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>>12736726No Edition Edition
Topics temporarily banned from discussion due to recent spikes in background autism levels, investigation ongoing: >terraforming >dyson spheres>self-replicating nanotechnology >bricks
>>12736749the old poster has taken an extended break it seems. Somebody else will have to start doing it or someone will have to tell OP to get his shit together
POV: You are the Boeing PR team after Starliner fucks up again.
>>12736730god i wish i could look up that skirt. sandy monroe got to look up sn15's skirt. what a slutty starship
apology for poor englishwhen were you when boeing dies?i was sat at home drinking rp-1 when anon post'boing is kill’‘no’
>>12736760A post this based shouldn't be possible
Bros I really wanna know what the fuck is up with those vesicular rocks near Perseverance. I don’t know why a volcanic rock would be near a crater delta, but I also don’t see how a sed rock could be differentially weathered like that. Can’t wait to see what the USGS has to say about it >>12736757Kek
>>12736753If you're going to have a moratorium on bricks you need one on proonting too.
>>12736753The autism surrounding proont, however, seems to have died down somewhat.
>>12736769>>12736767Fuck, never mind.
>>12736767>>12736769Rip
>>12736772>>12736775I'm just fucking saying cunts, the proont autist triggered the brick autist.
>>12736764There is this shipworm that digs limestone.
>>12736764I thought they said it was some explosive ash deposit or somethin. i also read the particular spot had basalt
>>12736791>>12736764>That's a mineral that is very interesting to us, and thoughts are that this could be an explosive ash deposit into Jezero Crater. On the other hand, we are in a lake basin and these could be lake sediments that we're seeing.
>>12736781Imagine if the weird data hoarding is because of NASA/JPL running their lockdown protocol for life detention to get all their shit order before the announcement. Basically impossible but still. Has any previous rover landed in a lake delta or otherwise previously underwater region mars? It’s possible that if life did exist on mars it was only the in the oceans because the window for life there was so much smaller
>>12736764>Bros I really wanna know what the fuck is up with those vesicular rocks near Perseverance. I don’t know why a volcanic rock would be near a crater delta, but I also don’t see how a sed rock could be differentially weathered like that. Can’t wait to see what the USGS has to say about itI'm not sure what characteristic speaks to differential weathering. I think it looks like igneous rock, which is often similarly porous.
>>12736791Hmmm Mars really pisses me off because I struggle to understand it. I did undergrad geology research on soil dynamics on Mars, and my old advisor works at NASA. I always asked him about how to understand the geology but I could never wrap my head around it. I hope I can go there one day though to study it in person
>>12736798>Imagine if the weird data hoarding is because of NASA/JPL running their lockdown protocol for life detention to get all their shit order before the announcement. Basically impossible but still. Has any previous rover landed in a lake delta or otherwise previously underwater region mars? It’s possible that if life did exist on mars it was only the in the oceans because the window for life there was so much smallerI still can't figure out how or why it wouldn't be anonymously leaked that they might have found life; they're bigger and more enthusiastic nerds about this kind of thing than we are.
>>12736798Curiosity was in a lake
>>12736804Pretty sure it would have been leaked straight away if there was something damning. Burning your career to be the one who breaks the news of life off earth is a solid deal.
>>12736799Yeah it looks igneous, but I’m sure we will get closer pics soon enough. Might be the very first thing they look at. There’s always a chance it’s a sed rock trying to fool us
We have quite some time before Perseverence gets to the carbonate shoreline in Jezero Lake. The entire thing looks like a limestone bathtub ring. If life was there, you'll find the smoking gun in that deposit (blue & green areas on the left)
>>12736807The what do they expect perseverance to find that curiosity didn’t
>>12736829An ESA contract
>>12736808I feel like it would be kept a little better than that. Leaking it a little early wouldn’t change anything and most people working at JPL + the chief leadership at NASA are smart enough to consider that
>>12736829River deltas are really good at preserving microfossils for billions of years. Clear evidence of carbonates, which if you found on Earth we generally assume it's made of ancient life like microbial mats
>>12736837I see. Thanks for explaining
>>12736837Geology is so based. Definitely one of the more underrated sciences.
>>12736841You could make a strong argument that geology and astronomy are equal in scope and importance. My geology professor insisted that astronomy and geology were the same science
>>12736847Gene Shoemaker typed this post
>>12736829wouldn't you like to know...
>>12736847Until astronomers start imaging exoplanets they can fuck off and get out of the way.
>>12736847They’re eventually the same, for sure. It takes the same type of person to get autistically obsessed about matter and how things crystallize/form from small to large scale and stuff. It’s hard to put into words but they are basically both “the study of the universe”. But astronomers are typically weirdos and geologists are chads
>>12736764https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumice
Watching for all mankind 2nd episode and I'm pissed off at them slandering Von Braun. Is this show going to go all SJW on me?
>>12736889>Watching for all mankind 2nd episode and I'm pissed off at them slandering Von Braun. Is this show going to go all SJW on me?You know that it will.
>>12736891I hate modernity. Thinking pic related somehow makes him some Himmler tier villain is outrageous. The normies will now think poorly of Von Braun and they had that kike making a joke about him. I just wanted to be a centrist. fuck
>>12736730based squid poster
>>12736726We Quatermass now
>>12735636We Quatermass now
>>12735442The 737 is still the most produced airliner, the A320 has more orders however
>>12736889to be fair to the show, it makes it clear that von Braun is really getting cast out as he's become politically inconvienent to the nixon administration.however, the show's treatment of deke slayton is inexcusable.
>>12736862Geology is frighteningly multi-disciplinary also though. You need good biology along with chemistry and physics.
Surprised to see so many geofags in /sfg/
>>12736781I hate that
>>12737061>however, the show's treatment of deke slayton is inexcusable.Wtf do they do to Deke?
>>12737076Yeah it’s all fun and games until you realize you have to bust your ass just for a B.S. in geology, and then there’s no fucking jobs once you graduate. Im graduating this summer and I have no idea what i’m gonna do. I decided not to do my masters because i’m just burned the fuck out. Might get it sometime later on though
>>12737099deke gets mortally injured in an accident and decides to spend his last few minutes alive berating someone for being a lesbian.honestly, pretty based now that I think about it.
>>12737082Rockets and rocks are the only things that matter in space
>>12736726I came here only to say that Heinlein is the best scifi author of all time, and that he's my favorite writer ever, not because of political views for sure, but damn he wrote amazing books. The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is a must read for /sfg/.
>Watch news>Another Boeing plane fell apart mid-flight.
>>12736756Maybe he was the one who got a 3-day vacation for stealth Krystal posting?
>>12737082geos will be among the first on mars. most space exploration is basically us using rockets to look at rocks so it makes sense.
>>12737203747 was the last good Boeing, poor thing just got too old.
Terraform Urf.
>>12737133That's fucking retarded but I like it — for the wrong reasons. Why must they add these stupid things?
>>12736753PRONT
Did we get photos from the rover yet
complete the sentence:if it's boeing...
>>12737061yeah those two episodes were borderline unbearable. the show would have been perfect without them
>>12737258..I am going!Warning: poster may have suicidal tendencies
>>12737258cost plus contracts are growing
>It’s a Musk has time to make 50 tweets about retarded crypto shit but no time at all for an interview with Tim Dodd about starship fuckups episode
>>12737258it better be jumbo jet
>>12737252for a moment I read "expendable engines" kek
>>12737258...it's not flying
Why aren't any of the new images from Perseverance being uploaded to its website?
In death, a comrade cosmonaut has a name. His name was Vladimir Komarov.
>>12737406I don't get this reusable engine meme
>>12737258space industry's boring
Does NASA not upload new raw images on the weekend or something?
>>12737559>>12737474The handling of this mission has been weird in that regard, but maybe it's because they want to maximize hype as much as possible.
>>12737258my options i'm weighing
>>12737258it's exploding
CSP powered regolith forge on the moon and on mercury
>>12737669Forgot pic
>>12737566Or they landed right on top of a Martian dolphin skeleton
>>12737081Sexy thicc girl, will probably fap to later
I've made $150 on Dogecoin because of Musk's shitposts
>>12736759kys pedo
>>12736730Imagine the smell
>>12737753it's not pedo if it's anime
>>12737258engines are glowing
>>12737474because muh deadly 99.99% survivable death virus>>12737699wow very coin
>nothing happening>thread turns to shit POST THE PICTURES NASA
>>12737804the renderfarm is working overtime...
>>12737218SP version too, good taste sir
>>12736726All this talk of For All Mankind abs I’m here hoping someone eventually makes a miniseries out of Stephen Baxter’s “Voyage.”An “Eyes Turned Skywards” series would be great too
What are things going to look like in 50 years?
>>12737841Only for the better
when elon dies, this shit is all over
>>12737841Everything will be fire
>>12736726POV: You’re a producer for Netflix. Your boss has told you that in order to capitalize off the success of Amazon’s For All Mankind, you have to make your streaming service have their own alternate history space story. Your boss tells you to make a series about “Eyes Turned Skywards.” How would you do it.>ETS has no actual characters and just follows events through time
>>12737841Hopefully things will be much further along but if spaceflight ends up looking no more different then than it does now I wouldn't be surprised.
>>12737861>POV: You’re a producer for NetflixI kill myself.
>>12737781lol
Rockets prove black project UFO tech doesnt exist. The incompetance of established defense contractors and governments prove the same.That being said, is there any good footage out there of rockets hitting the dome?
>>12737861From the earth to the moon did a great job without focusing on any particular main characters, so i would rip that off in a fully fictional mocumentary.
>>12737836>500 days mission
>>12737924From the Earth to the Moon is great and is required viewing for all spaceflight enthusiasts.
