/sci/ - Science & Math

Fuck you

People who accept things they cant prove and have no bearing on their life make ME MAD

earth is flat
space is fake
the mars mission is fake

>>12730335
Those people should be beneath your notice. Says something about you that you are even aware of their existence.

>>12730352
Post your address.

>>12730358
They self-satisfied smugness annoys me. I hate people who are wrong, but think they are right, while being completely wrong and smug.

>>12730335
I rather enjoy it, why not perform the comparative statics reneging the most fundamental underlying assumptions? Really challenge what our observations are actually telling us, and to be content in the disprovement of the null hypothesis? It is but wonderous entertainment for the educated mind.

For example, what if the flat earthers and globe eathers are both correct from their reference frame? What if we were on a flat plane, but there was sufficient energy density in our vicinity that this flat plane is gravitically warped into the shape that satellites orbit? Under such a model both the flat earthers and round earthers are content, but laughably, not occams razor.

>>12730335
they don't piss me off.
they're so incredibily idiotic and no one takes them seriously anyway
growth mongers are the new climate deniers
now they piss me off

>>12730532
>growth mongers
Who?

>>12730352
You are making OP really angry

>>12730518
> flat plane is warped in such a way that it obeys all physical properties of a sphere
Dear anon, I don't know whether you're a retard or a genius. Unfortunately for you, there is the razor.

>>12730541
finance, business, economics types..
politicians
day traders.
you know, scum of the earth

>>12730335
>earth is flat
its round

>>12730573
Oh you mean jews >>>/pol/

>>12730592
>you mean jews
no. but since you told me to go to /pol/ for that, i guess i mean you, and i guess you just happen to be a jew...

>>12730335
>RENT FREE, BABY, RENT FREE!
Why bother getting upset? You could literally take these people to LEO, put them in a space suit and shove them out the airlock to float around on the end of their tether, and they would STILL deny any of it was real, and they'd come up with all sorts of elaborate theories about 'special effects' and 'sound stages' and maybe even 'hallunciongenics in their air'. You could put them down on the surface of the Moon and they'd say the same things. FFS you could be in interplanetary space, nothing around you for 1,000,000 miles, THEN shove them out the airlock in a vacsuit, and they'd STILL claim it was some sort of trick.
YOU CANNOT 'FIX' STUPID.

>>12730628
Lol, good post

>>12730572
>Unfortunately
you'd fine me quite blessed by goddess Fortuna in this regard, for if there wasn't the razor, or it was found counterfeit, now that would be a solumn day in the Fortunate

>>12730352
YUOR MAKIN ME ANGERY!!1!11!

>>12730335
>People saying .... making me really angry.
Why?

>>12730628
What will be their excuse when Virgin Galactic take every day consumers into lower orbit and teenagers are streaming videos of the curvature of the Earth on their Instagram stories?

>>12730335
Yeah? Too bad NASA is actually fake.

>>12730742
Same as with airline pilots? That everyone on the ship is there as part of the conspiracy

>>12730761
Pretty sure NASA exists, anon.

>>12730398
>1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW, Washington, DC
Come and get me, faggot!

>>12730552
kek

Globetards btfo. What now, NASAcucks?

https://youtu.be/6nNUEU8gnf4

>>12730780
>when one of the many Shaders that make up your Earth model has a math error and stops rendering (goes transparent) and you can see what's behind the Earth
I code Shaders btw. This is obviously CGI.

It is affecting your anxiety

Welcome to the psyop anon. That's how its designed, so you will immediately get angry and discount anything labeled a "conspiracy" in the future.
This is shown by the reaction to the corona vaccine. People become immediately angry and verbally attack anyone who so much as questions the vaccine.

>>12730335
Space isn't fake but it's a waste of time. Humanity will never leave Earth.

>>12730348
And you just accept earth is flat? Prove it

>>12730335
You are going to have to learn to live with uninformed people thinking they know everything. Those of us in STEM have enough konweldge to know just how big and complicated the world is, and by comparison, how little we know. Those who are uneducated, think the world is simple, and cna easily be explained using just common sense. There fore anything beyond that must be a lie form thre perspective.
This is commonly known as the Dunning Kruger effect. Most of the world is at the first peak.

those theories are there so you wear the mask and obey them in all things, nobody actually believes in flat earth

>>12730828
What is exactly wrong in the .webm?

