3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
Previous: >>12764507
First for Richard Branson
First for dyke on the moon
nth for propane fuelled engines.
Would tracked vehicles like halftracks or tanks make sense on Mars?
>>12766920they're an utter bitch to work on and need quite a bit of maintenance so outside of heavy equipment i'd say no.
deldaiih
Most likely, but they haven't been done due to weight limitations
>>12766923what a lot of boosters
>>12766920No. We will use spider tanks on Mars.
>>12766927wew ere looking into gatting moar of thembut we were banned
>>12766942'elf and safety gone mad. it should be every mans right to own as many boosters as he wants, and fire them as he pleases.
Europa water-icy surface bump
Titan water channels bump
>>12766958foregot pic
>>12766942UNF
So... What's /sfg/ toiling with in KSP?
FTS is installed for tomorrow's attempt.
>>12766994Those are the explosive charges right?>>12766970Last thing I made was a KSP ripoff of a JPL lander. I had a manned rover/skycrane combo, packed inside of a head shield with parachutes. I turned on realism overhaul and tried to see how fast I could reenter from orbit while trying to nail a landing back at the spaceport
>>12767008did you buy or pirate ksp
>>12766922+ work exactly as well across all pressure environments + all terrain, won't be bashed apart going over rogs+ no exotic components- heavy- occasional maintenance or replacement (no different from meme-alloy wells) Treads are the best if you don't have autistic weight requirements, prove me wrong
>>12767015wheels* not wells
>>12766913I hope we get some inevitable new glenn crash pictures
>>12767014Bought it. It’s not that expensive but it should be free. Fucking thing runs on the clunkiest coding ever
>>12766917Dream Chaser may be using propane. Also there's a smallsat launcher using it, but I forget which one.
>>12767019They will be on that shit like Roswell
>>12767015you've never thrown a track in the middle of nowhere and had to get it back on. doing that in an eva suit would be hell.
>fucked up the current active threadI'm sorry, I'm just going to repost.>>12766471Honestly, I was seriously considering how easy it should be to make something like this nowadays. There's a bunch of shitty university cubesats being launched nowadays, all that it takes it for one to have an actual computer and not just a shitty microcontroller for you to be able to take it over. I know some missions that have this, however their security is usually high for communication requirements. I want to write up a report on how much it would cost to launch your own private tracker/p2p file sharing server that you could talk to with UHF or something. Just the bare minimum to make it off-world and untouchable by some government agencies. I think that it is still much too expensive for pirates, but it should definitely be possible in a few years.
>>12767020its 40$
>>12767029Theres been this thing where Pirate bay tried to launch their satellite to circumvent some regulations but it didnt work
Do you think you can fuel a rocket with pure seethe?
explain this shit
>>12767025I know it's a bitch, but I don't see how the alternative is better. It's not treads vs. traditional wheels where the debate has a lot of nuance. The best we have is basically unshod wagon wheels made out of meme materials.
>>12767037I fucking wish, I'd be on Titan by now.
>>12767030I think when I got it, it was cheaper? It was 2012 and I was in 8th grade so my parents bought it for me. For reference I am now graduated from college (and I still suck at ksp)
>>12767041skycrane attachment?
>>12767041They were broken with explosive charges unironically
>>12767041That's the root of the electrical umbilical. When you see the skycrane lowering the rover, there's one cord of the 4 that looks curly, that one connects the rover and skycrane and gets mechanically cut at when the skycrane flies away.
>>12767037Ask the EM drive guys
>>12767050more info on cutting mechanism?
>>12767044if you've got the ability to put heavy tracked machinery on mars surely you can use vehicles with non-meme wheels like on any standard 4x4.
>>12767056If Mike McColluch can actually get a QI drive to work, it might as well be powered by copium and seethium. The academic side of physics will be so pissed off
>>12767060explosive shaped charge.
>>12767063Rubber doesn't work so well in near-vacuum or extreme temperatures, let alone both.
>>12767035Care to elaborate, or link to story? This should be perfectly possible nowadays, however the state that is responsible for the launch is still legally responsible for whatever hardware they put out there, so I can imagine that they would never get this approved this easily.
>>12767072eh i'm out if ideas then. tracks it is. if in 30 years time i see you trying to fix one on the edge of some crater i'm walking right on by though.
>>12767060https://psemc.com/high-speed-pyro-cutters/It’s essentially just a tiny shaped charge. Similar devices are used to separate Rocket stages
Finally new rogg images yes
>>12767047>Sharing a thread with the zoomest of zoomersHonestly keep at it anon, good to see you here. This only makes me feel old...
>>12767079WOW this is cool
>>12767079I never thought that I'd get excited by seeing a bunch of roggs, but the fact that we can even get these images brings tears to my eyes...
>>12766970I have been playing plenty of RP-1 lately, trying to find a solid start stratergy to get orbit by 1953 but research times or construction times keep fucking me.
>>12767079some rog expert weigh in on what were looking at and if this are some special new rogs
>>12767078>"Learn more about our products!">neat, I WOULD like to learn more about your products>"please enter name, email, telephone number and company name"why
>>12766950i know right stupid nanny state
>>12767095need a rog expert to do a paper like our farming expert did.
>>12767079these rogs are making me salivate what the fuck is wrong with me
here we can see a bunch of rog specimen bathing in the sun, and looking behind them we can see a cliff which is a common rogg formation
>>12767099you thought they were going to have their bomb designs sat out there on the internet for any tom, muhammed and chang to look at?
The 4ASS thing is real, or is it the product of the farmer anon?
>>12767107they seem very excited about that rog formation. they keep going back to it.
>>12767108>bombIt's an M-80 in a tube, I don't think it's exactly a state secret. What are they afraid of, rogue wire-cutting terrorists? Scissors exist.
This may be for /sqt/, but does Mars have winds? I suppose that it could have them, but I am not sure
>>12767111>He doesn’t know
>>12767114Stealing Cooper from rails.
>>12767117Yes, though very light. Slight winds pick up tons of very fine dust there.
>>12767118No, I don't. Tell me, please
>>12767008Yes, explosives
>>12767108Bomb designs have been publically published for centuries, if you want to learn it you don't need anything more than the internet.t. guy that has built several bombs for shits and giggles
>>127671114chans garage band nasa.
>>12767121Many thanks!
>>12767127Thanks!
>>12767127it may be garbage, but it's lovable garbage
>>12767120Rails lines are iron, at least where I live. Besides, aren't abandoned houses a far easier source of copper for methheads and the like to strip from? Even then I don't think some crackhead is going to use a loud explosive-cutter charge to cleanly separate chunks of pipe while stripping a house in the middle of the night.>>12767125This
>>127671224chans space program began with a frog being tied to a helium balloon many moons ago, I have no idea when the "4ASS" name came into use as I was on another imageboard for a few years.video relatedhttps://www.dailymotion.com/video/x34snlr
>>12767130notable contributions to the space industry include engines that look like pipe bombs whos inventors suddenly stop posting, frog yeeting, kickstages and the infamous pisslock.
>>12767134My fault in expressing. The railways have some cables nearby, which are made of cooper. So it would be possible to strip kilometers of cooper wires with a little bit of preparationt. train enthusiast
>>12767102How did the farmer anon originally share his writeup? I'm a geologyfag and I could give a writeup on the geology summary of Mars, the geology of different areas and what to expect depending on where you land, and the geology of all these Perseverance photos. It would take me a while but I could share my results
>>12767138>notable contributions to the space industry include engines that look like pipe bombs whos inventors suddenly stop posting, I laughed at this
>>12767117Mars has huge dust devils which will wreck any colony
>>12767148Winds on Mars are not powerful
>>12767138We should send a titan mission proposal to NASA
>>12767148>gently cleans your micrometer thick layer of dustooohhh so scary
>>12767148Theyre even strong enough to clean solar panels of dust
>>12767148>100km/h winds>@ 0.01 barOh no, they are so powerful they might even lift a plastic bag in a big storm.
>>12767148NO, NOT A LIGHT BREEZE AHHH
>>12767144posted as a set of images which someone else then collated. there's a mining guy here too so that could be a nice tie in with what we're looking at and how it could be worked with.
>>12767160Would it be possible to farm the dust? Sahara sand is what keeps the Amazon so green
>>12767095Mmmmm basalt
>>12767165>Sahara sand is what keeps the Amazon so greenI'm no botanist but I thought it was rain that did that
>>12767165A bucket and a shovel will do it
>>12767165It's full of perchlorates which isn't good for farming, we'll need to process soil before we can plant anything in it.
>>12767148
>>12767173Oh, thanks!
>>12767163AAAAAA THE BLACK STONES AND ELDRITCH WINDS, I'M GOING INSANE NIGGERMAN SAVE ME
>>12767173>Biological treatment of perchlorate is very similar to denitrification, and denitrifying bacteria have been found to be capable of degrading perchlorate.
