/sci/ - Science & Math

Fuck boing and fuck urf

>>12774598
Sheboon space an sheeit look toob

HOP WHEN

when does it end?

>>12774606
Never. Space is racist.

>>12774598
based, fuck straight white men.

>>12774598
Looks like /sfg/ is going to be right, the James Webb Telescope will never launch! The Name TBD Telescope will be launched though!

>>12774616
>would you fuck me?
>I'd fuck me
>it puts the puberty blockers in the basket

>>12774606
Everytime someone says hop when it gets delayed another hour.

>>12774616
oh god it's her

>>12774619
>name it the I Have Information That Will Lead to the Arrest of Hillary Clinton Space Telescope
>RUDs on the pad

>>12774603
why do they hate me? is it because I'm not a queer black queen?

I made a thing for /sfg/

https://youtu.be/lsnQOC1rlik

>>12774598
What will racing and transportation look like on Mars?
>No combustion engines for the two obvious reasons)
>little downforce
>1/3rd the gravity
>No medieval infrastructure dictating road networks
>giant fucking craters I mean it would be cool to have some banked giant circles but I don't want Mars to become Nascar country.

only RocketLab shareholders can respond to this post

>>12774611
Space has done more for black rights than Wakanda. Repent heathen
When are we going to get woke on exploring the stars?

>>12774634
t. queer black qween

>>12774634
> Unironically calling you a number
Based boing

>>12774636
Based. Simple as.

>>12774616
Look at the schnoz on this jewess, good Lord

>>12774634
How shit at coding do you have to be to get rejected by Boeing kek

>Musk was in Iron Man 2
Wait, what

>>12774638
Will hover cars become an actual thing?
I mean if you wanna cover some distance and with slow flying fixed wing as well as helicopters being kind of extremely handicapped, there is kind of only rockets and rovers. But then a rover would be relatively slow and rockets would be unreasonably high profile so something would have to fill that gap before they lay down and maintain a road or rail network.

>>12774664
Welcome to the new graduate job market, I didn't even get a coding test. Oh and I'm a Berkeley/UCLA grad.

>>12774634
put you pro-nouns as Zee, get hired immediately

>>12774638
I imagine something like Rally Paris-Dakar rather than Nascar

>thread immediately derailed by /pol/tard bait OP and more /pol/ bait shitposting (probably by OP himself)

why do I get coding challenges from fucking amazon but not the actual places I want to work at. I can't take much more of this AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>12774634
>Hello WMSS00000213829! We regret to inform you that we could not hire you, as you lack the necessary diversity required in this field of work.
>Instead, we have hired BFGF00000076931 instead!

>>12774697
wrong, take your meds

>>12774686
Dakar is extremely demanding on man and machine. A raid truck can easily cost you 250 grand and it's worn out after the event. Also during Baja Mexico there's been incidents (no joke) where the native population set up wires and other traps to demobilize these trucks to strip them for parts and money. (picrelated)

>>12774686
I misread that, I thought you meant that as a main mode of transportation. Just raid trucks

>>12774704
you're still shitting up the thread faggot

>>12774671
the atmosphere's fuck thin, I don't fucking think so.
>>12774638
let's not forget that crashes could be much more dangerous due to depressurization.
>>transportation
slow wagon convoys, then trains once you build infrastructure.
>>racing
NASCAR style races in highly banked track. You don't have much gravity, but you can make it. The need to basically drive in a circle turns it into NASCAR. Slightly faster convoys for spess dakar.

>>12774702
this x100 essentially

>>12774697
>>12774711
You're the one shitting up my thread. Fuck off.

>falcon failed due to excessive wear

ScrobX is finished and reusability is debunked once and for all

>>12774616
we have to start having our own clan tags

>>12774598
>Weinstein
>Walkowicz
lmao every single time

>>12774677
Topkek.
Laughing at zoomer struggles will never get old. Should have been a boilermaker in Boca mate.

>>12774724
time and time again the pol memes have been proven right despite our good intentions

>>12774598
Fuck earth, our ethnostate on mars will seperate and destroy the sjw element on earth

>>12774726

>>12774733
That's incredibly stupid. There is no poorer political position to be in than on a colony on a dead planet.

>>12774598
Talking about relevant politics is inevitable in space flight but this is just /pol/ bait from a literally who. Good job derailing before the thread even began OP.

>>12774725

>>12774747

>>12774740
I'm guessing you missed what's been going on at NASA over the past week? You're delusional if you think this CRT shit is limited to nobody journalists and doesn't permeate every relevant institution

>>12774747
Just be 60 years old with 40 years of experience in the field lololol

>>12774739
Kek wrong

>>12774740
Nothing like a good early derailment to bring in the schizos replying 500 posts deep.
The more the merrier I say.

>>12774698
I will pay you 60 (sixty) upvotes if you reply to email with nothing other than "fuck boing, fuck urf"

>>12774739
I'm sure that the british thought the same about the american colonies

>>12774770
I wish

>>12774740
nigger kike faggot spic tranny

>>12774771
The Commonwealth will rule the solar system. Screenshot this.

>>12774747
>>12774756
I got a job making $12 an hr in my field because they only value experience until you are higher up. Fuck boomers

>>12774770
also what the fuck is urf, I haven't been lurking for a few weeks

>>12774771
NA was practically a garden of eden. Martians have ZERO chance of surviving without supplies from earth.

>>12774774

>>12774781
Its a reference to a shitty will smith movie you Dumb faggot. Also its a meme thats years old so go be new somewhere else

The starship feels like the first step to ships that are constructed in space and never decent and just park in orbit. They would only fly between destinations and use starships only as ascent/decent vehicles.

The starship already does part of that since it can do in orbit refueling but it is still a multipurpose vehicle.

>>12774747
Have you considered becoming a pregnant immigrant veteran Muslim transsexual to get this job?
Without that sort of drive, I doubt you really want it.

>>12774747
>tfw got a decent paying job in a field im totally unqualified for simply by knowing the right people
I feel for you bro. But the reality is that it's all about who you know, not what you know.

>>12774713
Only do one application for one company wtf. If you copied and pasted your application over to tens of other job postings then they'll just bin the lot

>>12774783
Actually there should be enough there to become sustainable eventually

>>12774799
>eventually
Not strong at all.

>>12774797
these aerospace and defense boomers have different apps for the same position for every division and office, they encourage applying to multiple. They don't have a single generic "new grad" app like FAANG.

>>12774607
When you stand up and fight it

>>12774616
I remember one tinfoil guy working on a wormhole/zero point energy machine. We were kind of friends cause I was the only one not calling him crazy or throwing pebbles and shit at his house/car. One day his garage was emptied and he was gone. Car, house - all that stuff was there. I think I remember hearing about the cops looking for him.

The more time goes on and the more batshit like this image I see the more I think he might have actually succeed in his project and I somehow ended up in the fallout sent to the shitverse.

