/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12760365
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31055709/
>Coffee consumption has been associated with decreased mortality in previous studies. As aging, obesity, and lifestyle factors affect the risk of mortality, the association between coffee and mortality needs to be examined in various subpopulations by characteristics of subjects. To quantitatively assess this association, we conducted an updated meta-analysis including stratified analyses by potential modifiers. We searched in the PubMed and Web of Science databases through March 8, 2019, and conducted meta-analysis including linear and non-linear dose-response analyses. We identified 40 studies including 3,852,651 subjects and 450,256 all-cause and cause-specific deaths. Non-linear inverse associations between coffee consumption and mortality from all-causes, cardiovascular disease (CVD), and cancers were found. The lowest relative risk (RR) was at intakes of 3.5 cups/day for all-cause mortality (RR = 0.85, 95% CI 0.82-0.89), 2.5 cups/day for CVD mortality (RR = 0.83, 95% CI 0.80-0.87), and 2 cups/day for cancer mortality (RR = 0.96, 95% CI 0.94-0.99), while additional intakes were not associated with further lower mortality. An inverse association between coffee consumption and all-cause mortality was maintained irrespective of age, overweight status, alcohol drinking, smoking status, and caffeine content of coffee. By region, Europe and Asia showed stronger inverse associations than US. A non-linear inverse association was found for mortality from respiratory disease and diabetes, while linear inverse association was found for mortality from non-CVD, non-cancer causes. Moderate coffee consumption (e.g. 2-4 cups/day) was associated with reduced all-cause and cause-specific mortality, compared to no coffee consumption. The inverse association between coffee and all-cause mortality was consistent by potential modifiers except region.

>>12760551

>>12760569
Regarding blood pressure
>Some debates exist regarding the association of coffee consumption with hypertension risk. We performed a meta-analysis including dose–response analysis aimed to derive a more quantitatively precise estimation of this association. PubMed and Embase were searched for cohort studies published up to 18 July 2017. Fixed-effects generalized least-squares regression models were used to assess the quantitative association between coffee consumption and hypertension risk across studies. Restricted cubic spline was used to model the dose–response association. We identified eight articles (10 studies) investigating the risk of hypertension with the level of coffee consumption, including 243,869 individuals and 58,094 incident cases of hypertension. We found no evidence of a nonlinear dose–response association of coffee consumption and hypertension (P nonlinearity=0.243). The risk of hypertension was reduced by 2% (relative risk (RR)=0.98, 95% confidence interval (CI) 0.98–0.99) with each one cup/day increment of coffee consumption. With the linear cubic spline model, the RRs of hypertension risk were 0.97 (95% CI 0.95–0.99), 0.95 (95% CI 0.91–0.99), 0.92 (95% CI 0.87–0.98), and 0.90 (95% CI 0.83–0.97) for 2, 4, 6, and 8 cups/day, respectively, compared with individuals with no coffee intakes. This meta-analysis provides quantitative evidence that consumption of coffee was inversely associated with the risk of hypertension in a dose–response manner.

>>12760569
https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/180/8/763/2739131
>Several studies have analyzed the relationship between coffee consumption and mortality, but the shape of the association remains unclear. We conducted a dose-response meta-analysis of prospective studies to examine the dose-response associations between coffee consumption and mortality from all causes, cardiovascular disease (CVD), and all cancers. Pertinent studies, published between 1966 and 2013, were identified by searching PubMed and by reviewing the reference lists of the selected articles. Prospective studies in which investigators reported relative risks of mortality from all causes, CVD, and all cancers for 3 or more categories of coffee consumption were eligible. Results from individual studies were pooled using a random-effects model. Twenty-one prospective studies, with 121,915 deaths and 997,464 participants, met the inclusion criteria. There was strong evidence of nonlinear associations between coffee consumption and mortality for all causes and CVD (P for nonlinearity < 0.001). The largest risk reductions were observed for 4 cups/day for all-cause mortality (16%, 95% confidence interval: 13, 18) and 3 cups/day for CVD mortality (21%, 95% confidence interval: 16, 26). Coffee consumption was not associated with cancer mortality. Findings from this meta-analysis indicate that coffee consumption is inversely associated with all-cause and CVD mortality.