>>12767184So why don't we just shower Mars in thousands of tons of bacteria?
>>12767190Hey we might have a use for that perchlorate >The dominant use of perchlorates is as oxidizers in propellants for rockets, fireworks and highway flares. Of particular value is ammonium perchlorate composite propellant as a component of solid rocket fuel. In a related but smaller application, perchlorates are used extensively within the pyrotechnics industry and in certain munitions and for the manufacture of matches.[4]
>>12767190designated shitting planet.
>>127671114ASS is responsible for numerous advances in space science.It's more real than SLS.
>>12767184Isn't the bacteria still pretty harmful to humans? I know blue-green algae can clean it up but they'll make you fucking sick if they get into your system
>>12766923
>>12767196>>12767184>>12767173>>12767170>>12767168Behold
>>12767220Apparently it's already a common step in wastewater treatment so it can't be that bad. OTOH the great thing about living in a bubble on a hellworld is putting something outside for an hour is the best sterilization you could ever do.
This is going to take for fucking ever. But share what you would like in the report. As of right now I'm going to base it off of the Roadside Geology book series (if you are familiar):• Introduction• Crash course of geological history of Mars• Modern surface comparison of Mars with Earth• Likely spots for colony and the local geology of said areas
>>12767247thanks, geology anon!
>>1276724710/10
>>12767196So mars won't run out of solid rocket missiles.Good.
>>12767247I just realized the way the logo is made bugs me.4chan Aeronautics and Space Society should be on the top and on the bottom it should be "Salire [four leafed clover] Ferociter"The asymmetry it currently has bugs me
>>12767247Wouldn’t the equator be the best spot for colonization on Mars?
https://youtu.be/gcv6beMn750ISS spacewalk in progress. Have gotten some pretty amazing views.
>>12767283Most of the water is in the poles while most of the sun is accessible from the equator. Not sure how you balance these two needs.
>>12766913I am writing a 4Ass report about it colonizing mars but more in depth. I don’t want to miss anything but I’m also worried about missing stuff. The report will cover>The Starship system>The first landings>ISRU>Buildup of a base>PROONTING/Thunnels>The first few colonists>Population growth on MarsLikely in that order. Thoughts? Pic related I did some math for the first part.
>>12767286That's why colonization prospects focus on the northern mid-latitudes.
>>12767286Just print a hyperloop to get to and from
>>12766913I am writing a 4Ass report about colonizing mars but I’m also worried about missing stuff. The report will cover>The Starship system>The first landings>ISRU>Buildup of a base>PROONTING/Thunnels>The first few colonists>Population growth on MarsLikely in that order. Thoughts? Pic related I did some math for the first part. It might be a bit word heavy as opposed to picture-heavy
>>12767247Good stuff I’m very excited!>>12767296Pic related I did some math for Part 1. It’ll just be an overview of Starship.
>>12767296u forgot the pic this time kek
Spacewalk happening LIVE at ISShttps://youtu.be/gcv6beMn750Preparing the station for solar panel upgrades Space Engineers unite
>nuclear bombing platformAbsolute Based
>>12767120You use thermite to cut rails, not bombs.
>>12767304I just woke up bruh I suck
>>12767312it's so sad he never got to go to space
>>12767315Nah mate, you are great!
>>12767332https://amuedge.com/this-week-in-space-february-3-2006-nasa-launches-suitsat-1-from-iss/cool
>>12767332wheeee
>>12767312fractional orbital bombardment is cool but glassing earth before we have humans on other planets is not cool
Behold, mars rogs
>>12767336>Ivan Ivanovich burned up in the Earth’s atmosphere in September of that year.
>>12767347the madman
>>12767345I want to put one in a fish tank
>>12767345imagine dune racing on mars.
>>12767345Almost looks like old ruins from an ancient civilization
>>12767345you can tell this was underwater. i hope they find fossilized bacteria
>>12767345It really is a pretty place, I don't care what anyone says.
>>12767247Can we include this and the botanist guide in the OP from now on?
>>12767286just point the solar panels sideways towards the sun there is plenty of space
>>12767361If I recall the press conference correctly, the first short test drive should come up at the end of this week or next week
>>12767369I hope it draws another dick in the dirt like Curiosity.
>>12767345why does it look a little like cgi?
>>12767345So is this real color? Looks a little dull.
>>12767375cause that's what you mind is used to. you can't separate reality from your video games.
>>12767369Why does it take them two weeks to start driving?
>>12767380Mars weather basically covers the entire planet surface in a fine oxidized dust. As soon as rovers like Curiosity drilled or brushed rocks it revealed rocks of different colors.
>>12767382Turn on the rover, take pictures, figure out exactly where you are and where you want to go, take more pictures, construct VR environment to walk around in, take more pictures, have several staff meetings, take more pictures. There's lots to do first anon!
>>12767382First week is to gradually upgrade both rover computers from flight software to surface ops software and then the rest of the time is to commission all the systems to verify everything is functional and working safely.
>>12766913Does anyone else unironically like watching the Everyday Astronaut? I enjoy his videos on specific topics because they’re fun and are 20-30 minutes long. I also like his livestreams because he’s very informative. I know he’s a bit uh “DUDE SCIENCE” but I still like Tim’s stuff.
>>12767383>the whole planet rustedWhy was water being there ever even a question?
>>12767387His videos where he delves deep into the engineering numbers to compare various systems are nice. He just goes a little too far on politics on his livestreams.
>>12767388Ever released chlorine gas into a lab with metal impliments around? Shit rusts instantly
Hellas Planitia in the southern emisphere would be a good place for a colony. Highest atmospheric pressure on Mars and confirmed water. During the summer there could liquid water with the combination of temperature and pressure. I'm going to pop a dome there and start experiments in growing Antarctica flora there.
>reddit, the engine
>>12767395The FAA was right.
>>12767389Ah. Idk man Scott Manley seems worse to me. His videos are great but he’s so snarky and smug on Twitter it totally ruins it sometimes.
bros.... It's over, gay "wen hop" won over "hop when?"
>>12767399>a privileged white liberal is snarky and smugwow
>>12767399I respect a man that doesn't care what others think
>>12767399Simple: Never use twitter. There's no reason to, kill your connection to it. You can 'follow' people elsewhere or through other means.
>>12767403>>12767395ffs. I'm done. I'm a ULA chad now.
>>12767403....the box is load bearing isn't it
>>12767403I support a full comprehensive review by the FAA, NASA, and congressional committees into this anomaly. Elon will not make a mockery of American spaceflight.
>>12767387his website is better. it does give about as indepth review of technologies as you can get without getting into the hard engineering of it.
>>12767395>>12767403HOP WEN BRO’S BTFO’D!
>>12767395>>12767403Where is this going, I need to know when to root for a test failure for once
So how long until an /sfg/ meme shows up on a Raptor engine
>>12767411I actually think so
>>12767424that part is based and low tech solutions pilled
>>12767422when one of the reddit cross posters steals it and it becomes sfw.
>>12767427low cost*
>>12767410that was easy
>>12767424Raptor is weird it looks so complicated but seems to be fine with being handled out in the open and on a flatbed truck.
>>12767403Seems like this is SN47, huh. So SN50 arrived first maybe?
>>12767434I think the complexity of Raptor is overstated, the workings are pretty simple and just metallurgically intense
>>12767422>>12767431>krystalposter sneaks into boca chica and slaps a krystal nude on a raptor
>>12767440true. it's no more mechanically complex than a modern 4stroke. just has to deal with a lot more and doesn't (yet) benefit from mass production in the millions.
>>12767422>Why is that raptor wearing a toga?
>Elon built a Raptor engine with a literal box of scraps
>>12767422Imagine the NSF speculation if a Raptor showed up with “BRAAAAP” written on the side
>>12767422>someone paints tits on SN10
>>12767457>Thanks for the superchat ImagineTheSmell1488!
SpaceX Starlink launch tonight
>>12767444to illustrate, this is a modern turbofan engine. and we've all seen the pics of most modern car engines. raptor looks simple by comparison.
>>12767357how can you tell?
>>12767345Isnt it a little biased that they study impact craters. They should land in some plain part of Mars where no meteor deposited material.
>>12767375Thin atmosphere makes things look weird
Where is the geology anon?
>>12767474think they're more interested in the 'it was a lake' bit.
>>12767474>They should land in some plain part of Mars where no meteor deposited material.Is there such a place?
>>12767467So why are jet engines so reliable but rocket engines always fail??
>>12767399Don't care about twitter, but he sometimes acts like that towards his kids as well. So fucking annoying you can just see him think "you stupid little shit"
>>12767436It says "RSN 47" Raptor Serial Number 47
>>12767436>zooming in on the tiny label that says 47 instead of the giant 47 taped on the bell
>>12767493continuous market pressure to iterate and improve vs lol the government does it sometimes with engines from 50 years ago. oldspace is basically those old cars you still see being used in cuba today.