>>12774598
Space is already black, what more do these fuckers want?

>>12774712
The low gravity, low population density and lack of infrastructure would make mars compatible hovercars very attractive to look into for sure and since there's no roads or downforce, thrust would make viable solution to direction and speed changes.

I'm not sure if we'd be talking about "air" cushion, or actual hover technology with vertical thrusters. The later one would make more sense earlier on before routes were cleared of boulders.

>>12774791
Aero braking is free delta V

>>12774809
>> there's no roads or downforce, thrust would make viable solution to direction and speed changes
I don't fucking buy it anon. Show me you can get higher accelerations than Mars surface gravity. And if you can get a fraction of that thrust, why not just point your thrusters up to get more normal force for a car? Also, if you have a low population density, then there ain't too many people on the road and what do you really need all that acceleration for?
>>no roads
far as I can tell, ground effect vehicles don't fucking do well on rough surfaces and Mars is pretty fucking rocky. Sure, maybe they'll do better because the Reynold's number is lower, but I fucking doubt it. If ya ain't got ground effect, you don't have a hovercar you've got a helicopter. This is fine for moving some crap, but it's hard to beat the payload capacity of shit with wheels. If ya got big fucking domes and pressurized habs, an airbike would be fun. Like something in the shape of a motorcycle with a nice electric compressor that runs to a bunch of ducts for directing thrust every which way. A bunch of propellers pointed in various directions would work too, probably even better, but that'd look retarded. If you're gonna propose a hovercar for mars, show it has some worth. I'd start with seeing if the low Reynolds number makes it so you can get ground effect on rougher surfaces. Cause if you can go at comparable speeds as a plane, using less power than a plane then GEVs have worth.

>>12774616
This HAS to be a /pol/ sockpuppet right? This thing isn't actually real?

>>12774839
/pol/ hasn't had that amount of influence since 2016. Plus their sockpuppets don't work anymore because there are real people like this. Fucking coke had "be less white" in their corporate training program

Just checked in and heard about this Neutron thing

>Reusable first stage with landing legs
>Cool and based

>Looks and sounds like steel construction
>Cool and based

>Kerolox

Nigger why, you want to rip off all the good shit that will make starship cheap but won't be using methane? I hope to god they aren't trying to use fucking b*ttery turbopumps too.

>>12774794
Yeah, just say you are mixed race - 1% african/native, depending on your features
There are people who made a career by that little trick alone

>>12774864
Sup Tim, when are you gonna interview Peter Beck about his new rocket?

Screenshot this post: Neutron will launch before New Glenn

Come Home white man

>>12774875
Neutron doesn’t even have engines yet
Will New Glenn slip 2 years ?

>>12774878
new glenn has slipped a year and we haven't even seen it yet

>>12774873

>>12774877
>welcome to the prison planet

>>12774879
Because they haven’t started making flight hardware yet at Blue Origin
Nor do they’re engines work
Which is likely a step ahead of peter beck with his making up new rockets for fundraising reasons

>>12774888
I trust Samwise Gamgee more than I trust BO.

>>12774883
Very cool, looking forward to it

>>12774634
Airbus did the same to me lol, fuckers. The entire hiring process really soured my opinion of them

>>12774797
Maybe it's different in the US as there are more oldspace jobs and companies. In any case, are you networking on LinkedIn, are you chasing for feedback and are you tailoring your cover letter to each position?

>>12774888
They've launched rockets.

>>12774638
Combustion engines aren’t actually a horrible idea on Mars. There will already be huge chemical plants making oxygen and methane for starships. The energy density is far higher for those propellants than it is for batteries. If you need to go far or fast it makes sense to use chemical energy, not electrical.

Because there’s so little gravity and atmosphere, suborbital starship hops will be easier to do there too.

>>12774888
RocketLab has recovered more orbital boosters than Blue Origin has launched

>>12774901
They launched a small sat meme rocket and are now doing things totally different at 10 times the size

>>12774905
Blue Origin made a reusable sounding rocket, and tried to skip straight to a Falcon Heavy sized reusable HLV. They've been stuck in development hell ever since, and they just keep adding more dumb programs (like the National Team)

For all the fancy infrastructure and tooling Blue Origin has bought, they've never flown anything larger than New Shepard.

>>12774671
I think hover cars are more likely in places with thick atmosphere. The more dense the atmosphere is the more like boats your vessels will be (and less like airplanes).
On Mars and other low gravity/thin atmosphere worlds the optimal transport for people will be rockets. You could even potentially use jet packs for personal transportation!

>>12774905
They've achieved orbit, unlike some I could name.

>>12774838
no offense but you mistook both points (and I'm too tired to chew through them rn) find the contradictions yourself please (sry)

>checking news
>people are now calling for the US to deploy weapons in space
what changed?

https://breakingdefense.com/2021/02/us-needs-better-space-defenses-including-weapons-csis/
https://www.c4isrnet.com/battlefield-tech/space/2021/02/26/report-broadens-conversation-on-space-militarization-and-space-force-satellite-defense/

>If space is to remain a source of economic and strategic advantage, the United States must prioritize and expedite its efforts to improve space defenses. Robust space defenses make conflict in space less likely
nobody believes this, right?

>>12774920
China is going to militarize it anyways.

>>12774920
Who's going to be dumb enough to start a space conflict when the USSF has a squadron of 12 laser armed Starships carrying 80 tons of big fuck off tungsten rods?

>>12774920
>Robust space defenses make conflict in space less likely

Only in the sense that amerigolems get to enforce Jewish whims on whatever is going on in orbit.

>>12774920
Why wouldn't they believe the truth? Demilitarized space is a retarded boomer meme. Russia and China have both tested space weapons.

>>12774930
You're either gonna get your foreskin snipped by us or you're gonna get your kidneys snipped by the chinks, your choice.

>>12774926
Based foreign policy enforcer, quick drop those tungsten rods on the enemies of Israel because you know sure as shit you won't be using any of that hardware to protect America.

>>12774935
Sorry about your penis anon.

>>12774902
>>The energy density is far higher for those propellants than it is for batteries
it ain't much higher. Energy density of gasoline and oxygen is 13.3 MJ/kg. This sounds great, BUT internal combustion engines are 25% efficient at chemical energy to work, so in practice it's 3.325 MJ/kg. The best lithium ion batteries are 0.875 MJ/kg, we'll assume electric motors are 80% efficient, they can be higher, but we're being generous here, so the effective energy density is 0.7 MJ/kg. This is still less than gasoline + oxygen, but not having to carry around LOX might make batteries worth it. Having to carry your own oxidizer around and the efficiency really knocks internal combustion down a peg. However, fuel cells might make sense because the efficiency can be higher. Methane fuel cells exist.

