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How high are the chances of complete recovery from schizophrenia?

>> No.12729627

None

>> No.12729626

>>12729621
0%

>> No.12729764

>>12729621
You don't recover - but you can learn methods to cope, to understand, and to help yourself exist in society

>> No.12729767

>>12729621
None, just use the rope fagget

>> No.12729773

>>12729621
What does disorganized speech and/or reduced speech sound like?

>> No.12729809

>>12729773
Just go to /b/

>> No.12729874

>>12729773
You know how people dont make any logical sense? Exactly like that. The written form is word salads, you can see those dime a dozen in >>>/x/

>> No.12730008

>>12729809
>>12729874
gotcha

>> No.12730092

Can someone explain to me what the difference between schizoid personality and autism is? Anywhere I looked, I found some vague shit like "autists are more autistic about interests."

>> No.12730257

>>12730092
>schizoid personality and autism is?
Autism has become a spectrum which only served to muddle the definition beyond any working one. Its a hollow term thrown at anyone that might feel anxious at the moment of their examination (So called 'high functioning autism').
Really the overlap can be so great that there isnt a point in it anymore.

>> No.12730435

>>12729773

i dont talk much because im always listening and often because i dont know how to correctly respond to things that have been negatively interpreted.

im not looking to fight.

it may seem like an exaggeration but most conversations do usually have certain directions they are being pushed in..

but if a natural dynamic is not established then it is by definition, abnormal.

but, if you were to listen.. then the understanding you have on language and communication would change also.

i think its an iq thing, but if you cant implement, recall or act upon knowledge.

then for all intents and purposes.

disorganised speech stems from an awareness of surroundings.

im a completely different person at home and with family but if im watched by a third person or in a public place where people are walking past or nearby.

then the answers i give are often short to the point of being a few words and even then they often feel forced.. maybe with pauses between words where there shouldnt be any.

iv seen it worse in other people but i suppose its a very circular and self reinforced way of thinking.

the watchers dont like being watched.

>>12729621

maybe in the future but i suppose it may be a case of re-education/rehabilitation alongside pharmacological management.

>>12729764

agreed, its just cope for now.


but honestly for me i lost it when i completely destroyed the career i was working towards, one exam away from being a practising mpharm..

at one point i was sweeping floors in a pharmacy and the pharmacist would have laughed if you told them i was almost a pharmacist.

the world is a hard place to fix once you've broken it.

>> No.12730458

>>12730435
jesus, that spacing. Please kys.

>> No.12730459 [DELETED] 

>>12730435
Thanks for sharing, anon. What went with the exam?

>> No.12730463

>>12730435
Thanks for sharing, anon. What went wrong with the exam?

>> No.12730472
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12730472

>>12729621
When u nut in her and then she say she ain’t really on birth control

>> No.12730473

the best prognosis a genuine schizophrenic can hope for is finding the right combination of meds that manages their symptoms reasonably well. many however are doomed to an endless cycle of psychotic episodes, hospital visits, and medication tweaks.

>> No.12730489

I wonder sometimes if i just have bad anxiety along with very poor social skills, mediocre intellegence, and neuroticism, or if i have a schitzo disorder.

Ultimately i dont seek treatment or tell practitioners (the whole story) about these kinds of struggles because i am both embarrased/ashamed, and i just want to make it work. Even if every day sucks sometimes. I always pull through, so what is the point of taking some medication that could have serious quality of life side effects.

Also other things, like how practitioners are so desperate for a success rate they will prescribe you top medications and hope for a good reaction

>> No.12730500

>>12730463

well i actually passed all the hard exams, i flunked on psychoneuropharmacology...

the irony does not escape me.

so they made me retake it and by this point i was well off the track, i had abandoned the model essay answers we had all used to great effect and actually wanted to present something else.

there was a question on parkinsons and i ended up with my head in a journal that may have questioned the long term prognosis of pharmacological management with current treatments. to the point where pharmacological management actually lead to unfavourable longterm outcomes.

bear in mind this was nearly 15 years ago now so im not even sure of myself anymore.

anyway that was the wrong answer and i flunked.

what destroyed me the most was when i was called in by the lecturer and i started asking me about research he was doing and that i really didnt have a clue about.

..that was the last time i saw him and the irony of that moment didnt escape me also.

fked up.

took me a long time to get back on my feet, its the darkest part of me i suppose although i am truly blessed and grateful for my life.