>>12767498It’s really hard to tell if it’s SN47 man
TONIGHT, AT 8:37 PM EASTERN TIME, THE NEXT STARLINK LAUNCH IS SCHEDULED TO TAKE FLIGHT.FALCON 9 WILL LAUNCH FROM THE HISTORIC LC-39A AT THE KENNEDY SPACE CENTER IN FLORIDABE AWARE, NEPTUNE'S MOOD IS OF THIS MOMENT UNKNOWN. FURTHER DELAYS MAY OCCUR.LAUNCH THREAD WILL BE POSTED BY MARCUS ANONYMOUS IN THE HOURS PRIOR TO LAUNCH.NO FURFAGS, DISCORD TRANNYS, OR UNCLEAN REDDITORS MAY ATTEND.THIS LAUNCH UPDATE WAS PROVIDED BY TESLA, INC.TRUE AMERICAN CARS! FOR TRUE AMERICANS!
>>12767403>SN# in tape on the bellwonder if number printing machine broke or whatever the fuck they were using before
>>12767424love the green engine bell. Very unique.
>>12767505Who knows but if it was OldSpace they would’ve shut down engine production until it was fixed
>>12767493rocket engines by definition operate on the edge of failure. The margin between being useful and failing is quite thin. This is also where the difficulty comes into play: faults in the system are magnified by the intense conditions, meaning that compared to other engines a rocket engine has to go further in the approach towards perfection.
>>12767505They looked stenciled on, nothing that could break probably. My guess is that they want to move away from numbers on the Raptor bells, but after the last one went unnumbered and everyone noticed, they made it as big as possible for shits and giggles.
>>12767079How do you end up with like that boulders on Mars?It looks like igneous rock
Can we bring Greg Doucette to Mars?
https://youtu.be/gcv6beMn750Current view of an astronaut trying to deal with a space toolbag full of floating tools
>>12767465wonder if they're still going to use the super demanding regime after the previous failure.
>>12767521I've been watching, it looks frustrating as fuck.
>>12767345I have a hard time figuring out what is on the background. Is it a larger mountain or is this just the Martian sky?
>>12767504Based newsreader.
>>12767540It's a hill
>>12767540Taller terrain. Rover landed at the bottom of the delta
>>12767550Ah thank you.
They really nailed the landing site this time. Jezero Crater is fucking crazy. Perseverance landed smack in the middle of some absolutely wild geology
>>12767521Hatch closing event. Using ISS cameras now
>>12767567fucking WOW
>YWN have a geology crash course from Gene Shoemaker as you prepare to launch to the Moon on a Saturn VWhy even live
>>12767567explain why these roggs are more interesting than curiosity roggs
>>12767583Jesus Curies cameras are fucked
>>12767594The Apollo 14 episode from "From the Earth to the Moon" is pretty kino
>>12767583Look at all those dead pixels from radiation
>>12767602Curiosity landed at the bottom of an ancient lake bed where things slowly layered in. Perseverance landed at a previously more active river delta location. More rapid erosion and geological events.
>>12767612Just imagine how many more interesting roggs we've been missing out on.
>>12767602Well Gale Crater is pretty interesting too, but they chose it for it's high volume of sedimentary rocks that outcrop (because it is believed to be a dry evaporite lake). Jezero Crater is a bit different. It is floored by basalt, like the rest of the surface, but the difference is that it had a huge inlet of water which lead to a delta. Instead of evaporite sed rox everywhere like we see with curiosity, Perseverance sees tons of basalt that has been weathered by water, along with active sed rox deposited as part of the delta system
>>12767567I'm always preoccupied by massive cringe when people pronounce it "Jizz-erow" to think about anything elseIt's from Proto-Slavic and you should read it "Ye(h)-zeh-ro"
>>12767523I hope not
>>12767621Out of all of the possible landing sites across Mars, Jezero is definitely in the top 10. The only other places I think need to be explored (hopefully by humans) would be the general layout of Valles Marineris, all those mysterious holes and lava tubes, sites with known avalanches, and places with active chemical serpentine cycles (likely from ancient hydrothermal vents). I would also add carbonates to this list but I'm pretty sure Jezero has a ton of them and it's one of the main goals of Perseverance
>>12767610no silly those are just the ground stars
>>12767637Now that JPL has confirmed the terrain detection/navigation landing system works, they will be more confident about selecting even harder to reach interesting landing spots
>>12767629Im slavic and I say jizzero would be weird otherwise
>>12767647Yeah I don't disagree but also we are about to send humans to Mars. A human can do in 2 days what a rover can do in 2 years. Although we should be wary that the initial colony will be at one spot and the rest of Mars could still use rovers for a while. I think the (new) way of doing it should be JPL just sending a rover/skycrane along as part of cargo starships. Rovers could be landed across the entire surface and then the JPL landing coding could help them get to places
>>12767637Great thats just 3 more Mars missions before we can think of Titan or Europa>>12767647they took the algorithm out of a guided missile btw
>>12767656>Great thats just 3 more Mars missions before...Oh well Titan is vastly more based than Mars in every way. I was just throwing out food for thought>they took the algorithm out of a guided missile btwIs this true?
>>12767654>A human can do in 2 days what a rover can do in 2 yearsdisagree at this point it doesnt make much sense to send Humans if your goal is science. A rover does more science than a human it just takes longer for a rover and rover missions are much cheaper
>>12767664My point was that we will (soon) have the ability to get geologists on the surface. They can hammer out rocks and soil samples and bring them back to a lab where they can use all the tools a rover has, but better. Rovers are built with mass in mind and thus have bare-bone science equipment. For example perseverance has a raman spectrometer, mass spectrometer, etc. but they are very very fundamental. SpaceX would be able to land WAY better equipment for labs that could do so much more
>>12767664A dude with a shovel can do more in an hour than any lander or rover has done. No spacecraft has ever done a true deep core sample of Mars ever
>>12767636yeah, pretty clear that that was pushing things too far. Speaking of the Starlink 19 entry burn failure, I was trying to make sense of the anomalous plume seen before telemetry loss. It's shooting out towards the side. If the booster was still approaching sea level in a nominal, upright, orientation, wouldn't this plume be instead facing towards the camera? Does this imply that the booster was falling sideways at this point? What do you guys think?
Where is the geology guy? I hope he is doing well
>>12767664“Science” is a fucking retarded goal. Colonize or prepare to colonize, or it’s a retarded waste of time and the people who say space exploration is a waste of money are objectively right.
Elon is an idiot, a true moron in ever sense of the word. The reusable rocket technology SpaceX spent years developing is self defeating because its more efficent to use a expandable rather than a reusable Falcon 9 on a pro-rated basis. $62 Million for 22,800kg into LEO with an expendable F9 means a price of $2720/kg. $50 Million for 15,600kg into LEO with a reusable F9 means a price of $2720/kg. You are literally spending almost $500 MORE per kilogram going reusable, it would be cheaper for SpaceX to fly the F9 expendable from now on and it would have been better if they never fell for the re-usability meme at all.>"B-B-B-B-BUT RESUABILITY MEANS SAVING MONEY"Not if the ammount per launch saved it offset by a reduction in payload capacity, sure a reusable F9 costs 20% less than expendable, but also has 32% reduction payload capacity. It gets even worse with the Falcon Heavy. Which can put 63,400 kg into LEO when Expandable for 150 million, as opposed 28,400 when reused for 90 Million, $2350/kg vs $3630/kg respectively a difference of over $1000/kg.Why is musk considered a genius again? Is paying more per Kilogram to LEO, using rockets in thier inferior configuration, some big brained idea that only SpaceX could have pulled off?Let's face it, re-usability is a meme. You all fell for it because the heckin' Muskerino convinced you it was smart and that you were smart for believing him, using his only real talent marketing.>inb4 "Shill">inb4 "Thunderfag pls go">inb4 "So how much is ULA/Blue Origin/Roscosmos/ect paying you?">inb4 "Who at SpaceX hurt you?">inb4 some other irrelevant lockumentDon't even bother to copepost, there's no getting around the fact that SpaceX is welfare leech no different than a sheboon and her 5 nigglets fathered by 4 different men. SpaceX making up their losses on commercial flights with largess from the government isn't innovative. Its just Musk stealing another idea from many who proceeded him, and pretending that its his own.
(You)
>>12767687If reusability was more expensive, then SpaceX simply wouldn't offer it as an option.BTFO by capitalism
>>12767687https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bvRZg36tbOXpDS765M3yIY1IeML_-MMjuHM8BodYTzo/edit#gid=0
>>12767687How much is the Zambian space program paying you?
>>12767687Don't you have alimony to pay Jeff?