>>12774936
build for war with China, but test in the sandbox – the American way

>>12774949
>BUT internal combustion engines are 25% efficient at chemical energy to work
Isn't Raptor so efficient that God himself sticking individual atoms together would only be slightly more efficient?

Just use Raptor powered rovers. It would be cool, it would be fast, and it would be efficient. Prove me wrong.

>>12774954
Just use fucking thermal jets.

>>12774952
Why would you go to war with China? Most Americans love cheap Chinese shit and internet nationalists don't have a say in foreign policy.

>>12774954
Rocket engines are cheating. At that point you might as well do suborbital hop races. Martian rallies will be battery electric vehicles.

>>12774966
>not modifying a V8 to run with LOX

>>12774918
Yes it’s good for them and everything
But they haven’t reused anything yet, and they’re engines are really undersized for a medium lift vehicle, and now it’s being built out of different materials

RocketLab has basically nothing for their next rocket so far, at least blue origin has the infrastructure to build their shit and test it

>>12774911
The dumb ideas Blue added really goes to show the state of the company
Selling engines before they have any surplus, to a literal direct competitor, and then joining some disgusting old space group who overbid so much that they won’t even get the contract...

>>12774954
cause then you have a rocket and the rocket equation says rockets suck.

>>12774968
You will be way behind on weight when you have to carry all that lox and the shit to keep it liquid over an extended period.

>>12774920
The first man made object to reach space was a Nazi ballistic missile test in 1944. Space has literally never not been militarized.

>>12774598
>12773254
titan has pretty much no radiation
>12774250
is that a globular cluster near the top left cliff

>>12774975
Just send electricuck cargo drones to deliver fuel

>>12774980
You don't get to do that on a rally

>>12774845
So what you're saying is that /pol/ was right.

>>12774988
We usually are. It's not exactly a happy feeling.

>>12774986
Well you do in my mars rally. You also get rocket boosters for sick jumps.

>>12774993
If you have supply trains running for you then the electrocucks will also have them with supercharged gigapacks waiting to go which swap out in ten seconds while you are holding you dick waiting for that cryogenic refill. The future dominance of electric vehicles is obvious, you can have your little mad max gas only league or something for the hicks down in Hellas to watch.

>>12774999
>you can have your little mad max gas only league or something for the hicks down in Hellas to watch
I will.

>>12775000
Based digits.

Mars wil use railcars
Making or shipping batteries to Mars is silly, they will only be used for off-roading. But all roads will have power transmission built in.

>>12774919
"Rotorcraft for Mars Scouts" design some helicopter probes which have a disk loading of 4 N/m^2. This is oh god, oh jesus, oh fuck low. Getting enough thrust to accelerate something like a car at more than Mars surface gravity, IE faster than we can accelerate with wheels, would require huge fucking props. Hovercars, therefore, seem ridiculous.

>>12775004
Based cattlecar enthusiast, you can also do your giga nigga speed shit right on the surface since air resistance basically doesn't exist.

>>12774988
Yes

>>12774747
That's what you get for using a macbook loser

>>12775024
On Mars, every railroad ends at a sealed gas chamber.

is that a globular cluster in the top left

>>12774988

>>12775031
Holy shit where’s this video from

>>12775034
From a comet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/67P/Churyumov%E2%80%93Gerasimenko

>>12775031
Yes

>>12775039
That’s cool as hell never seen that before
Are comets really so dusty that it looks like it’s snowing there?

>>12775034
>>12775039
This guy put them together.

https://twitter.com/landru79/status/988490703075463168

>>12775034
>>12775039
>>12775043
>>12775045
for scale the boulders are around 20 meters high, the cliff to the left is around 400 meters high

>>12775045
The background is just stars, the rest are dust and radiation striking the camera's CCD.

>>12775045
Probably just radiation hitting the image sensor.

How can there be fust without wind?

>>12775054
And this is a timelapse of around 30 mins

>>12775058
>>12775045
Its both dust, ice, and radiation

>>12775061
Probably excited by volatiles escaping the comet

>>12775061
the comet was partially active i think, there was some minor outgassing, enough to blow the dust and ice around

The transhumanist in me tells me it's easier to adapt humans to Mars than Mars to humans.

>>12775031
I want to live here. Alone.
I regret never telling that girl I liked her :(

>>12775071
>the jew in me

This sick shit is exactly what Ted was talking about

>>12775076
What is humanity anyway

>>12775071
>transhumanist

>>12775078
baby proonters

>>12774805
this would make a good short story

>>12775071
>It's easier to make humans breathe 0.fuckall atm of almost pure CO2, endure temperatures colder than Antarctica, filter out micron size cancer rape particles and love hard radiation than it is to build domes or tunnels

You're retarded

>>12774808
Blackholes will suck everything.

now that elden ring is a disaster, starship is the only thing keeping me from killing myself

Fuck. I just learned that this company shut down a year ago. I thought these inflatable capsules we're going to revolutionize space habitats. What happened?

>>12775138
What's wrong with Elden Ring? Haven't heard about it for ages.

>>12775155
The CEO was terrible. Employees were treated terribly. And they failed to secure a NASA contract.

>Musk laughed when told about Jeff Bezos’s timeline for engine
development. “Bezos is not great at engineering, to be frank,” he
said. “So the thing is, my ability to tell if someone is a good engineer
or not is very good."
kek

>Musk laughed when told about Jeff Bezos’s timeline for engine development. Bezos is not great at engineering, to be frank,” he said. “So the thing is, my ability to tell if someone is a good engineer or not is very good.
kek

>>12775136
Just like my ex

>>12775184
Your post is humorous, as it implies the woman you Sinned with was also cheating on you by fellating the penis of strangers.
Humorous, but not surprising, as Sin begets Sin.

>>12775155
It was supposed to fix the tiny dimensions of things send to space, but is obsolete with the starship and future in-orbit assembly techniques and technology.

>>12774969
Blue Origin has done fuck all
Rocket Lab is ahead

>>12775157
leaked trailer looks like dark souls 4. which is not totally unexpected but still disappointing. i hoped for a bit more

>>12775198
Wrong. Inflatables BTFO rigid-bodies

>>12775161
Bigelow is an absolute schizo who believes in alien abductions

>>12775214
>not believing in alien abductions

>>12775216
ayy hey i kinda want to anally probe you if you catch me drift lmao

>>12775216
If my dad "anal probed" me I'd escape inro fantasy too.

>>12775193
>as Sin begets Sin.
Keep your kike worship to a minimum here please. That old-school white guilt is a dead end

>>12775216
i want to fuck alien girls (legally)

>>12775219

>>12775227
Aliens don't have human rights.

>>12775210
proofs?

>>12775255
im an alien

>>12775261
There's the obvious factor of expanding to a much higher volume once it's been launched above the atmosphere, and they provide better protection against impacts and radiation due to the makeup of the material VS steel or aluminum.