>> No.12730515

>>12729621
no chance

>> No.12730521

>>12729621
we just had this in pharm school. if u werent treated with meds for ur first one the chances u will relape are 55-70%

>> No.12730837

>>12729621
God fucking damn it, I have all except hallucinations. I've also been experiencing dp/dr since a month or so ago. What the fuck is wrong with me, /sci/?

>> No.12732502

>>12729621
where I live, there was a hospital for schizophrenics that closed 20 years ago. This means that everyone has been healed.

>> No.12732641

>>12730435
I relate to the first part of your post anon, I have the same 'problem'.

>> No.12732650

https://youtu.be/0F_kLbtnWWM?t=644

>> No.12732679

>>12729773
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RudMmsOoHc
Like this.

>> No.12732689

>>12729621
There is no such a thing as "schizophrenia".

>> No.12732696

>>12729773
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uXwRgnZ990I&feature=emb_title

>> No.12732697 [DELETED] 

>>12730092
None. It's basically an aduld diagnosis for autism.

>> No.12732703

>>12730092
None. It's basically an adult diagnosis for autism.

>> No.12732708

>>12730472
Kill yourself

>> No.12732717

>>12732689
Explain

>> No.12732729

>>12732717
A major fraction of the western population has what was originally described as "schizophrenia" or "dementia praecox", as it's a condition caused by excess iron, which gets to the brain and acts as a heavy metal, damages the striatum, and disrupts neurotransmitters and their receptors. This makes the diagnosis essentially meaningless. Some people are diagnosed on the psychiatrist's whims, those who don't have it are actually often labelled "autistic".

>> No.12732761

up to 70% if you don't use antipsychotic meds
with meds it's closer to 20

for me my psychosis stopped after MDMA

>> No.12732852

>>12732761
>for me my psychosis stopped after MDMA

Permanently?

>> No.12733018
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12733018

>>12729621
>schizophrenia
Not real, not real, not real, not real, not real!
It's not real, despite what (((psychologist))) would have you believe.
It's how (((they))) characterize people who speak the truth. Sure, some people really are just crazy, but it's basically the greatest tool they can use to discredit people.
There is some real shit that normies are missing out on, just because they don't want to be seen as crazy. If I told people about the (((Epstein))) conspiracy in 2008 no one would have cared and everyone would have thought I was crazy! Now there's a (((heavily censored))) popular Netflix documentary about it. I mean think about it, the truths of the case are out there now, because of the internet, but somehow people still only know the basic 1% of the known facts fucking bullshit, like "Epstein didn't kill himself".
I mean, just Compare
>Epstein didn't kill himself
to
>Epstein worked for Mossad
They are both basic facts everyone should know but which will get you (((canceled))) and which does every half-wit 16 year-old Redditor glibly spam all over the internet?
Everyone thinks the Proticals were a forgery but even if they are they're true! We all know who controls Hollywood, Government, Banks, Law, News, ... everything! but we wont say it, why? because we don't want to seem crazy! I mean isn't that just insane inofitself? They are litterally trying to kill us. We need to stop these sick fcks, fuck them! fuk the fuck them fuck them,,
Jesuits, the Illuminati, Free Masons, Templar, Rothschilds, etc., etc. it's all true! Fools laugh, the wise Know. Go ahead faggots, try to prove me wrong. You can't. I'm wise, you're the fool.
Imagine actually thinking that ability to reason and connect the dots is insanity! This is the world we live in! Learn the truth. fuck everyone who says your insane Or S[nding to much time by yourself, when tghey time comes theyt ill come crawling I syggest ytou put a bullet in their stiupid fuvking skull.

>> No.12733266

1/3 of cases = terminal
1/3 of cases = managed with antipsychotics
1/3 of cases = complete recovery

>> No.12733319

>>12729621
cope or rope, nigger

>> No.12733439

Yesterday anon here, dropping some schiz pov.

Over time I actually managed to struggle reading in my head.

So reading posts is often filled with intrusive thoughts and often misreading words, although it feels very forced.

The strange thing is that if I read out aloud then I feel exactly as before any schiz.. Perfect reading not one mis step.

Typing speed and accuracy is on point.

>> No.12733445

>>12733439

It often feels like the misread words are actually forming in my mouth rather than my mind.

Very strange feeling.

>> No.12733488

>>12729621
About 50%

>> No.12733658

>>12730092
Schizoid is to be devoid of the natural desire to socialize, Autism is for your mind to be an echo chamber.

>> No.12733777

>>12732708
Nigga u jus mad u aint think of it firs