/sci/ - Science & Math

>hides in catalog
neither is this gay ass thread

>>12750174
Glad I'll never be this mentally weak

>>12750168
have sex

>>12750308

>>12750168
prove it

>>12750168
IQ isn't real

post says it all

>>12750389
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=climate+change+isn%27t+real

>>12750476
first result
>Climate change denial, or global warming denial is denial, dismissal, or unwarranted doubt that contradicts the scientific consensus on climate change, including the extent to which it is caused by humans, its effects on nature and human society, or the potential of adaptation to global warming by human actions.[4][5][6] Many who deny, dismiss, or hold unwarranted doubt about the scientific consensus on anthropogenic global warming self-label as "climate change skeptics",[7][5] which several scientists have noted is an inaccurate description.[8][9][10] Climate change denial can also be implicit when individuals or social groups accept the science but fail to come to terms with it or to translate their acceptance into action.[11] Several social science studies have analyzed these positions as forms of denialism,[12][13] pseudoscience,[14] or propaganda.[15]

>The campaign to undermine public trust in climate science has been described as a "denial machine" organized by industrial, political and ideological interests, and supported by conservative media and skeptical bloggers to manufacture uncertainty about global warming.[16][17][18]

>>12750514
>organized by industrial, political and ideological interests
Damn these evil interests who want me to eat non-bugs, own something and be unhappy!

>>12750541
yes good slave, you exist to CONSUME your life has no other meaning

>>12750553
I can starve on my own if I'll want to!

>>12750514
Only the ones that agree with me are right.

>>12750553
And not consuming=meaning?

>>12750619
hey all i did was follow your link dude, what else could you have wanted me to see?

>>12750412
No. It's a concept.

But at least its a theory of human intelligence, niggers are the dumbest in the theory and asians the smartest.

>>12750685
You cannot measure the mind as a single dimensional object you can measure with a single number.

>>12750765
You can.

>>12750308
I am not rich.

>>12750786
Starving Africans are doing it non stop, what's you're excuse?

>>12750670
I don't like you

>>12750514
>denialism
lmao it has literally become its own religion.

>>12750541
climate change is real, but the main reason for it is overpopulation, we should unironically start implementing mass sterilization as a climate change prevention tool and also as a form eugenics

>men 28%
>women 18%

Young men are not driving the decline, women are. Women have always been the natural gatekeepers of sex, that is why rape is such a heinous crime. Women are competing for sex with the more attractive men, while the most attractive men don't care and will bang 4/10s cus why not. This leaves the less attractive men with nothing.

>>12750968
Go away, Bill Gates

>>12750989
does Bill Gates root for eugenics?

>>12750983
>that is why rape is such a heinous crime.
Correction. That's why raping women is a heinous crime, while raping men (e.g. prison rape) is hilarious and encouraged. And is why the CDC strictly defines rape to mean forcefully penetrated, while defining male-rape as "made to penetrate". Hence most rape is done on women, because when men are raped, it's formally not rape.

>>12750803
why not dude, I asked for proof, got a link and pasted what I found from the link. Is there something else you wanted me to see?

>>12750168
good
humans are a failed species and we deserve to dissapear

>>12751068
I don't need a reason

>>12750685
Intelligence isn't real

>>12751074
fair, I guess I'm just not used to people talking about their feelings so much on a science board.

>>12750775
No you cant and you cant prove you can

>>12751087

>>12751087
Its a spook. You cant measure it, assigning a random number to it is not a measurement.

>>12750553
Imagine being conditioned to protect the people who are destroying your planet.
>Yes, good little boy, defend us as we slowly kill you.

>>12750825
Denying facts without an substantial empirical evidence is denialism. You can deny that you're going to die a virgin, but it doesn't make you being a khv a religion.

>>12751141
>Imagine being conditioned to protect the people who are destroying your planet.
I unironically can't tell if this is a Greta quote or not

>>12751141
Slaves are usually exploited for their labor and get nothing in return except food and a shack to sleep until they die of exhaustion. To define consoomers as slaves is embarrasing pilpul, a.k.a semantic-semitic games. The slave is the literal opposite of the consoomer.
Hint: Anyone decrying over the consoom culture is a coping poorfag that isnt consuming much. His cope is sour grapes, he cant consoom so consoom bad.