> 3.5 cups a day
Thats a lot. And expensive...
Isnt it just another variation of rich ppl live longer?

>>12760600
This is from another study where they adjusted for income.
https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/45/6/1938/2731240

Btw, coffee is hardly a rich person thing

I see the resident caffeine addict is back at it again.
>I'm not addicted!
>It's actually good for you!!!

>>12760585
wait what
explain this one

>>12760600
>coffee is expensive
only if you buy the sugar filled garbage at coffee shops
brew your own

>>12760616
I have free coffee at work, but I hardly ever drink more than 250ml a day.
Some ppl prefer buying coffee as a treat. But buying 3 cups a day will cost you a penny.

>>12760640
Why do you even show up, toddler-palated dork? It's not like you ever addressed the research referenced in these threads. You just come to cry "a-addict" lol.
Go have some candy or ssomething

>>12760670
>I'm not addicted!

>>12760671
That's right, I'm not. And even if I were, I'm still healthier than you.

>>12760642
Explain what?

>>12760682
>I'm healthier than you!!

>>12760695
I hope you're false-flagging because this is embarrassing.

>>12760697
>I've been making caffeine threads all week
>I don't have a problem, you have a problem!

>>12760715
Cringe

Bump

>>12760650
most people just make it themselves... it's like 10 cents a cup

fucking love black coffee just how i love my trannies

>>12760365
>is there any study to see if the process to make coffee decaf also refuses the other i (beneficial) compounds?
After all the shit I have read through the years I don't believe anything that resembles nutrition science.
>X is good for you!
a few years later
>X is bad for you
and vice versa. I just go with my gut feel.

Interesting references out there.
I've heard that coffee is also good for brain health
But when you look at caffeine addicts, you don't really see coffee as healthy. If you drink lots of coffee that implies you are exhausting yourself to stay awake. This is not healthy behavior. So, all these findings seem counterintuitive.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20182054/
> The findings of the previous studies are somewhat inconsistent, but most studies (3 out of 5) support coffee's favorable effects against cognitive decline, dementia or AD. In addition, two studies had combined coffee and tea drinking and indicated some positive effects on cognitive functioning. For tea drinking, protective effects against cognitive decline/dementia are still less evident. In the CAIDE study, coffee drinking of 3-5 cups per day at midlife was associated with a decreased risk of dementia/AD by about 65% at late-life.

Caffeine as a protective factor in dementia and Alzheimer's disease - PubMed
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20182054/

>>12763063
but what is it about coffee that is good for you? is it caffeine specifically or all the thousand other compounds in coffee?

>>12760640
~85% of adults in the US consume caffeine daily. You're banging your head against a wall if you think you're going to get any type of objective study conducted on an addiction that almost everyone doing the search has.

>>12763063
>This is not healthy behavior. So, all these findings seem counterintuitive.
Literally
>my feefees > research

>>12763336
>nuh uh it triggeres my feefees so it be fake science :(
Toddler-palated cope is hilarious

>>12763665
Retards see a cliché of a tired jittery guy drinking coffee in movies/cartoons and conclude coffee is unhealthy and "totez like crack or something xd"

>>12763336
By this logic, you couldn't consider studies on cheese, vegetables, water sugar or anything most people consume objective research, you idiot. Why are anti-coffee shills so stupid?

Nutrition science isn't science. Cope.

>>12763722
Cope

Why are people itt so angry?

>>12760365
>is there any study to see if the process to make coffee decaf also refuses the other (beneficial) compounds?
There's a lot of such studies, with very mixed results. Some found decaf was just as good, others found that caffeine is required. No clue what to believe, but there's numerous processes for preparing coffee, which could be part of the problem.

