1368605

I'm glad Inurdaes and Pascal are tripfags, it makes it easier to ignore their bullshit.

>> No.1368607
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>>1368595
He can if he's willing to learn and have a degree in twenty or so years.

>> No.1368608

>>1368601
All this nation bullshit isn't even part of the plan, corporation comes first. Inurdaes is on crack.

>> No.1368611

mother fuckers should look up the word 'quixotic'

summarizes this entire shitty thread.

>> No.1368616

>>1368611
That does seem to nail it pretty neatly.

>> No.1368621

>>1368601
Well first of all all the infrastructure would be open and modern and so forth. Then research would not be hindered by things like sci-fi and religious fears (which is a broad and powerful argument mind you)
More liberties and more freedoms, I guess. And there are intelligent people that would rather be around other intelligent people anyway.

>> No.1368622

>>1368607
Honestly? Degrees don't mean shit, do you even know wtf a technocracy is? Obviously not, as you're an idiot. Stop ruining the great idea of technocracy with such fail.

>> No.1368629

>>1368605

I don't believe I say bullshit very often.

>> No.1368632

>>1368611
I move that anybody who does not know the origin of the word "quixotic" should be banned from the technocracy.

>> No.1368639

NAMEFAGS STOP RUINING THE IDEA OF A TECHNOCRACY
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Is this some complex plan by faggots to ruin the idea of a credible technocracy?

>> No.1368642

>>1368622
A degree is grounds for citizenship. (negotiable) For actual big expertise and skills not found before would reside in positions of government.

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1368651

Don't let the haters stop you, Inurdaes. They'll realize how foolish they are when your dream is fulfilled

>> No.1368655

>>1368642
So... to be a citizen of your country... people need to have a degree from a different country?

>> No.1368661

NAMEFAGS STOP RUINING THE IDEA OF A TECHNOCRACY
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Is this some complex plan by faggots to ruin the idea of a credible technocracy?

>> No.1368662

>>1368651

they drink shitty beer.

fuck them

>> No.1368670

>>1368655
Sounds like Australia.

>> No.1368671

>>1368655
Not necessarily. That would most probably one of the deciding factors. Just as the nation of Finland or something wouldn't want an unskilled Mexican labourer just coming in and sitting on his ass all day living off welfare.

>> No.1368674

>>1368642

hurp if everyone has a degree your minimum wage would be stupidly high

which means goods would be expensive, near unaffordable.

try telling a college graduate or PhD they have to work someplace with no wage laws, either

durp

>> No.1368678

>>1368662
To be fair, if you are drinking to get drunk, is it worth buying better/more expensive beer?

>> No.1368680

>hurrrr only smart people deserve to live
>disregard the fact that most scientists/engineers have never done 1 day of hard labor in their lives
>society crumbles due to lack of unskilled labor/manual laborers

>> No.1368691

>>1368678
if you are drinking to get drunk, you're pretty much a douchebag already

>> No.1368692

>>1368678

yes.

i am an alcoholic. i drink vodka and gin a lot. shitty beer/liquor gives you a nasty hangover.

better liquor and beer don't fuck you as bad the next day.

>> No.1368701

>>1368680
The hurr only smart people is the most stupid thing I've ever heard. I'm saying that it would be DESIGNED for smart people and that smarter people would be more dominant. The collapsing due to lack of laborers would not happen as we would have laborers, they would just play a smaller part of the economy than other things (such as technologies, perhaps having factories in other countries)

>> No.1368704

>>1368621
So, you offer nothing an intelligent person can not do in the most redneck state in the USA. You just offer nice roads and protection from political non factors. And considering your inherent social control oriented founding principals, you can't possibly suggest you offer more freedom.
Wow, even in your ideal, your country sucks.

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>>1368704
How does a better space program than NASA sound?

>> No.1368716

Sign me up if it's whites only. I'm tired of having to interact with shitskins and slant eyes

>> No.1368717

hey, faggots, just go to nationstates.net and wank it there.

ok?

>> No.1368719

>>1368701
why would laborers want to work for a country made for the academic elite when laborers could work for a country made for laborers

>> No.1368726

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture_%28Bioshock%29

>> No.1368727

>>1368719

agreed. socialism would fuck this idea up bad.