>>12736035As far as a Hawaii-equivalent refueling station planet goes probably Venus. If you have plasma magnet sails and solar panels you can arrive AND leave without expending more than RCS propellant, and for leaving it's "upwind" of everything but Mercury.If you have torch ships, then probably wherever is easiest to fill up on water propellant in the outer system. Maybe Ceres or Saturn.
Hypothetically, how would one go about dyson sphereing?
>>12737998Mine Mercury into pieces and shoot focusing mirrors into a low sun orbit, take advantage of exponential growth and completely CONSOOM mercury
>>12737998Convince Mercury to dismantle itself
>>12737804It is standard practice worldwide to keep images until demanded for propaganda purposes by the Party.
>>12737998just push it, you use an omega engine. but first, we're gonna science the shit out of it
When are we finally gonna see an Electron launch from Wallops?
>>12737998Just hire the Kurztygassagt guys to do it for you.
>>12737804I should post more Krystal to liven up the thread
>>12738010>>12738012>>12738052Asking because I’m retarded and need it for my cringe sci-fi story. Takes place in a different solar system though so Mercury is null. Smart people explain.
>>12737841The Singularity might have happened by then so by definition nobody knows. I don't know if the machine gods will keep us around.
>>12738081Convince the planet Kercury to disassemble itself.
>>12738081People on /sci/ hate on them, but honestly just watch the Kurzgesagt video on it for a decent overview and expand off that.
>>12737861South American immigrant named Elton Munsk creates some tech companies and funds a rocket startup called SpaceZ. Thier first rocket, the Millenium 1, reaches orbit and gets a big NASA contract. This allows Munsk to create the partially resuably Millenium 9 rocket which revolutionizes the space industry. SpaceZ then makes this massive fully reusable Mars rocket called Spaceship which colonizes Mars.Meanwhile, Elton Munsk trolls everyone by shitposting on Twitter and buying meme stocks.
>>12738096Got anymore stupid ideas?
>>12738100Yeah, play the video game that is about constructing a Dyson Sphere piece by piece.
>22 years in orbitImagine the smell
>>12737998You mean actual sphere? You don't.>>12738107It's pretty fun.It does need a couple of mods to make the late game playable though.
>>12738068This year, supposedly.
>>12737841You will eat bugs.You will live in a pod.You will be gay.You will own nothing.You will be happy.
>>12737841Like now but worse.>africa_pop_chart.jpg
>>12737841
>>12738209The good news though is that the number of Christians in the world will rise further. However, 1/2 of them will be African so take from that what you will.
>2 MW 795 nM DPAL laser (4 meter mirror) w/ thousands of km range, Space Shuttle RCS, AESA radar, 2 railguns, 8 Phalanx-style CIWS, retractable radiators, liquid hydrogen drop-tanks>265 VLS cells to house Quad stacked KKV's or Dual Stacked Boosted KKV's>2250 Tons Wet mass, 11.5-12 km/s Delta-V, 20 MWe reactor, 30 Days Endurance max, Nextel-Kevlar Whipple Shield>12 km/s deltaV from a combination of nuclear thermal hydrogen, nuclear thermal hydrogen augmented with oxygen afterburners, and simple hydrogen/oxygen boosters>It really depends on the ISP it can get in afterburing mode. Right now I can get 10 km/s off of the main drive with half being in Afterburing mode. >I then get 1.5-2 km/s with the 200 tons of LH2/LOX RCS propellant.>operates only within the Earth-Moon systemhttps://twitter.com/ToughSf/status/1291298215019438080How realistic is this near future space warship?
>>12738276>USSF Alan Shepard Engaging leftover enemy KKV's in Lunar Orbithttps://twitter.com/L5Resident/status/1291566336380993536
>USSF Shepard engaging enemy contacts in LEO
>>12738276LH2 propellant in a warship is bad news. Your endurance will be limited by boil off, so all people have to do for a soft kill is shine heat lasers on your LH2 tanks.
>>12738281kek, one hit from an enemy and the whole fucking ship would be rendered useless. Space warfare is so gay unless we have Orion battleships
>>12737133>>12737228That is absolutely based but I'm sure they paint it as a bad thing.
>>12737258So many scarebus shills ITT
>>12738318Fuck Airbutts. I just want Lockheed to give Boing! some domestic competition again, or Cessna.
>>12738308It reminds me of armored warfare where tanks and other armored vehicles are expensive high end machines but can be easily defeated with a single shot from the enemy.
>>12738324Aircraft carriers only need one (1) (one) hit from a torpedo and the whole thing is rendered useless lmao. Doesn't even need to be a sophisticated or high-yield weapon. Tbh I'm surprised more of them haven't been sunk, but then again we haven't really waged war on another Navy since WWII
>>12738333>Aircraft carriers only need one (1) (one) hit from a torpedo and the whole thing is rendered useless lmao.Untrue
>>12738333The primary job of the rest of the US Navy is to protect the carriers and boomers.
>>12738308Battles in space will look more like submarine combat desu and not epic broadsides between two space battleships.
>>12738349So based
>>12738349I'M GONNA UNTERSPACEBOOOOOOOT!
>>12738349Submarines are cool, I feel like submarine crews would make for better space force personnel than anyone else
>>12738374Well they are used to living in windowless tin cans strapped to nuclear reactors. Give them some training and they'll be alright.
>DiscoveryI knowBut I still liked the Shepard class USS Gagarin, though it was doomed from the beginning.
>>12738333Okay retard. Aircraft carriers are really fucking hard to sink, just look at this docu about turning a old aircraft carrier in a reef, the amount of work that was needed to get the thing to take on water. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2-Aew7SMO8
>>12738379Despite the sinaboo name/captain I thought the USS Shenzhou's layout was pretty smart for a science ship. Put the bridge on the bottom so you can look at the body you're studying, same way the ISS cupola faces Earth, and the underslung nacelles double as landing gear.
>>12738349>>12738308I think people trying to imagine space combat are coming at it from the wrong direction. Instead of looking at "types" of conventional warfare and "space-ifying" them, you should consider the how and why of engagement between the most likely opponents of space conflict – Starship and a future Changship copy, in LEO.
>>12738389>Starship and a future Changship copy, in LEOLure them into the path of the killsats and poke holes in the walls between their hypergolic propellant tanks with lasers.
No starship show no launch cummies maybe tomorrow maybe next month
>>12738389Starship will be obsolete for decades before anyone else has meaningful warship capacity.
>>12736726What would a hypothetical Changship look like?
If the Outer Space Treaty didn't exist and space would have been militarized, would've things gone faster for space?
>>12738408for sure
>>12738406On fire, in pieces, leaking hypergolic fumes, and scattered across multiple Chinese villages.
>>12738401Starship will be used exclusively as Surface-to-orbit cargo ferries once legitimate space battles begin.
>>12738406Starship, but with half the internal cargo volume, no sea level engines, and parachutes instead of propulsive landing
>>12738421and hypergolics
>>12738374This was my point the other day about NASA's virtue signalling. Within days of leaving earth their Globohomonauts would be in a corner rocking back and forth and refusing food
>>12738426Oh yeah that too lmao, meant to include that
I want to do this in Skyrim. Now, if only I can gather the fucking patience to do alchemy and enchanting.
>>12738401What's preventing the USSF from just ordering a Starship with Kratos point defense lasers, a bank of standard Mk 41 VLS cells, and an off the shelf electronic warfare suite? You could arm a Starship with existing technology.
>>12736800You need to understand that Mars geology is what Earth geology would look like if we had no free oxygen and no water cycle. Basically all the cool shit that gets immediately weathered/dissolved/eroded on Earth will just happily sit there for billions of years on Mars. Shit like volcanic minerals that have 20%, 50%, 80% sodium chloride content which are extruded as magma and solidify as they cool will be perfectly stable on Mars, whereas on Earth they would exist until the next rain storm, and even just sitting there they would be disturbed by absorption of humidity from the air.
>>12738442What's preventing them? There's no real enemy to fight even if they ordered something like that.
>>12738427>Within days of leaving earth their Globohomonauts would be in a corner rocking back and forth and refusing foodWould they cut the public streams or let the world watch the True Power of Vibrant Diversity in Action?
pad upgrade nearly complete
>>12738442The same reason they only dipped their toes into Hypersonic weapons until near-peers started doing it. It would cause an escalation that isn’t necessary right now.
>>12738406literally an older version of starship. Similar to how they stole an older version of tesla's codebase. But considering how quickly spacex iterates this probably won't work out well for them.
>>12738450>Starship will be obsolete before there's an opponent for a USSF Starship to fight>everyone else is 5-10 years behind StarshipUnless you're thinking of 18m Starship, I don't see what obsoletes the architecture any time soon. And even then, 9m Starships are probably going to be flying for decades simply because they're handier. 18m is fuckhuge.
>>12737076Yeah to really have a general understanding of the processes that occur inside a given non-stellar celestial body you need an understanding of nuclear decay, chemistry in a range of environments going from vacuum to gigapascales and near absolute zero to over 20,000 celsius, the chemical processes that are changed by a difference in elemental concentration from a few tenths of a percent to entirely different, 100% substituted minerology, etc etc. Plus you need to understand gravitational tidal interactions, hypervelocity impacts, the stellar lifecycle and how stellar remnants work, etc. "Knowing" geology well enough to make 90% accurate predictions about the interior of Enceladus or whatever is pretty much the same thing as "knowing" engineering well enough to be able to be able to invent a new machine by yourself that does 90% of what you want it to be able to do, just given a couple of broad features (ie, I want a FFSC engine that achieves high TWR and high manufacturability).