>>12760640
Oh hey, I see the caffeine prohibitionist is back at it again.

>I hate caffeine despite study after study showing it's beneficial and not harmful!
>Stop consuming something I don't believe in!

>>12763823
I don't want prohibition. I just don't believe in using soience to justify your addicted delusions. If 85% of the population used heroin, you'd see study after study talking about how heroin is good for you, and it's not actually addictive. Case in point
https://news.yahoo.com/columbia-professor-uses-heroin-says-154331983.html
>Hart's work has shown that a drug like meth provides some short-term cognitive benefits, including better visuospatial perception, more sustained attention, and faster responses. The cognitive benefits of this stimulant use have long been known.
Well there you have it. Why aren't you using meth?

>>12763845
>Well there you have it. Why aren't you using meth?
Cool. If you can actually find a study showing long term benefits, then I'll say you have a point, because I've yet to see long term risks from coffee drinking, and we know that's not the case for heroin.

>>12763771
t. addicted

>>12763845
Let us know when meth is associated with lower risk of all-cause mortality, a higher life expectancy or neuroprotective effects, retard.

>>12763883
>find a study showing long term benefits,
You can find a study supporting every claim you want and its exact opposite. Science is broken.

>>12763883
He can only cope by calling us addicts despite having no idea what our habits are or how we react to coffee because he can't debunk any study referenced here.
I wonder what makes someone so mad at coffee.

How the fuck can you americans call that washed up shit coffee?

>>12763947
>You can find a study supporting every claim
So I'm asking you to find one showing long-term heroin use is beneficial, because I haven't been able to find out. Many substances are somewhat safe, maybe even beneficial in the short-term, yet they become damaging in the long-term.

>>12763990
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4939399/

>>12763721
Of those only sugar is addictive and guess what? Sugar studies have a history of being full of shit.

>>12763990
OOPs, I read meth instead of heroin. Nevermind. Heroin is good for you.

>>12764037
>an ad
You're pathetic. See >>12763942

>>12764037
Yes, more of the potential short-term benefits we're aware of, but even doctors are becoming hesitant to prescribe opioids because of the detrimental long-term effects.

>>12764003
>It will be fundamental to understand how prolonged use of METH will convert such “positive” effects on neurogenesis and synaptic plasticity into the well known dysfunctional effects that strongly impair cognitive performance in METH-addicted subjects.
They literally admit that cognitive performance is dysfunctional in meth addicts. You can't stop embarrassing yourself. Let me know when you find a meta study involving 3,850,000 subjects and associating meth consumption with decreased risk of all-cause mortality.

>>12764031
>sugar
>addictive
Kek, lardass excuse. Most thin people eat sugar, we just can into moderation.

>>12764058
>Let me know when you find a meta study involving 3,850,000 subjects and associating meth consumption with decreased risk of all-cause mortality.
When Nestlè starts selling meth.

>>12764048
An ad and a nutritional science study are basically the same.

>>12762747
Cringe

>>12764058
you're missing the point between addicts that ingest mega doses recreationally and long term treatment with microdosages under supervision. there is no medicine and there is no poison, only dosage.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0014579306007538
>We demonstrate that coffee extract, corresponding to an Italian Espresso, inhibits recombinant and endogenous 11β-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type 1 (11β-HSD1) activity.
>Next, we measured the effect of extracts from decaffeinated coffee on 11β-HSD1 activity and obtained an inhibition comparable to that of normal coffee extract.

This atleast partly explains many beneficial effects of coffee. Also caffeine really gets a bad rep unfairly through heavy misrepresentation of animal studies.

>>12768663
wait so coffee is good and the beneficial effects still exist in decaf?

>>12768891
Excellent! I expect to see all the coffee drinkers in this thread to immediate shift to purely decaf. Surely they're not addicted.

