/sci/ - Science & Math

[RUMBLING NOISES]

https://twitter.com/jackiewattles/status/1362888684987539457
>Update on SpaceX's Starship program from the FAA just in: "The FAA closed the investigation of the Feb. 2 SpaceX Starship SN9 prototype mishap today, clearing the way for the SN10 test flight pending FAA approval of license updates." (1/4)

>ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS
>EXCEPT URF
>FUCK URF

>>12730536
Probably the gayest patch I've ever seen

>>12730536
Bros!!! Video released in 2 days

>>12730549
>Just an old half-ton shortbed Ford
>My uncle bought new, in '64
>Daddy got it right, 'cause the engine was smoking
>A couple of burnt valves, and he had it going

>>12730549
>that ork-tier riveted sheet metal thermal protection layer
so fucking kino

>>12730601
>that one autist who calculated how long it should take lunar regolith to fall/how quickly it should move
>turns out the dust in the rover videos matches the theoretical movement pretty much perfectly

And yet moon landing conspiracists still exist.

>>12730536
SLS.

>>12730623
What about it? Also why post cgi?

>>12730623
Pathetic

>>12730623
One word: embarrassing

>>12730623
reminder from a decade ago
https://www.nasa.gov/pdf/594163main_2011-SLS_Industry_Day_Final_Public1-1_rev2.pdf

>>12730669
>giving us a 2 for 1 deal of shitty performance and a shit schedule
based and porkpilled

>>12730641
>>12730656
>>12730660
>>12730669
It's still happening. Cope.

>>12730700
Go here >>12727200

>>12730712
I'll post in both threads thankyou

Monero should be the official martian currency.

>>12730732
Based.

>>12730714
Also the SLS is trash, Orion however is looking promising

>>12730536
Reminder that the hab module on Gateway is basically a Cygnus XXL.

>>12730760
Orion is also trash. Expensive oldspace shit with no real purpose.

Hey guys, what's going on over here? And over there, and everywhere else, 15 times per day, in multispectrum 30cm resolution 3D imaging?

>>12730604
One of the rare accurate uses of the word.

>>12730595
Is there a more kino way to land a rover than a giant fucking rocket crane? I genuinely don't think that there is.

>>12730810
>ambient lighting

>>12730669
BLOW THE FUCK UP ON YOUR MAIDEN FLIGHT YOU SHITTY USELESS ROCKET AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

>>12730810
>Pictured: location of Lunar Gateway (Circa 2030)

>>12730604
Some African dude made a car from trash that he starts like a lawnmower. Must be a clever guy to some extent because most people have no clue how to make a car even using prefabricated parts

>>12730835
Starship crane delivery.

>>12730835
read this book. it turns out a sky crane is the most mass efficient way to do it

Why can't information travel faster than light? How exactly is it a physical impossibility?

>>12730885
It is less "information can't go faster than light" and more "light can't go faster than information", which is because to go faster than the speed of information you need infinite energy.

>>12730823
Because back in 2006 NASA wanted Apollo style capsule.

>>12730885
What we perceive as lightspeed is basically the information propagation speed of the universe. To work around that you need to either change the distance or change the rules.

>>12730895
If Lockheed was allowed to proceed with their design, it would look like this.

>>12730895
Reminder that Orion was intentionally over-designed in order to push its mass outside of the lifting capabilities of the then current rockets to justify NASA building a Shuttle-derived launch vehicle

>>12730549
I self-identify as an F-1 engine.

>>12730568
I wasn't going to say anything, but... yeah...

>>12730885
how are you gonna send information through a medium faster than the rate of wave propagation through that medium

>>12730918
Thrust at something big, round, and 70 times your weight for five minutes, become exhausted, and collapse?

>>12730909
And Northrop design was literaly a Shenzhou.

>>12730568
An Challenger appears. Technically, an Atlantis, I guess.

>>12730924
With pogoing, yes.

>>12730923
SUPAHSONIC!!!!!!!!

>>12730925
Arrow of causality may be reversed there.

Never gonna make it with this logo

>>12730885
There’s no evidence it’s impossible to go faster than light

>>12730951
>China crashes a Shenzhou on a South Korean village by mistake
>all the shrapnel is stamped "Plopelty of Nolthlop Glumman"

>>12730959
>eesa

>>12730823
Its crew rated and ready. Sure its outdated but it works and its ready. Fucking send it up

>>12730970
>meesa go to space, master qui gon

>>12730975
Spicy take: I like nearly everything about Jar Jar and the Gungans

>>12730970
More like "Reeeeesa." You know I'm right.

>>12730977
It's literally a minstrel show.

>>12730568
I'm sure the gayness was intentional.

>>12730977
That's fair, they are well designed creatures with a coherent world and engaging narrative.

>>12730977
Jar-Jar was supposed to be a Sith Lord. Lucas pussied out in episodes 2/3.

>>12730959
Would this one be any better?

>>12730995
>Israel is not the center of the globe
Unacceptable.

>>12730995
Yes, that is based except I don't like the detail of Europe on the globe

>>12730823
>shit with no real purpose
it's purpose is to put a woman on the moon, moran

>>12730832
I like this pic

>>12730749
Well, /sfg/?

>>12731001
>How do we remove Europe?
>From... the Earth?

>>12730961
why are the rs ls

>>12731022
Hold still, tovarisch, this will only sting for a moment.

>>12730973
>it's crew rated
hasn't even been launched
>and ready
no it isn't tho
Should fuckin send the cunt anyway tho I agree

>>12730981
then what are these supposed to be?