>>12775214
Not believing in aliens is more schizo than believing in them now.

>>12774877
>Those aren't kids, they're ESA astronauts
Every time I see this image now.

>>12775255
Alien civilization implies alien justice system or something analogous.

>>12775280
>the justice system gives me my rights
ngmi

>>12775270
you can believe in aliens without wanting to be raped by one.

>>12775274
Noooooo
you can't insult us like this

>>12775274
Kek

>>12775283
Either way, you can see how much your rights protect you from Them.

>>12775255
My nigga fanatic xenophobe

>>12774963
Because the national security complex does actually give a shit about national security - it's their gravy train. Just because they've spent the decades following soviet collapse content to kick over sandcastles doesn't mean they're staying wilfully blind over the future threat an uncontained China presents to their power base.

>>12774598
Scientific American has been pozzed for like 20 years now, I dropped my paper subscription around 2001 or so, then a few years the editor was interviewed on Charlie Rose (remember him lol?) and he basically said as much that he made it go full retard global war man.
>>12775155
everything shut down when the meme virus happened
>>12775198
that just means we can send up bigger balloons now

>>12774667
He's had a couple of movie cameos

God I hate retards who act like Starship is a messiah

>>12774988
>Fucking 88
Yes. But is it really a good thing to be right about this shit?

>>12775380
Sorry Jeff

>>12774598
>stein

>>12775380
Don't dare bad-mouth the sacred cow in here.

>>12775380
/sfg/ has really gone into the deep end with Starship fanboy-ism and Musk worship

Reminder to lift weights and do cardio so you are fit.

>The last 2 threads were fucking kino
>This one is inspired by /pol/ and is absolute dogshit
Surprise surprise

>everything is exactly the same, retard. superiority is a racist myth

>>12775433

March 2021, I am forgotten.

>>12774616
I might be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure I read a paper where this 'person' to claimed that special relativity validated postmodernism due to the fact that there is no universal reference frame. She's a fucking loon.

>>12775407
No one mentioned your mom though?

>>12775442
Imagine being a Martian colonist and doing several ton deadlifts just because you can.

>>12775483

feel like pure shit, just want him back ;_;

>>12774896
> to bbc:
These fuckers don't even try to hide their love for black people.

>>12775492
That's a surprisingly common viewpoint. Popsci misunderstandings are worse than ignorance desu.

>>12775483
f

>>12775405

>>12774667
Canonically speaking, did Musk get snapped?

>>12774896
I remember I had to do those minigame psychometric tests when I applied for Airbus. Shit like solving puzzles and knowing which emotion goes to which face.

>>12775501
lol seeth harder.
Just blame others for your shortcomings

new poll
https://www.strawpoll.me/42726062

>>12775527
Your mom.

>>12775527
This is kind of a bs poll. Is this asking which body will best be able to have a self-sustaining colony given equivalent tech and assuming continuous resupply from earth until self-sufficiency is achieved? Or in real terms. Because the moon is obviously easiest and best for building up earth's orbital infrastructure, whereas titan and europa are by far the best for long-term resource development and self-sufficiency.

>>12774616
she gotta pay people to actually fuck her. and get them drunk before. heavily

>>12775542
>Because the moon is obviously easiest and best

>no atmosphere
>no water
>no aerobraking or convenient ISRU

>>12775570
It's right next to earth, delta-v doesn't matter

>>12775542
I think people will take the question as somewhat independent colony

Heres the real poll for today
https://strawpoll.com/5hk89ksu7

>>12775572

>>12775585
If they keep fucking up, Option 1 is super likely.
Everyone is losing patience.

>>12775527
>Inceladus
>but no Gaynymede
Apply yourself anon

>>12775589
like I said, moon is only best if we're talking about modern tech. We don't have scalable isru yet so the delta-v becomes immaterial because we are right next to our only fuel and launch facility.

Horseshoe Farm on Mars?

>>12775615
holy shit lol is that their blood?

>>12774607
When there's nothing left

>>12775618
yup. They're being farmed for their organic compounds. The reason it's blue is because they use hemocyanin, which uses copper as the oxygen-carrying component rather than hemoglobin.

>>12774988
So it seems, so it seems.

>>12775585
RocketLab at least can fall back and sell their already-working designs to third world countries aligned with the US. SLS is never getting canceled until it blows up on the pad and is touted as a NASA's biggest failure.
Everybody giving up is not realistic, that'd be the same as giving up the world to the chinese who don't care about those silly humanity things.
Astra is already bankrupt, no? It's almost as if they were already.

Picture of Amazonia-1 in space after deployment. Actually pretty cool, thank you pajeets.

>>12775609
There should be a test to use /sfg/, this is a travesty

>>12775615
>>12775621

>>12775618
Yeah horseshoe crabs are based. Their blood is harvested because it's a magical potion. It's used in a lot of medicine, specifically cancer treatments I think. I believe this doesn't kill them and they usually harvest their blood and let them live after (I think?).

>>12775641
>>12775639
I mean, that in terms of colonization, earth and all its resources are right there, so launching stuff from earth to the moon is less costly, and takes way less time to arrive. I already said that if distance was no object other places would be better.

>>12775638
Very nice, very cool

>>12775643
That's kind of Satanic

>>12775643
>we are literally vampires to another speicies
Why are humans so based? We can eat stuff that other animals think is poisonous for flavor, we practice species eugenics and enslaved several species for our own benefit, and now we literally harvest blood from lesser beings to cure our ailments. Is there any line that we won't cross to save ourselves?

>>12775615
>>12775643

>>12775625
Astra is going public (via a SPAC).
And I'm going to short them. Their business plan makes no sense.

>>12775656
We're also only one of (probably) three species that can understand music. The other two are many types of birds, and elephants (they dance)

>>12775649
Your argument is essentially "if I assume that colonization is impossible, then the moon is the best place to colonize". "ISRU tech doesn't exist" is retarded. ISRU is just a term for doing well understood Earth processes in other places.

>>12775620
Based memritvposter

>>12775654
Maybe they like it?

FUCK WHY DOES SCI HAVE SUCH FUCKING AUTISTIC FILE RESTRICTIONS

>>12775615
Is that their mouth or their ass?
Actually I don't want to know.

>>12775681
That's their back end, but it appears to have been cut in half for the blood to drain out

When will the rover start roving?

>>12775669
Every single space stock will remain a pumped meme stock until SpaceX splits Starlink and they can change positions. Longer than you can stay solvent, etc.

>>12775686
6 months to a year depending how fast they do their checks

>>12775672
wtf? I said this based on whether or not this was the first place we colonize or not. No other place makes sense as our first colony besides the moon.

>>12775678
My country isn't even allowed to post files.