>>12768928
I'm the OP and I used to drink 12 (big) cups of black coffee a day
I quit cold turkey and had been off it for about 6 months
yesterday I got me some decaf beans and I like it.

>>12760600
Since when is coffee expensive? Pretty much everyone I know drinks at least 2 cups every day.

>>12769002
he thinks everyone gets their coffee at starcucks or something

>>12768928
Why would I? The caffeine in my coffee doesn't bother me so no need to go out of my way and get decaf coffee.

>>12769717
>The substance I'm addicted to doesn't bother me so I have no need to stop!
>What's that? All the benefits of coffee exist in spite of the caffeine, and not because of the caffeine?
>Ugh... I'm gonna keep drinking caffeinated coffee!
>I don't have a problem!

>>12769730
>addicted
Nope. Just don't need to get coffee that's been processed to get the caffeine removed.
>in spite of the caffeine
This implies that caffeine hinders those benefits which of course you have no proof of because you're a lying toddler-palated bitch.

>>12768891
>wait so coffee is good and the beneficial effects still exist in decaf?
Some, possibly not all. Caffeine has its own benefits. Also, there's different processes for removing caffeine, some of the solvents may pose some risk.

>>12769730
>What's that? All the benefits of coffee exist in spite of the caffeine, and not because of the caffeine?
This is quite false, fyi. There's a synergy between the caffeine and other components of coffee. Decaffeinated coffee hasn't shown any benefit in preventing or attenuating Alzheimer's, whereas regular coffee does.

>>12769751
He'll just reply by calling you an addict and go back to crying as he downs his choccy milk

>>12769767
Hey, don't hate on chocolate milk, it's damn tasty too! Have you ever put cocoa powder in your coffee?

>>12763801
They haven't had their coffee yet.

>>12769777
Ooh, I've done this. Pretty good.
Also done cold brews with some dark chocolate in with the grounds. I think that might be my favorite way.
I tend to use a lot more milk in my coffee than most, so it basically is chocolate/coffee flavored milk. . .

>>12760650
people buying coffee don't buy it by the cup.
Even the smallest cup from Starbucks is larger that a standard cup of coffee, which varies but is less than the customary cup.

>>12760365
perhaps you should look into the processES that are used to create decaffeinated coffee?

>>12769884
>Also done cold brews with some dark chocolate in with the grounds. I think that might be my favorite way.
Okay, I've gotta try that! I like a lot of milk in my coffee as well (or coffee in my milk).

>more than 2 cups/day to get positive benefits

How do you anons build up to that tolerance?

I usually can only stand to drink 1/4 of a cup before feeling the effects. In fact, a cup of coffee usually lasts me like 2 or 3 days.

>>12770460
I'm just not that sensitive to caffeine.

>>12769901
hahahshs look at him so le dumb he capitalized the last two letters in prcesses xDdd

why the hell is everyone so ass blasted in here

>>12770460
get decaf beans
or just drink more coffee, caffeine tolerance builds up really fast

>>12770460
Possibly a liver issue? I started drinking coffee because I found out caffeine helped my chronic headaches. A very weak cup would have me pissing like crazy within 30 minutes, an obvious cortisol/adrenaline response. It took me months to build up to 2-3 cups a day. Can't say I notice any benefit in terms of energy or clarity, but I've learned to enjoy the taste.

>>12773557
Manchildren

>>12760600
I just drink black instant coffee. It's maybe $7 a month and I drink an excessive amount

I always liked black coffee. I asked my dad if I could try some when I was 15 and I really enjoyed the taste a lot. I have never been a regular coffee drinker, but every so often I’ll drink it until I run out of filters and stop caring for another 8-15 months before I want randomly feel like drinking coffee again.

I mostly notice little effects unless I force myself to drink way more than normal. The only notable thing coffee does is make me take a shit, which is nice I guess to clear out everything. Although sometimes it does make me anxious/uncomfortable.