>>12731007
Like I said, no real purpose

>>12731040
Cost-plus contractors.

>>12731041
I volunteer my ex-wife Rhonda

>>12731020
dead pixels, you can tell since the dots are colored

>>12731020
radiation destroys camera sensors over time. is everyone this retarded?

>>12730885
physicists are pseuds

>>12730973
Crew Dragon is crew rated and ready too tho

>>12730994
Sith Lord Jar Jar would have just been a ripoff of Foundation and Empire

>>12731001
I don't like Europe on the globe either.

>>12731045
Keked

>>12731040
>and nobody else around here has a working Saturn V rocket engine, I grant you that

>>12731046
the catfighter?

>>12731015
Those engines really are absurd. So fucking based.

>>12730991
I thought the hidden underwater civilization relying on biotech idea was novel, and Jar Jar’s antics shouldn’t really be offensive to non-autists

>>12731052
>Sith Lord Jar Jar would have just been a ripoff of Foundation and Empire

Oh, because Coruscant wasn't Trantor already?

friendly reminder that For All Mankind season 2 has started

/sfg/ is now on mars

>>12731087
>red stripes, red stripes for everyone
At least there is only one actual commander.

>>12731037
>hasn't even been launched
That doesn't matter. NASA does so many tests and R&D that their finished product is rated before the first flight.
>no it isn't tho
It is

>>12731087
Have they justified the existence of a Space Shuttle orbiter in Lunar orbit yet?

>>12731087
>>12731092
What is it?

>>12731098
It's an second generation shuttle for the military that's 3x as powerful. It's not clear if they're going to explain any of the technical details or just handwave it.

>>12731109
Alternate history hard scifi+drama. Timeline splits from ours when Soviets beat the US to the moon, then the space race keeps escalating instead of fizzling out.

>>12731128
>Hey bro here’s sea dragon
>Also space shuttle
The historian in me wishes they did Big Gemini instead of the shuttle

>>12731132
Being military focused makes the Shuttle more likely, not less.
>money no object
>actually works as advertised
>snatching shit out of orbit and landing on a runway in one pass is a big dick move

>>12731132
I hear you, but there's no way they could do an 80's spaceflight show and NOT have the shuttle. It's just too iconic.
At least in the alternate timeline of the show the shuttle is actually an improvement over capsules.

>>12731128
>a reusable spaceplane designed for use around lunar orbit still having delta wings and a large cargo bay
I gotta say my autism is tickled

Will this be possible when that ugly Starship is finally completed?

>>12731128
>Shuttle
>the space race continued
Pick one. The shuttle was a direct result of the space race cooling off.

>>12731168
No.

>>12731128
thats fucking retarded, what do they even mean by "3x as powerful"?. obviously they're appealing for normies who only care about rule of cool and don't know shit about space travel.

>>12731168
Yes but noone is goint to make a desert climate in domes so those would be pine trees instead of palms. Also starship is beautiful

>>12731168
Only if there's an L1 magnet shield to keep the cosmic ayys off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4_igusjiUM
milky way is kino. imagine staring at it from the inside of a starship in interplanetary space between the earth and mars

>>12731181
>noone is goint to make a desert climate in domes
It would be thematically appropriate with the bare red rocks outside. More temperate climates are for the giant lava tubes where it's all blatantly artificial.

>>12731178
A series made by Apple that appeals to normies and doesn't care about the actual space travel aspect? Gasp.

>>12731181
>a fucking grain silo

>>12731087
>Apple tv
No

>>12731181
Man I hope SpaceX allows some talented artists to have a go on the stainless steel for maiden flights.
Imagine seeing something like this on the side of Starship Pegasus.

>>>29176703

>>12731197
Wait like an etching / engraving? That would be fucking based - I haven't even considered that

>>12731197
gay

>>12731189
The heat alone would be tough to keep. Also nothing will be appropriate because its barren

fucking great, now cruz is no longer on the space subcommittee

>>12731197
Won't it be covered in thermal tiles?

>>12731223
only one side

When Zurbuchen ripped the paper i stood up and clapped

>>12731206
>The heat alone would be tough to keep.
Regular Earth deserts get cold at night too, just keep it above freezing.

>>12731229
You obviously do not understand plants

>>12731235
I lived in a desert for five years. Arizona gets 80 degree Fahrenheit temperature swings in summer, and night frosts a third of the year. That doesn't kill the cactus or palm trees.

>>12731162
Only the first episode is out so we don't know exactly how it winds up going to the moon. I'm guessing it is not designed for lunar trips but they use it out of desperation or whatever. It's still in the final stages of development as of the first episode.

>>12731171
It's an alternate timeline shuttle where it doesn't suck and they're flying frequently.

>>12731178
>>12731191
The science realism stuff is pretty good as far as tv/movies go, but they still can't go full autism and confuse general audiences. A character says it's "3x as powerful" to another, but does not go into specifics. Some scifi handwaving is allowed since it's an alternate timeline where technology has progressed differently.

>>12731238
Yeah the problem is sustained low temperatures.

>>12731241
>It's an alternate timeline shuttle where it doesn't suck and they're flying frequently
You don't understand. If the spacerace stayed hot the shuttle would never have been made. The saturn V would have remained our major launch vehicle

>>12731246
The chair force would have wanted satellite stealing downmass capability at some point. That means a spaceplane given the limitation of 70s computer tech.