>re-usability is a meme
>>12767714
>>12767664what does that even mean? "the goal is science"?science is a method of gaining knowledgeyou act as if Science was a deity and space probes were some kind of burn offering to appease it
>>12767716contemplate the aroma
>>12767720It’s a surrogate activity. Pointlessly learn things for no practical reason
>>12767716>>12767716no way, you can see the curvature of the planet from 25km up! How small is Mars?
>>12767065If a QI drive works and someone gets net gain out of inertial electrostatic confinement fusion we're in for HTOL SSTOs that have reasonable payload fractions.
>>12767720>space probes were some kind of burn offering to appease it>near future cargo cults using salvaged ex-soviet rockets to launch vaguely rover-shaped piles of garbage at Mars to appease the machine spiritskinda kino ngl
>>12767726This is Titan kek. It was made by some dude using raw data from Huygens. I think it has a fisheye lens
>>12767079Holy shit, we rocket craned a rover into that field safely. JPL are gods.
>>12767714>>12767716where can I find raw pics
Tunnelfags btfo!>>12766495>>12766495>>12766495
>>12767729>>>/x/
>>12767714>>12767716I want to go bros. I want to listen to the minecraft soundtrack and build furnaces in my /comfy/ colony
>>12767681No one knows. I’ve seen speculation that it’s because the booster lost control and started to turn and ended up breaking apart because of the forces. It’s also been noted that there’s a possibility of an engine eating itself on shutdown and spewing bits of debris out. One thing is certain though, and it’s that if SpaceX wants to keep testing reusability, they’ll have to take it easier on the cores. At least Superheavy does RTLS-only
>>12767687Get off 4chan, thunderfoot.
>>12767135>I have no idea when the "4ASS" name came into useIt was last year. Some /sfg/ anon built a model rocket and launched a frog "Pepe Gagarin" in it. The thread was joking about 4ASA when some anon suggested a superior acronym and it stuck.
>>12767247Angry Astronaut has an actually good video about lava tube sites in the megavolcanoes.Likely long term colony spots off the top of my head:>lava tubes>Valles Marineris>Zubrin's wacky underwater frozen lake idea in an ice craterThese are all 100% driven by ease of habitation so you'd also need separate launch facilities and mining sites.
>>12767135There was a thread on /b/ from like 2015 where a dude launched some rat on a balloon, he put it on yt but it got deleted in like a few hours
>>12767739http://www.beugungsbild.de/huygens/povray/titan_rendered.htmlIdk where he got the raw Huygens data but I know it's out there somewhere. The most famous stitch-together of the data is in this videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZC4u0clEc0
>>12767687is this a copypasta or do we have original retardation
>>12767779So fucking kino wow. Also they almost fucked up the entire mission. The Euros had shitty programming that almost made the entire mission unable to communicate with Cassini. IIRC they barely got away with it by using some quick hack they had to send to the lander, but they still ended up only getting half the data they were supposed to.
>>12767411I can tell you've worked with a lot of plumbing. It's "load bearing" until they actually connect the plumbing. If it was an oldspace engine, they probably would have spent 5 years developing a custom piece of resting equipment for it.
>>12766920The virgin track & wheels vs the Chad screw rovers, prove me wrong
>>12767741>moon proonting>Starship in the official renderBASED
>>12767802>screw propelled vehicleThe temptation for astronauts to call this thing "your mom" is going to be massive.
>>12767803>official render inexplicably uses Mk 1's pointy forward flaps
>>12767387I hate fun but I still like his videos>>12767389Worse than manley on twitter?
>>12767802https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZIL-2906>already used by Roscosmos to recover Soyuz capsulesbased and slavpilled anon
>>12767071no, pyro cutters contain a pyrotechnicaly fired blade and an anvil to catch the blade
>>12767779I prefer raw data
>>12767802Why do screws look so cool for locomotion but I've only ever seen them in MGS3
>>12767729>QI and IEC fusionJust double down and ask for FTL, it's just as likely to happen.
>>12767815https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afJ18eJeNgULook at this thing fucking go wtf. Also this video HAD to be made in 2007 kek
>>12767803>>12767813Absolutely based.
>>12767817and if it doesnt work the whole mission if fucked
>>12767452>in the middle of nowhere
who the fuck is funding copenhagan suborbitals?
>>12767814Tim’s Twitter is pretty mild aside from a few emojis it’s mainly just him talking about SpaceX. Scott is infamous for being a weirdo
>>12767847when these things fire, they cut. the only thing that can happen is a pyro failure and nothing goes off, but for that they have a redundant secondary cutter
>>12767714>>12767716That's one thick atmosphere
>>12767857>they do it for free
>>12767504>no furfags may attend
t-6hr F9 launch thread since I'm gonna be busy around the normal ~t-1hr posting window>>12767900>>12767900>>12767900I should really set up some auto-posting thingy
>>12767903F9 launches scare me. I’m always 100% certain something will go wrong the entire time. Same with Starship.
>>12767828>What a thrill....
>>12767894>ywn be a space jannie
>>12767699>>12767703>>12767705>>12767708>>12767786Absolutely Fuming, maybe Musk's engineers can synthesize a healing salve for your anguished anuses.
>>12767928>ur mad cus i said so
>>12767934Always the case with shazzamies
>>12767917https://vocaroo.com/8YLC57hrWBV
>>12767934
>>12767940>>12767917https://vocaroo.com/19YrDMGrxeOS
>>12767703cool tableadd Shittle (inflation adjusted) and SLS (and include dev costs)I did the calculation and it's daunting
>>12767954
>>12767802How was this gif made, what program? Any ideas?
>>12767962Pornhub
>>12767960Man I really hope it works. 50/50 chance IMO because I still think there’s a good probability of some random issue becoming apparent
>>12767948more
>>12767928lol
>>12767928>be shitty troll>get called out as shitty troll>u mad lol
>>12767969The good thing about SN9 is that everything up until relight worked the same as SN8, so I feel more comfortable about that phase of the flight now. I'm a bit worried about an engine failure on ascent though, since it's weird that they've had so many problems otherwise but have performed so reliably with that. Also, there are still ways that it could land hard or tip over even if the engines work on landing.
>>12767981Keep telling yourself what you want to believe, it might even help you pretend that you're a really woman as well.
>>12767991An engine failure on ascent scares me too seeing as Raptors have a shitty record with static fires. That would be embarrassing to because it would legitimately be backwards progress. I’ve been worried about the ascent since SN8
>>12767994$/T has fuck all to do with launch cost you well dweller
Has SN7.2 done anything since it popped?
>>12768010No
>>12768010going over data at the moment, SN7.2 is pretty pointless now because if they patch it, it won't have the same durability as a fresh tank without a patch
>>12767647so that's why it did that little maneuver at the end, fucking nice
>>12767647>fully autonomous terrain relative navigation by rocket powered flying cranes on another planet
>>12768006>"Costs are going down, but a metric that's a function of cost doesn't mean anything"
>>12768044Fuck what a throwback lmao
>>12768044>our satellite weighs only 3 tons>let's put it on the rocket with a cost per kilo of only 500$>rocket costs 2.3 billion>it's the only payload
>>12768006cost per launch is still cheaper than every other option besides cubesat/sounding rockets
>>12768044If you have a 300 kilogram satellite you wouldn’t launch it alone on a Falcon 9, you’d use something smaller like an electron. Falcon 9 has a lower $/kg but is overall more expensive
>>12768059>it's the only payloadSo in your contrived hypothetical, rideshares don't exist?also>cost per kilogram $500, total launch cost $2.3B>total launch capacity 4.6 million tons
>>12768059>seadragon.jpgIf that was the case you would just put more shit on the rocket to make up for it. That's what rideshare launches are.
>>127680704.6 million kilos, not 4.6 million tons, but still, that's a big fucking rocket
good views todays spacewalk from HD cams on station and from the HECA HD cam on the EMU
>>12768059>>12768068>"SpaceX doesn't already do ridesharing, the economics of reusability work because... because... they just do, okay?"
>>12768059utter retard
>>12768081>Payload reduction due to reusability of booster & fairing is <40% for F9 & recovery & refurb is <10%, so you’re roughly even with 2 flights, definitely ahead with 3.
>>12768081Reusability is too expensive which is why every launch provider is trying to build a reusable rocket
>>12768095rock n roll baby
>>12767687>reusable F9 costs 20% less than expendablePlease explain, friend.
>>12768090>Musk said it, I believe it, that settles it!
How much more expensive is a moon base than iss
>>12767789thanks for explaining it to me, unironically
>>12768099You're taking bait m8
>>12768099SpaceX charges you extra to throw away a booster because they really want to fly it again in the futur
https://gizmodo.com/this-new-image-of-venus-shouldnt-actually-exist-1846364584Venus' surface
>>12768103>he says, not knowing how basic math works
>>12768103>please use the expendable option instead, out ULA special, the Delta IV>"Twice the payload, with only 3 times the cost!