>>12738465I never said anything about it being obsolete. I just agree with >>12738462's reasoning. It would be like trying to build an F-35 when everyone else basically has paper mache WWI aircrafts
>>12737841we'll be fine. we have the means to address every problem facing us. necessity dictates all
>>12738460how the fuck do you know? also it's not a pad upgrade, it's patching, bc spacex cant land a rocket apparently (or build strong enough concrete lmao). why tf do they need concrete anyway, i'm constantly told by fanatics these steel trash cans are meant to land on uneven dirt terrain. laughable
>>12738476I assumed you were the guy I replied to, my mistake
>>12738462this is why. every major power has military strategists worrying about a risky arms race
>>12738476Because I WANT milspace to escalate.
>>12738487It's all good>>12738492So do I, but the fact that everyone and their mother has nukes now kind of fucks everything up.
>>12738469My dad was a university lecturer in geology and had all kinds of weird old biology textbooks, but then he was old enough to have seen the validation for plate tectonics, which many geologists were laughing at even into the 1960s. Mad eh. I guess lots of them had careers staked on plate tectonics not being true
>>12738492The closest you’re gonna get for now is USSF Starlift, imagine the Chang seethe
Anyone got the Perseverance images up intil now?
Space warfare, but kinetic weapons like missiles and railguns are banned like mines on Earth: because they are too destructive to the local environment. Lasers for errbody!
>>12738514MONDAY. THEY SAID IT MULTIPLE TIMES STOP ASKING HOLY SHIT
>>12738515If we ever got into a real situation where we were fighting the Chinese or Russians in LEO, no one would give a shit about debris. In fact I would be willing to bet that both sides would purposefully detonate kinetic weapons to just fuck the entire LEO sphere up
>>12738518No, the color pics they already released, I can only find the black and white ones with the cap still on.
>>12738544
>>12738525kessler syndrome is a meme parroted by antihumanists and environmentalists. in reality, the US should try to make LEO as dangerous as possible, then use Starship's upmass to deliver hardened tanksats that can withstand any kinetic impacts. the fragile mass efficient chinksats would stand no chance
>>12738546Thanks!
>>12738544oh, pardon me sir, i'm a bit of a hothead today. i think the only new pics are found here https://www.nasa.gov/content/perseverance-mars-rovers-first-images/
>>12738098come on, you have to make the plot at least somewhat plausible!
>>12738515I doubt that would happen. Besides, everyone knows we can clean up LEO when it eventually gets bad enough
>>12738556There's a lot of shit we discuss here that is pure popsci, but kessler syndrome is a real threat. You can't go to Mars if you can't even get a Starship to leave LEO before it gets shredded
>>12738556you're retarded. even the most robust satellite isn't going to withstand an impact of a piece of foil going 5,000 mph
>>12738562It just depends if countries find it useful to ban certain things.
>>12738098>Spaceshipwhy tf didnt musk just name it that. makes more sense and is less faggoty reddity than star ship (cringe)
>>12737998Build a space factory attached to a rotating habitatMine an asteroid or moon or planet for materialsBuild a second space factory and rotating habitatMine more materialsBuild 2 more space factories and habitatsMine more materialsBuild 4 moreetcReach a point at which you are limited by waste heat management in terms of materials mining ratesBuild space factories and habitats at this rate of materials fluxContinue until you run out of materials.Simple as.
>>12738564to be fair, before it ever gets to that point all space agencies will be operating laser debris scrubbers in LEO. and most satellites are going to have near term orbit decay built into them like starlink
>>12738560Perfect!
>>12738486>also it's not a pad upgrade, it's patchingT: retard >bc spacex cant land a rocket apparentlyThe sn8-SN14 wasn't even focused on landing. Thats why it has the shitty legs and why after SN8 flew they considered it such a success they stopped making SN12-14. >why tf do they need concrete anywayBecause its a prototype not the finished product. How retarded are you?
>>12738568Too generic
>>12738565>>12738564Hello Chang! boy do I have some bad news...
>>12738560>i'm a bit of a hothead todayGrow up
>>12738486>how the fuck do you know?1. I have eyes and 2. multiple people on-site are reporting it>also it's not a pad upgrade, it's patchingIncorrect. Rebar and concrete has been placed over the old pad in order to increase its strength.>why tf do they need concrete anyway, i'm constantly told by fanatics these steel trash cans are meant to land on uneven dirt terrainIn any kind of meaningful testing you strive to limit extraneous variables. You should have learned this in elementary school: https://www.thoughtco.com/understanding-variables-in-science-609060
>>12738573Oh yeah I feel like in the next ~50 years it will be extremely frowned upon if you are launching to space and leaving space debris. Things like Starship, New Glenn, Electron, etc. go out of their way to make sure nothing gets left behind. And satellites are being prioritized to burn up in due time now.BUT, and this is a big but, we can't stop people like China or India from blowing up satellites intentionally, or creating a purposeful debris field just to fuck up everyone else's access to space.
>>12738389railgun that shoots cups of sand
>>12738579imagine posting in a spaceflight thread and not understanding orbital velocities. it's not possible to build spacecraft that can withstand orbital impacts greater than a microparticles
>>12738579What's your point? Seriously, what the fuck are you trying to get at.
>>12738582you replied to obvious bait, consider necking yourself. they dont deserve ((((((you's))))))
>>12738581i will try my best, good sir. i am learning every day about how to better conduct myself. perhaps one day i will reach the stars
>>12738587I'm sure eventually the UN with have some sort of regulatory body for space debris. but in the near term it's not like a country doing that would limit us from reaching space, it would just be a temporary issue while we cleaned it up. what we need to be doing now is putting R&D money towards the tech that will be used to clean up LEO when we eventually need to
>>12738590thunderfag makes entire 45 minute videos shitting on spaceX and he doesn't even know what orbital velocity is. As an example of another fag doing fag retard shit.
>>12737111Go work for a mine
>>12738604>UNNot this shit again. Please rethink your life. The UN has literally no power, and we shouldn't entertain them with the idea that they do. Doesn't matter what stupid "rules" they pass, Chang and Ivan and Pooja are going to detonate kinetic weapons if they want to even if the USA acts like pussies and says "ummm guys pls don't, that's off limits!"
>>12738506Anybody know of any books on the history of geology? there's so many books about the development of other sciences, but the great figures in the history of geology and natural history are so overlooked. I hate physics for stealing the spotlight
>>12737111this is why i'm minoring in geology B^)
>>12738610Yeah I really want to. Even if I get moved out to the middle of bumfuck nowhere I think a dreamjob would be leading a bunch of fellow geologists into the mines and inspecting the rock and stuff. Would be a lot of fun, and I might be able to find a company that would pay for my masters or something>>12738618Are you looking for a textbook, or something more like the overall development of the field in general
>>12738616In my post I just said that it's not an issue in the long run regardless. And despite your belief that the UN has no power, it intermediates between nations on dozens of international issues, and its constituent nations take part willingly. I can't think of a more important thing that we should coordinate on than not smashing satellites into each other. I am so sick of retards that have no clue how anything works>The UN has literally no power, and we shouldn't entertain them with the idea that they dothis is something a high school student would say. "The UN" is not an independent organization- it's just a parliament of nations. We're literally the UN and so is every other country that matters
>>12738635You are so ignorant. Warfare has no rules retard. People like you are making America grow more weak by the day.
>>12738643True, but that has nothing to do with what we're talking about
>>12738387Ah, Shenzhou. She was alright, because they didn't commit the blatant copy-paste design like with the NXprise.
>>12738643exactly, I love it when retards cry about "illegal wars" and "war crimes" and lack of "due process" like wtf do you think this is?
>>12738652It doesn't matter if the UN institutes rules on LEO and kinetic weapons. If two countries with space capabilities ever started getting into a heated war, and the warfare made it's way to space, one-if not both-of the countries would tell the UN to fuck off and would detonate a kinetic weapon.
>>12738630not really, more like a book on the history of the development of the science and important figures throughout. there are tons of books like this about biology and physics
>>12738662So? That has nothing to do with making sure we don't clutter up near Earth orbit during peacetime. Are you saying that because space conflict will happen eventually we should just say fuck it and make a huge mess for ourselves later?
>>12738659The NX-01 is /comfy/. It's just a submarine turned into a space ship
>>12738587>we can't stop people like China or India from blowing up satellites intentionally, or creating a purposeful debris field just to fuck up everyone else's access to space.I'm pretty sure destroying a load of critical infrastructure of several nations would be considered an act of war.
>whining about kessler syndromeso you niggers have any idea how much SPACE there is in LEO?
>>12738680>t. has no clue how shotguns are dangerous
>>12738680>X is either the end of the world or not a problem at allit's not like it could happen today, but it could eventually become a serious enough problem that having large space stations in LEO becomes unfeasible until mirco debris is dealt with. I mean seriously you don't have to pick between the two extremes people
The Tesla Roadster is about to pass its perihelion, in a few hours. Were it to be an operational spacecraft, it could do a 1.6km/s burn to fly by Mars in 19 months.
>>12738680>>12738690anyone that gives into kessler syndrome talking point is losing the space culture war to antihumanists. if you want to know what the alarmists believe we should do to avoid it, watch this Verge shitpiece https://youtu.be/ZKKIAsQ-cwwthe solution is to just stop launching rockets lmao. it's another crabs in a bucket endgame strategy and /sfg/ is falling for it. you will never stop governments from creating debris in space. stop trying
>>12738700See >>12738695It isn't a problem if we actually attempt to handle it before it happens, which we absolutely can. However, if someone were to intentionally try to cause as much chaos as they could, then it very much would be a severe problem.