>>12731246
Had the space race continued a shuttle was inevitable, just not one that looks like the one we ended up getting

>>12731246
Space Shuttle is more advanced than Apollo capsule, and sending seven astronauts is better than sending three, especially when cold war turns hot.

>>12731246
In season 1 they do keep the Saturn V around longer, and use a Sea Dragon at least once.
In season 2 they have a significant lunar base in addition to doing shuttle missions in LEO, so presumably they are still using Saturn V's or something similar in addition to the shuttle.

>>12731252
Yeah which would have been entirely different than the shuttle
>>12731255
Agreed but it would have been very different so not the shuttle
>>12731264
The shuttle didn't have the lift capabilities that the saturn 5 had. The apollo capsules wouldn't have been the final product either. But that doesn't matter, the shuttle would not have been made, it would have been an upgraded heavy launch rocket

If the cold war went hot we would have wiped the Soviet Union off the face of the Earth with our arsenal of nukes, then hopefully would have escaped MAD and left for the stars on an Orion fission battleship

>>12731298
>If the cold war went hot
It'd be Fallout without the robots or mutants for all sides.

>>12731298
Can anyone think of a scenario where we go to war in the 80’s with Russia without everyone getting shitted on by nukes? I’m thinking of an idea where Russia has a second civil war therefore we can’t just glass them without killing friendlies

I'm making hash browns
will there be hash browns in space

>>12731284
Yeah my problem is that the shuttle wouldn't exist

>>12731318
>Can anyone think of a scenario where we go to war in the 80’s with Russia without everyone getting shitted on by nukes? I’m thinking of an idea where Russia has a second civil war therefore we can’t just glass them without killing friendlies
That basically happened in the 90s and resulted in us propping up Yeltsin.

>>12731295
Dude, I get it, you love rockets, but no capsule can ever replace the Shuttle. Orion is step back, Starliner is two steps back, and Crew Dragon somehow works because it's already the second generation. Originally Musk just wanted to bolt superdracos to Dragon capsule, and slap some seats in it.

>>12731324
thank you anon. Very cool!

>>12731332
Fuck shuttle bro, just because it looks cool doesn't mean it was cool. Compared to what it was intended to do in the design phase, the shuttle we got was a POS. We might as well have just stuck with an upgraded Saturn that could carry a larger capsule, and a larger payload bay where we stuck the LM. Shuttle was SHIT and wasn't any "better" than the apollo capsule that preceded it

>>12731324
Serious question, how do you fry something in 0g? Can you heat the oil? How does it react? Would you even be able to submerge a piece of chicken or whatever?

>>12731338
>Serious question, how do you fry something in 0g?
Microgravity habs will eat ze bug paste. Glorious fried foods are for gravitychads only.

>>12731336
No.

>>12731298
>>12731318
No.
USA had until the mid/late 50s to do whatever it wanted to the USSR without resistance and it did nothing. After that there was basically no way of resolving it without one side just dissolving. Even that would still be some real thin fucking ice.

>>12731338
Just put food into a container, then fill the container with hot oil, then suck it out

>>12731328
>>12731318
Nuclear war would look a lot different than what people think. The strikes would be more strategic and conventional war would still play a major part. The world wouldn't be destroyed but central Europe and southeast Asia would be pretty destroyed also both the USSR and U S would be crippled from the conflict. I believe the US would win for various reasons but at a very large cost.

>>12731338
Spin-fry.

>soulless
>soul

>>12731355
We'll have to wait for the first operational starship to really compare.

>>12731332
>Dude, I get it, you love rockets, but no capsule can ever replace the Shuttle
Actually the space shuttle is my favorite spacecraft ever. I just hate what it represents and i hate even more when alternate history misleads people's knowledge of real history.
>Orion is step back, Starliner is two steps back
I agree
>Crew Dragon somehow works because it's already the second generation. Originally Musk just wanted to bolt superdracos to Dragon capsule, and slap some seats in it.
The only reason he didn't was because of how long the crew rating would take. But I actually support the dragon.

Why are they removing the stairs from the highbay? Why not just leave them there?

>>12731387
If you can't vertical-leap your way up there then Elon doesn't want you getting there.

>>12731345
Literally terrible

>>12731284
I doubt they would go full nerd, and make Apollo Block V or something, but Shuttle Block II or HL-20 would be nice to see.

>>12731355
Dude the starship is gou to look so much more like the shuttle than you understand. The bottom will have black thermal tiles and it will have a cockpit. The difference is that the inside will be like what people imagined the shuttle to look like inside

>>12731338
Air fry.

>>12730034
To add to that Roman(s) figured out how to make aluminum too, apparently.

>Supposedly, aluminum’s discovery dates back to the ancient Roman Empire. One Roman history tells of an unusual goldsmith who gave the Roman emperor Tiberius a plate crafted from a silvery and lightweight new metal made from “clay.” When Tiberius saw what was most likely an aluminum plate, he ordered the execution of the goldsmith. Tiberius feared the goldsmith’s new metal might reduce the value of Rome’s vast stores of gold and silver. Tiberius’s beheading of the unfortunate goldsmith kept aluminum in the ground for the next two millennia.
https://knowledgenuts.com/2014/02/27/the-metal-that-was-once-worth-more-than-gold/

>>12731412
I just hope it has a less eye-scalding interior layout. Gimme some retro off-white or wood tones, anything but this obnoxious Iphone shit.