>>12751178
>Definition of slave
>1 : a person held in servitude as the chattel of another
>2 : one that is completely subservient to a dominating influence
seems to describe the position of a CONSOOMER quite well. Just because the pig is fat and happy doesn't mean it's free.

>>12751178
Don't think
don't feel
don't question

just... CONSOOOOOOM

>>12751189
How is consuming products makes you the chattel of anyone else?

>>12751198
Consuming doesnt mean you cant think or question. Somehow you imply that not consuming makes you a better thinker? How is that possible?
People that dont consume become animals and they only think about getting some food.

>>12751207
>How am I chattel? I live in a warm barn and am given plenty of grain. Oink Oink

>>12751245
But the pig is a prisoner, while consumer are not prisoners. They are just normal people with material goods. Your analogy sucks because it attempts to equate two different situations. Do you think hungry homeless people are some sort of model for great thinkers
Go on, explain how owning material goods reduces your mental capacities in any way.

>>12750800
I don't live in Africa.

>>12750800
Incels dont just want sex, they want love.

>>12751266
>while consumer are not prisoners
oink oink

>>12751345
How are consumers prisoners? You have not explained how. The fact that you retort to silliness (oink oink?) just proves you have no argument.
Heres your argument:
-Have free man
-Free man acquires a material property
-...
-Slavery!
Literally how?

>>12751364
>Have man
>Man exists for no purpose other than to enrich others by trying to acquire material property
Slavery!
and he loves it

>>12751423
>hurr durr consoomerism is slavery
literally neomarxist rhetoric

>>12751423
Who says it has to be for no other purpose? You know who wants nothing but material goods? Poor people.
How do you go from "want material goods" to "only want material goods"?

>>12750168
Seen this graph around 4chan a lot. Is there an updated version?

>>12751423
>Pic related looks clean. Clearly a recently freed slave but now free and reaching new intellectual heights, yet still keeps her old habits of craving consumption

>>12751051
Women enjoy being spiteful and harmful to men while weaving the illusion that they're the more compassionate and benevolent sex.

>>12751345
>Dont consume goy. Material world bad. Calories bad.

>>12751423
We get, we should wear mask, own nothing, eat bugs and be happy.

>>12751364
>How are consumers prisoners?

Not the same poster but:

Debt slavery is pretty real. Consumers are prisoners to their desires. This keeps them from seeing higher pursuits and aspirations and freeing themselves from the various systems of control.

The easy analogy is drug dealers who give the first hit free to create an addict. The addict is a slave to the chemistry and enriches the drug dealer to get his fix.

Same thing with modern advertising and culture.

>>12751536
>masks bad
what the fuck are you even doing here you midwit, go back to /pol/, this board is for people with IQ above two standard deviations

>>12750983
That's the natural outcome of men being more horny than women. Supply and demand.

>>12751537
You are just describing poverty. Having debt means you will ultimately consume less in the long term for some short term consumption. Productive people can consume without falling into debt.

>>12751123
Of course I can. Every complex thing can be measured via a single parameter.

>>12751513

If you are ever homeless you cannot ask for Money because of the fact that you are in a socio economic system and by the rules of that system you lost.

Therefor you can only ask for resources, like food or water.

>>12751538
Greta-san, we can see you behind your mask.

>>12751544
Can you describe a 2 hour video with a single number? Such a feat of compression

>>12751537
>higher pursuits and aspirations
Only rich people can have higher pursuits and aspirations. Starving people only think about getting some bread.

>>12751553
Yes, I can rate it and often such a rating will be informative. In fact, I can rate it as 0/1: worth watching or not worth watching.

>>12751547
Silly dogmatism. Homeless people can ask for money. I have given them money. I give food to stray cats because they dont have pockets to carry cash.

>>12751542
You focused on one sentence and ignored the rest of it.

Advertising utilizes psychology to manipulate people into consuming things that don't provide them long-term satisfaction. It really operates much like drug dealers and actively prevents people from pursuing self-betterment that leads to greater self-esteem.

Maybe the other poster is right in calling you a pig.

>>12751558
But thats not a description of the video. The rating is not the video. The rating does not reproduce the complexity of the video. Not even close, this is why movie critics write little essays with hundreds of words to describe their impression of a film, a single number does not describe it.

>>12751554
>You are either rich or starving

The vast majority of people in first world countries are kept fat and docile. They are neither starving nor have aspirations. That's the reason consooming is mocked, related to the cooming meme of empty self-gratification.