>>12738700Nobody is saying to stop launching rockets you moron. I don't care about some popsci youtube video. Orbital crowding is a real issue that real space agencies take seriously>>12738707fucking thank you. This idiot thinks that planning ahead is somehow capitulating to the chinese
>>12738696GIVER OF LIFE AND THE GIVER OF SPEEDEVER WE TAKE EVEN HER GRAVITYHER GLOWING BEAUTY IS SOMETHING TO SEEBIGGER AND BRIGHTER SHE COMETH TO MEPERIPERIHELIONPERIPERIHELION
>>12738709The guy in the video says exactly that. We need to stop launching rockets to figure it out and let nature go back to equilibrium those are the words the asshat uses. he's the one being paid to track debris
>>12738696https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MyfInT1y0c
>>12738718and how does that represent an existential threat to spaceflight? spaceflight is forever tied to strategic military use. nobody is stopping it. this single retard in your youtube video means nothing
>>12738709Not a popsci video, it's an interview with a guy that runs a space debris tracking company. These people agencies are consulting
>>12738673I don't say I disliked it. But the design wasn't just an inspiration, they literally took the 24th century space ship, flipped it, and redesigned into 22nd century one.
>SpaceX polluting atmosphere with CO2 exhaust>SpaceX polluting LEO with Starlink sats and F9 second stagesThank God Biden is president, this will be handled shortly. The hammer of regulation will come down on Musk, hopefully very soon
>>12736726Alright SFG pick your poison. I had fun writing this last thread so I’ll do it again.OPTION A>You are a low paid welder working for SpaceX in Boca Chica. You get to build Starships with your team and you can proudly say that you actually got to be hands on with a spaceship. Who else can say that? >However, if SpaceX changes their weld technique, you’re out of a job. You are also a single father, and if you lose your job, your child will have to go to a crappy public school. >Also, because you are spending so much money on your child’s education, you will never be able to afford a ride to space in your lifetime. OPTION B>You are an engineer working on the SLS at Boeing. Your job pays very well - upwards of $150K a year. You enjoy your co workers and your work environment. However, you work for an OldSpace company. Also, even though you dislike SLS, you know that if it is cancelled, you will be out of a job.>Back home you have a qt wife and several children. Your wife doesn’t work and you live in a higher-income neighborhood. If you lost your job at Boeing (and all of its income) your family would have to move.>Also you have a heart condition and you will never fly in space, no matter how much money you save. OPTION C>You are a millionaire who is diagnosed with an inoperable brain tumor. You have $60 million at your disposal, so you decide to book a ride on Crew Dragon to the ISS. The mission will last a week, and you’ll even be able to operate machinery on the ISS.>However, your brain tumor has given you a little over a year to live. Worse, the stresses from re-entry will kill you, making any voyage to space a one-way trip.>You have no family on Earth. No wife, no kids, no nothing. When you die, you’ll fade away into a memory.
>>12738736I remember people calling it the Upsidedownterprise at the time.
>>12738761
Solid state free electron lasers are needed in orbit. To clean up space debris by vaporization or pushing it to deorbit..
>>12738761I was surprised to hear Must would support a carbon tax on JRE. I don't if he's talk about that before
>>12738816And by space debris I mean anything ever launched by China.
>>12738761The federal government fining people for space litter by the gram would certainly encourage the development of fully reusable rockets.
>>12738276CIWS in space seems like a recipe for Kessler syndrome.
Starship test this week!
>>12738825it would be an operating expense, just like a carbon tax. no meaningful change. might kill the smallsat industry but not big wallet telecoms
>>12738781These are all awful.I'm much better off just being myself.
>>12738854
>>12738854Yeah right
>>12738854>good chance>this weekyup, see you all in Q2
>>12738781Obviously option b because even if I work for oldspace that doesn't mean starship won't existAlso, implying that a high-paid boeing engineer couldn't find a job elsewhere
>>12738781Option C, being the first of my country to die in space, I wont be forgotten, probably have some memorial. Also going into space is more meanigful to me than children.
>>12738854IT'S HOPPENING
>>12738854yeah ok elon
>>12738786Even Doug Drexler confirmed that's literally what happened, and to no one's surprise Rick Berman is to blame.
>>12738910What is it with Rick’s
>>12738854>hasn't static fired once>"flying this week"lol
>>12738910FYRB
>>12738917Exactly, who the fuck is Elon kidding? And watch them static fire it next week and blow out Raptors colon. Looking forward to that again
and in six months, we got only two starship launches. 3 in a day huh musk?
NASA press conference on Monday at noon https://youtu.be/gYQwuYZbA6oNew images and possibly a landing video to be revealed
>>12738921Yup, a tale as old as time now lol
>>12738936Mars next year xdxdxd
>>12737258stick to rowing
>>12738936and in ten years, we got only zero SLS launches. 3 in a year huh Boeing?
>>12738963they were planning on 3??
>>12738971Yeah they wanted to hit 3 launches a year by the “mid 2020s”
>>12738974mid 2020s means ~2025, not ~july of 2020
>>12738989>implying Aerojew Shekeldyne will EVER be capable of making a dozen SSMEs per year
>>12738993you mean Lockheed Martin
>>12739006oh that might actually be doable then
>>12738680not to mention that it's self-solving problem. Stuff in LEO will eventually burn up. Show this to anyone buying into debris hysteria: https://youtu.be/aRUaENzxH44
>>12738854so probably 2 weeks out
>>12739006Raytheon is suicing to stop the merger
>>12738618Sadly not
>>12738781Option A or Option B but I'd rather have option A
>>12739029suing*
>>12738546It does look bleak
>>12736726>Mars DirectCould it have worked? People say that the engine ISP estimates and mass estimates for the vehicles was very optimistic. However Zubrin said it would’ve costed less than $100 billion. Can someone describe a timeline where we go to Mars in the 00’s instead of making the ISS?
>>12739043It needs a casino and hookah bar
>>12739043It's just begging for a Denny's.
https://youtu.be/xh3EKDghbuUjupiter is pretty
>>12739051Visibility doesn't look so good either. Anyone know how far one could see on Mars? Is it dust?
pad concrete pour is complete. Could it really dry in time for a flight this week?
>>12739049>Could it have worked?It relied on an SLS-type vehicle being able to do multiple 120t-to-LEO launches per year so no.
>>12739067Why did we have to fall for the SLS meme? Why couldn’t we just use Shuttle-C?
>>12738913>>12738921Static fire is scheduled for tomorrow..
>>12739073>Why couldn’t we just use Shuttle-C?For whatever reason there was incredible screeching at the idea of operating both crewed Shuttles and Shuttle-C so it was viewed as an either/or thing.
>>12738875People, or rather "people" have been repeating MUH Q2 2021 since SN8
>>12739073>Expendables Pacific oceanShit I forgot how high up big orange goes
>>12739029are they really? I spose the solution is for Lockheed to bjy them too
>>12739065Depends on the mix obvs. Plenty of common mixes would be sufficiently hard within days, though concrete continues curing for decades, strangely enough
>Muh Kessler syndrome is dangerous we must stop all progress whatsoever
>>12739076I dont care when they schedule it, call me when they DO it
>>1273906548 hours is more than enough
>>12739109Can /sfg/ brainstorm any good reasons to cancel space? We must know the tactics our enemies will use against us so we may get in front of them.
>>12739112Money better spent on gibs
>>12739112>All the money spent on space could go to welfare!!!!!>Insert image of poor black childHowever, one could argue:>Well SpaceX is putting people of color on Mars!!!Which is a retarded argument but a true one and I guess helps SpaceX
Elon just released images of the prototype ISRU unit
>>12739112spess is too hwite
>>12739137L-lewd!
>>12739112Kessler syndrome, rocket pollution (muh climate), demilitarization, starlink trains (muh astronomy), gibs, treating budgets like a zero sum game, need more monies for covid stimulous goy
>>12739139Space is 99% black
>>12739112No, because the arguments used against space exploration won't be in good faith. It doesn't matter what reason they come up with and whether it makes sense or is actually true, they'll push it anyways. For example, complaining we spend too much on space – despite American women spending more per year on lipstick than NASA's entire budget
>>12739112>muh pennies for the poor>muh humans destroy everything>muh kessler syndrome>muh blocking out the stars from the poor sentinelese>muh bring covid to space>muh rich in space is problematic>muh what would the aliens think
>>12739139SpaceX launched the first nigger to space, Donald Glover! Congratulations Victor! Please tell the reporters, what does it feel like to be the first nigger launched to space?
>>12739155planetary protection and antihumanism piss me off extremely
>>12739148Kessler syndrome in leo is obviously a meme thanks to square cube law and the atmosphere.However is there a scenario where it could become a problem? Asteroid mining comes to mind since it would potentially make a very large amount of debris and could be done in areas that don't clean their own orbits.
>Access to the Internet is a human right!Just repeat this sentence over and over whenever someone criticizes Starlink.
>>12739157The first black astronaut was based too had he died during training>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Henry_Lawrence_Jr..>”Lawrence and other MOL astronauts laughed when asked at the announcement "Will you have to sit in the back seat of the capsule?" When asked if his selection was historic for race relations in the United States, Lawrence answered "No, I don't think so. It's another one of those things that we look forward to in civil rights — normal progression." He said that he had faced problems like other blacks, but "Perhaps I have been more fortunate than the others in the opportunities." Donald H. Peterson, chosen for MOL with Lawrence, said "I can't speak for all the people in Mississippi" but that he was not reluctant to work with a black man.”
>>12739049Team mini
>>12739179Not a bad idea. I can’t see SpaceX ever doing that, but it’s what I would do
>>12739174what a way to go, ouchy
>>12739137That rockpussy is too much like a human one, I need a weirder hole.