As far as alertness/waking up, I have never seen any huge boost from coffee. I used to drink a few cups before bed to wind down and I slept like a baby every night.

why is everyone ITT so obsessed with the color black? really makes you think...

Is coffee reddit?

>>12777188
no, but you are.

>>12777188
Yes. Coffee is literally the midwit drug.

>>12778910
Some of the most significant geniuses in history were coffee drinkers, to the point that some people have surmised that coffee supported the intellectual growth in the West. Not sure that I agree with that, but that should tell you how common coffee consumption has been among the great intellectuals.

>>12779004
>Some of the most significant geniuses in history were coffee drinkers
I know that. Midwits saw coffee as the genius drug and started drinking it in the hope of becoming geniuses themselves. Obviously it didn't happen. As another example of the manner in which coffee consumption takes hold in a society let's look at Italy. In Italy coffee was consumed by well off people, it was essentially a status symbol, then as it became more affordable the lower classes began drinking it until it was so commonplace that it is now seen as a national symbol. Coffee is a hell of a drug, for midwits and poorfags.

>>12779004
Some of the most significant geniuses of the world (Neumann, Feynman, et al) were alcoholics. Doesn't mean you'll be a genius if you drink alcohol.

>>12779200
So you basically meant coffee is a drug for everyone? You can't exclude the people who hurt your argument (the rich and intelligent still love coffee as well).

>>12779212
>So you basically meant coffee is a drug for everyone?
Not for me. I'm not a cretin.

>>12779210
>Doesn't mean you'll be a genius if you drink alcohol.
I said I doubted the theory, but it wouldn't even be a theory if many intelligent people weren't drinking coffee.

>>12779217
>I'm not a cretin.
Well you play a very convincing one then. Perhaps you should become an actor.

>>12779218
I know, I was just expanding on it for the caffeine addicts ITT.

>>12779221
You are an addict. Just admit it.

>>12779240
I don't drink anything but water you fool.

>>12779255
Laced with caffeine, I'm sure.

>>12779217
You're just a toddler-palated subhuman.

>>12780000
And you partake in passive sodomy.

>>12780029
Cope. Quads of truth already took a shit on you, subhuman.

>>12780042
>t. has to drink coffee just to stay awake

>>12780052
I drink coffee before sleeping.

>>12780060
And when you wake up
and before going to work
and at work
and before lunch
and after lunch
and before going home
etc. etc.

Congratulations, you are an addict!

>>12780080
>you're an addict if you drink something you like and doesn't harm you
Cope

>>12780080
I drink 3 cups per day. Is making up fictional scenarios the only way manchildren can cope?

>>12780115
>I drink 3 cups per day
addict

>>12780123
>you're an addict if you drink something you enjoy and doesn't harm you
cope

>>12780134
>doesn't harm you
t. Nestlè

>>12760365
Yes, the acrylamide is still present after the decaffeination process.

I have never been affected by caffeine.

>>12780060
You realize you can only drink coffee before sleeping because you've built up a tolerance due to addiction right?

>>12780080
I eat three meals a day I am addicted to food.

>>12780630
Not that anon but I never drink coffee because I don't even like it so I don't see the point, but I could still sleep after drinking it no problem back in the days when I some times happened to drink an espresso
>inb4 samefag

>>12780646
>Food == caffeine
>if I don't eat I die
>If I don't get my caffeine I'll literally die
>I-I'm not an addict!
>t. addict

>>12780727
Coffee is food.

>>12780683
>Back in the day I consumed caffeine regularly
>During this time I could take the stimulant caffeine right before sleeping!
>I-I-I wasn't an addict Anon, I swear!

>>12780738
>0 calorie liquids are food
>I need this 0 calorie liquid whose only purpose is caffeine to function
>Nay, I say! This is food. I need it to survive!
>t. addict

>>12780748
It's delicious the reason I need it is because it tastes great and I love it. Also it is a magical drink with strong spiritual properties.

>>12780756
>I feel exceptional when I take this drug
>Addiction has nothing to do with it!