Alright fuck it, even a 7 second WEBM is too much apparently. Have a photo collage instead WE GAAN

This thread is a fucking disaster. /sfg/ needs to decide if it wants to be about spaceflight technology, or just twitter screenshot discussion.

>>12775705
will mincing poses be mandatory on orion ships?

>>12775710
spaceX simulation of Titan lakes

>>12775710
When in doubt, post waifus

>>12775710
they should put in a filter that blocks you posting on any board but /pol/ if you've posted on /pol/ within the last 24hrs.

>>12775710
All generals eventually devolve into "epic memer" meta cancer, and its only worse that we've had so many blue balls about launches lately.

>>12775701
Colonizing without ISRU will never happen.

>>12775718
And then you realize that wouldn't change anything so you go back to r*ddit where you belong

https://spaceflightnow.com/2021/03/01/component-fatigue-caused-early-shutdown-of-merlin-engine-on-last-spacex-launch/

We are never going to travel the stars are we

https://twitter.com/benyahr/status/1366539599238029313?s=21

>>12775669
Based stock market internet crasher

>>12775743
>twitter shit
stop

>>12775743
yes sweaty, we still have to fix our problem here nuh-uh

>>12775743
Good thing capitalism never cared about their feelings in the first place.

>>12775705
That's a big rocket

>>12775738
Seems one of the parts just went too long without proper replacement. Funny how rockets work, even if 99% of things are good to go, one minor wear out can cause the thing to kaboom. Foust has a good article on it
https://spacenews.com/engine-shutdown-led-to-failed-falcon-9-booster-landing/

>>12775727
no shit, but being able to scale your ISRU rather than having to ISRU everything from the beginning is a lot easier on the moon than on titan or mars

>>12775743
>posts more (((literally who))) twats
all of you twitter assholes need to go back already

>>12775743

>>12775743

>>12775756
>hurr durr is jus randum ppl dey don matter weeeeeeeee

>>12775754
The Moon barely has any resources in situ to utilize. This problem compounds as inability to refuel massively restricts payload to the surface, meaning that the effective round trip d/v hit of going to the Moon is actually significantly worse than Mars.

>>12775762
>hurr durr is jus randum ppl dey don matter weeeeeeeee

Yes

TONIGHT, AT 7:53 PM EASTERN TIME, STARLINK 17 WILL ONCE AGAIN TRY WITH ALL HER MIGHT TO REACH THE STARS.

THE PRIESTS OF NEPTUNE AND VULCAN ARE IN DISAGREEMENTS WITH EACH OTHER ABOUT THE CAUSES OF THE DELAY. CITIZENS ARE ADVISED TO DEDICATE SACRIFICES TO BOTH, IF THEY ARE ABLE.

TOMORROW, STARSHIP SNX WILL DARE TO TOUCH THE HEAVENS AND LAND IN THE LATEST FLIGHT TEST. AUGURIES WILL BE TAKEN TO ENSURE GOOD OMENS AND A SUCCESSFUL FLIGHT.

THIS LAUNCH UPDATE WAS PROVIDED BY BOEING
TRUE AMERICAN TRAGEDIES! FOR TRUE AMERICANS!

>>12775762
Yes

>>12775782
>Pew research center
I thought they just did religious surveys? Interesting though
>>12775776
We can sacrifice starliner for this test, Neptune willing

>>12775776
>two attempts at the same day
Ave, we shall make double the sacrifices to Neptune so that they shall succeed.

>>12775767
>>12775782
Fine, keep playing dumb, just don't be surprised when NASA's greatest accomplishment this decade is convincing SpaceX to let a disabled bipoc tranny hitch a ride on a lunar Starship mission

>>12775776
Finally, a good fucking post.

>>12775807
They landed on mars 2 weeks ago. Actual brainrot.

>>12775807
Fuck, even if you're right, what does sharing this bullshit do? It just gives it more power.

>>12775776
thanks rome man

>>12775814
FUCK and to think I hyped myself up for years thinking we would have audio of this landing, only for it to crap out. This is why they should try to land the skycrane and have it upload its own data. I know it wouldn't be easy—but it wouldn't be impossible

>>12775814
Newfriend isn't aware that they already did the exact same thing 9 years ago

>>12775820
why didnt they just use a microphone lol

>>12775831
Are you a tourist? No offense intended, just curious. They have a working microphone on this mission. It tried to record but there was an overflow of data and it didn't save during the landing. Makes me so irate because we were supposed to be able to hear all of the engines firing and dust getting blown around and stuff.

>>12774664
The worst part about applying for Boeing is that they take fucking FOREVER to respond back to an application. I'm talking about literal months.

>>12775840
>there was an overflow of data
Should have used an SSD

>>12775824
>Curiosity
>Exact same as Perseverence
Funny how /sfg/ complains about journos, then has the same misinformed opinions as them.

>>12775492
it's always an intersection of things that fit the narrative but never the things that don't fit the narrative

If we assume that that take is valid then white exceptionalism and white colonialism becomes valid as well. Suddenly, you being bullied into paying reparations and kneeling for slavery is not logical because there is no universal frame of reference or ultimate Truth, including even the claim that the slavery was a bad thing and that you need to atone for it. Well from your personal reference frame as a white individual it wasn't bad, it was in fact good, and objective morality does not exist and the church is evil and turning the other cheek is stupid as well, so why the fuck should you bother with validating SJW whining any further if this was really the case?

These postmodernists do not understand what they're playing with. It is precisely universal moralities that allowed them to become what they are right now. You remove objective laws from western nations and suddenly you wake up in the cotton field again. The french revolution and its enlightenment was not a modernist or postmodernist revolution, contrary to what people tend to think. It was a romanticist attempt to come up with something new and in its failure, it proceeded to simply revert to a full blown empire. The failure to understand this is what will lead to the downfall of progressivism and the overthrow of postmodernism.

>>12774634
>>12774896
Whats your background?

>>12775814
So when will the drone fly?

https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1366752712801595400
>A dearMoon spokesperson says the update from Maezawa will come this afternoon (i.e., the morning of March 3 in Japan), although exact timing is subject to change.

>>12775866
Any speculation? Will it be good or bad. He might announce a lottery to get aboard? He might lay out his plan to launch on dragon and dock with Straship, zip around the moon, then take dragon back down to Earth for safety? Or sadly he might say he has cancelled?

>>12775875
If he announces plans for a lottery it is our duty to all spam it and try to get one /sfg/ anon aboard.

>>12775875
He bought out SpaceX and is cancelling Starship development to focus on issues on Earth that really matter

>>12775814

>>12775875
Maybe he'll announce all the epic celebs that have agreed to join him

>>12775848
You only mentioned the landing which yes, was literally the same technology. If you want to include the rover too, it's largely the same but with updated instruments and wheels plus a little helicopter. If that's your idea of a great accomplishment then you've made my argument for me

>>12775705
Whats inside?

>>12775684
They're actually being bent in the midsection and had the ligament between punctured.