>>12739154This. Anti-spacers have built up a fantasy based on their hatred of the rich that Elon and his rich friends are gonna abandon Earth for a planet that is less habitable than Earth will ever be and where they would really have to work to live. That and Kessler syndrome, something that the US government is already working to mitigate without needing to shut down spaceflight.
>>12739174>>12739198>”At age 32, Lawrence was killed in a plane crash at Edwards AFB on December 8, 1967.[1] He was flying backseat in an F-104 as the instructor pilot for flight test trainee Major Harvey Royer, who was learning the steep-descent glide technique. Royer made such an approach but flared too late.”>”The airplane struck the ground hard, its main gear failed, it caught fire, and rolled. The canopy shattered and the plane bounced and skidded on the runway for 2,000 feet (610 m). Major Royer ejected upward and survived, with major injuries. The back seat, which delays a moment to avoid hitting the front seat, ejected sideways, killing Lawrence instantly. He was still strapped to his ejector seat; his parachute failed to open and was dragged 75 feet (23 m) from the wreck.”>”Had Lawrence lived, he likely would have been among the MOL astronauts who became NASA Astronaut Group 7 after MOL's cancellation, all of whom flew on the Space Shuttle.”
what's the point of curing the concrete when SN10 crashes anyway
>>12739217What if it doesn’t crash?
>>12739215Fucking Starfighters man, they look good but they really where deathtraps
I wonder what would happen if animals were pooping in space. I want to bring my dog, but what if he poops and pees everywhere? They need poop vacuums all over the ship for sure
>>12739168It's incredibly ironic to me that [certain forces which will not be named] will angrily decry anything anti-populist and then put hobbyists complaining about their pretty pictures over something that is already meaningfully changing the lives of poor and remote villages. Just shows how skin deep it all is.
>>12739237Why did so many astronauts bite it flying T-38s?
>>12739195Not only it's cute, but I like its deployment from cargo Starship.
how do you unironically find people IRL who are interested in spaceflight? Would be easy in US, but not in yuropoor
>>12739237>they look goodYou wot
>>12739255I cannot fathom wanting to connect with irl normies on anything but a superficial level. Maybe it's just the autism.
>>12739254If I was SpaceX, at least for the first few missions, I’d use a vanilla Starship as a Mars Transfer Vehicle to get the crew there and back but not land. I’d have a dedicated lander starship too just to keep ISRU fuel production low especially because it’s an unproven technology
>>12739254Zubrin will kill himself when he realizes mini starship is never happening. it will be the final straw after decades of not being listened to, mars direct completely abandoned. i only wonder how he'll do it
>>12739110Okay so tomorrow
>>12739252Maybe because T-38 is the standard NASA astronaut flight trainer? You gotta fly it to crash it.
>>12739275they wont dumbass
>>12739277All the first astronauts were test pilots it wasn’t like they were just learning how to fly.
>>12739258They absolutely look like 1970s sci fi Starfighters. Tell me you couldn't imagine OG Galactica launching F-104s.
>>12739277shoulda saved dead astronauts for the moon
>>12739274He'll take a mini-overdose
>>12739286idk I've just always found them to be the ugly duckling of US fighters, didn't realize anyone liked them except ironically
>>12736817Is this a colorized map showing LSD deposits?
>>12739286>They absolutely look like 1970s sci fi Starfighters.Yep. Oddly enough Starship looks older, like out of 1950s scifi.
>>12739287Several Apollo astronauts (four I think?) died because of T-38 crashes.
https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/multimedia/raw-images/Looks like Perseverance just had an image dump
>>12739255Work in STEM, it's that easy
>>12739263I still dream about finding someone as retarded and autistic as me, who I could talk about space for hours.
>>12739316This, even webshitter programming jobs will put you in contact with people who can appreciate a good launch stream.
>>12739314Based
>>12739316Studying comp sci, not gonna happen.
>>12739314how? anon said it failed
Why hasn’t anyone posted the rover pictures
>>12739346uh oh...this isnt good bros
>>12739346/sfg/ is full of dorks instead of nerds like it should be
>>12739356>dirt in the wheelsrip
>>12739360Doesn’t this thing have a plasmoquantum vibrator to detect lifeforms or did they do a retard and not bring anything like that
>>12739346The gallery was already linked, no point in posting 50 images.
>>12739395Post 50 images
>>12739302Aesthetically the best WW2 fighter was the P-38, the most aesthetic early cold War fighter was the Draken, the most aesthetic late cold war fighter was the F-15SE, and the most aesthetic stealth era fighter is between the F-22 and the XQ-58A Valkyrie
>>12739372Rover can only detect evidence of past forms of life, not current forms of life
>>12739427>Marvin comes out from behind a rock and moon the rover>image corrupted because it can only detect past life
>>12739427Wow NASA is cringe
>>12739425
>>12739428Martians are a memetic hazard
>>12739430the best part is it cant detect ancient life either. that's why they need sample return. i think they took instruments off the rover to make room for sample storage apparatus. wonder if they'll ever get back to earth
>>12739461It'll happen, bro. You can trust the esa.
>>12739433Ugh it's like butter. Such a beautiful machine
>>12738324Modern tanks have enough frontal armor to deal with most ATGMs, and from a far enough distance modern APFSDS as well. Although with active protection systems becoming more widespread we'll probably see less emphasis on armor.
>>12739433The Valkyrie is pretty cool, anon
>>12739356Why
>>12739486It is. And the surprising thing is a company that you never heard of made it.I hope we can return to that 40s/50s/60s high were companies were sprouting up and making major contributions. That optimism that technology will free the world.
>>12736726So would we have colonized Mars without SpaceX? I’m thinking yes, but it would happen in the 2060s-2080s. We probably would’ve landed in the 2040s but then not come back for a few decades just like the moon
>>12739509The ruling elites would never allow Mars colonization.
>>1273906528 days for the concrete to cure properly
>>12739237the early ones yeah, I don't think the Germans updated theirs as quickly as the yanks.This was one of my fav planes growing up.
>>12739522The Germans also used a high altitude interceptor as a low altitude ground attack plane in mountainous territory.
>>12739509>>12739512On that note, would Mars One have worked? If it wasn’t a scam that is.
>>12739499>And the surprising thing is a company that you never heard of made it.I've got $5k in their stock and LEAPs, they also have space industry exposure
>>12739314>Not KrystalDisappoint
>>12739528>surface level glass houses>all your vegetables are radiation poisonedno
>>12739528Mmmm pay me and maybe I'll tell you one day!
>>12739527kek yesLuftwaffe: Hans, why are we having so many crashes? Weird, no?
>>12739528The only structures on Mars will be Nippopoli.
>>12739274he had a role in elon's current trajectory. I'd be satisfied with that were I in his shoes
>>12739553Zubrin failed though in a way. He spent all his time trying to lobby NASA to change but they never did.
hop when?
>>12739563This week! haha. Buy crypto! haha. Short GME haha. xdxdxdxdxdxd
>>12739556Had Zubrin not done so Elon would have wasted his time trying.
>>12739314nice. I was getting a bit worried. Saw a lot of people raising a stink about the blackout since landing.
>>12739580It was 98% FUDposters but I’m not gonna lie that it was really strange
https://youtu.be/63_sxo_VsGE
>>12739587Oh no oh god of FUCK BOINGBROS WE GOT TOO COCKY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Had to watch hidden figures. Feels like a lot of bullshit. What are the inaccuracies?
>>12739433so good https://youtu.be/080q2qODKnY
>>12739593I thought it was cool that the German scientists were nice to her and not assholes. Also John Glenn based as always.
>>12739580This is the result of the womyn "influencers" that are now in charge of NASA's PR.
>>12739237Suicide is badass, also ony Ger had major operating problem, every other operator's loss rate was just plain average.Talons were cute af as well!
>>12739600I really want the final model to look like this. it's not even crinkly
>>12736726Mars Direct summary. 10 minute video it’s pretty cool.> https://youtu.be/sInxOaEBPJkThe biggest problem I have with it is that it basically requires SLS, which means that it would never fly IRL.
>>12739612not only SLS, but SLS flying 10x more frequently than it actually will
>>12739112>We must know the tactics our enemies will use against us so we may get in front of them.This is a defensive posture, which in the current environment is largely ineffective. Offense is the way to go, either by spearheading narratives or redirecting anti-space ones. Bonus point if you get to call these people racist, for both ironic and practical reasons. And by the way, the best way to move past this woke shit is to weaponize it against the powerful. The moment the ruling class becomes inconvenienced it'll disappear. A quick and dirty example using starlink: reference starlink as a means to help impoverished and minority groups (true). Then paint those against starlink as being against it because they hate minorities and don't want them to access the internet (probably false but it's not like these people care about truth so w/e). Or say that they value their billion-dollar white man telescopes more than bringing these communities up to speed. These people have been bringing guns to a fistfight for a long time now. If they're seriously going to impede the progress of our species they can taste their own medicine.
>>12739618Jej imagine the war between Starlink fans and Astronomyfags and the former shitting on the Kuck Telescope in order to fund Mars missions
>>12739600The movie was mostly fake
>>12739621*Cuck Telescope
>>12739618Starlink critics are racists, spread the word.
>>12739073AFuckingTankon a Tank
>>12739593it's a book adapting material that took a lot of liberties with reality, but the bit where Glenn refuses to get in the EVA before one of the kweens doublechecks the flight calculations is real
>>12739625I know I’m supposed to be excited about those big ground observatories but honestly man I don’t give a shit about them. I want more Space Telescopes.
>>12739433As expensive as the F22 is goddamn if it aint a sexy plane that can actually do its fucking job.
>>12739637That's why we don't export it.