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>>1368716
Are you tired of interacting with people of other races BECAUSE they're from a different race or because of the way they act?

Because I'm sure that they're won't be many YO YO 50 CENT MAH NIGGAHZ WUT UP in that nation.

>> No.1368729

>>1368715
>Sound
Once you can offer proof that this is actually possible, sign me up.

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>>1368715
wow, that sets a low goal.

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>>1368729
Well one of the things that the country would be focusing on is that we'd basically broadcast that we want a shitton of aeronautical engineers and such to head our space program, with goals to put men on the moon and Mars.

>> No.1368753

>>1368728
but you just said there would be laborers

does that mean educated people would be doing manual labor

but you just said that educated people wouldn't have to do manual labor

which is it? well?

>> No.1368757

>>1368746
And once that is completed we will most probably look seriously into colonizing Mars and putting a few bases in the dark ice-filled craters on the moon.

>> No.1368769

You wanna know why this could not happen?
Do you?
Really?
Want to know?
Well, it's because...
Because...
It's because...

It is sinful and God will not allow for it.
ETERNAL DAMNATION FOR YOU HEATHENS.

>> No.1368770

>>1368753
Blah. I mean that there would be labourers but not in the conventional way that you think now. More sophisticated equipment to reduce the amount of hours needed to work. There would be so-called 'stupid people' working there. Its just instead of it being 98% stupid to 2% or so smart it would be more like 40-50% smart. You see? And the society would be more inclined to support intellectual endevours instead of 'Oh dudes lets get smashed and fuck chicks'

>> No.1368782

>>1368753
No, robots will do it. You think that in a society of scientists, we won't have robots doing the work?

>> No.1368786

>>1368692
Real alcoholics don't get hangovers.
>>1368691
true

>> No.1368790

>>1368770
are you saying that there will not be opportunities to get smashed and fuck chicks in your country

praytell what is the point then

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>>1368782
Someone's butthurt.
Robots most probably wouldn't take over a large part of the workforce until they became very economical + the effects of doing so would need to be taken care of otherwise half the country might be unemployed.

>> No.1368800

Why are you on /sci/ you decrepit peice of garbage? Life is not about your inane ideals of stupidity. Sigh this is why I don't like posting this on 4chan, too many dumbfucks. Saging so it doesn't get bumped...

AND INURDAES LET THIS FUCKING DIE.

>> No.1368801

>>1368770

If anyone is stupid and doesn't work, they get left behind to die. We won't support their ass.

>> No.1368805

>>1368800
bump

>> No.1368806

>>1368790
No you can fuck as many consenting chicks while smashed as you want. It wouldn't be encouraged then though. Not discouraged either, mind you.

>> No.1368807

>no stupid people
>no stupid whores
no thx

>> No.1368808

>>1368782

you think the minerals and metals to make those robots will fucking mine themselves?

you NEED human labor. but no laborer is going to want to live in a society where he is incessantly called stupid when he could leave and go to a socialist country.

>> No.1368812

THERE are TWO? Inurdaes'?

Holy fuck, kill me now.

>> No.1368815

>>1368808
Manipulation works wonderfully. Look at the USA perfect example. It's obviously a country run by the rich, but it still has shitloads of laborers.

>> No.1368817

>>1368808
Look at the tripcode, idiot.

>> No.1368820

>>1368807
No problem, we wouldn't want someone who likes those anyway.

>> No.1368821

>>1368815

right. flat out admitting you manipulate your common worker is going to cause them to flood to your bullshit technocracy.

>> No.1368825

>>1368820
Like Richard Feynman?

>> No.1368826

>>1368815
>>1368815
This, idiots don't have the brainpower to figure out when someone is lieing to them or not. Hell, they prefer bullshit actually.

>> No.1368827

>>1368815
Every country is run by the rich. The trick is to give the poor enough allowances that they believe they are represented equally. This won't work in a technocracy because the most powerful tool of manipulation, religion, is discouraged by the government.

>> No.1368828

>>1368808
supply/demand

either you pay enough for people to put up with the derogatory comments, or you pay enough that people with the knowledge for higher skill based work will do the job.

Or else you pay a premium to import the materials from other countries.