>>12731336
>Compared to what it was intended to do in the design phase, the shuttle we got was a POS.
The sole purpose of the Shuttle was to bring the cost of spaceflight down. It didn't achieve this. How anyone can think the Shuttle program was of any benefit is beyond me

>>12731433
It increased the cost of spaceflight and reduced america's spaceflight capacities actually.

When will we get space criminals? I want to be a pirate

>>12731439
https://youtu.be/VyVuuXUR7Lc

>>12731439
When there is a large in space economy and decently sized colonies on the moon and mars, so 20-30 years from now.

>>12731439
Work in oldspace and defraud the government. Space grift achieved.

>>12730872
If Americans were allowed to drive cars they built without getting hassled by the state, you better believe most people would drop a grand making a go-kart rather than spending thousands on a used car.

>>12730885
Information = causality

Light cannot exceed the speed of causality. Light is not the arbiter of speed, just that it travels at the max speed it can.

>>12731425
I think there will be a few different interiors based on the missions. Also anything retro is cancer and I hope they don't go that route

>>12731407
Well, /sfg/?

>>12731489
>sambles!

>>12731489
>Literal well-dweller too stupid to understand a curved piece of glass

what if they dug a big hole into the center of Mars and detonated thousands of hydrogen bombs to kickstart the Magnetosphere

>>12731520
You can't just blow a hole into the surface of mars!

>>12731523
Who's going to stop him?

>>12731520
>what if they dug a big hole into the center of Mars and detonated thousands of hydrogen bombs
That would shift Mars's orbit.

>>12731529
Cool, it's too far away as it is let's move it a little closer to the sun.

>>12731529
When will this meme end

New image from Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter

>>12731473
Going to Walmart in the Ork Trukk with the boys

>>12731534
this cant be real

>>12731534
Oh shit, make sure >>12731407 gets to see it.

This Starship barrel section is being prepared with Thermal Protection System Tile backing materials

>>12731475
There’s no evidence causality has a limited speed

>>12731545
Uhhh wait what, what exactly am I looking at here

>>12731546

>>12731546
Bruh

>>12731533
>thousands of hydrogen bombs in a big hole
>channeling all that energy in the same direction
>like the mother of all Orion drives
It would change the orbit at least a meter.

>>12731546
Sh-shut up! My math rhetoric is hard science!

>>12731489
we went over this in the previous threads faggot, pay attention

>>12731555
You vastly underestimate how massive a planet is.

>>12731549
A Starship section with protective blankets, which will be covered in heat shield tiles.

>>12731568
Oh, huh. Is the blanket idea new, or was that always the plan? I always assumed they would just bolt on some tiles and that would be that.

>>12731087
>With the Soviet Union emphasizing diversity by including a woman in subsequent landings, the US is forced to match pace, training women and minorities who were largely excluded from the initial decades of US space exploration.

Ah yes, that will crush the soviets. If we can teach women and black people to operate space craft, our powers are boundless.

>>12731569
Probably part of the plan once the transpiration idea was shelved. The tiles have gaps, so having a thermal blanket between the tiles and the hull ensures any plasma that leaks through the gaps wont directly impinge on the hull. Yes, steel is much stronger than aluminum or carbon fiber when it comes to dealing with entry plasma, but it doesnt hurt to have another layer of protection especially if its lightweight.

>>12731412
Yeah nah, it wont have a footooristic interior, it will be ultra-utilitarian like the ISS.

>>12731583
> it will be ultra-utilitarian like the ISS.
no it won't, only for the early missions. the mass colonization crew starship will be more comfy

how can one be so stupid

>>12731583
Isn't it basically confirmed that elon is pulling tesla automotive interior designers for it?

Thunderf00t destroyed by smart spacex fan
https://youtu.be/36o4UrS9OS4

>>12731581
Kind of a dumb question incoming, but could Starship survive reentry if we covered it in thermal blankets and didn't go with any of the ceramic heat shield hexagons?

>>12731562
Instead of arguing, do the math.

A thousand hydrogen bombs is at minimum a gigaton of TNT equivalent. Assuming about 2 meganewtons per 10kt charge for Project Orion numbers that gives us 2,000,000 * (1,000,000,000 / 10,000) = 2x10^11 Newtons of thrust.

That changes orbital velocity by about 3x10^-13m/s, so Mars's orbit would shift by about a picometer.

>>12731545
better pic

>>12731595
Yeah. They did all the shit for Dragon's interior. I'm convinced Elon has been sitting on some sweet renders for over a year now; he's probably waiting for the first successful landing though so he can hold another press conference and release the images

>>12731568
>A Starship section with protective blankets
Damn, that's comfy.

>>12731604
>picometer

boku no

>>12731600
The whole point of Starship tiles is to be cheaper and more robust than Shuttle TPS.

>>12731598
will thunderf00t even reply?

>>12730885
It's not really about light, it's about the properties of our universe. Speed of light is a constant that sits there along with the fine-structure constant, gravitational constant, and others. Transcending that speed is impossible without "cheating" (wormholes, Alcubierre drive, etc.).

>>12731613
Yeah but it was the black astronaut ice cream, custom-shaped tiles that were expensive I thought. The white blankets on the Shuttle were probably not TOO expensive, and could be made dirt cheap by SpaceX

>>12731600
Survive? A very strong maybe. Make it to the ground intact enough and structurally sound enough to land? No.

>>12731594
Says the anon that doesn’t use Tomorrow

>>12730885
A helpful way to think of it is that C is basically 1 planck length (the smallest hypothetical unit of distance) over 1 planck time (the smallest hypothetical unit of time). Basically, C is just "1" and everything going slower than C is going less than 1. It's physically impossible to go faster than 1 full unit at 1 full speed, if that makes sense.