>The plane is fine>It was just the engineOHNONONONO
>>12739540Plants don't give a shit about radiation.
>>12739635Get in the EVA, Glenn
>>12739618"A quick and dirty example using starlink: reference starlink as a means to help impoverished and minority groups (true). Then paint those against starlink as being against it because they hate minorities and don't want them to access the internet (probably false but it's not like these people care about truth so w/e). Or say that they value their billion-dollar white man telescopes more than bringing these communities up to speed."Reminds me of that Norman Borlaugh quote
>>12739635That’s actually really cool of John Glenn. A lot of the astronauts were cool guys in real life. Of course a bunch of them had awful home lives but still.>Al Shepard cheated on his wife a lot>Gordo Cooper cheated on his wife a lot>Pete Conrad cheated on his wife a lot>Buzz Aldrin cheated on his wife a lot
>>12739593A lot is wrong with it but she also should never have been hired
>>12739651They were chads and evolution did not intend chads to be monogamous.
>>12739643Looks like one of the blades decided it didn't want to live in this world anymore and fragged the engine. It would explain the cowling separation and being split up (F for the poor bastard's truck that it landed on), but what the hell caused that hole in the plane skin?
>>12739651Pretty fucking based desu.
>>12739651Man astronaut wives must be some lazy boring bitches.
>>12739646Or Komarov has to do it again!!!
>>12739643holy fuck, lucky bastards
>>12739656and the same day a 747 decided to barf out its turbine blades too. What the fuck?>>12739636this shit is absolutely the future. Hell, in a few decades we'll probably have smallsat telescopes in orbit that you can rent.>>12739651to be fair women do throw themselves at men like that. Would make shit difficult.
>>12739674Idk man it just feels weird I mean these men are propped up as being the pinnacle of American spirit but then they cheat on their wives. It just feels wrong what if your wife cheated on you?
>>12739676Shoot her
>>12739676>these men are propped up as being the pinnacle of American spirit but then they cheat on their wives. It just feels wrong what if your wife cheated on you?Men and women are qualitatively different. A key that opens a lot of locks is a good key. A lock that opens to a wide variety of keys is a bad lock.
>>12739676Women are property. 'Liberty' only made women the property of corporations.
>>12739676I agree, actually. Just stating that these kinds of situations have more to them than man = evil. Also I wonder if it's a personality thing? I mean, a normal person wouldn't throw themselves on top of an experimental skyscraper full of fuel when not long prior 3 guys were burnt to cinders doing the same shit.
>>12739674>and the same day a 747 decided to barf out its turbine blades too. What the fuck?Lack of maintenance due to covid restrictions? I'd have to look up the number of incidents that have occurred since lockdowns have started and see if there's any up or down trend.
>>12739687>look up the number of incidents that have occurred since lockdowns have started and see if there's any up or down trend.that would be an interesting study.
>>12739686Yeah I don’t think it makes them evil men just that they’re certainly flawed. It’s kinda like finding out that your favorite actor is an asshole in real life - it hurts a bit. Anyhow we should all strive to be like John Glenn, who met his wife in high school and stayed with her his entire life until he died.
>>12739635>, but the bit where Glenn refuses to get in the EVA before one of the kweens doublechecks the flight calculations is realYeah which had to do with redundancy. Glenn didn't like women in crucial roles
>>12739700>Glenn didn't like women in crucial rolesWow, >>12739700 is really right!
>>12739687Anyways, AgentJayZ on youtube (Canadian jet engine mechanic, good shit) has posted a video about the 777 incident, I'm watching it now.
>>12739676Men cheat because men are supposed to fuck multiple women. Monogamy is unnatural BS
Compare those men to the NASA staff now. Diversity and inclusion have really destroyed us. I have no problem with minorities and women but this focus on propping them up instead of the best qualified is ridiculous and destroying us.
>>12739716Civilization itself is unnatural, but does that mean you can just murder other males to reduce competition?
>>12739730Yeah
>>12739729It was always intended to do so.
>>12739730As long as nobody stops you.
>>12739643
>>12739730That's how civilization works.
>>12739729>the best qualifiedNo need for this unless China starts another Space race.Although by the time China is ready, the USA might have collagpsed already.
>>12739741>He won’t inhabit Elon’s Outer Haven in south Texas.Heh...looser
>>12739741>USA might have collapsed alreadyThe US is already a failed state.
>>12739716That sort of logic leads to women pressing the nuclear option and moving straight into hypergamy without blinking an eye. Cheating is bad for civilization. It's just that simple.
>>12739741The space race against Chyna already has started, what do you think Artemis is about ? And no, it's not about copying Constellation's homework
>>12739748Yeah dudes bitch about women fucking a million dudes (which is messed up) but then go to extreme lengths to justify cheating on your wife (also messed up).
>>12739748>nooo don't cull incel genes from the population
>>12739741Can China even be taken serious? They'll just assemble something shoddily together, call it a day and if it fails, just cover it up.
>>12739756China intends to conquer the entire universe, and they're definitely more promising than Europe in these terms.
>>12739761Europe is the definition of crabs in a bucket. They’ll open their asshole for China if it means owning the Americans.
>>12739756An actor doesn't need to be perfect to be a serious threat. USSR was a shit hole, too.
>>12739760The Dogecoin people in his Twitter replies are more annoying than the Bitcoin impersonators of old.
>>12739763Europe never got over being sidelined after WW2. They're a sparrow that still thinks it's a Tyrannosaur. Opposition to the US is the only thing keeping them going and not applying for annexation.
How are we gonna build a mobile construction vehicle that can fit onto a starship?Save on building time by using standardized construction processes that can pack/unpack in a short timeMaybe an auto brickstamp and plastic sheetmaker for interior lining, all powered by an RTG?
>>12739790>How are we gonna build a mobile construction vehicle that can fit onto a starship?Astronaut with roverskates.
>>12739754It's not incel genes, you dumbass. That's the problem, and even they have some value due to not being neurotypical. How dudes out there in STEM cannot get laid? A fucking lot. You need those people to reproduce, it's just that simple.
>>12739790Why were the base buildings in RA2 so kino?
>>12739756China needs to import food to sustain their population. An embargo on food worldwide would collapse the country or force China to invade something somewhere.
>>12739801This. You wanna destroy China in two months time without needing to do a ground invasion? Destroy the Three Gorges Dam, and sink any vessel that tries to send them food. They will have no other option than to try and slap together an impromptu invasion force to attack Russia since India would be the harder target given the population parity. Putin wouldn't stand for the CCCP trying to annex his country, and he'd probably start throwing nukes at them.
>>12739813Don't forget the fucking Himalayas separating India and China
>>12739789>They're a sparrow that still thinks it's a Tyrannosaur
>>12739801>force China to invade something somewhereProbably India.
>>12739612This video is ridiculous.You don't go to Mars on a fucking SLS. You need a nuclear ship with a lander attached. It has to be nuclear becuse you need lots of dV to make the shortest return trip possible (alternative: cram supplies for a couple years in the ship and then wait for a cheaper transfer window).So you get to Mars orbit and you park your ship by doing an orbit insertion burn. Then your lander doesn't need to carry a thermal shield at all for the descent because it won't be reentering at solar orbital speeds.
>>12739057no you
>>12739813>since India would be the harder target given the population parityalso because the land border with Russia is flat steppe instead of literally the Himalayas.
Like the solar glare in this one
>>12739356>wheels are clipping into the ground texture
>>12739838>SOL used MAGIC MISSILE
>>12739540Plants tank radiation like it's not there. They basically cant get cancer, and so as long as nutrients and light are abundant the rate of growth easily outstrips the rate of cell death.
>>12739844Those wheels are retarded. It hasn't rolled yet and they are already full of stuff.
>>12739844Lel>>12739366>>12739493Yeah it's probably a result of the sky crane blowing shit all over the place as the rover was going down. The downside is that this debris will work to erode the wheels faster as they grind against the metal. It might be pretty insignificant, but I'm sure JPL wishes that shit wasn't in there
They come in color.>some of the files are individual color bands that can be combined to make a real RGB imagehttps://twitter.com/baserunner0723/status/1363652069241028616
>>12739891Looks like a fun place. I want to kick that small dust mound
>>12739891Why the fuck would you need an AI to guess the color bands? just eyeball it you lazy fucking faggot
>>12739813>schizoid neocon fantasies
>>12739891Mast supposedly went up in place on sol 2. If all goes well we should have some nice panoramic photos on Monday
SN10 FLIGHT TOMORROW I LITERALLY GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH ELON
>>12739921JIM IS BACK
>>12739891FUCK yes. I know people will make fun of Mars and call it ugly, but honestly this is fucking BEAUTIFUL and I could live the rest of my days here. The virgin landscape is ripe for exploration and colonization, and I want to call this place my home in the future
>>12739921Thanks, Jim.
SPACEX IS FINISHED
>>12739931Elon Musk on suicide watch
>>12739356>>12739875>they went with aluminum wheels againI GUESS THEY DIDN'T LEARN THEIR FUCKING LESSON.
>>12739931Damn... all this work for nothing?
>>12739933Didnt they go with thicker wheels this time?
>>12739931>You can support this channel directly through patreon
>>12739931He would get more views if he put Nigger in his titles. Like "Nigger Musk: BUSTED". That's how you win the clickbaut game
>>12739931>200k videosJesas
>>12739933SpaceX is going to need to invest in some serious corrosion protection.
>>12739945It's called stainless steel.
https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/multimedia/videos/
>>12738276>CIWS in space
>>12739945Its not corrosion damage, its what happens when you drive a 900kg rover over sharp rocks. Its why I asked if Perseverance has thicker wheels.