>>12768109>Gizmodo>click bait even in the URLnot clicking, also every former gawker employee should be rounded up and dumped in battery acid ISIS style
>>12768109I think THIS image should not exist
>>12768103>n-no I know better because uhhh
>>12768113That WISPR can do this comes as a complete surprise to the Parker team, according to Angelos Vourlidas, the WISPR project scientist from the Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory (APL). This device is “tailored and tested for visible light observations,” said Vourlidas in the NASA statement, saying they “expected to see clouds, but the camera peered right through to the surface.”“WISPR effectively captured the thermal emission of the Venusian surface,” added Brian Wood, an astrophysicist and WISPR team member from the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory, in the NASA release.WISPR, it would seem, has an unexpected capacity, namely the ability to detect near-infrared wavelengths of light. If confirmed, NASA says this could alter the scope of the missions to include investigations of dust around the Sun and also within the inner solar system.
>>12768113https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2021/parker-solar-probe-offers-a-stunning-view-of-venusThat aspect of the image took the team by surprise, said Angelos Vourlidas, the WISPR project scientist from the Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory (APL) in Laurel, Maryland, who coordinated a WISPR imaging campaign with Japan’s Venus-orbiting Akatsuki mission. “WISPR is tailored and tested for visible light observations. We expected to see clouds, but the camera peered right through to the surface.”
>>12768105The Apollo lunar module costs $380 milllion in today’s dollars. It could put 5 tons into the surface of the moon when deployed from low lunar orbit. The descent stage masses 10 tons so the whole thing was about 15 tons. If you use Methalox or Hydrolox on the descent stage instead you get about 1 km/s extra delta v, which would allow you to land on the moon from a trans lunar injection.The vehicle has a mass of 15 tons so it can be launched straight to the moon using an expendable Falcon heavy. FH expendable costs $150 Million plus $400 Million for our upgraded lander and that means you can put 5 tons into the lunar surface for $550 million. For reference, a Delta IV Heavy costs $350 million per launch
>>12768099He's been quoted as saying that a reusable Falcon 9 FT launch goes for about $50 million, the rocket when expendable is $62 Million. 50/62 is .8, so a reduction of 20%.>>12768112Launching 45 tons of cargo on two expendable F9s ($124 million) in 2, 22.5 ton payloads is more economical than launching on three reusable F9s ($150 million) in 3, 15 ton payloads.
TOP PRIORITY MISSIONS:• Venus lander• Venus sample return mission (not impossible but it would be a logistical nightmare)• Titan mission ASAP, Dragonfly is based but it's going to take forever to launch• Europa-clipper style mission WITH LANDER so we don't have to wait 20 years• Cassini-style mission to visit Uranus or Neptune. Needs to be launched ASAP because it will take a LONG time to get there if we want it to go slow enough to actually be able to enter orbit• No more fucking Mars missions, no more asteroid missions, no more climate satellites
>>12768123>price is costLook at the dumb on this nigger
>falling for obvious bait
>>12768125I disagree on the Mars mission part. We need an ISRU lander that can mine ice to see if it’s possible.
>>12768126If the cost of a launch really was going down as much as its said, that should be reflected in the prices if its not being kept artificially high past what's marginally profitable. I thought Musk wanted to reduce launch prices?
>>12768123so you launch it on a falcon heavy for 90 million
>>12768125>Venus sample returnCrashing an asteroid into Venus and collecting the orbital ejecta would unironically be easier than a surface lander.>Neptune orbiter missionPlasma magnet sails, bro. Uranus is the tricky one.
>>12768135They have no price competitors, hence no reason to lower prices, it's simple economics
>>12768135>that should be reflected in the prices if its not being kept artificially high past what's marginally profitable.The launch market is not particularly elastic, and he's still the cheapest option while increasing his margin. Why wouldn't he charge as much as he could get away with when he's paying for two Manhattan Project scale technology R&D efforts that could make or break the company at the same time? They have investors to please.
>>12768135>Why not just do it for free?
>>12768146>We'll pay you in exposure
>>12768125Space telescope large enough to determine the chemical composition and other features of rocky exoplanets.
>>12768125Highest priority is Titan, EuropaNext is a Venus balloon which is much simpler than a Venus landerMars sample return
>>1276812362m is the out the door cost on a first/second stage they plan to use again. 50mil is the flight cost to the customer is reusable form. expendable cost can be up to 100mil.
>>12768114Look how yellow that shit is Is the air full of flourine or something? I thought CO2 and nitrogen were invisible
>>12768155Mars sample return is pointless at this point. We have people going there within a decade and any sample return mission isn’t going to fly until 2025 at the earliest, let alone the 3 year trip there and back.
>>12768125>humans on Mars>humans on Luna>Titan submarine>Titan sample return>humans on Titan>humans with wingsuits on Titan
>>12768154Sure, let's just build a telescope with a 50km mirror
>>12768158The camera is black and white and color was derived from other instruments? I think I read somewhere that there is lots of cyanide in the air
>>12768123Then why is Starlink launching exclusively on reused hardware? If SpaceX's internal $/KG to orbit is cheaper expendable, they'd be flying Starlink on expendable boosters.
>>12768125How can a single post be this retarded? Venus is completely useless, and Mars needs a lot more exploration to determine resource deposits etc. because it's the only remotely habitable world other than Earth that we have access to
>>12768125Oh also of note is the fact that Sedna is about to approach Perihelion. It will still be far as fuck at its closest approach, but theoretically [theoretically] we could launch something that could land there and then just sit and transmit. 10,000 years from now it will be at aphelion and rival that of the voyager probes lmao>>12768132Good point>>12768158The original image was grainy as fuck and black&white. I think the yellow is an artifact of an artist's impression. But it has a fuck ton of sulpher dioxide, relatively speaking. So presumably it would be orangish yellow
>>12768136And by using the more expensive variants rather than the 3 recovered booster one.>>12768141>Musk is both lowering costs and isn't at the same time, he's such a Genuis!>>12768146>Musk is making money hand over fist, reuseability is really saving money. >Why aren't the costs getting lowered further? >You just want him to do it for free!>>12768174>They're not losing out and making up the costs elsewhere! They must be huge savings with resuability, THE ARE THEY ARE THEY ARE!
>>12768125Venus rover. Let's explore all that planet. "Dare Mighty Things", JPL
>>12768175>Venus>Completely uselessHow did you lose your soul and your brain?
>>12768177>>Musk is both lowering costs and isn't at the same time>he still thinks price is cost
I've had this thought in my head for months now. Could it work?
>>12766913Don’t reply to the shitposter you retards
>>12768179fuck off that planet is boring and making a rover would be expnsive
>>12768177>intentionally spending more than neccesary on Starlink and magically "making up the costs elsewhere"versus>SpaceX knows more about their own costs than some random 4chan trollwhich is more likely
>>12768177Nice of you to put a picture of yourself in your post. It's appreciated.
>>12768183As long as souls and brains need more than CO2 and hydrochloric acid he's right
>>12768177>>12768126Also you're not a basedjack poster, are you? it would lower your class in mankind below trash
>>12768191>Don’t reply to the shitposter you retards>>12768185>look ma' i posted it again!>>12768195>Nice of you to put a picture of yourself in your post. It's appreciated.>>12768197>Also you're not a basedjack poster, are you? it would lower your class in mankind below trash
>>12768169yes
>>12768187It's creative I'll give it that anon
>>12768197I have that one dunderf00t soijack because I like the topicality
>>12768187after several hours of extensive calculations using the most advanced supercomputers known to man, I estimate the power output of this system to be roughly 1 horse power, but it could be doubled by adding a second horse
>Why yes, I think Venus is a useless planet. Haha how could you tell??
>>12768206>I have that one dunderf00t soijack because I like the topicality
>>12768210>I don't have an argument, how could you tell?
>>12768187patent it
>>12768194>>intentionally spending more than neccesary on Starlink and magically "making up the costs elsewhere">versus>>SpaceX knows more about their own costs than some random 4chan trollwhich is more likely>>12768214>>I don't have an argument, how could you tell?
>>12768183>let's just build cloud cities bro
Venus is objectively useless in it's current state, but was potentially habitable in the distance past. It's an interesting candidate for terraforming, and learning how Venus went from a garden planet to literally hell is probably important to make sure it doesn't happen elsewhere.
>>12768192Expensive compared to what? Our government's spending is a complete joke
>>12768090Have fairings been reused at all yet
Venus is genuinely useless, it's too hot, and living in blimps doesn't really sound practical, as all materials would have to be transported to the colony
>>12768214Just because you can't colonize the surface doesn't make it useless. There is a lot to be learned from a geology standpoint by sending a rover sturdy enough to waddle around down there and collect data. It could be done pretty cheaply as well
Why is everyone so angry right now?