>>12730335
Why? How many humans actually need to know those facts in their day to day life.

>>12732768
Someone not in STEM doesent need to no the detailed workings of the world, but if people had just a decent understanding of there suroindings, a lot of problems could be avoided. For instance, a better understanding of basic biology and just the fundamentals of physics, would preven people from believeing dumb shit like covid conspiracy theoryes like that 5g causes covid, and that could have measurable positive effect on society.

>>12732760
If you watch the video you will see that it lacks an apparent "Earth" layer under an "atmosphere" layer, like it is faked and it was not detected by some supervisor before being broadcasted.

>>12730781
>1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW, Washington, DC
Nice house faggot.
Now post your face so I know who you are, fucking richfag cunt.

>>12732730
I bet you aren’t even smart enough and don’t really know the study. Because it isn’t really stellar methodologically speaking. But it essentially boils down to people, who believe they know something about a topic actually do. And yes the effect is a little stronger at the expert level, but it’s generally true.

>>12730518
>Nasa is a multi-billion dollar tax siphen created by the government

too truth. What have they fucking done since the moon landings? Nothing. How many billions of tax dollars have they wasted in that time frame? If you land on the moon, the next step is moon base and terra-forming the moon.

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>>12733277
>Washington, DC
>DC

Isn't that in Maryland. I'm looking at a map and I its in Maryland

>>12730335
>no one has ever touched space, only things they claim were in it
>no one has ever seen space, only things they claim are in it
>no one has ever tasted, smelled or heard space

they're plants to delegitimise actual conspiracy theories like 9/11

>>12733339
Well I may be an idiot, cause i have no ide what point you were trying to make with this word salad.

>>12733382
>What have they fucking done since the moon landings? Nothing
Space stations, space shuttles, big-ass probes to every planet in the system

>>12733470
Did you know most influential scientists were occultists?

I WANT ALL DENIALISTS KILLED

>>12733172
How do we know it wasn't faked by someone fucking with conspiracy retards?

>>12735798
BECUSE WE AINT FUCKING RETARDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>12734664
Einstein believed in ouija boards and spirits.

>>12730518
Why are flat earthers so worried about their 23 billion going towards NASA and not the 600 billion specifically reserved for blowing up sandniggers?

>>12730335
It's very sad, but scientists should have been more trustworthy and had more integrity before they touted such an authoritarian view of truth and knowledge that normal, reasonable people all stopped trusting them.

>>12730335
What you accept as a truth is a mind conception, wouldn't be different if this conception shifted to something else.

>>12732730
Nearly everybody with your attitude is on Mount Stupid, and stuck there forever.

Some believe germ theory is true, so some might believe earth is flat too...

>>12730335
Zero G plane or space station, who could tell the difference
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DmYuhIUT_hc

>>12730335
The moon landings are faked.
A good way to make money, tricking the gullible into thinking we will conquer space.

>>12733395
Technically no, D.C is it's own federal occupancy space. If you look into the history of it, half of D.C was part of what is now Arlington and Alexandria. Virginia reclaimed its half of the federal space, Maryland didn't. Ergo D.C is strictly federal land and does not operate under Maryland state law, their residents cannot vote in MD elections.

>>12730335
>Giving these people attention
Why? Just post cool space pictures, turn the tables on them

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>>12730335
the earth is flat shit seems so idiotic to your midwit brain right? it makes people like yourself angry doesn't it
thats precisely why i am a flat earther. niggers such as yourself , normies ,midwits who think knowing about space makes them smart is very funny to people such as myself. rocket technology is nothing new.ask yourself why do you need to know all this fake gibirish about space & time , if we were to colonize another planet which we won't do you think people like you will be living there ?
why do you defend this elaborate joke of bullshit.
you keep worshiping your nu-science god and will keep doing my math because i like math not because some retarded man with crazy hair told me fairy tails about space.