>>12751565
>that don't provide them long-term satisfaction
That's not a well-justified assumption: the satisfaction may well be long-term.
It is not even useful: a piece of bread or a glass of water provide only short-term satisfaction and you need to search for more soon after.

>>12751565
How boring are you

>>12751568
Being well-off and having no aspirations always beats being impoverished and having no aspirations.

>>12751565
>self-betterment
It's easier to self-better when you are rich.

>>12751568
Poor people in poor countries are far more docile, far more repressed. Turns out impoverishing NPCs doesnt awake their inner philosopher king.

>>12751567
Of course, science and art provide only a simpler reflection of the world complexity too. That does not mean that they are not immensely useful and fun.

>>12751594
In case you forgot the point is you cant describe complexity with a single number. In fact you cant even describe most geometrical figures.
A cylinder has two parameters: Length and diameter. Can you describe a cylinder with a single number? Think of your own mind, is it simpler than a cylinder?

>>12751423
My purpose is first and foremost to enrich myself (and a small group of people I like). Others are the means for that.

>>12751608
Yes, with its volume? This measurement is already very useful both theoretically and practically. Of course there are other useful measurements, but that does not cancel the one mentioned above.
Same with the mind: a lot of simple parameters give a lot of information about it. IQ is one of them, but you can use different ones if you need to. You don't need to describe the position of every atom inside the brain, that will be useless.

what a surprise, a climate denial thread isn't about science but is instead nothing but political shitposting

You need to put one topic in title, one in name, two in post and three in your picture.

>>12751628
The volume does not describe the cylider. It describes a feature of a cylinder, so its an incomplete description.
I can describe a book by saying "it has pages with words" and it would be true, yet a horribly incomplete and useless description.

>>12751631
>climate denial
I believe that climate actually exists.

>>12751648
That's not what description is, otherwise almost all descriptions would be impossible and useless. If you describe the scenery, you don't describe every leaf and every atom. Same with the cylinder and the mind.
>I can describe a book by saying "it has pages with words" and it would be true, yet a horribly incomplete and useless description.
It has some use, unlike the full copy of a book content. I'll just read the book for that, when I want description, I want something brief.

>>12751651
I mean you're actually ahead of probably half this thread if you can actually admit that.

>>12751667
>>12751631

why there are recently so many retarded /pol/ tourists on this board? maybe we should introduce something like a calculus captcha with simple school-tier derivatives/differentials/integrals or shit like that

>>12751663
All descriptions somehow attempt to carry relevant information within practical limits. For something like a cylinder you can absolutely enumerate the two numbers that describe it (length and diameter). Its not a lot of effort.
How would you describe a person? Realistically? By its height? Weight? These are single numbers but thats a horrible description. It lacks so much information that would not even be a bad description, anyone would mock you if you described a person by its height or weight.
Face it, you need nearly infinite parameters to describe complexity. If you can do infinite, try something like a few hundred parameters at least, put on some effort, a single parameter is a joke.

>>12751681
you're literally posting science basedjak memes on a science board

>>12751705
There's a difference between the genuine appreciation of the scientific method and dogmatically defending popscience like a smug redditor

>>12751714
And there's also mindlessly attacking science like some kind of African witchdoctor.

>>12751714
discussing science on a science board is dogmatically defending popscience?

>>12751688
checked'n'based, dimwits who cannot solve simple calculus should not be allowed to post here

>>12751784
Yup. Now talk about anime

>>12751576
People are convinced to eat trash food that isn't nourishing. They are convinced to watch television that isn't intellectually stimulating.

You compare people being conned into fads to drinking a glass of water. You're being completely dishonest here. Comparing basic necessities to buying the latest iGagdet every year because you've been brainwashed into brand loyalty is laughable. You are cattle.

>>12751585
I don't think anyone was arguing for poverty.

>>12751589
It is easier to self-better when you aren't brainwashed and full of high fructose corn syrup.

>>12751590
Again, nobody was arguing for poverty. You only have strawmanning available because your lifestyle is empty.

>>12751826
>You compare people being conned into fads to drinking a glass of water.
Both are consooming with double o. It's you who is trying to cherrypick.

>>12751826
>I don't think anyone was arguing for poverty.
4chan does not have many rich people, so when you fight for them to become poorer, you argue for poverty.

>>12750331
>yerba mate in a can
>with lemon
>retarded mayan name when yerba mate comes from the guarani
Fucking Americans

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