>>12768153Exposure sure covers development of new rockets.
>>12768227Elon went full reddit at Boca Chica
>>12768229who cares, he's a boomer
>>12768227how did JPL design a cat to dance like that
>>12768224yup
I'm not shilling for cloud cities on Venus. Why do you idiots think it has to be colony or bust? Venus is a cool Earth analog. I'd much rather convince the Biden NASA administration to at least send a Venus rover instead of SLS climate satellites to study climate science
>>12768221>dude wouldn't it just be so interesting if we moved practically all of the 4.8x10^20kg of venusian atmosphere to make it kind of somewhat livable for bacteria
>>12768234Fair point actually.
>>12768234Venus rovers are a dumb idea. What kind of science instrument are you going to put on it that won't immediately melt?
>>12768234Alright, you win. I apologize
derail time, post space waifus
>>12768234Venus is the Earth's future
>>12768236You've been getting a lot of mileage from this meme recently huh lmao
>>12768244I posted it once, detective
>>12768227>Why is everyone so angry right now?
>>12768242>tattoos>piercings>shaved headNo thanks, I don't want barista communists in space.
>>12768242
look mom, I greentexted his post and put a soijack on it
>>12768219>Musk is gonna take is to heckin' mars, and we're gonna have a city of millions. We're gonna terraform a dead planet and become a multiplanet species. DUDE we're finally gonna live in the space operas I watch on TV!>You want to try and colonize and terraform venus? Why would you want to do that its useless
>>12768236That spoon is for picking up big scoops of shit to eat
Why do cringejak quoters follow me everywhere I am?
>>12768236Moving atmoshperes is actually is pretty doable with enough infrastructure. It's more feasible than trying to move enough water to have oceans on mars or trying to increase the gravity of planets by slamming them together
>>12768244And I posted it twice. Once after making it and a second time to actually use it. This is literally the first time someone other than me has used it and you're already calling samefag, lmao.
>venus bad>climate science bad>space telescopes bad>anything but musk's tweets or mars badWhen did /sfg/ become so retarded?
>>12768250
>>12768259>Moving atmoshperes is actually is pretty doable with enough infrastructure
>>12768240>The rover would also use purely mechanical sensors for some of its instrumentation: temperature, wind speed, barometric pressure, seismic activity, and even chemical composition of samples can be measured mechanically.The best part is that if you design a hybrid mechanical-electric lander that can withstand the conditions of Venus, it can be rebuilt over and over and spread out to other hostile places like Mercury
>>12768221CloudCitiesMate
>>12768247>>12768261Oh I wasn't trying to call out samefagging or anything. I've just noticed it a lot over the past couple of days. No hate intended anons
>>12768255the problem is on Mars, water freezes in the summer, on Venus, lead boils in the winter
>>12768264>heh, i'll post "kill yourself" and that hecking viperino picture that'll show him!
>>12768259Everything you're talking about is equally retarded, I don't know why you think it's important to rank them
>>12768256It's for scooping up clump of dirt so you can dismantle a planet and create a dyson sphere, one spoonful at a time.
>>12768274You know that I keep talking to you for the sole reason that you reply, giving another post to report you for.
Is SNX going to hop tomorrow?
>>12768242Original space waifu, do NOT steal.
>>12768286Maybe. Whether it lands is the real question
>>12768286No.
>>12768285>doesn't reply anymorelul
>>12768258They congregate on a gay little site called wojackparty where they plan epic shitposts.
>>12768294wow what's her name? i want to meet her
>>12768299It will be perfectly in tact at the end of the day (because it won't hop)
>>12768316>it's real
https://youtu.be/NsnPrixNlyAcomfy af
>>12768327Wtf is this>>12768322It’ll fly eventually I just hope it makes it
>>12768286cloud cover might be a problem but apparently everything else looks good. Well know for sure later today via SpaceX updating their website and boca people reporting whether or not an evacuation is happening.
>>12768319>Trying to steal my waifu after I specifically requested the very opposite. If it wasn't for the laws of this land, I would slaughter you.
still no mcgf
>>12768343Oh that whole album is interesting. Supposedly he learned to lucid dream, and practiced it for a long time. Once proficient enough he set up a “studio” where he would go and play instruments and make songs, and then wake up and recreate them
>>12768348If I was SpaceX I’d launch it with clouds anyways. SN11 is done the bottleneck now is flying them
>>12768354Why not apply to work at JPL? She's waiting anon
Ugh, what could have been...
>>12768361>bolt chair on top>turn on infinite propellant>GOGOGOGOGOGOGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>12768361>recirculate turbopump gas?>BRRRRAP
>>12768361>”But the F-1A would have been expensive. Rocketdyne estimated that activation of the production line would cost $315 million in 1991 dollars. A significant chunk of that money, $100 million, would be required to pay for four test engines and a spare. These costs apparently did not include reactivation of the special test stands that had been used for the F-1.“>”The per-unit cost for a production engine was difficult to estimate, however, because it depended upon the quantity ordered and the production rate. Rocketdyne estimated that the cost of each engine would be $15 million, assuming an order of 40 or more engines at a rate of 10–12 a year. But with the Space Exploration Initiative dead, further study of restarting F-1 engine production ceased.“
>>12768350i think you dont know her name. i will find her before you
>>12768370It’s fine, let’s just go with SSME’s and blow $2bil everytime
>>12768374Let us know if you do. I’ll give you a head start: Ive seem like 3 separate people in this suit. They all have blonde hair though so don’t be fooled. This is the first time i’ve seen this chick. She looks young: probably a grad student at MIT
>>12767714>>12767716are the for real? which probe made these
>>12768383Huygens
2021, no F1-B, no J2-X, no will to live.
>>12768370Imagine thinking 15m engines is too expensive, spending 30 years pitching re-appropriating Shuttle equipment for cost optimization instead and seeing the actual outcome.
>>12768370>estimate fixed costs>?no thoughts on improvements>just remake an engine designed in the 50s That’s how Horrible NASA and congress is at this stuff
>>12768380i should have her social security in a few days
>>12768350What's the source of the image?
>>12768395These engines would be $30 million apiece today. Not that bad when you consider that the engine on the Atlas V costs $25 Million.>>12768402It can’t be any worse than the SSME
>>12768427https://web.archive.org/web/20150313043110/http://web.mit.edu:80/spotlight/invention-time/
>>12768435this is girl is probably 35 now.
>>12768126I see it
>>12768435>flash playerFUCK
>>12768435hehehe COME TO PAPA
>>12768402
>>12768348https://twitter.com/BocaChicaGal/status/1366141446999449603Its happening
>>12768435found a mirror of the flv on another capture, get the FUCK IN HERE BOYShttps://web.archive.org/web/20080609083938/http://mirror21.video.blip.tv/Msrp2007-DavaNewman167.mov
>>12767502RSN47, anon
>>12768454>OH SHIT I’M FEELING IT
>>12768461makenna!!
>>12768454praise be
>>12768454EVERY time I even mildly shittalk SpaceX they make me eat my words immediately. I start to feel like I should doomerpost just to make the universe align itself against me.
>>12768454It just got comfy in here
>>12768461I FOUND HER LISTED ON MIT’S SERVER, I HAVE A CONFIRMED MATCH UNDER THE NAME “SAM HYDE”
>>12768453>simplify it>modernize it>it’ll cost more and take longer
>>12768461micaella
>>12768477no fucking way, link? this is deeper than i thought
My space waifu don't existJust a photograph from 2007And when she turned 35Hit the wall, committed suicideThis day i can still hear the soundOf our life in outer space
>>12768481or mikayla michaela makenna
>>12767468Sedimentary rock. You see how the small bluff looks like its got layers? You ONLY get that with silt settling out of running water. You see structures like that all over the place in Utah's desert areas.That lump of rock alone proves there was a significant amount of water on Mars at one point.
>>12768494My space waifu died in December 8, 2020
>>12768155Venus nuclear thermal ramjet
>>12768454Third time's a charm?
>>12768478>for improved reliability, efficiency and cost.
>>12768503>Fourth orbital attempt for Falcon 1 worked>Third landing attempt for F9 workedIdk bro’s...maybe SN11 will stick it
>>12768494by now she's married and has three children. lives on a smallholding outside a small town in the midwest. her hobbies are gardening and walking her dogs.
>>12768229What do you mean?
>>12768506>power point buzzwordsJust like how they claim commercial crew and cargo is a success when the program annually costs more than the shuttle did, while launching less
>>12768511>>12767403
i must go, my people need me
>>12768520>commercial crew costs more than shuttleSource? That sounds wrong.
>>12768441between 32-34 if she's an undergrad bet. 18-22 in the video. if she's a grad could be 35
>>12768080Will they let Soichi to EVA or did he got "too old for this shit"?