>>12731594
Reading that made me think of this thing, kek.

>>12731630
>C is basically 1 planck length (the smallest hypothetical unit of distance) over 1 planck time (the smallest hypothetical unit of time). Basically, C is just "1" and everything going slower than C is going less than 1.
Holy shit.

>>12731594
This is what conservatives sound like irl

>>12731639
You're right, both modern day "conservatives" and "liberals" are usually pretty stupid.

>>12731639
>conservatives
*insurrectionist domestic terrorists

>>12731639
i call them trumpy trumpkins

OH NO OH NO

>>12731639
t. Jew

>>12731659
I'm pretty sure that anon is just trolling.

>>12731659
Now this is schizo posting

>>12731659
all those words and none of them explain how the antarctic midnight sun is possible oh muh flat plane

>>12731598
it's like i'm really back in 2007

>>12731523
>You can't just blow a hole into the surface of mars!
One does not simply nuke a hole into Mars!
>>12731353
toob or ring fry?

can somebody dump all the stuff about SLS sacrificing reliability and shit for speed and it maintaining jobs

>>12731489
Kek

>>12731095
>NASA does so many tests and R&D that their finished product is rated before the first flight.
Just like SLS and Starliner
>inb4 starliner is boing: orion is lockmart

>>12731735
>Just like SLS and Starliner
and Challenger

>>12731555
Planets are much more massive than that, and also if you're detonating nukes inside a planet the energy isn't leaving anywhere, the point is that it gets absorbed as heat into the core.
Also to even make a noticeable difference in core convection whatsoever you'd need billions of nukes at least.

>>12731698
kek the golden age of youtube atheism

>>12731622
The blankets aren't heat resistant enough. They'd just melt. Also they would likely not hold up well to the dynamic pressure.

>>12731755
nasa and their god damned lies

https://www.nasa.gov/missions/shuttle/f_blankets.html

Am I experiencing a memory hole? I remember some SRB rocket going to the ISS at some point. Maybe it was a Minotaur? Anyone know what I'm talking about

>>12731811
Antares has a solid second stage.

>>12731816
That's probably what it is then. Also what the fuck, it goes liquid, then solid?

>>12731811
>Minotaur
The most based rocket. Those things fucking FLY off the pad and usually go into powerslides right away.

>>12731799
nice

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KHt8zyNxH8&t=2169s
Good video on perseverance, actually talking about the science

>>12731820
Yep, Ukrainian kerolox first stage, American solid second stage. I think part of the reason it launches from Virginia is to prove American solids can hit high inclination orbital targets (or, say, Moscow and Beijing) reliably. It's a very political rocket design.

>>12731583
There won't be an interior for a few years because it has to be a cargo drone to prove its reliability.

Reminder that flat earth is a CIA psyop designed to make actual conspiracy theories like the holocaust being at least heavily exaggerated in the favor of the jewish elite and 9/11 being an inside job look stupid.
>>12731811
You're probably thinking of the Ares I. It was cancelled, but basically it was an upper stage that would eventually go on the Delta IV riding aboard an extended shuttle SRB.

>>12731829
wow, very pretty woman on the right. and she's a doctor? not often you see a woman who is beautiful AND intelligent.

Probably more of a /k/ question, but what does sfg think of the exoatmospheric kill vehicles used for GMD?

Watching the test footage that’s available of them is trippy

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LC97wdQOmfI

>>12731893
Okay, what the fuck did I just watch?

>>12731902
>Okay, what the fuck did I just watch?
A terminal phase interceptor designed to smash into warheads.

mi princesa...

>>12731902
>>12731907
That video clip is from the 1990s. I can’t wait to see how the concept continues to evolve with time

>FTG-11 test on March 25, 2019
>This test used two interceptors,one to crash into a dummy target representing an incoming ICBM and another to use sensors to detect another ICBM or other countermeasures.
>test was a success and 20 additional gmd interceptors are now slated to be deployed

>>12731926
It actually kind of scares me a bit because if these things become common enough and are successful enough to make a nuclear exchange impossible than world wars and violent conflicts will be back on the menu.

>>12731937
Don't worry, hypersonic missiles can't be stopped by those or pretty much anything.

>>12731937
The odds will always be in favour of the incoming mirvs if there’s enough of them. This is aimed more at deterring a threat on the level of the one presented by Iran or North Korea.

>>12731948
what about frickin laserbeams?

>>12731948
I’d guess a brute force approach to hypersonic vehicles would work.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nike_Zeus

> Nike Zeus was an anti-ballistic missile (ABM) system developed by the US Army during the late 1950s and early 1960s that was designed to destroy incoming Soviet intercontinental ballistic missile warheads before they could hit their targets.
>designed to intercept warheads in the upper atmosphere, mounting a 25 kiloton W31 nuclear warhead.

>>12731964
/sfg/ is not ready for Sprint missiles

>>12731966
So fucking cool

>>12731964
I'm not certain hypersonic missiles even go to the upper atmosphere.

>>12731958
What's the actual range on those things? Lasers are kinda a meme in atmosphere. Is there any way we could remove the atmosphere?

>>12731980
The X-15 was a big hypersonic missile with a cockpit, and that crossed the Karman Line before.

Imagine if you were on board the Challenger and you were informed of the problem 1 second after liftoff, knowing full well that you were going to die and there was absolutely nothing you could do to stop it.