>>12739945Aluminum doesn't corrode unless you fuck it up with galvanic reactions, that's mechanical bashing of tinfoil. And Mars has like no free oxygen.
>>12739959>hey wanna play bumper cars?>"fuck off larry">man you're no fun
>>12739960and according to wikipedia, the answer on percy's wheels would be a yes.
>>12739933>Virgin JPL: Aluminum tinfoil >Chad SpaceX: Titanium gird fins
>>12739528>flat brick roofsThe fuck
>>12739987I think the Virgin label has already been trademarked by Virgin Galactic
>>12739987SpaceX is making their grid fins out of steel now
>>12739959Still can't believe that anon in an earlier thread thought there was a choice between this and stagnating in oldspace or being rich and dying instantly.>Meet someone new>'So what do you do for a living'>'I build spaceships'
>>12739997BN4 must be called Yotsuba.
>>12739959deja vu
>>12739933Like yeah this is shitty but also these rovers aren't designed to last for 50-100 years. Their missions are typically only 1-2 years in theory, and anything after that is considered a bonus.
>>12739959People literally get paid for this, and get to tell people they help build Mars rockets. Fuck my life bros I will never amount to anything cool
>>12739940>Nigger Musk: BUSTEDThat's my new aftershave line. Also comes in "Out of Africa" and "Congo Cobalt"
>>12740021>>12739940holy kek
It's your friendly neighbourhood Mars terraforming back-of-the-cumrag-calculation anon here. This time with a bit of thermodynamics for you. Last time I determined that the Martian poles contain more than enough water to supply a 0.2 bar pure oxygen atmosphere. This time I decided to figure out just how much energy it would "ideally" take to dumbly electrolyse all that water to liberate 0.2 bars worth of oxygen. Looks like you're going to need a lot of Kilopowers.
>>12740040the nice thing about terraforming is that it would never work without high yield fusion, so at least it adds a forcing function to achieve it. same goes for fusion drives, really no need, until you wanna bring that mars transfer time down
>>12739891HOME!MARS IS CALING!!
>>12740040100% of water mined is going to be drank, period.
>>12740040Or about 50000 Tsar Bomba's.
>>12739891All I can hear:>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28sd6z_rb2E
>>12740066>50,000 Tsar Bombas
>>12740062Unless Musks ISUR rocket fuel plans pan out, then more like 99.99% will be drank.
>>12739643time to sell all my boeing stock
>>12739959>https://youtu.be/-iQLNR9btr4?t=3
>>12740040You all are not keeping in mind that the planet itself is fighting against you. The ice on mars exists in that state because of the climate and will revert to that state fairly quickly.
>>12740074*ISRU
>>12739921When did it have static fire?
>>12740081I did mention this is a back of envelope scoping calculation and do not propose that this is all you need to do to make Mars habitable. It's just that actually making an atmosphere is probably the most energetically costly part of Martian terraforming and as such provides a nice upper bound on the capabilities required to complete such a monumental task.
>>12740100Yeah, I just think the climate will always outrun any human efforts unless a substantial amount of new water is added to mars, which will really only be economically viable when the population on mars outruns the accessible water supply.
>>12738276look at the us air force orion battle ship if you want to see the type of warship we could create with 1960s technologyhttp://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/realdesigns2.php#orionbattleship> When the Orion nuclear pulse propulsion concept was being developed, the researchers at General Atomic were interested in an interplanetary research vessel. But the US Air Force was not. They thought the 4,000 ton version of the Orion would be rightsized for an interplanetary warship, armed to the teeth. And when they said armed, they meant ARMED. It had enough nuclear bombs to devastate an entire continent (500 twenty-megaton city-killer warheads), 5-inch Naval cannon turrets, six hypersonic landing boats, and several hundred of the dreaded Casaba Howitzer weapons — which are basically ray guns that shoot nuclear flame (the technical term is "nuclear shaped charge").
>>12738281>>12738287thats really cool, it'd be nice to get a high graphics CoADE
>>12738408yes, read this pagehttp://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/realdesigns2.php#id--Project_Orion_Battleship we were very close to getting a full on orion space program that could of colonized the solar system within decades and sent fast interstellar probes, as well as having a fleet of nuclear battleships capable of razing continents
>>12740116While I cannot really comment on climate engineering (Though how hard could this be? Just add a bunch of atmospheric CFCs so you can get a nice greenhouse effect going), Mars has sufficient water reserves in its poles alone to maintain a significant human presence. Presuming you have made a 0.2 bar oxygen atmosphere using polar water you will still have ~75% of the mass of the polar water remaining which would be about 2.412E18 kg. An average human requires 3.5 L per day, which doesn't disappear after they've consumed it and can be recycled post consumption. This means that presuming perfect recycling you can meet the water requirements of ~6.89E17 Martian humans. So local Martian water sources are more than sufficient to maintain an appreciable human population. Warming the planet is the main problem after generating a sufficiently dense atmosphere - but I haven't done any calculations for that.
>>12740129That's fucking awesome
>>12740148>(Though how hard could this be? Just add a bunch of atmospheric CFCs so you can get a nice greenhouse effect going)Or just dump a shitload of acid on the dirt to react with the perchlorates.
>>12740148>can be recycled post consumptionAt great cost>presuming perfect recyclingNever do this.
I had a dream where I was in a gunfight with a family of inbreds. What possible implications does this have for Mars colonization?
>>12738312Weirdly they don't, The context is that said lesbian is his crewmate on a mission that went tits up and because she thought she was going to die she told him that was secretly gay because she didn't want to die in the closet, and he tells her to get over herself and focus on the task at hand/ not tell anyone because it would cause controversy and her feeling good about herself is less important than the work they are doing.
>>12740164Stay off Tharsus, the hills have eyes.
>>12740148>While I cannot really comment on climate engineering (Though how hard could this be?Literally impossible: https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/goddard/2018/mars-terraforming
>>12739528imagine living on a mars colony with less habitable volume then the ISS lmao
>>12738450Capture/de orbit Chinese spy satellitesShoot down chinese ICBMs from spaceOffer support to the navy from the highest ground there is.
>>12740173This is a moronic take because it presumes that CO2 is the only greenhouse gas. There are a multitude of other known compounds like CFCs and HFCs with far greater heating potential than CO2. This paper states that CHF3 has a warming potential 11,700 times greater than CO2 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022113912001315.. And I'm sure nothing really stops us from engineering even more potent greenhouse gases that might only need to be present at the 1000s to 10,000s ppm levels in a hypothetical 0.2 bar Oxygen Mars atmosphere.
>>12740171Oh boy can't wait for creepy wastelands on Mars with bandits
>>12740192>Also, while other gases such as the introduction of chloroflorocarbons or other fluorine-based compounds have been proposed to raise the atmospheric temperature, these gases are short-lived and would require large-scale manufacturing processes, so they were not considered in the current study.Good job ignoring any information that discredits your religion. Very impressive.
>>12739931what does he say in this one
>>12739931SpaceX: BUSTED in thunderfoot's MOM!!
>>12740220I'm starting to think Elon fucked Thunderfart's mum
>>12740222
>>12740220Should I watch the video
>>12740129>5-inch Naval cannon turretsy tho
>>12740222Worst timeline.
>>12740229https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWYo7nfwEXwfull presentation
>>12740236To shoot
>>12740222Checked and FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK THIS TIIIIIIIIIMELIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE
>>12740240Just seems in order to effectively utilise them requires you to get so close to your target that you're basically committing suicide if they have any weapons of their own
>>12740261Pretty much. Space needs missiles and lasers.
>>12740237>>12740254Different fags, same energy lol
Damn, this game has aged like fine wine.
>>12740271Wait is the game modded KSP, or Nexus? The former would be cool. The latter might not even be a game, idk
>>12740274Nexus. I think it's just a render.
>>12739946nonstop pop-pop
>>12740284That song is why Elon named his latest son after DMX.
>>12739921Did you ask him why he keeps spamming Krystal here?
>>12740173This doesn’t take into account the possibility of bringing in liquid nitrogen to bulk up the atmosphere and get it to sufficient pressure to have liquid water and simple ecosystems >But where will it come from?Titan’s atmosphere is mostly nitrogen which would only need a pressure swing absorber and NTR powered transports to suck it up and dump it in Mars’s atmosphere Hell, you could try to scoop some from Venus’s atmosphere in high speed flybys but that’s more complicated
>>12740320Because he has shit taste in space waifus
>>12740277Oh yeah I just looked it up. Nexus looks cool. I haven't even heard of it before. Kind of random but I've also wanted to get into Star Trek Online recently. I wish there was a video game akin to star citizen but it used current to near-future tech like Orion ships
>>12740332
>>12740277>>12740274>>12740271The best space game will always be EVE online
>>12740335Fay will always be infinitely better than Krystal and you know it
>>12740339I can't count how many little bees I've swatted. It has to be more than a thousand.
>>12740326How will this be useful to colonists in the interim? Any colossal scale infrastructure (such as that which would be necessary to bring all this matter to mars) which is not naturally integrated into martian industry or consumption would be correctly judged as totally frivolous to colonists and the urf governments that will ultimately bear the costs and would never get off the ground.
>>12740333Unfortunately, nexus turns into yet another star trek about a 3rd of the way through, and then into Mass Effect by the end. Very disappointing, desu.
>>12740350Fay? More like Fayl.
>>12739831A thermal shield is far lighter than the propellant needed to slow down propulsively unless you have pure-fusion rocket engines with Isp above 500,000 seconds.
>>12740290He posted a video of the little creature on his Twitter recently
>>12739656>but what the hell caused that hole in the plane skin?The blade shot through the plane body. Same thing happened on that one A380 from Quantas years ago. Uncontained engine failure which damaged the bottom of the main fusselage with shrapnel.