>>12768532Shuttle: 209 billionCOTS: 800 millionCCDev: 8.6 billion
>>12768550Starship will cost $8.6 Billion lol
>>12768550CRS: 3.5 billion
>>12768496Where are you getting this from? Is it in the video?
fts
>>12768545wait i mean 32-36
>>12768494https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWNT11IqSXM
>>12768554CCDev is crew dragon and starliner. Musk has said in the past that starship will cost 10 billionish.
>>12768454SHIEEEETI'm feeling good about this one but I'm already getting nervous. Really want it to land but there's no guarantee.
>>12768569That’s a bargain man. Anyhow Musk could pay for the whole thing himself goddamn
>>12768499december 9th retard. i should know, it was my birthday
>>12768532Eh actually it’s about the same, like 3 billion operating the shuttle and now 3 billion on gibs to SpaceX + ULA + assorted
>>12768594Boing is in CCrew not ULA and it sounds like you're comparing fixed costs to dev costs
never forgetti
>>12768562>just weld some bombs to the side it's finebased
>>12767802
Mars Perseverance Sol 3: Left Mastcam-Z Camera>https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020-raw-images/pub/ods/surface/sol/00003/ids/fdr/browse/zcam/ZLF_0003_0667217510_000FDR_N0010052AUT_04096_034085J01.pngExplain
>>12768632It's Martian insects! probably just some dust.
>>12768632Uhhh some fucking idiot drew two giant circles on the photo?
How long until SN11 is out on the pad?
>>12768632Mars and Phobos maybe?
>>12768642wasn't 11 scrapped
>>12768632Mars dust on the lens
>>12768642A week from now probably
>>12768530When hop was literally a 4chan meme
>>12768642SN11 is ded
>>12768657"hop when" is ours"wen hop" is not
>>12768570I think it will. If it does though that means full speed ahead
>>12768657Hop wenWen hop is the chinese reddit bootleg
>>12768647No
>>12768660Wrong
>>12768649Should appear in more pics then. And they dom't.
>>12768632>brand new rover>dead pixelshow do I RMA a rover?
>>12768662No it wasn't you redditnigger. We have been saying when hop since sn4
>>12768662HENOP
>>12768669technically its already almost a year old
>>12768670Not on /sfg/
>>12768677Yes on /sfg/
>>12768669The pixels are fine. Check the other pics.
>>12768674>put one year warranty on rover from date of launch>take a year to deliver it>Martians can't RMA itJPL is China level hand rubbing rover merchants
>>12768660It's obviously a derivative meme stolen from us.
Proonting is the big winner>>12766179>>12766179
>>12768680Different anon but no, no we have not been saying when hop. Maybe they were saying that over on reddit by that time before you decided to tour over here on 4chan. But we have never said that. We started seeing it on NSF screenshots around SN8 and we all agreed it was gay
>>12768681Ok, maybe it was some dust. Here is another image from sol 3.
>>12768688>But we have never said thatI've been asking when hop on here since SN4 with a fucking rabbit meme. This wasn't even a competition until the faggots at NSF started using our meme. Everything comes from here, stop being a tourist
>>12768697Hop. Wen.
Wen hop only goes back a month as well. Fuck R*ddit. https://www.reddit.com/search/?q=%22wen%20hop%22
>>12768697Actually wait you are correct. What the fuck, did it make a jump from /sfg/ out to the wild? Or did it spawn naturally there and here coincidentally
>>12768708RedditX rockets
>>12768683Space is hard... on digital cameras.
Alright you fags we need to experiment. We need a lot more OC here. I've seen the same 50-odd images cycled throughout each thread now for the past year. Make more OC and see if it makes its way to reddit and NSF, it might even end up on a raptor
>>12768548he's up next
>>12768713>naturally there and here coincidentallysounds more like a filthy crossboarder than coincidence
>>12768718Mountain Dew logos
>>12768687>the eternal proonter wins the moonWhat a time to be alive
>>12767107mmm roggs
>>12768718Here's your oc
>>12768713>>12768720Its definitely some fag from here cross contaminating. I agree with >>12768718 we need to get a meme and spread it so it gets out
Kek, then this retard thinks that R*ddit stole the meme from him. HOP WHEN ©™ /sfg/ 2019
>>12768661yeah, it'll be a weight off their shoulders as soon as the concept itself is proven. After that they can focus on pushing the envelope which'll be much more fun imo.
Look at that absolute spike of a rock on the left
>>12768737God peoples egos are insane. This is almost as bad as that one faggot claiming he created kekistan which was entirely a /pol/ meme
https://spacenews.com/book-excerpt-liftoff-elon-musk-and-the-desperate-early-days-that-launched-spacex/>Musk traveled to his South Texas rocket factory in mid-September 2019 to track progress of SpaceX’s Starship vehicle, the culmination of nearly two decades of effort to move humans from Earth to Mars. Weeks earlier, Starhopper soared into the clear skies above the coastal scrubland, located just this side of the Mexico border. And then, it very nearly crashed. Luckily, the Federal Aviation Administration had restricted the flight’s maximum altitude to five hundred feet, so when engineers lost control during Starhopper’s descent its landing legs merely crushed through the pad’s steel-reinforced concrete, rather than erupting into a ball of flame. Musk laughed at this thought. For much of SpaceX’s lifetime he has fought against regulators, always seeking to go faster, to push higher. “This time,” he quipped, “the FAA saved us.”
Rate our Titan lander proposalIt uses a heat probe to penetrate deep beneath the surface ice until it reaches the underground ocean. It chooses to investigate a chad celestial body the kind of that Mars isntheres your oc>>12768718
>>12768737HOP WHEN 2024
>>12768741Its going to be insane after it lands. I wonder what the musk haters will say after that, especially when SN15 rolls out with a thermal layer
>>12768751I once made a meme that occasionally pops up on boards and topics completely unrelated to where I originally posted it (/g/iirc), it even got a KYM page and everythingit was a boring and derivative fish meme
>>12768756cliff to the left is sick
Dear /sfg/ users:This CEASE AND DESIST ORDER is to inform you that your theft my "wen hop" meme and derivative is completely unacceptable and will not be tolerated in any way, shape or form. This letter is to demand that use of this meme must CEASE AND DESIST immediately. Should you continue to pursue these activities in violation of this CEASE AND DESIST ORDER, we will not hesitate to pursue further legal action against you, including, but not limited to, civil action and/or criminal complaints.- Omari Antony
>>12768751All non-anonymous internet users are filthy namefags, prove me wrong.
>>12768687I actually really like this design, especially the ones with the dome covering the middle.
This is “hop when” territory. Redditors need not apply.
>>12768718Idk how much patience you guys have but we could slowly psypop them into loving a new meme. Pic related. It's very reddit, I say we capitalize on the bird meme. It's already kind of there and "burb" is very reddit. We could also post it with soi/elon titles like "Hahah I hope the birds allow SN10 to land! /s"The trick is getting something unmistakably /sfg/ in there. I put 'esseffgee' because it isn't too obvious and won't bring in tourists. But we would need to add essefgee to a bunch of memes slowly over time so it picks up traction
>>12768752>scrublandFitting
>>12768754>ourWith that configuration you would have to heat the entire cable to stop it locking up in the ice. The best way to do it would be to leave nothing on the surface but an antenna and the entire probe melts its way down using a nuclear heat source. Since the cable spool is on the probe, it stays warm and free to move. Once the probe hits the underside of the ice it stays there and uses an umbilicalled drone to explore.
>>12768259why don't we just convert venus into a ecumenopolis and build so high that it forces the atmosphere off of the planet due to the displacement?
>>12768781This is actually 2000IQ. But assuming it works we would just get pissed off that our meme is then being used under reddit NSF credit, even if that was the point. Kek.
>>12768756>>12768766So between PROONTING, reusing starships and just tunneling underground, what's the feasibilty of building habitats into those cliff faces instead?
>>12768562Damn, how big are those charges? I'm forgetting what height the rings are.
>>12768781I hate it
>>12768766You can almost feel the sandworm approaching
>>12768781>psypop psyop
>>12768800Imagine that being the entrance to a vast underground city, not some hidden-away little vault through a hole but something grand.
>>12768781This is a retarded idea. No one is going to add random letters to anything they copy. esseffgee is the stupidest thing i've ever heard.Just do what the 13 year olds on /tv/ do and spam SNEED dozens of times in every thread for months on end. Redditors will then pick it up because they keep seeing it, and if they keep seeing it, it has to be funny, right?
>>12768813sneed is already fucking annoying though, it’s the most reddit joke on /pol/
>>12768817It's not even a joke, just spam.
Honestly what if, through no fault of our own, the next raptor came out with /sfg/ written on it. Or an orbital assembly joke or something. I'd be surprised
Do you guys really think this general has any influence outside of here?