>>12731994
Google's telling me they can be used at pretty much any altitude.

>>12731891
Right?
>>12731829
good watch thanks

>>12731924
absolutely gorgeous. how did anon's date go?

>>12732001
NASA's probably got the death rattles of every single dead astronaut archived somewhere.

>>12732001
Unironically would start flipping through the manual as fast as possible trying to find the overwrite sequence to stage the shuttle off of the orangetank and SRB's. I would take my chances and try to separate and glide her back in

https://twitter.com/jackiewattles/status/1362888684987539457?s=19
FAA SN9 investigation closed. Scoop from this attractive reporter, Jackie Wattles at CNN.

>>12732031
>within the safety bounds
Ugh who gives a fuck just kick everyone off the island and establish a "if you come too close this WILL kill you" rule

>>12732037
violators will be BRRAAAPPED

>>12732039

>>12732039

>>12732050
But what about the treasure

>>12730997
venice, otoh ...

>>12732050
>>12732054
kek

Finished serving my ban, what's the news with SN10?

kek Elon has put a cute bitcoin waifu on his twitter
our weeb memelord shows his real power level!

btw how tf does this fake anonymous account already have a rover video of Mars?
Is this curiosity?
https://twitter.com/YourAnonOne/status/1362790899361677312

>>12732066
He doesn't want people knowing about Monero.

>>12732076
what do you think retard

>>12732076
It's not video, and yes it's from two years ago

>>12731659
where do you find these magical people? i want to go play with them.

>>12732086
>It's not video
yes it's a video, dumbass
old one probably from curiosity or the desert
>>12732085
stfu

>>12732095
Ok, I guess you know better than the guy at NASA who was literally in charge of taking those photos

btw isn't it enraging that there is a literal fake anonymous account on twitter with half million normie followers?
can't someone take it down somehow?

>>12732025
>staging with lit srbs
death

>>12732101
This sarcasm is very woman like

>>12732101
are you retarded? the video of this year has not arrived yet, it takes 2-3 days
also that rover is not perseverance

>>12732104
>O-ring failure
death as well. Might as well attempt to flee

>>12732076
it's a panorama with fake sounds added and scrolling to make it look like a video. it's from a still image. curiosity had no microphones

>>12732108
i wonder if it was even possible. would the vehicle even allow separation while orange tank still had fuel.

>>12732107
Learn to read dumbfuck. Those photos were taken years ago by curiosity as I said

>>12732114
yes you absolute autist, the whole point of the discussion are the 12 millions normies thinking that this is new footage from Perseverance
now kys and shut up

>>12732114
also of course I meant that it was a video on twitter

>>12732120
just report it for being misleading, you can cancel people easily on twitter

>>12732120
That is footage from Perseverance though

>>12732031
>we investigated the test crash that was livestreamed to everyone and concluded that it was a test crash
Gods I hate the government

>>12732124
>just report it for being misleading
I did it
>>12732126
no it isn't, at a certain point you can literally see "curiosity" written on the rover

>>12730536
Quick post comfy SFG pictures

1/3

>>12732129
>at a certain point you can literally see "curiosity" written on the rover
Burden of proof is on you. This footage was just taken from Perseverance. You know, the rover that just landed on Mars? Get your facts straight before posting so you don't look like an idiot

>>12732131
Also will SpaceX develop a Mars-only starship? One designed just to haul big cargo across Mars and land?

>>12732060
now do a GME version

>>12732105
thank you

>>12732135
just watch the twitter video (that is actually footage of a 360° pic so that the other autist is happy) I posted at minute 0:25 stupid retard
can you read?

>trolling outside of /b/

>>12732144
I'm unsure if he's trolling or actually retarded

>>12731087
>Kino

>>12731194
>He actually pays?

>>12731574
diversity is what killed the soviet union

>>12732050
No matter how reasonable or accurate that sign is, there will always be some retard that sees it as a quest hook.

>>12732166
yes amongst the other things like lack of private property

>>12732136
With Martian gravity it'd probably be easier to build trebuchets.

>>12731659

>Mars need not be greater than several kilometres in diameter

>>12730959
I like it

does elon post on /sfg/?

>>12732234
he got banned for posting furries

>>12730549
Why cant we make a modern one of these

>>12732251
NASA wanted one, and said it was the better option for SLS, but Congress demanded they use Shuttle hardware instead.
https://youtu.be/ZNZx208bw0g

>>12732050
always a great source of memes

>>12731621
There's a possibility the speed of light is variable.

>>12732295
there's a possility isaac arthur eats shit

>>12732300
I'd say that's more than likely.

Celebrating the landing is disappointing. They did the same thing 8 years ago, and this time it even costed more. Where is exponential progress? We need mass produced rovers which cost 2 magnitudes less.
In 8 years we went from suborbit to landing on moon.
Now in 8 years, we did the exact same landing, for more cost. Stagnation should not be celebrated.
NASA has no motivation to progress exponentially if the public keeps praising them for doing the same thing.

>inb4 this has different instruments
I'm talking about launch rates, not the science

>>12732300
Rent free

>>12731659
Lockdown was a mistake

>>12731598
upvote that video into space

>>12730611
Conspiracies are like religious or anti-religious beliefs. One can not be persuaded out of them, not by any quantity of evidence. Only those who acknowledge at the begining that their faithful assumptions MIGHT be incorrect have any hope of casting away falsehood in favor of adopting a more perfect truth.
Besides, fanatically conspiratorial beliefs are more fun than the boring and incomprehensible reality.