>>12737532
Cool story bro

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>>12737532
Yes. In the end what is there beyond couple of pictures, a couple of people telling stories and loud spectacular rocket starts. It’s not like they couldn’t fly high altitude balloons around or other manned and unmanned vehicles around at 100.000-150.000 ft and gather data. And in fact there are declassified documents proving this was done.

>>12737560
No civil engineer or pilot uses spherical trigonometry. It’s always planar trigonometry.

>>12737560
So smart! Wow!

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>>12737567
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wg0pRD73IYM

>>12737576
Cool video bro!

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>>12737570
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=61ravPq4GG0

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>>12737585
Wow! So smart!

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>>12737573
What a nice and shiny tinfoil collection you have there. You are probably wearing it all day on your head too.
Very impressive pictures. Proves it all.
Here have a magic floating ballon tank.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QJpuTujnWag

>>12737598
Cool story bro!

>>12737590
I could get people doing better CGI for a couple bucks. What a sloppy job.

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>>12737603
You're so smart wow!

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>>12737607
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h-JeNHQgssI

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>>12737617
Didn't watch LOL

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>>12737605
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uwF9ir9Ucvk&list=PLyHwsN1Rg4IqaayvqHqKmTh3zOYDMh8Xh&index=7
That’s where all the helium is going.

>>12737633
Cool story bro!

>>12737631
>when you repurpose the Star Wars millennium falcon set

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>>12737642
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8GZRjkPAnk8&list=PLyHwsN1Rg4IqaayvqHqKmTh3zOYDMh8Xh&index=8

>>12737576
I immediately started reminding as many flatfags as my patience allowed of how pozzed their (((conspiracy))) is. I mean, don't they realize youtube would be actively nuking their videos if the earth really was flat.

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>>12737644
Wow! So smart!

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>>12737645
You are wrong they massively manipulated the search mechanisms. It’s essentially completely shadow banned for the most part and while you are right other stuff disappears faster. I have seen videos that were deleted and quiet a lot of them.

It's very telling that so many Flat Earthers are from the US and Brazil.

>>12737664
My guess is that them still talking shit about the elite gets their content shadowbanned anyway. I literally used euphemisms in my comments and I still got the "return error" bullcrap when editing to make sure they were still there.

>>12730348
This. Stop proselytizing and crusading, and unclamp OP.

>>12730335
I agree that flat earthers are annoying, but how do they affect you? Why would they make you mad? Just laugh at them like everyone else does.

>>12737676
I think you can’t really trust simple people in the mind of the elite. And the control structure is also based on scientific believes. Science should be free, but in reality it isn’t. My perspective is more mathematical and biochemical, but obviously I can verify other things, if I spend enough time. And I’m not sold completely either way, but it’s very telling, how I give them something to “debunk” or ask them for a prove and there is just nothing. I already drilled down in some rabbit holes and really checked the papers and references. There is a lot of stuff out there, that doesn’t add up or can’t be demonstrated.
Them emphasizing science should be trusted and blindly followed makes me even more suspicious, because I know people pumping out a lot of research and many aren’t even smart enough to construct a system that rigorously tests hypothesis. Most research papers are false and it’s not just medical and psychological research.
If they can’t deliver proof I am going to assume it’s either false or irrelevant.

>>12737693
>AAAHHHHHH I was clamped vaccinated and part of my penis was amputated, but but but, look how far we've come! A-A-And these.... these, THESE, THESE FLAT EARTHERS ARE GOING TO TAKE US BACK. THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE IT AWAY.

Even though their full sexual experience was already taken away, their IQ was taken away, their health was taken away, their "freedom" was taken away. Yet somehow the flat earther is the threat, and he certainly will be what takes us all to the dark ages and a greater hell.

You're dealing with RELIGION.

>>12737693
Or he is mad he can’t disprove the arguments.

>>12737727
This is it. He can't back up his religion without his priest or holy book to refer to.

>>12732505
>Space isn't fake but it's a waste of time. Humanity will never leave Earth.
Disagree, at some point we will have to leave or else the human race will be destroyed, whether it be from our own doing, a meteor or whatever else, the only way for the human race to survive is to progress into the stars and start new colonies in space

>>12730335
They are schizos who want only their little world to matter, they want the other realities to not exist because they want to feel big and that stuff makes them feel small.