>>12768718i guess i could draw more starship-tan
>>12768843This thread is shitty enough when it's sitting on page 1. I'd rather see it not get any attention at all.
>>12768800Anon im sorry but proonting is already confirmed >>12768819
>>12768817Sneed sucks. Now Chuck? That's the meme I need.
>>12768843The real concern is when musk starts to talk about removing the atmosphere.
>>12768851Absolutely, our autists lurk every medium and often interact with normies. The memes here often go elsewhere also this website in general is normally the origin for popular memes
>>12768873>"It's delightfully counter-intuitive"
who cares about a meme
>>12768888Digits confirmed hop when wen hop btfo
>>12768766I want to jump on it
>>12768899>>12768892>>12768888So this proves we were using both
>>12768888>>12768902
>>12768866You can't have Chuck without sneed.
>>12768898Teh Internet Is serious business
>>12768898imagine making a reddit account just to claim a meme for /sfg/nearly as sad as omari
>>12768907Chuck was there before Sneed.
>>12768758I wonder if SN10 lands if they'll use it again or just retire it. I say push it to the limit but the FAA might throw a fit
Make a simple drawing of launch cat. Everyone loves space and cats. That drawing is guaranteed to end up on a Starship.
>>12768905no, the 13 and 14 inverted (reddit) posts are pretty much all from this thread bitching about how fucking reddit it is
>>12768858Still dont get how these pages work
here's the first few mentions of itas you can see, it's pretty definitive
>>12768917Bullshit
>>12768923it's a big list and when you post it goes to the top of the list, unless the rules say it can't (you post "sage" in the options field or the thread is in autosage)new threads automatically go to the top of the list, and anything that gets pushed off the bottom of the list by a new thread is archived (they used to be just deleted)
>>12768925>my pic on topye
>>12768788Yes the entire thin cable would have to be heated, or the cable would have to be spooled in the probe itself not sure which would consume less heat, sink easier. If the entire lander would be also the heat probe it maybe couldnt produce enough heat to sink. The reactors the take with them are only 150w
>>12768934it's a good image
>>12768914I was also wondering about this, i bet they will retire it to check out all the stress it took. They have SN11 to test to failure because they probably are in a hurry to get to SN15
>>12768932And what has page number got to do with thread quality
>>12768942Need a webm of Starship SN crashing with kerbals "signal lost" animation
>>12768932Oh hey I posted that thread. Cool to be a small part of history. To the historian reading this let it be known that my name is anonymous.
Sorry, /sfg/ sweeties, you've been DEBOONKED. Omari is the true creator of the meme, try not to be too jealous.
>>12768948yeah, the problem is that precisely duplicating the telemetry would be really really hard
>>12768932>>12768925>2021Kek that is definitely not the first
>>12768942SN5 unlocked enough science to research header tanks and flaps
>>12768954>Twitter and redditors fighting over ownership of a meme
>>12768947The idiots who don’t use the catalog show up and shit everywhere when it’s on page 1
>>12768960I wish they'd all die
>>12768947things on the front page get seen by the kind of people who refresh the front page looking for dumb threads to post init's the correct way to use the website but everybody who does it is retarded>>12768956here's the first hop when posts
>>12768960>Reddit, Twatter and Discord all fighting for a shitty bootleg of a meme stolen off 4chanDivine comedy is never written, it writes itself
>>12768960Just wait until the fight about who has the right to create wen hop merch breaks out.
>>12768954Who tf cares?
>>12768972>>12768973Is one of them going to try to kill the WenHop meme like the Pepe creator in some official funeral?
>>12768967This literally shows the meme originated here.
>Hi Anon, I know you like spacex, do like my new hat? I thought it was so funny tee-hee
>>12768972This is the way
>Tonight's SpaceX stream ends with the presenter dropping the wenhop meme
>>12768978yeah, "hop when" originated here"wen hop" is gay redditor shit, same if you don't misspell it
>they are amogusoh god oh fuck
>>12768988You posted that didn't you
>>12768988here, I know how to fix thislet's post historical documents
>>12768990I once reposted a meme straight from /smg/ to wallstreetbets and got 20k updoots
>>12768993Devilish
>>12768954nobody creates a meme, it's not a meme until other people spread and mutate it
>>12768979Ok but did you hear about SN9’s flight? They say that a Raptor failure killed it on landing. Elon says that SN10 will fire three engines during landing in order to provide redundancy which I think is cool. You wanna colonize mars with me?
>>12768718>(You) have the opportunity to make a shitpost on an Indonesian hobby rocket forum which can potentially make its way into history books>You can tell your children "See that dick on that engine bell in the background? That was me."What a time to be alive
>Elon bans wenhop from Starlink internet
>>12768990I lurk on there, but don't post as I'd most likely get banned on the first word
>>12768979I would love a girl interested in this shit
>>12768979Show me your short shorts
>Anon has actually said hopwen out loud
>I have proof showing the when hop guy is directly lying>Typed out a whole response, by the time I go to post, the image limit is reachedYou fucking low effort shitposters ruin /sfg/. This place used to be good
>>12769009s-shut upalso img limit reached... is it time?
>>12769013NO we ride to at least page 9
Roggs meme could be popular
>>12769012Its only going to get worse, we need a space board
>>12769013Yes>>12769015We have too much traffic for that now
>>12766913Bro’s I’ve been thinking about Starship Classifications>MK1 Class: Only two prototypes made (MK1, MK2). MK1 failed during testing and MK2 was scrapped>SN1 Class: A one off vehicle. Failed during testing.>SN2 Class: A specialized test tank never intended for flight. Only one was made. Currently retired.>SN3 Class: A one off vehicle. Only one in its class (SN3). Was destroyed during testing.>SN4 Class: The first flight worthy Starships. 3 were made in the class (SN4, SN5, SN6). SN4 was destroyed during testing. SN5 and SN6 completed flights but ended up being scrapped.>SN8 class: The final Starship to use heavy amounts of 301L steel. Only one prototype was made (SN8). SN8 was destroyed at the end of its test flight.>SN8 Refit: Three prototypes were made (SN9, SN10, SN11). Used SN8 design but with heavy majority 304 steel instead. SN9 was destroyed at the end of its test flight.
>>12769017Nah it's good in theory but I like /sfg/ being contained. It would be too annoying to have a nuclear propulsion thread, printing thread, artemis thread, etc.
>>12769017just make a thread on graphic design
>>12768967>>12768961Alright it's time I ask for someone to explain this to me. My brother originally showed me 4chan circa 2012 or something? And he told me to sort my catalog by reply count, which is what I do. I assume most other people don't. How does the catalog work normally? Tbh in 8 years I still have no clue how bumps work, but I assume the regular catalog sorting pushes /sfg/ on people as it is first created? (which would explain why pages 1-3 are usually shitty?)
>>12768125We really need Cassini style missions to Uranus and Neptune. They should both launch around the same time. The Neptune orbiter will arrive roughly around the end of the lifespan of the Uranus orbiter, it'd line up nicely.And isn't there a launch window in only a bit more than ten years or so, at least for one of them? They should really start working on it now so I may live to see nice pictures of Uranus.
Ayo, fuck it bro>>12769030>>12769030>>12769030>>12769030
>>12769028Believe it or not a Uranus mission was one of the key selling points of SLS. Anyhow this won’t happen because NASA only does 1-2 big science missions per decade, and they already chose Perseverance (2020) and Europa Clipper (2024).
>>12769031Hop wen is still Reddit spelling. It's "hop when".
>>12769027When somebody posts in a thread, it gets bumped to the top of the board. Threads are displayed in order of when they were most recently bumped. The threads on top are on page 1.After a while, the thread reaches the bump limit, which means that it keeps going further down until it reaches the end of page 10, at which point it is deleted.
>>12769031Ohnono fuck you I won't touch that edition m8 you fucked up.
Jeff will never pander to redditGo Blue
>>12769022I think it would be great>>12769023What?
>>12769027A fellow newfag, here's how I understand it: when we got here, we got used to using the catalog view, but most people who used the website before used the paged view where they just see the top threads and then justify what was recently posted as being active. This way you get a constant influx of new things as they hop around the pages until they hit page 10/bump limit and are marked for destruction soon. Real interesting because I am used to sorting by the catalog like that too, so the page number never really mattered besides to point out how popular a thread is.
>>12769046>Go Blue*waffles
>>12769017/intp/ when?
>>12768810Hmm, I think that might be a good accidental meme, rebbit is so full of IFLS pop science to begin with.
>>12769119Soon
>>12768562is this to blow it up if it veers off range?
>>12769046Jeff who has nothing to pander with.
>>12768938the strongest
>Rage, rage against the dying of the light
>/vt/>/pw/>/xs/>Yet we cannot have our own /space/ board to leave this autistic shit hole