>> No.1368830

>>1368821
>doesn't realize we're trolling you on that point
What the fuck /sci/? Is it because it's a Saturday?

>> No.1368831

>>1368821
Admitting it? Why would we do it that? Foolish child.

>> No.1368832

>>1368280

>the world is getting shittier by the day.

WROOOOOONG!

>> No.1368838

>>1368832
Only an idiot would think it's getting better. Congratulations, you have become an honorary dumbfuck. Go get raped by a nigger now.

>> No.1368842

>>1368832
But OPs mom is telling him to go get a summer job and clean his room, you can't possibly know his pain and oppression.

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>>1368832
Oh shut up.

>> No.1368845

nationstates.net

go there, children and live out your bullshit dreams online.

>> No.1368848

>>1368149
My intuition tells me this totally won't work. Too many people, too many ways to screw up, too little diversity among the kinds of people.
Not to mention a horrible male to female ratio.

>> No.1368851

>the world is getting shittier by the day.
http://nextbigfuture.com/

>> No.1368857

>>1368843
...I fail to see how a wider gap proves anything. Today's rich are richer, but today's poor are better off than yesterday's rich.

>> No.1368858

>>1368842
That shit never gets old, even when you do, get old, that shit never does, get old

>> No.1368860

>>1368851
>5 billion out of 6.9 billion subscriptions OOH SUCH A GOOD THING
>doesn't mention a lot of those are probably multiple subscriptions on different phones per person

>> No.1368861

>>1368857
It's also just focused on one aspect of one country; hardly reflects the progress of the world.

>> No.1368863

>>1368838
>>1368843
hai guis, thrs a sale at Hot Topic OMG!!!

>> No.1368866

>>1368857
>today's poor are better off than yesterday's rich
Owning a TV and shitty computer from 1999 does not count as better living standards fyi

>> No.1368870

>>1368860
>Compound 300 times more Potent for Treating Alzheimers and Grows Brain Cells in Aging Brains

Will nootropics be obligatory in this technocracy?

>> No.1368877

>>1368870
Not obligatory, but available.

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>>1368863

>> No.1368882

>>1368877
What about methamphetamine?

>> No.1368884

If you guys were competent, this could be a good thing.

However, at this rate, you're just going to give science a bad name, if you're recognized at all.

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>>1368882
Probably not.

I could see Cannabis legalized though. No real point in having an illegal plant that does fuck all.

>> No.1368892

>>1368887
Why should any drug be illegal?

>> No.1368902

>>1368892
I don't know. I can see methamphetamine, cocaine, ketamine and heroin definitely being illegal. I don't know about salvia, LSD, shrooms and so on. That would probably be voted on.

>> No.1368904

This thread makes me rage and lol at the same time. It's a fucking miracle!

>> No.1368911

>>1368881
Hahahaha, oh wait, you're serious...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>> No.1368912

>>1368902
Why are you the judge and jury of which drugs are allowed? Fuck your totalitarian wet dream.

>> No.1368914

>>1368902
But why? On what basis would they be illegal?

>> No.1368918

>>1368912
I'm not. I'm just very sure that they would be all voted illegal. I don't want to be in a seat of power, bro. Let me just make that clear.

>> No.1368920

>>1368914
Probably that they're very easy to get heavily addicted to and they fuck your health up badly.

>> No.1368925

>>1368918
Why would it even be voted on? This isn't a tyranny of the majority. There must be some reason that goes against the principles of the nation.

>> No.1368931

This reminds me of those /x/ threads about building a town somewhere.
Even if you succeed at the corporate level, the dicks you had to suck will fuck you over after that.
Change is slow unless you've got power, and to create a nation, you need power beyond all else.
Go invent something that makes someone immune to virtually all weapons. It's the only way you'll ever be able to do this.

>> No.1368934

>>1368920
I thought this was for smart people, who can use drugs responsibly and don't need to be protected from themselves.

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>>1368925
Don't ask me. I wouldn't be influencing the vote. And the people in the technocratic positions of power if it worked that way for everything would most probably have the same verdict.

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>> No.1368992

>>1368986
Why did you fucking bring this thread back up? You shit eater.