>>12733382
>What have they fucking done since the moon landings?
Mostly shit like getting samples from mars, launching probes and all that. But honestly their budget isnt what it once was. They don't have the budget to say eh fuck it and accelerate the mar missions and shit.

>>12735815
>BECUSE WE AINT FUCKING RETARDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yes you are ahahaha

>>12732675
Earth is round or flat globally. Locally it is mostly flat, but with a lot of bumps.

>>12737911
>everybody with a different perspective is mentally ill
>here looked I derived ad hoc arguments from personal interpretations of Freudian psychology
Not impressive.
>>12737929
Maybe that’s not what they are interested in. If they were really that competent, why did they lose all the records of the lunar missions or like they now claim over wrote them with something else. But that’s just a thought.
>>12737948
If you want to use the big words. The narrative is that it’s spherical with surface roughness.

>>12738089
We literally have probes in space that see the earth is round. Do you need a rocket ride to space to see you’re wrong or you just say it’s a motion simulator ride or that NASA drugged you?

>>12738152
I’m willing to see the papers and review them. Blurred images don’t cut it for me. I want uncut material. No anecdotal recollections, but testimonies under oath. No “sanitized” data, but raw data.
If you can provide it. Please do it. Many scientifically skilled people will be quiet interested in reviewing it. I certainly will look at it. The thing is everything is classified and everybody only has small pieces. Unless the data is public it’s all speculation.

>>12737911
>I like and accept feeling small.
>I am enlightened because I can see and accept the natural order.
>Some things are big, but me? I'm small, and I'm okay with that.
Even if your narrative was accurate and complete, you would still be a clamp cuck.

Hey Garrett, when did you start believing in flat earth?

>>12738222
I’m not doing shit for your homo ass. The data is all there you just call it fake.

>>12739266
>data is all there
That’s not what they tell you. Allegedly they got rid of almost all of the telemetry, system, communication and engine data, if the lunar missions are concerned.
If you search for it most just isn’t there.

>>12730828
Copying and pasting code from stack exchange isn't real coding, Panjeet.

>>12739381
Wrong, you're just shit at searching for things.
https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/A11_MissionReport.pdf

when was the last time you experienced the tautology (AvB)->(AvB)?
when was the last time you experienced the number \pi^{e}?

when was the last time you experienced a black hole?
when was the last time you experienced an W boson?
when was the last time you experienced np+e^−+\overbar{v}_e ?
when was the last time you experienced the gene C14orf4?
when was the last time you experienced a dinosaur?
when was the last time you experienced the planet mars?
when was the last time you experienced a non-flat earth?

SCIENCE IS A SCAM

>>12737565
>engineers use simplified models when in situations that don't require high accuracy
>wow color me surprised
>me: engineer

>>12730335
Moon is fake as well. In fact the entire sky is just a bunch of screens

>>12740827
>I fear what I don't understand, therefore all the science that is the foundation for the modern society I live in is fake

>>12740827
>when was the last time you experienced the tautology (AvB)->(AvB)?
Always

>>12740826
Not really raw data, it’s small excerpts. But thanks. I can already tell they very likely screwed up on table 9.9.1. this goes to a specialized friend of mine.

>>12742741
Table 11.1. also looks rather suspicious.

>>12730335
>making me really angry.
Why? Juts ignore the retards.

>>12730335
>science deniers denying the science that is the foundation of modern society (chemical agriculture, water treatment, satellite GPS, geotechnical/civil engineering, electrical engineering, special relativity in GPS)
just ignore the retards OP and look at more cool space pics like the Huygens probe on fucking TITAN

>>12742779
>chemical agriculture
That’s mostly nonsense it’s basically crop rotation and Haber-Bosch. Probably crop rotation was already known to some before. The rest is mostly poisoning everything. The nutritional values are currently dropping, especially in the GMO food.
>water treatment
That’s equally not rocket science. I know the pun is intended. It’s basic stuff and we should use less medication based on synthetic chemistry. Because currently water treatment is also breaking down.
>satellite GPS
>doesn’t know about LORAN etc.
>geotechnical/civil engineering
Our architecture is garbage. We can’t even build the beautiful buildings our ancestors build. Infrastructure is ugly and crumbling. The man made islands are smelling horrible.
>electrical engineering,
>Them sending propaganda and dumb stuff in every home is great
>special relativity in GPS
Except even according to current theology it’s irrelevant. Just a small constant any halfway competent engineer could adjust for.