>>12732508
flat earthers went full schizo. you can't have a discussion whith someone who is mentally ill

>>12732515
Correct
>>12732339
Stagnation is a problem but I would guess that the real reason the landing falls flat with you has less to do with that and more to do with how quickly humans adjust to the amazing.
> Big deal! Seen it! Mt Dew commercials.

Is there any public site where you can find technical data for rovers and probes?
I do not mean the "fact sheets" they give for the general public, but something more detailed (specifications of each instrument...).
I suppose a good part of it is secret or reserved to partners, but still...

>>12732515
this... we should mass sterilize all schizos before they reproduce

so many gorgeous women at jpl. the golden age

>>12732339
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ-04R_Zw6M

>>12731836
I'm pretty sure they will work on the interior before that so they can launch immediately one when they can.

>>12732556
Can I come?

>>12732001
You're already in that situation. You just have to wait a lot longer.

>>12730601
I love the way the dust gets flung so high and then just sort of fluffs to the ground and doesn't billow at all. It's so alien amd weird when you look close.
Pretty sure Armstrong commented on this because it was so unintuitive.

>>12732173
>USSR didn't have property
I hate commies as much as the next guy but they absolutely had private property in the USSR. Along with money and all the other features of a modern State. Communism =/= no private property, it's ideally the ownership of the means of production (meaning factories and farms, etc) by the people who work them, and those cooperatives working together. But everything else not covered by those two areas can absolutely be private property in a Communist system. The whole No Private Property thing is an-com pipe dream that literally no one but the most extreme leftists take seriously.

The USSR failed more from lack of resources and maintaining a global competition with half the civilized world that was far beyond their actual reach because of Communisms retarded eternal revolution workers of the world unite bullshit.

Why is granpa's radiocassette on a Martian rover?

49 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDTkp2PpH-w&feature=emb_title

>>12733150
>R*ssian engine rocket shit
This entire launch vehicle must be purged.

>>12733144
So Percy can jam out to some dadrock up there obviously.

I've heard numerous claims that there's a recording of Komarov cursing the engineers and the Politburo as his craft is failing, but after much searching I've only been able to find this as his last speech.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b3l5pl7aoQ
Did his freakout get Mandela'd or was it a hoax all along?

>>12733170
f

>>12733170
F9

>>12733178
I had it open in Gimp to make a minions version of it. But then I didn't. I deleted it and closed the program down. Because it would have been tasteless.

F

>>12733170
>>12733175
>>12733178
>Komarov chose to fly to protect Gagarin, and insisted before the flight that his funeral be open-casket so that the Soviet leadership could see what they had done.
Hard core

>>12731966
What was the even more extreme version of the Sprint?

>>12733229
400m dash

>>12733170
Can anyone show me the orientation of the corpse?
I can't fucking recognize a single human feature in there

>>12731574
I could almost see putting a woman into space back then.
But the real reason would be
>Our rockets and spacecraft are so advanced and far ahead of everything else that they can complete their mission even while being operated by women!

Less than one hour to Cygnus launch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieXz3wbunc0

>>12733246

We live bros. Didn't the last Antares blow up on launch?

>>12733288
>1st stage: kerolox
>2nd stage: solid
WTF? What happened with "solids first"? Don't they need to throttle the second stage
?

>>12733342
Kick stages are traditionally solid rockets

>>12733337
No. That was a few years ago and they have launched successfully multiple times since then.

https://youtu.be/UDTkp2PpH-w

>>12733310
W-Whats this bit then?

>>12733337
i like the stream, it somehow gives me the warm fuzzys because everything is so crusty. The nasa orchestral opening, the crusty, washed out cams, the dusty mic... the Grumman low poly nosecone coming down to unchamfered 1diameter... just oldschool.

>>12733350
Maybe his femur was rammed through his pelvis

>>12733350
conk

>>12733350
>>12733357
other legg, he probably died in a sitting or enrolled position

Tory seems like a cool guy

>>12733356
Wallops.. Home..

>>12733362
i-is that milled? Gee that 3angle structure looks expensive.

>>12733362
What's with the (((ring)))?

>3,265 kN
That Antares system packs a Wallop!

>>12733367
Yes, they are stupendously expensive and time consoooming.

>>12733367
It’s the old space way. Spend 500% more for something 1% better.

Map of flight path?

It is purple my dudes!

>>12733379
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHH

>>12733386
up

>>12733390
then like tipped to the side and stuff.
Can't miss it man...

>>12733386
Don't let the NASA stream fool you. This is an ICBM aimed at Boca Chica. Nothin personnel, Elon

>>12733407
ICBM!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StYJjMYU2D0

>>12733389
At this point now there are processes which could give you isogrids, and potentially isogrids substantially stronger than conventionally milled solid metal, but NASA sure as hell won't be the ones to pioneer making them practical. 3D metal PROOONTERS have already been able to surpass the brittleness issue since 2017 with sufficiently tight control parameters and even yield a piece of work mechanically superior to a homogeneous block.
Hypersonic deposition PROOONTERS can also create work of the same consistency and mechanical properties as homogeneous metals and do so much faster than laser deposition machines, but neither of these technologies has been embraced at the large scale yet.

>>12733417
It's so fucking fast, just like 15 sec to mach1

Why the fuck are they reciting propaganda DURING the countdown

>>12733423
Yeah lmao that’s what I was talking about here >>12731822
The rocket immediately starts turning, it’s insane. Crazy to think something that small can even put payloads in orbit

>>12733430
Just woke up. What are they saying?