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>>1368992

>> No.1369004
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1369004

<- /sci/

>> No.1369009

>>1368992
Well at least you weren't trolled.

>> No.1369017

Oh sci fags
I'm from /b/
but i could be from /sci/

OP's pic was pretty cool

>> No.1369024

>>1368280
no youre not gonna do it, faggot. thread over.

>> No.1369025
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Bampity

>> No.1369028

I wouldn't mind living there but I wouldn't fit in. I wouldn't fit in anywhere!

>> No.1369033

>>1369024
>Comes to the party ages later
>Proceeds to think what he says will kill the thread

>> No.1369036

This thread never had a chance.

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>>1369036
>>1369033
>>1368992
Samefag

>> No.1369054
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1369054

THIS THREAD WILL NEVER DIE
THIS THREAD WILL NEVER DIE
THIS THREAD WILL NEVER DIE
THIS THREAD WILL NEVER DIE
THIS THREAD WILL NEVER DIE
THIS THREAD WILL NEVER DIE
THIS THREAD WILL NEVER DIE
THIS THREAD WILL NEVER DIE
THIS THREAD WILL NEVER DIE
THIS THREAD WILL NEVER DIE
THIS THREAD WILL NEVER DIE
THIS THREAD WILL NEVER DIE
THIS THREAD WILL NEVER DIE

>> No.1369058

>>1369043
Obviously why the third post came 10 seconds after the first. Makes perfect sense.

>> No.1369062

>>1368149
MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME I HERE ME OVER HERE, PLEASEEE !

>> No.1369068

>>1369058
lol, samefag deletes email field

samefag is same

>> No.1369071

>>1368866
Mine is from 2001~

>> No.1369075

Does this idea have anything to do with the Institute from Fallout 3? Good luck training your blade runners.

>> No.1369077

Okay i'm stopping my involvment in this thread.

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>>1368884
>>1368884
>>1368992
>>1368992
>>1369033
>>1369033
>>1369036
>>1369036
>>1369058
>>1369058
>>1369058

>> No.1369080

>>1369068
facepalm.jpg

you do know what sage is right?

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>>1369080
this told me that you can't sage on 4chan....

wat

>> No.1369122

Fuck year.

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1369131

Ok, I'm out
this thread sucks. I'm going back to /b/
Bye
chicken fuckers

>> No.1369150

Is this what I should expect from /sci/? A couple of arrogant bastards playing make-believe that they're evolutions next big thing, attempting to piss on anything that challenges their will and unable to concede when they are wrong?

>> No.1369182

>implying being quixotic is a bad thing
eat shit niggers.

>> No.1369217

>>1369182
the term is pejorative, yes

>> No.1369224

>>1369217

your mum's face is pejorative, GTFO

>> No.1369585

>>1368621
Yes, beautiful plan. Damn that scifi and its awful hindrance of our progress! Can you imagine how much higher the standard of living would be without air travel, microwave ovens, cell phones, and the internet? Inurdaes will lead us into the promised land!

>> No.1369597

>>1369150
yup, thats /sci/ in a nut shell.

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MFW I make a post in this project's forums outlining a plan that could actually save their shit (unlikely, but possible) and none of them take notice.

>> No.1369809

>>1369800
Link please

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>>1369809
http://terra.realbb.net/intelligensia-f2/my-two-cents-t70.htm

Warning: This post makes me sound pretentious but I am fully aware that my plan could be shit, I just think it's pretty rad.

>> No.1369882

>>1369800
>>1369827
I read it already. It amounts to "It wont' get anywhere" so why would anyone reply.

>> No.1369892

>>1369882
Because this is the plan outlining a method that actually has a chance, however small, at getting somewhere, unlike your current plan.

Enjoy your perfect solution fallacy.

>> No.1369906

>>1369892
I don't have a plan.
Enjoy stroking your e-peen.

>> No.1369911

>>1369906
derp herp

So you're not one of the people supporting this project, then?

>> No.1369923

>>1369911
I'm watching on the sidelines.

>> No.1369928

>>1369923
Ok then.

Replace your with Inadures'

>> No.1369941

Nah i like to easily prove people wrong and watch them try to make up an excuse for their ignorance when DERP is written all over their face

>> No.1370012

>>1369928
Nah.