>>12775886
Stay mad chang

>>12775866
Aka waiting on Elon to be ready cause he's always busy with work. LMAO.

>>12775902
Honestly he's not wrong. Nothing about this rover is groundbreaking. Sure it's nice to have another one there but I don't feel like it will find anything amazing.

>>12775615
We have synthetics horseshoe blood, but its not approved in FDA yet

>>12775893
So far that cygnus-looking thing is just the part that holds the pellets so I won't model it. Up top I will add the actual hab section (I might to docking ports with starships and inflatable habs attached).
I really want to learn how to use Blender though and have this thing fully rendered and animated. Are you familiar with the youtube channel Mustard? I've talked to him before about his video making process and he uses the same programs I use to make his videos so I'm looking to do the same thing. End goal is to have a video with the thing firing nukes out the back, with a tour of the inside. But alas it will take like a year of learning how to use blender.
https://youtu.be/twwDv7jjjfw
Example video of his, and what my Orion ship video would look like

>>12775907
I'm sure it'll discover something kinda neat that the NASA press machine will hype up as yet another overblown "Evidence of past water discovered on Mars" story

>>12775907
>If it's not groundbreaking it's nothing
Exactly the kind of journo mentality I'm calling him (you) out for. Thanks for putting it on full display.

>>12775643

Sorry bud. I don’t think it looks like your friends get to crawl away from this particular procedure

>>12775743
>these jew assholes have the same rights as you

>>12775907
The next step is obviously a manned Mars mission. We're just waiting on the vehicle.

>>12774598
Why does it take four people to write such an article?

>>12775846
>The worst part about applying for Boeing is that they take fucking FOREVER
doing anything

>>12775927
They're policing each other to make sure no one is hurt by this article.

>>12775877
I will volunteer to go on behalf of sfg

>>12775625
>third world countries aligned with the US
So there's hope for the British space programme after all!

>>12775880

>>12775923
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYb9kSCkjE8

>>12775907
MOXIE is interesting

>>12775935
pls no bully

>>12775935
we have two (2) spaceports now
>with no vehicles
>*cries with shame*

>>12775776
>7:53
>17
>Arabic numbers
Someone burn this heretic

Dubs and SN10 crashes in a fiery explosion, thus ending the Starship program for good

>>12775956
https://cornishstuff.com/2021/02/24/space-tourism-from-cornwall-would-send-wrong-message/

The absolute state of this country desu

>>12775963
Singles and you suck my dick

>>12775964
A British car show has a better space program than the British government

>>12775964
this is kind of why i get virgin orbit and aurora. you can launch from pretty much anywhere and nimbys can go out the airlock.

>>12775946
MOXIE is a symptom of oldspace inability to plan coherently and holistically.
>no one in their right mind would choose a region without ice access as a primary site
>humans need water to survive
>water to fuel ISRU is a necessity for colonization
>this process provides all the oxygen you need
Alright, so how are we going to generate oxygen?
>well I have a more complicated, more expensive, less efficient method to split co2 directly instead
>fund it

>>12775964
>Cllr Brown said: “Absolutely correct, it was never an intention that we would do space tourism, it has always been about small satellites, low orbit launches monitoring climate change and that sort of thing.

So SN10 flying today or what?

>>12775984
No earlier than Wednesday.

>>12775952
>>12775956
>>12775964
It's good that we can laugh at ourselves. Seriously though, I'm almost tempted to start a fucking rocket company myself the situation is so utterly pathetic.

>>12775992
your competition would be a few hobbyists with websites from the 90s. it would be embarrassingly easy to do a suborbital launch and reap the grants that would flow afterwards.

>>12774667

Must've been a ethereal moment for Robert Downey Jr. to basically play Iron Man and then meet the man who the character is written off of (for contemporary reference).

>>12775743
The proper response comes in multiple calibers.

>>12774667
I've always wondered what the fuck is up with Musk's outfit here. Saltwater taffy core?

>>12774739
You're correct, which is why I want off of this dead planet in order to start a vibrant new life on fertile Mars.

>>12776000
4ASS first launch!

>>12774779
It technically already does, since Earth is the only inhabited planet so far.

How will I ever recover from NASA not selecting this for a mission. Instead we just got a fucking Mars probe. In two short ears we couldve had a boat on Titan.

>>12775976
Its a popsci stunt

>>12776020
The commonwealth doesn't even rule itself

Elon inspecting some debris

>>12776000
Cornwall would unironically not be a bad place if one could find a friendly farmer. Develop in a shed away from populated areas, then truck it to the coast for launch from an offshore barge to subvert launch restrictions etc. Plenty of fishing boats that would take you a way offshore. Sadly I'm in Sussex

>>12776024
You don't want to go down this rabbit hole anon, it only leads to pain. There have been some fucking based NASA proposals, many of which have made it past the preliminary phase, only to be thrown out in favor of stupid asteroid missions and Mars orbiter #1582163

>>12775968
Let's see it then

>>12776031
Do you think he actually understand any of the engineering or is he fake

>>12774791
Regardless of whether they land or not they still need to be able to do a controlled aerobraking maneuver at Earth and Mars. The only option to get away from aero-capable designs is to develop propulsion systems with at least three times the stage delta V capacity of Starship's methalox system. At that point, with a vacuum Isp of around about 1100, you can build a vehicle with a reasonable wet dry mass ratio of 80% propellant that will be able to haul the same amount of cargo back and forth between Earth as Starship. That's just how helpful aerobraking really is. Doing everything propulsively is shitty, and the small gains you can make by not having thermal protection and by making everything out of tinfoil do NOT outweigh the benefits of being able to scrub off literally 8 km/s for free.

>>12776024
You can't, I can't, either. This is far from the first time, either. Thankfully it seems the market will push NASA missions out of their scientific monopoly

>>12776037
from all the testimony I can find, he at least puts lots of effort into learning the engineering.

>>12776037
Just a conjecture: but he probably knows less specific stuff than a 30-something year old engineer who has worked on multiple projects, but he knows more than that same 30-something year old about planning, realistic goals, marketing, and gathering multiple opinions and making correct choices. Elon’s strength is that he is smart enough to know what the fuck is going on and then some. Contrast that to someone like Bezos who is rich as fuck but probably shows up to meetings once a year, just asks his engineers what they think and how much it costs, and says “uhhh okay here’s $2 billion make it happen pls!”

>>12776055
Elon says the same about Bezos

>>12776058
Kek I guess I nailed it. Musk definitely couldn’t design something like a merlin or a falcon rocket by himself, but he is smart enough to look at a graph or and equation or a design and say “this won’t work. What if we tried this?”

