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Reposting from /pol/ since there are 3000 slide threads
Was the fall of the USSR at least partially caused by dysgenics? Is there any evidence for that?

>> No.12763671

>>12763451
No. China is somewhat successful because they are a totalitarian dictatorship that leaves you alone unless you rock the boat. China also executes violent criminals en masse. Look at crime statistics in the usa. Look at repeat offender statistics. Now eliminate them. This gives the chinese government immense legitimacy. They will protect and punish those who abide by the system.
The USSR failed immensely at creating legitimacy; they could not protect the populace from conflict, famine, etc. They instead SOLELY protected the leader class. This was a mistake.
This is also why the USA will fail, they seem to have the idea that they can use the criminal class as a sort of rabid dog to keep the populace fearful while simultaneously not eliminating them. This kills legitimacy and without that the house of cards falls apart.

>> No.12763937

>>12763671
I exclusively lurk on /sci/ because of replies like ^

>> No.12763956

>>12763671
>China also executes violent criminals en masse
this is an eugenics measure though...

>> No.12763965

>>12763956
I think that's his point

>> No.12764001

>>12763671
>China also executes violent criminals en masse
I had no idea China was so based. If only western society had such balls.

>> No.12764005

>>12763451
>Can Socialism ever Succeed
No

>> No.12764035

>>12764005
of course I'm including national socialism in the discussion

>> No.12764047

it wouldn't be socialism then

>> No.12764094

>>12763451
>Was the fall of the USSR at least partially caused by dysgenics?
no, by constant lies of officials, crippling inefficiency in every regard and massive corruption
the real surprise is why this tyranny lasted for so long

also selection bias by subservience rather than competence is suboptimal, but thats rather obvious.

>> No.12764128

>>12763451
Truth is it probably doesn’t mean much. The current conception of a gene is basically we don’t really know, what a gene is. We have realized it’s much more complicated than the central dogma of molecular biology predicted. All levels are constantly modifying each other. And every cell is a genetic universe of its own.

>> No.12764153

>>12764128
>And every cell is a genetic universe of its own.
this is a blatant lie anon

>> No.12764553

>>12763451
As said the chinese model works because they do actually practice eugenics - they execute violent criminals like fucking crazy, more than every other country put together if i am not mistaken including african shitholes. It's really quite incredible, and if any other western country did it they'd push back societal decay indefinitely.

>> No.12764581

>>12764153
https://www.zeit.de/2008/25/M-Genetik/komplettansicht
Use the translator. What you learned in school or university is not, what the scientists in the lab are concerned with. Naive genetics has died outside of the pharmaceutical and biotech industry trying to selling products. And the education system.

>> No.12764603

>>12763451
No, it was caused by poor nutrition that made people mentally retarded.