>>12780775
I feel exceptional when I eat chicken tendies too.

>>12780782
So you're an autistic addict.

>>12780794
Food makes me feel good.

>>12780798
I'll bet it does.

>>12780811
sauce

>>12780811
Not that much food bro.

>>12780630
>>12780727
>>12780740
>>12780748
>>12780775
>>12780794
What a pathetic faggot. Not only he has the palate of a toddler but since he can't address any of the studies showing that coffee drinkers are healthier, all he can do is cry "a-addict" over and over again.

>>12780630
Lol, make up your mind, you stupid piece of shit. Either I need coffee to stay awake or I built up a tolerance to it.

>>12782667
What makes him so angry at coffeechads?

>>12782667
Sneed.
>>12782691
You drink coffee in the morning to feel awake. You can drink it before sleeping because you've built a tolerance. These two statements are not in contradiction. Your addict-addled brain is having trouble accepting you're an addict.

>>12782667
(You)

>>12782755
This makes no sense, fat subhuman manchild. When I drink my last cup of the day is when there is the most caffeine in me.

>>12782822
>My addict-addled brain doesn't understand half life

>>12782713
Having the palate of a toddler. He'd ask for a glass of orange juice with a squiggly straw at a cafe while everybody else orders adult beverages... if he had friends to go with.

>>12782868

>>12782886
>gastrointestinal disturbance
Lower rates of stomach cancer and healthier gut flora you mean

>>12782899

>>12782852
There's no "half-life" when you drink an increasing amount of coffee, babby brain/palate

>>12782920
>See! It's maximal caffeine at night because I keep drinking coffee! I don't have a problem!

>>12780727
You don't need donuts to live, or hamburgers, or a steak, or a salad, or pretty much any specific food. By your idiotic logic, anyone eating an orange must be addicted to it considering you can live without oranges.

>>12782969
>Oranges are good for you!
>So is coffee!
>There's no difference!

>>12782949
Not maximal, just more than when I start my day, fattie.

>>12782980
Did your fellow yoga moms make you this scared of coffee, Karen?

>>12782982
>If I call him fat people won't realize I'm still an addict!

>>12782993
>If I call him Karen, people won't realize I'm an addict.

>>12782996
>>12783004
You are a fat fuck and pretty much a woman.

>>12782980
Moving the goalposts, fattie.

>>12783128
>>12783139
(You)

>one side posts studies
>the other posts soccer-mom-tier memes
Rlly mks u think...

>>12783238
Nah, the coffee drinkers already got BTFO'd earlier regarding meth and heroin studies. They don't care, because you can never change an addict's mind. So it's more accurate to say
>one side posts study showing benefits of caffeine
>other side BTFO's them showing similar studies exist for meth
>original side doesn't give a shit
>other side continuously mocks original side

>>12783253
Except you never post a study showing that meth users have lower incidence of all-cause mortality or a study showing that coffee drinkers have the damage of meth users. In fact, the only study you googled in a hurry admits meth users have neurological damage, you stupid faggot lol

>>12783253
See
>>12764058

>>12783253
You really dont understand the false equivalency here? You really sound like you do not know much about what you are arguing about.
Even if you're right.

>>12783276
He's a retard. All he found was a study that said meth users may have improved memory for a while and then admits meht users eventually have problems with cognitive performance. He posted only one study that undermines his point on top of that.
I referenced a meta-study involving close to 4 million subjects and associating coffee with lower risk of all-cause mortality.

>>12783265
>>12783274
>>12783276
>>12783304

>>12783304
>I referenced a meta-study involving close to 4 million subjects and associating coffee with lower risk of all-cause mortality.
""""""""""""""""""""study""""""""""""""""""""
Remember, there is no such thing as nutrition science.

>>12783398
Cope.

>>12783398
/sci/
Rejects 99% of studies on no good reason.
Cool study, bro.