Tom Mueller during the falcon 1 days.
They used windows xp lol

>>12775643

>I believe it doesn't kill them

Negative. It kills them. They're drained so significantly, they become lethargic when released back in the wild and become easy prey for predators. Additionally, most of those that are harvested are females (because they are bigger and have more blood). This in turn leads to an overwhelming skew where there are less females in the wild, and its driving their species into endangerment. The rate of harvest is significant, and they will likely go extinct within our lifetime.

I know WHY its being done, and their blood from a medical perspective is unlike anything else on this world; in terms of its value for saving human lives. But the harvesting practice is unsustainable.

We as a species are literally tearing a golden egg laying goose apart bit by bit to get to the batch of gold eggs that don't fucking exist; because the goose is magical, not some thing inside it that has gold eggs.

>>12776063
Musk has said that he probably knows more about rocket than anyone. Having the ability to recall any part of a rocket from engine to hull to life support to any structure in the rocket. I don't know if his rocket engine knowledge is deeper than 30 year old rocket engine designer, say like Tom Meuller (Merlin engine), but I wouldn't be surprised if its close enough.

>>12776068
>If only you knew how rad things really are

>>12776063
Elon is the lead engineer on Raptor just as much as Mueller was to Merlin. I know people don't accept this because it doesn't fit their preconceived notions but no insider has actually challenged it, much to the contrary.

>>12776031
>Elon autistically separating his LEGO into little piles by brick type

>>12776083
this was the only correct way to do lego btw.

>>12776087
Based organized efficiency anon

>>12776076
Are they impossible to farm or something?

>>12774801
Mars will be fine for colonizing, the challenge will be equivalent to what settlers of North America faced because even though the environment is much more harsh, the technological capabilities are ahead by centuries of exponential advancement.
Settlers on Mars will literally never have crops fail due to weather.
Settlers on Mars will never suffer from diseases caused by shitty living conditions and vitamin deficiencies.
Settlers on Mars will never freeze to death in particularly cold winters.
The challenges that Mars settlements will face will be of one of two categories; Trying to increase energy production, and trying to find and extract elements from Mars itself. It's really just a matter of getting the right 'seed' hardware to Mars in order to allow Martian factories to produce the other machines to fill in the blanks in production. With really careful study of this problem and hard work on the part of the colonists, Mars could be fully self sufficient in terms of all machinery production (as well as all elemental resource extraction and energy needs) in between 50 and 100 years, for sure.

>>12776037
He understands a lot. Here's what people in the industry said about him
Robert Zubring
>When I met Elon it was apparent to me that although he had a scientific mind and he understood scientific principles, he did not know anything about rockets. Nothing. That was in 2001. By 2007 he knew everything about rockets - he really knew everything, in detail. You have to put some serious study in to know as much about rockets as he knows now. This doesn't come just from hanging out with people.
Kevin Watson - worked for JPL
>Elon is brilliant. He’s involved in just about everything. He understands everything. If he asks you a question, you learn very quickly not to go give him a gut reaction. He wants answers that get down to the fundamental laws of physics. One thing he understands really well is the physics of the rockets. He understands that like nobody else. The stuff I have seen him do in his head is crazy. He can get in discussions about flying a satellite and whether we can make the right orbit and deliver Dragon at the same time and solve all these equations in real time. It’s amazing to watch the amount of knowledge he has accumulated over the years.
>Garrett Reisman - an engineer and former NASA astronaut
>I first met Elon for my job interview,” Reisman told the USA TODAY Network's Florida Today. “All he wanted to talk about were technical things. We talked a lot about different main propulsion system design architectures.
>At the end of my interview, I said, ‘Hey, are you sure you want to hire me? You’ve already got an astronaut, so are you sure you need two around here?’ ” Reisman asked. “He looked at me and said, ‘I’m not hiring you because you’re an astronaut. I’m hiring you because you’re a good engineer.'
more
https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/k1e0ta/evidence_that_musk_is_the_chief_engineer_of_spacex/

>>12774848
My same thoughts, if not methane why not at least propane? If they don't like the lower density/somewhat-deep-cryogen features of methane, you'd think they'd at least minmax for mass ratio and go with somewhat sub-cooled propalox, which is basically as dense as kerolox but significantly more efficient, and also cleaner burning (though likely not clean enough to allow FFSC/FRSC).

>>12776035
>There have been some fucking based NASA proposals
such as

>>12776063
>>12776037
>>12776024
Real pain is knowing that 15 years ago John Carmack was richer than Elon, and is arguably way smarter overall. Armadillo Aerospace had a meme name but could have been flying starships by now had Carmack not fallen into the asian poon trap

>>12776098
>I will live to send a birthday card to my grandchildren on Mars
Sounds pretty good to me.

>>12774888
I seriously have more faith that RocketLab will get a ~1 MN gas generator kerolox engine built and working from scratch in time for the 2024 launch of Neutron than I do in NG launching before 2025.

>>12775743
why are you impersonating me

>>12776037
He's learned enough to put many engineers in their place. In his workplace, either Tesla/SpaceX, whenever someone disagrees with Elon, they must present proper knowledge and justification at how they arrived at their conclusion. "NO YOU CAN'T JUST LAND ROCKETS ON A BARGE IN OCEAN BECAUSE NASA/DOD CANT DO IT" is not an answer that will get any respect. Reasoning by analogy is what its called, and thats a quick way to getting fired at Tesla/SpaceX. He's been reasoning from first principles for 20+ years since his early days in both his companies and has lot of deep knowledge that most engineers dont have because they don't examine why they know what they know.

>>12776121
Prove its your post

>>12776098
What is, realistically, the maximum potential we can get out of Mars? I'm talking like centuries into the future, what immense benefits could Mars alone bring to the table? Perhaps local minerals, which, from what we know now, aren't that valuable, and a port for further deepspace exploration, not much else, right?

>>12776115
NG will slip again but less and less, Neutron still has beeg slippage to go. NG 2024, Neutron 2026 if RL even survives that long on their current path.

>>12774802
This >>12774899 was meant for you

>>12776112
carmack is not smarter, he's resigned to spending his days "programming" for facebook vr lmao.

>>12775753
What's crappy about it is that the cover that failed was on one of the 3 merlin engines for reentry. Had it been on one of the 6 engines for flight only, it would have likey made it home.

>>12775522
Luckily I applied just before that ball ache came into play. The virtual assessment centre was decent tbf

>>12775854
Electronics engineering BEng, space systems engineering MSc. Lots of hands on experience, but nothing industry-related. I'm employed now

>>12775776
>TRUE AMERICAN TRAGEDIES! FOR TRUE AMERICANS!
Fucking kek

>>12776134
Has and will continue to have plenty of land for development and has low enough gravity to make getting into space very easy. Will become the largest staging ground for infrastructure in space.