>>12740066in a row??
>>12740355The thicker mars’ atmosphere is, the less cosmic radiation they receive, the warmer the planet is so less energy spent in heating and the more nitrogen is available to make nitrates for farmingAnd once water is liquid, the easier it is to transport to vital projects via open canalTerraforming pays off in the mid-to-long term
>>12740377Terraforming pays of never as far as a human being is concerned as it takes MILLIONS of years to accomplish. Tarrafaggots are autistic faggots the never once consider human needs or opportunity costs. Fucking virgin.
>>12739959Bro’s I’ve given serious thought to applying for a temporary job down there as a cook. Before you all shit on me I met the experience requirements at least. I also have a degree in biomed sciences. The only thing is that I’m in grad school but honestly man I’d rather cook in boca chica than learn about disabled people.
>>12740382Why do you always blow up your claims? You were wrong about the asteroid belt thing and you're wrong about this as well.
>>12736726Words really can’t describe how much I want to go to space. Elon pls hurry up with Starship. I don’t care if it’s a suborbital hop just pls let me up there
>>12740386There's something wrong with the asteroid belt? Wtf?
>>12740382Go put on your faggy suit, suit fag.
>>12740377>less energy spent in heatingActually since Mars is basically a vacuum any surface missions there will be more concerned with finding better ways of throwing away waste heat than generating heat to keep the habitats warm. The pressure at ground level across most of Mars is akin to the pressure of gas in the space between the walls of a thermos that keeps coffee hot for hours. Start adding gas to Mars and you'll actually increase the heating requirements for habitats across the board, even though the atmosphere will technically be warming up, it's ability to sap heat out of objects warmer than the air will increase faster. This is actually a big issue for Titan probes because they need to be well insulated to keep their batteries warm, and will likely need supplementary heating from small radiothermal sources. Trying to keep a habitat warm on Titan will be a nightmare.
>>12740222>>12740229We can only pray that Starship enables the space force to send up pieces of Orion as classified cargo to be assembled in orbit without anyone knowing about it.
>>12740354I actually hate the fagswarm but their propaganda is great.
My Terraforming plan:>Drill big anchors into Phobos>Attach 9000km long cables to anchors>Lift up cables so they stretch away from the surface and drag into Mars' atmosphere>They generate heat and drag, slowing down the moon and causing it to spiral inward>Meanwhile the cables are heating up the atmosphere>Eventually Phobos crashes into the surface, heating itI have done zero(0) math on this
>>12740403100% will work, excellent plan! Isaac Arthur wins again!
>>12740403
>>12740407Pleath dwo not bwully me
>>12740403>He doesn't know about the Roche LimitPhobos, unironically, is not going to make it
>>12740425Just make it fall too fast to become a ring lol
>/sfg/ saves Phobos
>>12740425That's the point.
There should be a train line between Phobos and Deimos
Terraformers be like>guys we could just move Ceres into LMO lol xd
>>12740446Anti-terraformers be like>I am a huge faggot please rape my face
>>12740446>Mars is too cold?>Just disassemble Neptune and build up Mars into another Earth lol
>>12740446>interstellar distances are an issue?>just construct dyson swarms around every star in the observable universe and propel them closer together using photon pressure and gravity tractors
>>12740446>accessing orbit from Earth's surface is difficult?>just disassemble the planet into a swarm of rotating habitats with tiny escape velocities
>>12740472Yes
>>12740446>Earth's atmosphere not conducive to space travel?>Just remove earth's atmosphere
>>12740484I want to meet the race of aliens who actually do shit like this.
>>12740446>human life span is too short?>just mash most of the matter in the universe into an ultra massive black hole and use the excess to build a hollow shell held up by orbital ring active support which never needs maintenance and hibernates for 10^60 years waiting for the cosmic microwave background to cool down enough that it can use reversible computing at 0.000000000001 kelvin powered by the hawking radiation exiting the black hole to simulate 10^800 human brains for 10^110 years
>>12740479The joke is that you need to solve the launch mass problem in order to take a planet apart, since doing the latter is basically just doing the former but on a scale a trillion times larger.
>>12740486I like to think there's a race out there who's home planet is a super earth that serves as a HUGE gravity well. Their "gagarin" equivalent was probably an orion fission rocket just to get to LEO. They would probably look at us and scorn. "you guys have it so easy yet you waste it on politics. Fags. We will glass your planet out of mercy"
>>12740165Honestly the show seems secretly based. It talks about the woman program S a novelty that isn't prepared for the real thing and then they show them working as hard as they can to be okay. They basically shit on the whole diversity and gender quotas of the new age
>>12740497They came through here billions of years ago looking for minerals to haul. That's why the solar system is missing a "super earth", common in most other solar systems.
>>12740512Holy shit what if the "planet 9" gravity discrepancy is really just another planet that was strip mined and hauled off lol
>>12740512
>>12740515There could be an actual Death Star hanging out out there and we'd have no idea because it's so far away. Fuck physics.
>>12740515>Earth politics in 500 years is just a bunch of Sol fools arguing with Proxima Centauri’s about how they owe us reparationsKek
>>12740530lmao
>>12740530How would interstellar relations even exist if a message takes 4 years to send?>”Hey Proxima we don’t like what you’re doing please stop”>8 years later>”No”
>>12740544Fucking hahahah this would actually be hilarious
>>12740544Proxima is so close you could probably slip and slide between Sol and Proxima's hill spheres by moving an astronomical unit or so
How will SpaceX avoid Snix from pulling vid related?https://youtu.be/hR6DATfX7kI
>>12740560>hill spheres???
>>12740569A hill sphere is the region of space in which an object's gravity dominates. Earth's hill sphere is a little one embedded within the much larger hill sphere of the Sun, and the Moon's hill sphere is an even smaller one embedded within the hill sphere of the Earth. The sun's hill sphere is embedded within the hill sphere of the Milky Way, and Proxima's hill sphere is the closest other one belonging to a star. There's a point out in space between Sol and Proxima where you could move a """Short""" distance and change hill sphere between Proxima and Sol, kind of like jumping between the borders of two countries.
>>12740561Lighting all three raptors for landing and then selecting down to two
Have you ever seen something as beautiful as a supernova?
>>12740591I've seen attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
>>12740591Imagine seeing that shit from a nearby position
>>12740594I hope Betelgeuse nuts in our lifetime so we could see just that.
>>12740561They changed their raptors so they can throttle down more and they'll light 3 this time. the thing is that SN8 and SN9 weren't focused on landing, SN10 isn't either but they will focus on it more than they did on SN8 & SN9
>>12740577How would that effect communication though, which moves at light speed anyways
>>12740592YEEES, fucking based quote anon>>12740595I hope and pray. It would be talked about for ages
>>12740592Watched C-beams glitter in the dark near Tannhäuser Gate.
>>12740598It wouldn't, I just thought it was a funny idea to be able to change solar system with a puff of RCS lmao
>>12740603Oh lol yeah you have a good point. Somewhere out in space there's got to be a point where a small little PFFFFFT of cold gas thrusters would make you change from the Sun's sphere of influence to Proxima's
>>12740613>PFFFFFTIn my head this was the KSP RCS sound effect
>>12740613Interstellar BRAP.
>>12740508>basedWatching the first episode now, very first shot is a room full of blabbering mexicans that have nothing to do with the plot. I thought it was a one time thing to establish the global importance of the moon landing, but the keep forcing me to skip past scenes of mexicans doing literally nothing.
>>12740656They're trying to set up a "this spic girl is going to be an astronaut" thing. The show is definitely SJW but I think it is secretly based
>>12740672Don't trick yourself. The things you think are 'secretly based' might just be there for the womyn at home to wow-just-wow at.
>>12739790It's called an astronaut with a shovel, faggot.
>>12740383Do it. Fuck tard wrangling.
>>12740679>to wow-just-wow at.ugh I hate this shit
I know the chances of macrofauna evolving on Mars is probably low, but I hope to god we find a trilobite or some shit. I pray it will be that easy and we wont have to wait for sample return
>>12740779I'm not sure I'd survive discovering alien life
>>12740779does nasa have a fast-track contingency plan if they did confirm life or past life? like instead of waiting till the 2030s it would be within the next 2-4 years.
>>12740815They'll probably hide it
>>12740815pay good attention to the samples they decide to keep. the tubes are finite, and scientists will be clawing at eachothers throats to choose what to keep and what to ditch.
>>12736726anyone got the pic this was shopped from
>>12740871
holy shit did thundercuck actually claimed the Dragon was a copy if the Apollo CSM?
>>12740875>There are anons posting here who will never be a dadsad
>>12740882yes and still doesn't know the difference between cost and price...
>>12740890he know the difference between clicks and no clicks
>>12740892Wow. Thunderfoot has uploaded over 700,000 videos to his YouTube Channel
i kinda wanna fuck that jpl girl in the ass
>>12740924post her
>>12736753Orion/projectrho needs to be added to that list
>>12740933>>12740924Shes married
>>12740954how do you know
>>12740952ProjectRho is super cool
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>>12736757>POV: You are the Boeing PR team after SLS fucks up again while Spacex and SFG watch
>>12736760Sitting in bed. Sipping coffee. When suddenly a deafening,BOING.
>>12737258... it's multiple re-entrying!
>>12739904> It's simple you just destroy the three gorgeous dam killing tens of millions in one hit, that will surely get rid of my national insecuritiesBurgers pls
>>12741247
>>12739763They are doing it because they are fed up with propping up the US economy.There is no USSR threat anymore that justifies cucking to the US and accepting their oil extortion racket.
>>12737258IT'S SHIT