>>12783446
Why should I trust "nutrition science". The record is abysmal.

>>12783470
Agreed. I accidentally tagged the wrong comment. Meant to tag
>>12783304
Their prized meta-study rejects 99% of the studies for no good reason.

>>12783484
>Their prized meta-study rejects 99% of the studies for no good reason
Says whom?

>>12783506
Says the study itself. Did you not even read it? Retard.

>>12783523
So? Find a meta study supporting the opposite of this one. Go ahead, moron.

>>12783536
that's not how science works, pseud. The meta-study is trash.

>>12783550
Right, feefees > science

>>12783558
I read the study (apparently unlike you). I didn't see any justification for why they rejected those titles or abstracts. Why don't you find that reason?

>>12782852
>My addict-addled brain doesn't understand half life
If you take into account half life, that anon is entirely correct, blood levels of caffeine will be highest shortly after the last cup of the day.

>>12760642
More coffee, more better health

>>12783253
>Nah, the coffee drinkers already got BTFO'd earlier regarding meth and heroin studies.
You never posted a heroin study, you also got BTFO'd in a different thread so you decided to shit this one up.

>>12760365
All baking creates acrylamide. Ditch coffee and do all your cooking in a pressure cooker / (reheat in the) microwave.

>>12787096
are you implying the ONLY beneficial compound in coffee is acrylamide?

>>12787096
>acrylamide
there's scientific proof that acrylamide can damage the male reproductive organs

Lol why should I care about an addiction that has no negative effets?
I drink tea. I consume about 500mg of Caffeine a day. So what?

>>12787841
No, read the post by the other anon. If you must get a caffeine fix, you should make your own chocolate from raw cacao.

>>12787940
did I talk about caffeine?
coffee has around a thousands different compounds

>>12787951
So does human faeces.
Many of which are beneficial, long and short term.

>>12787900
> reduced blood flow to the brain
> perform worse on memory-based tasks
> cortisol
> adrenaline
> tolerance issues
> withdrawal symptoms
Dude, get a fucking grip.

>>12788076
>> reduced blood flow to the brain
Nope, coffee has been associated with lower CVD rates at 3-5 cups.
>> perform worse on memory-based tasks
Nope, coffee improves cognitive function and is neuroprotective.
>> cortisol
>> adrenaline
Not my problem, I feel fine after coffee.
>> tolerance issues
Most people drink a regular amount of coffee throughout their lives. And I don't drink it for the caffeine anyway.
>> withdrawal symptoms
Not my problem if some guy has a headache for a few hours. I feel fine.

Furthermore, you willingly ignored the meta-study associating coffee with lower risk of all-cause mortality.

>>12787975
Lol, you're pathetic. Poop-filled rivers are a health hazard. You're comparing infectious body depositions to a drink associated with lower risk of all-cause mortality.

>>12760551
Ray Peat thinks it's the copper, which helps to chelate iron.
https://raypeat.com/articles/articles/iron-dangers.shtml

>>12788186
This is maximum cope if I've ever seen it.

>>12788186
This. We have enough human and animal studies at this point to know that coffee is neutral at worst, and probably a net positive. What's odd is that certain people are getting so angry that others drink it. Even if coffee was a health hazard (and it's not), what business is it of anyone else's whether someone drinks it?

I like how OP specifically asked about decaf and 85% of the thread is NPCs reciting their programming about caffeine.
Even a 2 sentence OP is tl;dr tier for nu-internet.

>>12789179
You just show a picture that calls a certain topic and then the NPCs spout their memes regardless of relevance or context.
It's like hypnotizing a group of chimps with a blinking light.

>>12789179
>I like how OP specifically asked about decaf and 85% of the thread
The decaf point has already been answered multiple times. It only turned to the general points about coffee after the same troll that shows up in every thread started fuming about addiction.