>>12742843
Science has is under the pail of an abortive ideological cancer because of academics multiple generations deep that are historically and philosophically illiterate and swap Foucalt based ideologies like STDs, however just because this is the case does not make a global conspiracy that all technologies discovered and used in the last century are bunk. You've gone way too far into retard land just because of a separate problem about modern academia. By embracing retarding skepticism in the literal sense of the word retarding you undermine yourself and your community to backslide into barbarism in fact playing into the hands of the same people putting their finger on the scales of academia.

>>12742961
>all technologies discovered
I was talking more specifically, but I think you did get it.
>conspiracy
Thinking people aren’t coming together to act to the detriment of others is so naive.
You don’t need anything global, if mostly just a couple of people given certain incentives are needed. And they don’t really need to know.
It’s not just about philosophy, it’s about science itself being manipulated and used.
There is no doubt it has become a religious thing. In denying its own premises. At this point it is completely controlled too.
To you the critic is heresy. You are confronted with the truth about you religion. And the cognitive dissonance resulting can’t be denied.
Using a methodology successfully in some cases is something very different.
Which I don’t deny.

>>12743093
From this shitty word salad it is apparent you are just as illiterate as the scientists you criticize and still insist on your own goofy religious narrative of being the one woke Neo in the matrix or some shit. Regardless of science being used to promote nonsense philosophy and tranny pp physics/astronomy/chemistry have done amazing work in the last century and if you want to bald faced deny the work you have to construct your alternative models of why everything works a different way, instead of just crying foul. As far as every post in this thread you haven't really presented your alternative models for things that aren't fundamentally wrong and don't need to be denied in the first place.

>>12742741
>>12742753
LARP

>>12743320
10 seconds after ignition
Predicted
> 184 70 70 170.6 170.4 122.6 1.604 3464 309.4
Measured
>184.5 70.4 71.0 170.0 169.3 122
NA NA NA
4oo seconds after ignition
Predicted
>184 70 70 169.6 169.5 122.5 1.595 3439 308.8
Measured
>184 70.4 71.0 169.5 168.8 122 NA NA NA
Look at the amount numbers .4 .5 .6 .0
Also the changes from predicted to measured it’s there too.
There is also other stuff going on.

>>12737532
>Calls someone a midwit
>Is incapable of constructing a single grammatically sound and legible paragraph

Take your meds

>>12737693
Flat earthers are extreme reps of morons, given that morons have agency in our society its in my best interest to stamp out morons wherever possible. Anti intellectualism is a plague, see America lmao.

>>12743456
>caring about correct language
>not a midwit
Pick one.
>>12743471
>lamo
You most be really bright.

>>12743377
Literally nothing wrong with those numbers

>>12742761
Holy shit, someone with some sense here. Just ignore them OP. It’s not like they’re going to stop our missions to space and humanities progress anytime soon. They’ll try scare you with their religions saying you’re going to hell for believing this and that, but just ignore them. They’re people stuck in their iron age cult and can’t accept that they’re in a cold, careless universe.

>>12737727
Or he disproves the arguments, and then they come back and use the same arguments that have already disproven over and over again.

>>12730399
That is probably (You) quite often.

>>12736483
that 600 billion is in truth a jobs program for youth that would otherwise be a menace to society.
best keep them busy in the military instead

>>12743506
language is how we communicate ideas accurately and effectively you schizotypal sperg

>>12730399
Can you prove them wrong? Oh, you can't...

Do you realize how stupid you are?

>>12730628
>but I can't prove it's round btw

>>12732730
>Earth has curvature
>Laser/telescopes proves otherwise
REEEEEEEEEE IM IN STEM YOURE ALL WRONG

>>12745664
*tips fedora*