>>12774914
Earth is the planet of sea transport.
Titan will be the world of air travel.
Mars and the airless moons are for rail networks. Out to Saturn the rails will be traditional rolling-contact, but on the moons of Uranus and Neptune as well as the Kuiper belt objects we will use materials that superconduct at ambient temperatures to do super cheap maglev trains with cars the size of supertankers.

https://theconversation.com/elon-musks-starship-may-be-more-moral-catastrophe-than-bold-step-in-space-exploration-124450

This is retarted. How tf is radiation a moral issue, and what makes the moon a better colonization candidate?

>>12776146
He recently did some work for Microsoft tidying up this UK covid quack Professor Neil Ferguson's utterly dreadful epidemic modelling C++ codebase to get it into a fit state for github, and even after that it was still appallingly poor quality code. Was sad to find him mixed up in the Gates/Schwab vaccine tyranny wrongness

>>12775840
>It tried to record but there was an overflow of data
Is that what they said happened? I thought I understood it to have been an initialization error that didn't allow recording to start at all.
Granted, data overflow can cause that, but failed initialization would have happened first.

>>12775847
>Should have used an SSD
You sound like you have zero concept of how data is processed outside of youtube videos to make your own computer.

>>12776158
>thinking we'll ever take mankind beyond saturn
We're stopping at Titan, exploration venues beyond it will be seen as pointless

>>12776134
In a colonized solar system Mars is either the second most or straight up the most valuable planet. It has essentially Earthlike raw material with a much smaller gravity well. Nothing else really has that. Sure there may be asteroids with specific overabundance of rare materials, but the sheer necessity of those things is also low - or in other words, a single shipment might give you all the iridium you will ever need, but if you import something as basic as carbon, nitrogen, phosphorous, potassium, etc. you're always going to be reliant.

my copy of liftoff is arriving tomorrow from amazon! get yours now, the bergor implores you

>>12775846
>I'm talking about literal months.
Sounds like where I work (army base as a civilian).
We hired a guy to be a mid level mechanic for our facility and it took 3 months from interview to start date.
Shitty HR department

>>12776098
The difference is there is literally no reason to colonize Mars other then scientific achievement.

Settlers came to America because it was a rich land full of resources and opportunities. Mars has none of that. We want to do it just because.

>>12776167
He has interesting ideas, but carmack is the absolute perfect example of wasted potential

>>12774936
Rods from the gods are the equivalent of a big bunker buster bomb, they aren't nukes. Plopping one into the center of a big city may kill a few thousand at most, if you managed to hit a fully staffed office building. With a kinetic warhead like that you'd want to aim at extremely high value targets that are covered up under defenses too strong to get through with conventional weapons, like the turbine hall of a nuclear generating station, or the concrete superstructure of a large dam (specifically the three gorges one, lmao fuck chine)

>>12775288
You don't understand. I want to rape one, not be raped by one.

>>12776169
Titan if anything is a unique colonization challenge, not some kind of holy grail of colonization. It would be easier to settle hundreds of other places. It's also my favorite place in the solar system so I'm not just bagging it for the sake of it.

is Rocket Lab not painting neutron? if so, based

>>12776158
Any chance we could connect Earth and Mars with a maglev train??

>>12776177
Long before there was any notion of a "land of opportunity" the Americas were the place you went if you were a crazy fuck on the fringes of society with a sense of ambition. And that is just the most recent outward wave of humanity, colonization efforts throughout history are the same. Mars will be no different, just more civilized.

>>12776196
That would require more minerals suited for it than we currently have on earth, and i dont think it'd really be practical

>>12776168
Instruments record data and send it to permanent memory so it can slowly be sent back to earth.They had too many sensors running and their HDD could store it all fast enough

>>12776068
cutie daughters

>>12776183
This is from the first hit I got: the explosion would be on par with the magnitude of a ground-penetrating nuclear weapon

>>12776068
everyone used windows xp during the falcon 1 days

>>12776177
Yes there is lol. It's an entire planet's worth of precious metals, rare earths, and gemstones that haven't been touched by humans yet.

>>12776160
Because Elon Musk bad, we must never go land humans on Mars, or else Elon Musk will be acknowledged.

>>12775656

>>12776192
They'll probably announce stainless steel arch lmao

Regardless of the thrill and feelings of hope this kind of adventure brings, just because we can do something, doesn’t mean we necessarily should, now or in the future

>>12776228
Bait me harder, daddy

>>12775749
>capitalism
The entire space industry is funded by public money.

>>12776076
>We as a species are literally tearing a golden egg laying goose apart bit by bit to get to the batch of gold eggs that don't fucking exist; because the goose is magical, not some thing inside it that has gold eggs.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silphium
Wouldn't be the first nor the last time.

>>12776196
The answer is no.

>>12776235
Based Delta Eridani poster

>>12776231
i was posting the last sentence from an article about why space is gay.

Berger doing an AMA, old.reddit.com/r/space/comments/lw7861/i_interviewed_the_earliest_employees_of_spacex/

>>12774954
Raptors are combustion efficient, meaning that almost all of the methalox is being converted to carbon monoxide and water vapor with a bit of hydrogen gas (basically the ideal molecular weight to energy released ratio). Raptor is also very efficient at turning this heat into thrust, as all rockets are. However in terms of propellant used for impulse gained, Raptor is like any other rocket in that it is shit compared to any system that uses a separate "free" propellant to do work on, using the energy from the fuel.
This is why air breathing jet engines are giganigger efficient compared to rocket engines, despite having less efficient combustion at much lower pressures and temperatures. They just use that liberated energy to move a much greater mass of air compared to the fuel mass they burn. A Panamax ship at full throttle burns about 0.7 gallons of fuel per second, but produces meganewtons of thrust. A car engine burns just grams of fuel per second but can produce hundreds of kilonewtons of thrust. Your muscles burn a tiny amount of fuel yet can produce a couple kilonewtons of thrust. Etc.

>>12776263
based berger. how can we get him to talk with us tho?

>>12776276
what's up?

In all honesty, do they really expect 100% of the deployment procedure to work for JWST? If just one thing jams, ONE (1) thing, the whole system becomes a floating multibillion dollar, two-decade old zombie

>>12775542
>whereas titan and europa are by far the best for long-term resource development and self-sufficiency.
Except the opposite is actually true. Titan and especially Europa will be extremely challenging.

>>12776290
Are ayys real?

>>12776290
why did you lie about trump replacing big jim bridenstine you slithering snake?

>>12775814
JPL did that, not NASA.

>>12776259
wtf I hate the media now

>>12774735
>>12774726
Remember how certain /pol/ was that Trump would win in 2020?
Remember how certain /pol/ was that Obama would lose?

>>12776315
Is JPL private, or is it part of a University or is a branch of NASA someone explain this to a retard eurofag

>>12776294
my sources tell me yes

>>12776296
because orange man bad, it's hard to make sense of everything blumpf says.

>>12776318
>Trump would win in 2020
No. Q-tards are literal facebook transplants.