>>12789179
OP isn't seeking objective information.
He's seeking validation for being an addict.
All the people ITT shitting on him see through his farce.
If you need proof, look now further than the lack of meaningful responses to this
>>12783446
It BTFO's OP so hard, that he doesn't even have coffee-ladled dogma to counter.

>>12789204
It doesn't btfo anyone, you stupid whore. A meta-study with 40 studies and almost 4 million subjects is ample evidence. Thry can't include every single study in the meta-study. You've yet to post a sibgle study showing that coffee is bad for health. Not only you have the palate of a toddler but you're statistically less healthy than coffee drinkers. The burden of proof is on you.

>>12789179
Probably because a toddler-palated retard shows up to cry by calling everyone a caffeine addict every time coffee is discussed.

>>12789430
>>12789434
schizo tier lol.
>40 posters ITT
>everyone who calls me out for bullshit is the same person

>>12789430
Furthermore, assuming that the excluded studies were excluded arbitrarily to portray coffee in a good light, that would leave like four thousand studies to choose from and prove that coffee is harmful yet the coffee-hating retards itt are yet to post a single study of the tenor of the meta-study posted here.

>>12789430
>>12789434
>I-I'm not an addict!
>You only don't drink coffee because you lack the palate to appreciate it!
>I appreciate the fine coffee... But not because I'm an addict!

>>12762747
I like my coffee how I like my trannies too.
Ground up and in the freezer.

>>12762747
>>12789678
I also like my coffee like i like my trannies: non-existent.

>>12789684
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to appreciate tranners and coffee

i quit just for my anxiety.

i have panic disorder. i used to wet the bed and collapse on the floor during interviews. i couldn't get a boner because i would panic every time i tried to have sex.

i still enjoy a nice cup now and then but daily use defeats the purpose. you just become a nervous wreck after a while. it's not good to take any drug everyday. coffee, weed, alcohol, tobacco. you gotta take breaks.

the best aspect of caffeine abstinence is time dilation. drinking coffee all day makes the day seem short, it flies by. if i don't have any coffee i feel like i have an extra hour or two of time in the day. don't know why that is. only other drug that changes my perception of time is weed and high psychedelic doses.

>>12789684
>trannies
Why do you call testicles "trannies"?

>>12763063
retard

>>12790503
Not that guy but what's the retarded part about his post?

>>12760365
>is coffee good for you
kek

>>12790546
where's my fat-arsed roastie goddammit!?
I feel gypped

the anti-coffee posters itt are such colossal faggots I'm considering taking up drinking coffee

>>12769875
i chuckled

>>12790806
sounds like a personal problem.
>waah, someone called out addicts
>now i want to get addicted myself
do you realize how fucking stupid you sound?

>>12790987
>do you realize how fucking stupid you sound?
Do you realize how stupid you sound? Everyone in this thread is dumber for participating, including myself.

>>12790999
good. Hopefully you'll stop making these cancerous cope threads then. Faggot.

>>12791006
>Hopefully you'll stop making these cancerous cope threads then.
Not me, but you realize you don't have to participate, right? It's disturbing how angry you're getting over this.

>people posting actual studies showing that coffee is a benign beverage
vs
>angry toddler-palated bitch crying "a-addict" the whole thread

>>12791024
How else will the toddler cope? It's either sperging out like this or stuffing his obese face with candy.

Is coffee actually unironically good for you? I thought it was addictive, made you more anxious and was bad for your digestive tract.
t. retard

>>12760551
Reminder studies aren't science
Also you didn't answer op, coffee tranny

>>12762747
>>12789678
>>12789684
>Study finds link between coffe and trannies
Get in here boys we cracked the case

>>12792273
>>12792273
Coffee raises testosterone in men. You just can't stop embarrassing yourself, retard.

Plus women are biologically more inclined to have a sweet tooth and dislike bitter things. Trannies want to be women, why would they want to drink a bitter beverage that is more consumed by men (and raises testosterone in them)?

>>12792422
>58 posts by this id

>>12792453
There are no id's on /sci/