>>12733449
They were talking about breaking through the barriers of gender and race

>>12733422
Looks like mesh armor. Rad. Shame the tech is limited to the smaller scale, like you said. Is scaling it feasible or do certain aspects become exponentially more difficult?

>>12733438
solid in all stages and just an unstoppable hatriot towards communism man.

>>12733451
Oh cool! I hope the rocket explodes today then lmao

>>12733456
I hope your face explodes today then lmao

>>12733452
Well I know some rocketry team is planning to PROOOONT their whole rocket, and instead of a limited printing deck they're using three very precise industrial arms with PROOONT heads on their tips which are aware of one-another's positions and the position of the work and can move around it as necessary, but that's a purely experimental machine, the only one of it's kind to my knowledge.
Obviously though, because it exists already, it can be done and can be greatly optimized, there just isn't institutional pressure yet for it to be done.

>>12733451
NASA pays and NASA demands subversion.

>Check 420
t-2 bois

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt9W_tf32dQ

If Cygnus had a soundtrack, this would be it.

>>12733367
They mill flat plates and bend them on a press.
Still retard expensive

What's going on?

>>12733490
roket go upp

>>12733490
antares/cygnus launch

>solid upper stage
Absolute madlad design

It is so crusty <3 <3 <3 <3

This thing reaches orbit fast as fuck

>>12733483
>video unavailable

>>12733518
wait now I visited it with my own youtube search and it works now

>>12733518
Guess it's opposite day, because videos are usually only unavailable in Europe.
It's Deep Purple's Space Truckin'.

>>12733518
Think Tin Lizzy or ZZtop, grimy 80s rock
Cmmon
Cmmon
Cmmon
Space truckin....

>Diversity speech
>They show mission control in Virginia; it's all old white dudes
lmao

>>12733528
WTF I love NASA now

It was cool to see that second stage go horizontal after staging. I assume they do that to increase its drag as much as possible, so it can reenter faster

stream down here, sitrep?

>>12733545
https://youtu.be/UDTkp2PpH-w

Separation nominal

disregard >>12733545

>>12733504
>Circularising at 180 Km
>Pe is still negative (-9000 km)
>Solid cant be turned off or throttled down
>10 seconds later
>Pe is now Ap at 300+ Km
WTF? Can anyone explain? Better be that 300km Ap exactly the altitude of the ISS. Even then, this ship will need at least one more big burn to reach the ISS from this elliptical orbit. How is it going to do that without second stage? Does it has engines left?

>>12733528
The whole modern diversity movement is skin deep. The establishment pays lip service to "diversity and inclusion" to keep the plebs happy but in reality the establishment, the bureaucrats and managers and engineers, all the people who actually make society run, is like 90% middle age and older white guys with the occasional pajeet or chink, possibly a femoid or two in HR.

Never forget that White Males are literally the only group in the US that are a net contribution to taxes. Literally everyone else is a drain.

>>12733549
thank you!

>>12733549
It has another liquid stage

>>12733549
that is kind of a problem with solid upper stages. They trim that kind of thing with last minute attitude adjustments (which is why it was pointed slightly down at the end). This wouldn't be enough control if they were putting up passive satellites, but Cygnus has its own thrusters for making the rendezvous maneuvers.

>>12733557
I was thinking about that. The dude giving the callout said "second stage burnout in AROUND 15 seconds". Like they can't exactly control when that stage stops firing - so I assume they have to make up for it later on

>>12733551

>Never forget that White Males are literally the only group in the US that are a net contribution to taxes. Literally everyone else is a drain.

That will be fun in the future with the changing demographics of America.

>>12733562
Yep. We are literally being turned into a South/Central American country right now in the name of profit.

The wealthy and rich don't give a shit. They will continue to ride the corpse of America until it's utterly exhausted and then move somewhere else to continue being leeches.

Like I have no issue with profit motive and Capitalism because they can get shit done (SpaceX for example), but at the same time it incentivizes self destruction in the name of profits basically.

Which Starship did Elon say would have significant design changes? Was it SN15?

>>12733572
Yaaaa

>>12733551
Hey, Asians contribute a little bit.
>>12733572
Yes.

>>12733568
What capitalism?
US has been a hyper-socialized command economy/"mixed" market economy for almost a hundred years.

>>12733575
>>12733576
Does SN15 look any different yet? It's pretty far along.

>>12733584
I think it’s a bit more shinier

>>12733584
more tentacles.

>>12733568
>Yep. We are literally being turned into a South/Central American country right now in the name of profit.
Well consider you lucky. Here in Europe the elites are importing literal shiploads of Pakis and subsaharian blacks. They are not exactly doctors and engineers. And boy do they cause trouble.
Bad news is we aren't allowed to have guns (again, consider you lucky).

>>12733250
>Following the tradition set by Gagarin, Tereshkova also urinated on the bus tire, becoming the first woman to do so.
>With a single flight, she logged more flight time than the combined times of all American astronauts who had flown before that date.
Soviets dabbing on the Americans

>>12733603
With the exception of landing on moon, the Soviets clearly had a better space program.
In retrospect the Shuttle was criminal

Fuck white women. Someone make the new thread already.

>>12733629
No fucking kill yourself premature thread faggot, fucking die immediately.

>>12733634
Lmao look at how distressed you got. Very reactionary, like a white woman

>>12733641
Just wait until page ten you impatient brainless retard chimp.

>>12733466
>NASA demands subversion
In a few years they will finally discover git.